Phone Call

| Bass | · Mon 21/02/2005 04:34:20

I never thought...that one phone call could change your life forever, but I was wrong..
You see..Earlier this year, before i started school again...something happend...I caught my girlfriend, well ex-gf now, sleeping with somebody else. She told me to never tell or she would kill me. On my way home I was jumped by three people...I broke one of them's jaw, and stabbed another...The person who I had stabbed had been my best friend in the world..He was like a brother to me. Last night I got a phone call from his parents saying that he had passed away. The reason of death: The knife wound. They told me that he wanted me to know he was sorry. I don't think anybody could be as sorry as I am. Last night, I tried to shoot myself, but the gun jammed. I don't know whether to think of it as a sign, or to try it again. I started this topic because, somehow telling all this to you guys (and girls) and getting it off my chest makes me feel a bit better. Im sorry for rambling on, but thank you for atleast taking the time to read this. I hope none of you EVER have something like this happen to you

LGM · Mon 21/02/2005 04:47:57

When I first started reading, I thought this was just a story..

If this really happened to you, that's awful deep and depressing. I just have to say that taking your life isn't the best way to relieve the pain. You were defending yourself, and that's that. I'm glad you got that phone call. At least you know he forgave you before he passed.

I don't know what else to say, other than to stay strong and use this as a important message in your life. I mean, hey.. You protected yourself from three grown men, that's a heroic tale if I ever heard one.

| Bass | · Mon 21/02/2005 04:52:35

Thanks lgm, i guess your right...i was..defending myself

Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 21/02/2005 04:47:57
You protected yourself from three grown men, that's a heroic tale if I ever heard one.

Thanks again..that made me laugh..and that helped a lot

LGM · Mon 21/02/2005 04:59:02

I'm glad I can help. If ever you want to talk some more in private, I can ALWAYS listen. LilGryphMaster on AIM, a.edmark@gmail.com for email.

I hope things go better for you.

DragonRose · Mon 21/02/2005 05:16:49

Bass, don't give up. Ever. You've been in two life threatening situations, and you've survived them. If you were supposed to die over this, it would have happened already. You've been given two extra chances at life. I wouldn't waste it.

Like LGM said, stay strong.

Kinoko · Mon 21/02/2005 05:28:04

That's a REALLY bizarre and tragic story, I feel terrible for you. As has been said though, you've come through it alive so take that as a sign if you need one that you're meant to stay alive. You didn't do anything wrong here, and it was just unfortunate the way things turned out.

Evil · Mon 21/02/2005 06:09:56

I have a good friend who has attemped suicide a good half dozen times. Every time he has failed. Attemped an O.D. and vomited it up a minute later. Tried to hang himself, the rope snapped. Tried to drown himself, passed out, fell and kicked the drain open. Even when he's been in life threatening situations, like when he got hit by a truck, he hasnt gotten hurt He once was jumpped, just as you were, and ended up stabbing his attacker killing him on site.

He isnt the brightest nor is he popular with females, and he's extreamly poor. But, through all of his experiences, I can tell you one thing. He is one of the kindest, most intellegent people I know. Some may say he has little to live for but he loves to be alive. He can make the downest person feel amazing.

You have oh so much to live for. And if not for you, live the rest of your life at best for your friend who can't. Life is to precious to waste.

| Bass | · Mon 21/02/2005 07:14:25

Thanks you guys for all the support. These are just tuff times, but I think i'll make it through. That failed attempt to commit suicide got me thinkin, and maybe its not meant to be. The gun i used had never once jammed on me until then. I think i may just need to stop thinking about this and try to put it all behind me. Thanks again you guys

SSH · Mon 21/02/2005 07:50:18

Its maybe a trite answer and sorry if its silly or offensive, but:

MAKE A GAME!

I find that few things make me feel better about myself than being creative.

Darth Mandarb · Mon 21/02/2005 08:11:23

Man ... Provo Utah must be a rougher place than I would have thought ...

Why did your 'best friend' jump you? Was he the one sleeping with your [ex]girlfriend?

You were you carrying a knife? Why?

The gun you tried to use jammed when it had never jammed on you before. Do you carry a gun with you?

What happened to the other guys who jumped you? How did that confrontation end?

