Anyone planning on seeing this? I was a big fan of Ringu and American remake, and evidently Hideo Nakata directed this new sequel. Unfortunately it seems to have gotten some bad reviews. Anybody seen it yet?
I might see it tonight with some friends. The trailers certainly make it look more intense, but I don't know if it can pull through yet. If it's better than The Grudge, I'll be happy.
hMM... It's been getting some REALLY awful reviews. Of course, that's never stopped me before. The trailer does make it look pretty creepy. The first one scared the bejeezes out of me. Most likely we'll wait for it to make it to the dollar theater (being broke really sucks!)
I think it's going to be great. The first one didn't scare me as much as it was a really good mystery that kept me watching, wondering how it was going to end (I even remember thinking: "Hey, this would make a good Adventure Game..."). I love horror movies, scary, non-scary OR cheesy.
The Ring was a great disapointment, so I doubt I'll waste my money on the ring 2. I'm still gonna give Ringu a shot tough, if I ever see it around.
If you didn't like The Ring, I wouldn't bother with Ringu. It's almost the same film after all.
As for The Ring 2, from rottentomatoes.com:
Ringu 93%
The Ring 73%
The Ring 2 28%
Oh dear.
I think I'll give it a miss.
(Foreign films tend to review better on rottentomatoes, partially because there are less reviews of the film.)
Not to imply you guys specifically, but it's always got on my nerves that people call it "Ringu". I mean, that's just the way katakana works in Japanese, you can't possibly write "Ring" so it comes out with the 'gu' on the end. When we're speaking English, it should just be called 'Ring', really... Given that it's the original, maybe the US version should be referred to as 'The US Ring' ^_^
I've never seen the Amaerican one, and I only saw the Japanese one after it had been out for a long time, so I had heard all the hype about how utterly spooky it was. I'm an absolute, 100% COWARD when it comes to horror movies. I can't look at horror movie posters because I'll have nightmares. I had trouble sleeping for a whole year after seeing the Exorcist. Yet, I watched Ring and thought, "... er. Gee, that was disappointing". Not to say it was a bad movie (or that it wasn't), but it just wasn't very scary. Maybe it was a lot worse in the cinema, and particularly if you hadn't previously heard what the 'thing' was.
Just about everyone has told me the US remake was worse, and even less scary, so I have no urge whatsoever to watch that. Is the new US Ring 2 the same story as the Japanese Ring 2? Either way, even though I hate horror movies anyway, I've lost any respect I might once have had for these movies...
Kinoko beat me to the punch on the whole 'Japanese pronounciation' thing, so I won't say anything other than "I agree completely".
I'm not entirely surprised, actually, that the Ring 2 is bombing if it's based off of the Spiral (Rasen) (http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/rasen.htm), or its merciful successor Ring "Let's pretend Spiral didn't happen" 2 (http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/ring2.htm), Japan's sequels to Ring. It would make sense, as they didn't do so well over there either. Altogether, I didn't think it was a particularly scary story to begin with. Maybe I'm desensitized by slashers and other freaky stuff that my brother would subject me to when I was a little kid, but now pretty much nothing short of gory freaks me out anymore (And that's mostly just 'coz I'm kinda gore-squeamish). The whole attraction of the Ring, especially in Japan, is the element of the supernatural, so if you aren't really freaked out by the concept of ghosts and things that go bump in the night in the first place, it oughtn't to have much of an effect.
That said, I'm still likely going to be going off to see it tomorrow with some friends, and will be better suited then to give it a review. As far as the first is concerned, I have both the original Japanese version, and the American remake. They're good for entertainment, but I didn't find them overly scary, really. I just like Nakatani Miki (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0620397/), she's one of those rare actors I actually go to movies to see (Another wierd trait in and of itself).
Let's just hope that they don't remake the Korean Ring spinoff, "The Ring Virus" (http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/ringvirus.htm). That would be bad. Or something like "Tomie" (http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/tomie.htm), which though has nothing to do with the Ring series, was just so bad, I felt the need to mention it.
I refer to it as "Ringu" because that's the name of the movie as released in the US, where I live. I mean, it bugs me that in Germany they change titles of American movies to completely different things (like Saving Private Ryan became The Soldier named Ryan or something like that), but I'm not going to make up names of movies based on pronunciation.
So it was released into the Us as "Ringu", written just like that? Then... well, whichever company did it are morons ^_^
I've only ever seen it discussed as "Ringu". If you google "Ringu" you get a ton of hits, including this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0178868/
But, it does say "Ring" on the box. I don't know. Perhaps it was released with different titles. I don't remember what the title was when I watched it on video, but I'm pretty sure it was "Ringu".
Hmmm, well, I never saw the Japanese version (Which since I live in the US, I ALSO thought it was actually called Ringu... my bad :) ). Anyway, I DID think Ring (us version) was scary.. but different people think different things are scary. I mean, slasher movies don't really scare me all that much, unless they are REALLY well done... which is rare. I just thought Ring was really creepy... plus, I watched it with my dad, and when it was over, he called my cell phone.... now THAT freaked me out. Anyway, I liked the first one.
OK.... so my boyfriend and I broke down this weekend and spent money we really didn't have to go see the second one. Ok, so it definately was NOT as scary as the first one. It had it's creepy moments, but all in all it really wasn't that scary (Ok, so the hundreds of teeny boppers in the audience that wouldn't shut up the whole time kind of spoiled the mood...) ANyway... it was a fun movie to watch. There was some REALLY bad CGI. There's this scene where deer were attacking the car... it was terrible! One thing I did like about it was it explained the story more. You learn more about why all these things are happening. The same little boy that was in the first one, is in this one, and I like him. he does a really good job.... he's really creepy.
