I could barely believe my ears when i heard that the Simpsons Season 16 won no emmys. No, wait, i could. Season 16 was kinda crappy. I know this has been discussed before (in a thread I created i believe), but what exactly do you think is the formula, and does this happen to all animations that do not cancel when appropriate, like futurama.
For example, while Family Guy remains a funny animation, compare a Season 4 ep with a Season 2 ep, and you'll notice some differeneces.
Then there's South Park, now in its 9th Season i believe, lacks the insanely funny quotes, acts etc. of Season 1 up to about Season 6.
The doom of animation is upon us!!!
It's not about animation. It's about everything.
Why, do you believe that 10 Seasons of friends was good?
You have to translate the seasons into hours: you get 24 episodes 25 minutes each (ok maybe 20 but, anyway). That's 24^2=576, around 12 hours of The Simpsons!
Now make that 16 Seasons and you get 12*16=192 hours!
That is around 200 hours of Simpsons!
Now try making that into how many movies you could make. Around 100? 140?
Well now I ask you this: Can you imagine how boring Spider Man 120 could possible be?
My point: When you have the same guy writting about the same family for 16 years, well he's bound to dry out. Even if it is not the same guy but another guy. How can he use the same material (The Simpsons family), and base 12 hours of quality show? It's just imposible.
And anyway, if I'm not mistaken futurama was again by Mat Broening (something like that), which means that himself was bored ofthe Simpsons, and tried to get away. He obviously failed (to get away, not the Futurama!) and the result is another 10 years of The Simpsons!
Now, I will have Farlander backing me up here!
Thank you for your time!
Just to point out, I highly doubt Matt Groening had much to do with the simpsons after a few years.
I was told a story at work how he went into a meeting where they were hashing out a script and he asked if he could come in... Then he raised his hand to speak and said "I think Lisa should say something now..." and no one knew how to tell him that the current scene was taking place in Bart's classroom and they are in different grades.
It also took Matt many years to get Futurama to be made because people didn't think he could do it again, plus science fiction and all that... But anyway, yea... Just to throw that out there.
I think South Park is really hitting its peak lately. I find the show ninja-kicks the jokes way better than The Simpsons does.
Many people have a variety of answers as to why The Simpsons is losing its touch. And they're all probably right. But I just find their sense of humour isn't as goofy.
Also, somewhere along the way they turned Homer from a dumb guy who's delightful and innocent (Matt Groening rule of comedy: "The audience loves a slow thinker") into an annoying, hyperactive manchild.
I think that The Simpsons has gone way too long, but Futurama was cut way too short. I absolutely love Futurama, but I just don't share this feeling with the Simpsons anymore.
This gets discussed so often on the forums, it should be in the FAQ. Or popular threads. Or added to the forum signup questionairre:
You feel that the simpsons isnt as good/popular as it used to be. Do you:
a) Use the forum search feature to find that 196 threads about this already and decided that its been done to death already
b) Post how much you think that the Simpsons has declined in a new thread so that everyone can reiterate how they thought that Futurama was canned to early
c) Slightly injure yourself because you take a comic cartoon series way too seriously
d) Find another forum that gives a monkeys
e) Claim that Matt Groenig is a god and get flamed by the religious fundamentalists who say that the only true god is the FSM/Pope/whatever...
EDIT: Toned down, because I wasn't really trying to get at the OP, in fact I saw the replies to this thread before I saw the original...
Quote from: SSH on Sun 11/12/2005 23:02:20
e) Claim that Matt Groenig is a god and get flamed by the religious fundamentalists who say that the only true god is the FSM/Pope/whatever...
Oh, come on, we all know that the only true god is CJ. :P
Although Futurama being cut short was something I wouldn't even let myself believe for a time there ("It'l be back! SHUT UP!"), I can know at least see the beauty in it being preserved as the wonderful show it was, never having the chance to go downhill.
I still adore the Simpsons, and as much as it has gone downhill, everytime I lose faith in it, I watch a new episode and end up laughing myself silly. There's still a lot of gold there.
I really attribute the Simpson's to people like David Silverman and the regular writers. Matt had a lot to do with it at the start and obviously, I have huge respect for him and eveything, but I have a feeling he had a lot more to do with Futurama once that started up.
Anyway, I kind of think that the Simpson's has gone on longer than it "should" have, but now that it's done it, I really don't care if it keeps going. I still get some big laughs out of it now and again :) It's so subjective anyway, everyone has a different idea about exactly which period defines the Simpsons. For one, everytime I watch the first series, I'm saddened by the way they cut out the touching scenes. Homer was mostly just slightly uneducated, but deep down a really good father who tried to do the best for his family.