Did this confrontation happen back near the beginning of school or was it recently?

Did the guy you shanked live for a few months before dying?

I'm assuming you aren't in jail / on trial because you're a minor?

Were the police involved?

You really should give us some more details. I'm not trying to be rude (at all!) but if you're going to post a topic like this on an internet message forum you really need to fill us in.

That, and if we keep you talking/typing you won't put that pistol back in your hand ...

Kinoko · Mon 21/02/2005 08:55:36

Darth: I was wondering about all of that too, but I didn't want to get too personal in case I sounded accusing, which I often do, because of the way I write.

Barbarian · Mon 21/02/2005 10:50:46

I really hope this is not another lame sad attempt at someone making up stories (or Trolling) to see what kind of attention or response they can get.

I seem to recall the "Bass Fisherman" (Who is "Bass"), who is also the same person who used to use other nicknames as well, that would sometimes post up strange posts just too see what kind of reaction he might get.

I mean, remember that "Bass" is known to be behind starting such crap-posts such as "Hey, it's safe to look directly at the Sun, and in fact improves your eye sight" type of posts:
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=15630.0

Still, if in fact what you say happen did happen "Bass", then, I'm just stating the facts as I know them so my apologies about my suspicions... But regardless, I will post up some of my thoughts on such a topic matter as you have now brought up:

In regards to topic of getting attacked and defending oneself: I've been attacked on many occasionaly, and on many occasionions I've been forced to defend myself. Sometimes I've very seriously hurt others, but at few points here to keep in mind:

* I always try to avoid a fight. Physical violence is always a very last resort.. however..
* If attacked, then (at least in my mind and experience) you have every right to defend yourself and your life or the life of other innocents.
* If attacked, and if one just passively chooses to accept it and does nothing to defend against it, then, there's a good chance you may end up seriously hurt, injured, maimed, paralyzed or perhaps even killed.

So, if it comes down to a choice of letting myself be seriously hurt (and possibly killed) or choosing to defend myself because some other jerk decided to attack me when I did not want to fight in the first place, then I will choose to rightfully defend myself and will use whatever force neccesary to do so, especially if thier intent is clear in that person or persons who attack me wish to seriously hurt or kill me.
* Live and let live I think. Avoid fights and conflicts when at all possible. Violence is a last resort, but defend oneself when neccessary.
* If someone else gets seriously hurt or (or possibly killed) because they tried to seriously hurt or kill me and I was forced to defend myself, then, of course I will feel terrible about the fact that I hurt (or killed) another human being... but... I will still accept the fact that it was neccesary at the time in order to defend myself against an unprovoked attack and I will go on with my life.

We all make mistakes in life and/or may experience some really bad situations, some quite serious, but I think there are not many situations that can truely justify comitting suicide. Life is precious, every day is a gift, appreciate and respect your life and the life of others.

Bombadil · Mon 21/02/2005 10:52:52

I am the worst person to cheer up people or to give courage so only two words...

STAY STRONG

jetxl · Mon 21/02/2005 11:31:37

Bass, that sounds terrible. The best thing to do is...<BEEP> <BEEP> <BEEP> <BEEP>. Oh, that my bullshit meter, I'll set is on mute. Now where was I....
The best thing to do is to take the safety off.

Al_Ninio · Mon 21/02/2005 14:00:12

Well, you know he'll be a great writer if he can get this kind of reaction from people at 15.

Ishmael · Mon 21/02/2005 15:21:44

That sounds... quite a point of view changing experience...

I really don't know what to say, as all I had in mind has already been said by others... What's left on my mind, I've been through some mentaly rough times lately, but I've decided that if I die by my own cause, I will die by drowning in my own tears. Just... nevermind...

As I do belive in fate, I think that gun jamming had something to do with that your time here isn't over...

----- EDIT -----

Quote from: Rui "Erik" Pires on Mon 21/02/2005 16:30:20[pedantic] Faith is roughly a synonim of belief, though not quite. "I have faith in" = "I believe in". Maybe you meant "fate". [/pedantic]

Oh, indeed.

I was thinking out loud, but actually not really thinking... or something.