Anyway, I thought it was alright. Some of it was good, some bad.
Quote from: Kinoko on Sat 19/03/2005 02:40:46
Not to imply you guys specifically, but it's always got on my nerves that people call it "Ringu".
Whenever I hear the word "Ringu", this comes to my brain:
(http://www.so-net.ne.jp/kids/pingu/img/logo.jpg)
(http://home.pacific.net.hk/~shung/favorites/pingu.gif)
I have no idea how many of you that grew up with this cartoon.
I think the exact same thing... It sucks nowadays though. Did you know they changed the intro to some kind of child-pop version? It sucks
Quote from: [lgm] on Fri 18/03/2005 21:08:29
If it's better than The Grudge, I'll be happy.
I stubbed my toe last night, and THAT was better then The Grudge.
C.
Quote from: Haddas on Mon 21/03/2005 19:53:55
I think the exact same thing... It sucks nowadays though. Did you know they changed the intro to some kind of child-pop version? It sucks
Well, atleast they havn't made it anime... yet.
I liked The Grudge too. :-[
Hillbilly: Pingu r0x0rs. I used to watch that show everyday when I was 7 or so. Channel 2, w00t. ^_^
And, The Grudge sucks. Majorly. It actually made me laugh when I watched it. Especially that security camera part. :P
I did like the Ring, though. I might see the sequel in the next week or so, but I might be scared off by the terrible ratings on RottenTomatoes.com.
Go see Hostage instead.. One of the better movies I've seen in a theater for a long time.
The original Ring was the least scary film I've seen, and with some of the most clumbsy dialogue as well, I really can't fathom it's success beyond fanboyism.
[I do tend to call it Ring though, since I revel in mocking kana-isations of English words, Hipu Hopu and Mamugaramu being some of my favourites.]
Isn't it fair to say that the film is called 'Ringu', but that the U is silent?
As in: "ringu" is the Latin transcription of the kanji transcription of the English loan-word "ring" in Japanese?
Whatever it's called, I found the Japanese film extremely scary.
Spoiler
A dead girl climbing out of a well...
...there's just something viscerally frightening about that.
Gore doesn't really bother me, though.
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 21/03/2005 23:58:58
Go see Hostage instead.. One of the better movies I've seen in a theater for a long time.
I agree, LGM. I went into 'Hostage' with low expectations, and found myself watching a very taut film. I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Bt
I expected a lot less, as I was misinformed that it was a "PG-13" film. But I knew I was wrong after the first line of dialog was screamed. :)
I saw the original Japanese film after I saw the American version and it really is the same film except for some amusing differences in character traits. In the American version, the main character is a strong and independant woman who bosses around her ex and mostly investigates/solves the main conflict herself. In the Japanese version, the main character is whiney and weak and prone to fits of weeping stopped only by a good open hand slap from the male protagonist. I thought that was very interesting...
But I liked both, and I actually like Gore Verbinski 's version a lot. There aren't many GOOD horror movies out there, and that's one of them.
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 23/03/2005 01:52:57
Isn't it fair to say that the film is called 'Ringu', but that the U is silent?
As in: "ringu" is the Latin transcription of the kanji transcription of the English loan-word "ring" in Japanese?
Not reeeeeally. The 'u' isn't silent, that's how the Japanese would say it, but their language doesn't allow for consanents (I know it's spelt wrong) on their own (apart from 'n' but that's another story). My point was that that have their own word for 'ring' in Japanese, but they've chosen to call name it after the English word. That's the only way they can write/pronounce the English word... since we can say it properly (not implying they aren't doing it -properly-, but you know what I mean), then I think we should.
I think the Japanese should continue to transform their language according to that pattern, just to facilitate for us
English-speakers.
"Hellou, au bowlu ofu sakeu, pleaseu."
Well actually it's something like:
Ha-Ro, A BoURu OBu SaKe, PuRiSu.
Speaking of wacky naming decisions following Japanese-horror-film-to-American-horror-film transitions:
I'm sure you're all aware of and have adamantly avoided "The Grudge" -- the crap Sarah Michelle Gellar version of the (arguably) crap Japanese horror flick series called, "Ju-on." (or, more accurately romajinized [not a word] for Kinoko's sake, "Juuon")
Well... After "Ju-on" achieved sucess here in the land of the rising sun, and the remake, "The Grudge" did quite well in America, they decided to fleece the Japanese people again by bringing Buffy's "The Grudge" back over with Japanese subtitles. I just saw the poster at the theater the other week. I couldn't help but laugh at the name.
"The Ju-on."
Great choice.
"Juon" -> English = "The Grudge"
"The Grudge" -> Japanese = "The Ju-on"???
That's just weird @_@
man, i saw that movie and that is some scary editing there i recomend this movie if u wanna revisit your childhood and wet your bed...:\
off topic...kind of, it was scary:constantine
expected a good but not amazing movie, turned out veryyyyyyy good and it has some jumpy parts and suspenseful moments which do scare you. I belive i am going ot see the ring two this week though ;D i'll post my thots...my feelings...my emotions
Speaking of remakes, Has anyone heard anything about or seen the new Amityville. I've seen the sequal to Amityville and thought it was ok. I cant seem to find the first one round here.
Side note: The Last House on the Left has been unbanned in Austrlia and is now out on DVD.
I've seen the second Amityville aswell.. I was young.. It scared the hell out of me..
This remake looks cool.. But I expect another "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" Remake type thing.. It IS produced by Michael Bay. It'll probably lose the feel of the original film, but still be scary and entertaining.
Have you ever seen the original Amityville Horror? Wow that's a bad movie. Depressingly bad. It sets up a lot of great tension then just kills it with stupidity. And tar. Or something like that.