Of course, a few seasons in and it was 10 times as hilarious, and I think that's the Homer that defined "Homer" for me.
I also always think of how much I miss Lisa being a kid. She used to play with Bart a lot, laugh at Itchy and Scratchy (convincingly), and was simply more educated than the rest of the family rather than a vegetarian, left-wing, alternative protestor... person. I really like how she used to have a lot of fun with Bart and join in on the pranks.
Marge changed a lot too after the first season. She used to be a real typical put-upon house wife. Let's face it, these days she kicks ass. I'd do Marge any day of the week @_@
So, the Simpsons has always changed... it's different these days, I don't care that much. As long as I can have it all on DVD and watch what I want, when I want.
I still enjoy new Simpsons episodes (or just get excited at the fact its not a rerun), they may not be as good, but it sure beats watching the 6996th replay of an old one (only a few exceptions).
[on a funny note, ever notice characters like Smithers and Marvin Monroe turn from black to yellow, and Wiggam's hair turn from black to blue, I think it just must be changes from the first season]
Looking at some of the early seasons, its hard to see how it was enjoyed back then, there was a gold patch somewhere (when the opening credits were cut short) and the treehouse of horrors were always good.
but if Futurama had more seasons it would just end up the same, no one can be happy, it either goes on too long or cut short.
Only time can tell, I'm not a big fan of Futurama and I can't see how it could have gone much further.
Look at shows like Fawlty Towers, there were only 13 episodes (i think) and it was all pure gold, obviously more in the era of entertainment than money.
Seinfeld had I think 9 seasons and stopped before it went too far, it also took longer to get a following. But went out at a good time.
Except for the fact it made that Raymond show popular, I can't believe that show was popular, the guy was not funny at all, and no one loved him. (why the fuck didn't he just move away from his parents, simple as that and the show fucks off) it was just the last show in a dying breed of US sitcoms
Haven't seen anything (well not much) on TV that I've enjoyed since 199*
I like the Simpsons, but have been out of the loop for many years. I actually just wated to post here just to congratulate Flukeblake on another attempt to be part of the community. He's got us talking intelligently about a subject (even if said subject doesn't really require much intelligence to talk about). He hasn't given us a retardhog that he whipped up in a self-admitted two minutes and asked if we like it. He hasn't said "I," or "me," but has asked us opinion and attempted to stir conversation about a topic he knows more people than just him are interested in.
Good on 'ya, mate.
Don't patronise him, Esper.
Anyway, the Simpsons are kinda dead to me. I don't enjoy it HALF as much I used to, and you just don't get those classic Homer quotes anymore.
South Park, however, I feel has matured a lot over it's 9 seasons of running (next I believe is the 10th season, which will be the last.) Cartman's character has really been defined and the comedy has gone from 'say a bunch of swear words and shock to everybody' to actual genuine comedy which you can see in the latest episodes. I still love season 8 though!
I'm sorry, do you mean:
Quote1. To treat in a condescending manner.
2. To go to as a customer, especially on a regular basis.
3. To act as a patron to; support or sponsor.
Ã, Ã, Ã, -dictionary.com
Because I'm not trying to be condescending, I sure as hell don't want to buy anything off him (especially not repeatedly), and I'm not sure what's wrong with showing a member of the community who hasn't had the best run of luck around here that he's welcome.
You might call it "atoning for past sins."
Quote from: esper on Mon 12/12/2005 06:13:30
You might call it "atoning for past sins."
:-[
Ah, don't take it as an insult. Esper's right in that people posting non-communicative threads or posts without little investment are often jumped on and nagged at for some time. He's making sure that he makes recognition of the improvement. All the same, I don't think the issue needs to be harped upon any more (positively or negatively).
As far as the Simpson's, I haven't seen many episodes (perhaps 2 seasons worth all together), but I can see why it'd start dying off after awhile. Animated series can't rely upon attractive actors, or soap opera-esque plotlines to draw the audience into the show's world (seldom done in animation, particularly a comedy series). Every show has to have something unique. Even if that special something is a new pinnacle of vulgarity, violence, or just excellent humorous writing. I still love The Family Guy, but can't watch a marathon of it or several episodes off a DVD season. The formula stops producing laughter and starts producing monotony when it's repeated that frequently. Thankfully, The Simpsons had enough variety (and sheer randomity) that it managed to avoid repeating too many "in" jokes or using the same comedic tempo time after time.
"...and was simply more educated than the rest of the family rather than a vegetarian..."
Hey! I resent that!