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · Mon 21/02/2005 16:30:20

[pedantic] Faith is roughly a synonim of belief, though not quite. "I have faith in" = "I believe in". Maybe you meant "fate". [/pedantic]

Bass, you've gone through things no one should go through, but everyone does anyway. The fact that you're still alive and were able to discuss it here says a lot in your favour. Use that strength, and let the experience become a part of you as you grow up.

Yeach, that's so clichÃ©.

| Bass | · Tue 22/02/2005 02:12:16

Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Mon 21/02/2005 08:11:23
Man ... Provo Utah must be a rougher place than I would have thought ...

Why did your 'best friend' jump you?Ã,Â Was he the one sleeping with your [ex]girlfriend?

You were you carrying a knife?Ã,Â Why?

The gun you tried to use jammed when it had never jammed on you before.Ã,Â Do you carry a gun with you?

What happened to the other guys who jumped you?Ã,Â How did that confrontation end?

Did this confrontation happen back near the beginning of school or was it recently?

Did the guy you shanked live for a few months before dying?

I'm assuming you aren't in jail / on trial because you're a minor?

Were the police involved?

You really should give us some more details.Ã,Â I'm not trying to be rude (at all!) but if you're going to post a topic like this on an internet message forum you really need to fill us in.

That, and if we keep you talking/typing you won't put that pistol back in your hand ...

I was in Spanish Fork at the time, i always have my knife with me...I don't know why the gun jammed...just something stopped the firing pin from making contact with the primer...he did live a few months, but according to the doctors it was because of the knife wound...His parents said that they understand that it was an accident and aren't going to press charges...The "accident" happend a bit before school started..the other two ran as soon as i stabbed shawn...provo's not rough, and spanish fork really isn't either...

| Bass | · Tue 22/02/2005 02:13:51

Quote from: Barbarian on Mon 21/02/2005 10:50:46
I really hope this is not another lame sad attempt at someone making up stories (or Trolling) to see what kind of attention or response they can get.

I seem to recall the "Bass Fisherman" (Who is "Bass"), who is also the same person who used to use other nicknames as well, that would sometimes post up strange posts just too see what kind of reaction he might get.

I mean, remember that "Bass" is known to be behind starting such crap-posts such as "Hey, it's safe to look directly at the Sun, and in fact improves your eye sight" type of posts:
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=15630.0

Still, if in fact what you say happen did happen "Bass", then, I'm just stating the facts as I know them so my apologies about my suspicions... But regardless, I will post up some of my thoughts on such a topic matter as you have now brought up:

In regards to topic of getting attacked and defending oneself: I've been attacked on many occasionaly, and on many occasionions I've been forced to defend myself. Sometimes I've very seriously hurt others, but at few points here to keep in mind:

* I always try to avoid a fight. Physical violence is always a very last resort.. however..
* If attacked, then (at least in my mind and experience) you have every right to defend yourself and your life or the life of other innocents.
* If attacked, and if one just passively chooses to accept it and does nothing to defend against it, then, there's a good chance you may end up seriously hurt, injured, maimed, paralyzed or perhaps even killed.

So, if it comes down to a choice of letting myself be seriously hurt (and possibly killed) or choosing to defend myself because some other jerk decided to attack me when I did not want to fight in the first place, then I will choose to rightfully defend myself and will use whatever force neccesary to do so, especially if thier intent is clear in that person or persons who attack me wish to seriously hurt or kill me.
* Live and let live I think. Avoid fights and conflicts when at all possible. Violence is a last resort, but defend oneself when neccessary.
* If someone else gets seriously hurt or (or possibly killed) because they tried to seriously hurt or kill me and I was forced to defend myself, then, of course I will feel terrible about the fact that I hurt (or killed) another human being... but... I will still accept the fact that it was neccesary at the time in order to defend myself against an unprovoked attack and I will go on with my life.

We all make mistakes in life and/or may experience some really bad situations, some quite serious, but I think there are not many situations that can truely justify comitting suicide. Life is precious, every day is a gift, appreciate and respect your life and the life of others.

If you must know, those other posts as 00jon00, etc.Ã,Â were my idiotic friend bryan..not me..i check off to stay logged on and he used to get on to just surf the forum. But hey man, thanks for makin things sorta worse. Cheers to you

LGM · Tue 22/02/2005 03:45:07

What happened to the broken jaw guy?

What part of the body was your friend stabbed?