rpg & OSD

Started by Icey, Tue 11/05/2010 03:09:10

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Icey

Quote from: Lyaer on Sat 22/05/2010 23:45:25
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 21/05/2010 22:51:25
What's wrong with teaming up with someone?
Seriously, good games are rarely made by one man. Having a team project allows each member to focus on what's he/she is best at (writing story/drawing/coding etc).
Since you have pretty nice drawing skills, but have problems scripting rpg engine in AGS, you can seek for someone with better scripting skills to help you out.
Maybe you could even find another FF fan :)))

To Icey
Yeah seriously, mate.  If you have what it takes to work with another person, stick with a project, and compromise when your teammate(s) have their own ideas for the story/design elements (and really from what I have seen in this thread, you look like you are relatively open to that particular kind of input) you are actually in a pretty good position.  Granted, your reputation in these parts seems to have taken a bit of a hit, but there are a lot of competent scripters around who are not very good artists and would kill for a chance to work someone who has an easier time in that area.

If you can find someone who is willing to work with you, it might be worth a shot.  Though I'll be frank--you might have a slightly better chance if you offer your services, rather than asking people to join your project, at least for your first game.  People don't seem to like you very much right now, unfortunately, but you definitely have something to offer a project.  If you do good work with/for someone else's game, you'll get some great experience and maybe win some respect back.  Though at this point I wouldn't really blame you if you thought it wasn't worth it.  A lot of these guys have been absolute jerks to you (no offense, guys).

hum, i really understand what your saying :] . i will give it a shot, i mean what have i got to lose any ways?...oh & um, thanks. i really like to here when people give good advise it sorta pushes me on, you know.

mitlark

Lyaer haves the truth in his mouth xD.
Quote from: icey games on Sun 23/05/2010 00:24:51
hum, i really understand what your saying :] . i will give it a shot, i mean what have i got to lose any ways?...oh & um, thanks. i really like to here when people give good advise it sorta pushes me on, you know.
You have nothin' to lose, you have something to gain ;D.

Anyway, scripting is as fun as doing graphics xD, good luck,
L'ark Mitsinikos
SPIN SPIN! SPIN SPIN!

Icey

Quote from: mitlark on Sun 23/05/2010 00:50:08
Lyaer haves the truth in his mouth xD.
Quote from: icey games on Sun 23/05/2010 00:24:51
hum, i really understand what your saying :] . i will give it a shot, i mean what have i got to lose any ways?...oh & um, thanks. i really like to here when people give good advise it sorta pushes me on, you know.
You have nothin' to lose, you have something to gain ;D.

Anyway, scripting is as fun as doing graphics xD, good luck,
L'ark Mitsinikos
thanx

Charity

Alright!  I haves the truth in my mouth.  Brilliant.

Don't thank me yet, though.  Reputation is still a big part of getting people to work with you, and the anime sort of style you use might not be what a lot of people are looking for (it seems like most people either love that style or hate it, but if you look at most of the games produced here, you'll see that they tend to shoot for either a more realistic style or one based more in the western cartoon tradition, so it may be safe to infer that that is what most people are looking for.)  But you can still draw, which is more than a lot of coder/writer types can say for themselves, and there may be some anime lovers lurking in the shadows.

The best advice you can take is to follow advice.  There's a good bit of it in this thread, and some of it isn't worded very nicely, but a lot it is still probably worth taking.  I see grammar come up a lot.  I think your grammar has improved even over the course of this thread.  That's a good thing.

I can sympathize with this one, because when I first started on the internet, I didn't know where to put a period.  One of the first places I posted was on a role playing forum.  After a couple of (really, really terrible) posts in my first game there, the guy running it got (understandably) frustrated with and said "you can keep playing with us, but for God's sake, use periods."  I wasn't very confident that I knew the right place for a period at the time, but I used them anyway, and tried to imitate the better writers as well as I could, and after a year of role playing there, one of my teachers told me I was one of the best writers in my high school.  (Mileage may very.  And it was a small school that only went up to grade ten, so the accomplishment isn't THAT huge, but the point is, keep at it and you'll get better.)