I used to(not anymore) watch the Simpsons everyday and watch the new episodes on FOX all the time.Ã, Looking back on the older episodes, I can see a HUGE difference between new ones.Ã, Ã,Â
The storyline of the new episodes are way too crazy and stupid.Ã, For example (NEW EPISODE): Homer get's this new RV and parks it in his backyard. Then marge can't live with homer no more,Ã, Lisa and Bart tries to drive the RV back to the dealer so it would save their parents marriage.
(OLD EPISODE): Bart ruins thanksgiving and runs away from home.Ã, Then he comes back to say sorry.Ã, Ã,Â
As you can see, the newer episodes are way to dumb. It started to get stupid ever since that Mr.X episode.Ã, Anyways, the stories aren't the same as they used to, that's why I don't watch the Simpsons anymore, and that's why I thinks it's losing it's popularity.
The new episodes and the humour is not as clever as the old episodes. Dumbed down as all the other TV-shows.
Okay. First thing I'd like to say: I really don't like the new Simpsons episodes. I can't watch them.
Second thing: Dan Castelaneta was FRIGGIN' HILARIOUS last night at The British Comedy Awards.
-EDIT-
Ooh, and third thing: amily Guy is the most overrated Tv show in the history of the world, ever.
QuoteOoh, and third thing: amily Guy is the most overrated Tv show in the history of the world, ever
Finally!
I agree. There are some things on Family Guy that are funny, and very much so... Stewie is great, and Brian... Plus, I'm originally from Newport, RI, so I get some of the in-jokes (a quoahog is like a really big clam, which I think only exist in New England, and everyone in Newport being rich and snobby)... But most of the show is pointed at trying to break a barrier that doesn't really need to be broken. Let's make fun of things which no one has ever made fun of before seems to be their motto, but this results in crass and pointless humor which is only funny to people who wank more than three times a day.
So then you must find it HILARIOUS!
i think it's true that Simpson is getting quite dull.
I agree that South Park is funnier than ever before.
The political under and overtones really suits the show. I like the way the show pisses on both left and right.
I don't think that the animation is dying. I just think it's changing and new shows are taking over.
Have anyone seen the show Robot Chicken? It's one of the funniest shows I have seen in a very long time. It really hit the stupidity of television right on the spot plus it got all the actionfigures I played with when I was a kid.
Anyone remember Freakazoid? Whatever happened to that? I have very fond memories of that show!
The first season of Family Guy was great, but now it's just a big mush of randomness, "remember that time when..." and broadway music. Seth is just a mediocre writer who got lucky.
And for the record, I ordered the full series of "Dastardly & Muttley in Their Flying Machines" on DVD today, and that show never got old.
Quote from: HillBilly on Fri 16/12/2005 17:33:02
The first season of Family Guy was great, but now it's just a big mush of randomness, "remember that time when..." and broadway music. Seth is just a mediocre writer who got lucky.
Blasphemy!
Quote from: Thomas Voà Ÿ on Fri 16/12/2005 17:39:17
Quote from: HillBilly on Fri 16/12/2005 17:33:02
The first season of Family Guy was great, but now it's just a big mush of randomness, "remember that time when..." and broadway music. Seth is just a mediocre writer who got lucky.
Blasphemy!
Yeah, because everyone on the Internet has to like Family Guy.
No, not only on the internet!
I love family guy, but....then again I do "wank it" a lot....
Quote from: HillBilly on Fri 16/12/2005 17:33:02
Seth is just a mediocre writer who got lucky.
If you've seen Schnookums and Meat Cartoon Hour maybe you'd change your tune!
Also, if you've met the writing crew and sat in on a session and went through whatever process Family Guy goes through to get a script approved and finalized maybe then you'd be able to make a random assumption on someone you've never met!
But more the Schnookums and Meat thing, I'd LOVE to see that damned cartoon again...
Right!
And about the whole randomness:
The many flashbacks got less, as the show progessed.
If you have seen the first episode, you will know, that it still had the probably most flashbacks of them all!
(At least until season 3, since I haven't any other seasons, because they are aired in germany 2 years later!)
On the other hand, the episode "From Method to Madness", for example, had only two or three of them, wich made me kind of sad, since it's one of the attributes of the show.
This were my two pence!
However, Family Guy totally jumped the shark after they killed Maude Flanders...
I prefer TV shows stopping too soon over dwindling on season after season...
Humour is very subjective... I hate the Simpsons since the 7th season and NEVER ever had a laugh with Family Man... But I understand someone still laughs with it... It's something we can't discuss, really.
Quote from: MrColossal on Fri 16/12/2005 21:14:46
However, Family Guy totally jumped the shark after they killed Maude Flanders...