You seem to have periods down okay, but keep working on them.  I know spelling and punctuation are kind of stupid and pointless, once you've gotten to the point where people know what you are trying to say, but when people who use more or less proper punctuation, etc. read things written by people who don't, we tend to read them slightly differently in our heads.  There are a lot of tiny subtleties to pronunciation in English.  So for instance the letter "u" doesn't end up sounding the same as the word "you" and the letter "X" sounds slightly different than the combo "ks" so that "that sux" and "that sucks" sound just a little different.  It might even be more of an association thing than it is the actual sound, but regardless, when a lot of people read that stuff, it sounds a bit like funny, broken English in their heads, and it can have an unfortunate negative effect on their impressions of the writer.  I'm not going to attempt to defend this way of thinking, because it is kind of unfair, not to mention anal, but it still stands that the better your writing is, the more intelligent people will tend to think you are--and the more likely they will be to take you seriously and treat you politely.

I'd say probably the best thing you could do right now is to try to get into the habit of capitalization.  I don't know if this is very easy on your phone or not, but it should be possible, and you shouldn't need to do it more than a couple of times per sentence.  Just capitalize the first letter of every sentence, any names, and "I" when you use it to refer to yourself.  I bet you anything, just that and keeping on with the periods will make people take you a little more seriously.  Because it happens at the beginning of a sentence, it is also the first thing people will see when they read your posts, so in a way you could say that even iffy capitalization will literally give you a good first impression.  So seriously, just pay attention to this paragraph and ignore everything else that I say.

Apologies if you have learned more grammar than your posts show and it seems like I am talking down to you.  That is not my intent.  I figure sometimes it just helps to hear the same stuff a few times until it clicks.

Regarding RPGs:  I've been working on an RPG battle system for a while now, with the up to date versions of AGS.  It isn't very cleanly coded, and if I ever get around to using it, I would rather keep it unique, so I won't share it with you. However, I would be happy to help you work through some of the concepts involved if you drop me a PM.  Explaining what I have done would help me wrap my mind around what I am doing better, anyway, so it could be a mutually beneficial transaction, and it wouldn't clutter the board so much.

I won't be able to discuss it a lot for the next couple of weeks, since I've got some projects due and Finals coming up.  After that I will be relatively free, however.

Icey

WOW that was a lot. But I think I got it all :]
  And your not talking down to me, I totally respect all the advice I get. It's just some times the way I take it, Which makes it seem like I don't care, But i do.

Icey

Quote from: Lyaer on Sun 23/05/2010 03:35:27

Regarding RPGs:  I've been working on an RPG battle system for a while now, with the up to date versions of AGS.  It isn't very cleanly coded, and if I ever get around to using it, I would rather keep it unique, so I won't share it with you. However, I would be happy to help you work through some of the concepts involved if you drop me a PM.  Explaining what I have done would help me wrap my mind around what I am doing better, anyway, so it could be a mutually beneficial transaction, and it wouldn't clutter the board so much.

I won't be able to discuss it a lot for the next couple of weeks, since I've got some projects due and Finals coming up.  After that I will be relatively free, however.

Thanks for the offer. when you are able to work with me can you please PM me first? That way I could show you what I need help with.

Charity

#286
Great work.  Looks better already.  One thing: if you separate text with a comma (,), the text on both sides of the comma is still part of the same sentence.  Same goes for colons (:), semicolons (;), dashes (-), and parentheses ( () ), et cetera.  Therefore, you don't need to capitalize letters after any of these characters.  Characters that are used to separate sentences are periods (.), exclamation points (!), question marks (?), and sometimes ellipses (...).  So if you use one of those to end a thought, then your next thought should begin with a capital letter.

Sometimes ellipses are used in the middle of a sentence, for effect.  Like:
"I wouldn't say he is ugly; he's just...aesthetically challenged."
It's still one sentence, so you probably wouldn't capitalize "aesthetically."

But if you end the sentence with an ellipse, like:
"I am sad..."
If you write another thought after that, it will be a different sentence, and would begin with a capital letter.

And no problem, I can for sure PM you once school is out.  But if I forget, and you don't hear from me before the 15th or so, feel free to PM and tell me what a neglectful bastard I am.

EDIT:  Read back a couple pages.  I see you have been capitalizing on and off.  Missed that.  Sorry.  Keep up the good work.

Icey

Quote from: Lyaer on Sun 23/05/2010 05:53:13


And no problem, I can for sure PM you once school is out.  But if I forget, and you don't hear from me before the 15th or so, feel free to PM and tell me what a neglectful bastard I am.

Seems sorta mean,but I will pm you if you forget :]

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