Wait a minute... This happened in "The Simpsons"!
Why should it affect Family Guy?
Because Maude's death led to the introduction of Cousin Oliver.
And then Pamela woke up and saw that Maude's death was just a dream...
"What's Family Guy?" asked Maude.
Remember?
Quote from: MrColossal on Fri 16/12/2005 20:49:39
Also, if you've met the writing crew and sat in on a session and went through whatever process Family Guy goes through to get a script approved and finalized maybe then you'd be able to make a random assumption on someone you've never met!
Have you met Seth? And even if you had, can't I have the opinion of thinking that Family Guy got sloppy after they gave Seth more control of the show, without Fox breathing down his neck? I think the Simpsons goes through some kind of process before their script is done and approved too, but that don't stop it from going downhill.
And I based my opinion on Family Guy, not on "random assumptions". It started out fresh, but got old fast. Sure, the show got some highlights, but it was much better before. Also, if I'm going to get technical about this, the animation is also mediocre. There's usually just one frame between someone standing up and hitting the floor. And even though this can sometimes give a comedic effect, there's other examples that pretty much just like that, without being funny. At times I wonder if my screen has frozen, because no one is moving.
I don't have to meet them, since I didn't make a comment that would warrant me needed to know them.
But I was just messing around, not trying to pick a fight.
However, on the animation, there's even less in Aqua Teens and it rules you all with an iron fist, so... Tweening Frames != Good Show!
You don't have to be a wanker to enjoy Aqua Teens, true...
Quote from: Las Naranjas on Fri 16/12/2005 22:01:09
Because Maude's death led to the introduction of Cousin Oliver.
Quote from: DGMacphee on Fri 16/12/2005 22:31:04
And then Pamela woke up and saw that Maude's death was just a dream...
"What's Family Guy?" asked Maude.
Remember?
Sorry, I... I have no Idea what you're talking about!
Are you yankin' me?
All you need to know is that it's MAGIC!
I will just ignore this comment, and pretend, we never had this confusing conversation.
Thomas must have... MISSED AN EPISODE!!
Quote from: Eyebag on Fri 16/12/2005 16:32:11
Anyone remember Freakazoid? Whatever happened to that? I have very fond memories of that show!
Indeed, Freakazoid was awesome.
Hah, funny, I just had a Freakazoid marathon with a friend the other day, watched the first series.
She somehow managed to fall asleep near the end. :(
Good times.
As to why it was cancelled, this might shed some (very little) light: http://zvbxrpl.blogspot.com/2004/07/freakazoid.html
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sat 17/12/2005 17:22:51
Thomas must have... MISSED AN EPISODE!!
What an insolence!
Me? Missing an episode?!?
No, it's more likely, that you are talking about an episode, wich didn't run in germany, yet.
There is this 2 year delay, I mentioned above.
Can't you download em' off the internet? Torrents?
Sorry I must have missed that bit.
2 year gap! (Now aware of Thomas V. being from Germany, Matt attempts to use his pathetic German vocabulary, for it is the first opportunity to do so) They better schnell with that! Else I'll point a gun at them and shout "hande hoc!" and "achtung!" if they don't get on with it! So then you can say "Guten tag" to new episodes! (Spelling may be well off here...)
Do you watch Family Guy in german then? I've seen Star trek Next gen in German! It's weird cos the voices are so different sometimes!
Can't you import a DVD of family guy with the same region code?
Hey, that wasn't bad!
And yes, I watch Family Guy in germany.
The german version sucks, though, because the translator is a moron!
An example:
Original:
Alexis: "The loser says 'what?'"
Lois: "What? ... Argh!"
German (translated back to english):
Alexis: "What says the loser?"
Lois: "Huh? ... Argh!"
As you can see, it doesn't make any sense!
That's why I buy the DVDs, you can switch between german and english.
And yes, I imported season 3 per amazon.de a while ago, since season three is not on DVD in germany, yet.
And I want close my post with following FG-quote:
SIE WERDEN SICH HINSETZEN!
SIE WERDEN RUHIG SEIN!
SIE WERDEN NICHT BELEIDIGEN DEUTSCHLAND!
Say what? *Looks up in translator* What's a "HINSETZEN"? Me no insult Germany. Take this!
wir kampfen um den siegeszug - kriegen nie genug kriege sind zum tanzen da - uns're freiheit ist so nah
maschine panzermensch
deine schritte so schon - tanzen wir das wiederseh'n
uns're blicke sind so stark - jeder tanzt wie ich es sag'
schwache beine bleiben steh'n weitergeh'n, feiern wir die energie - diese kraft verschwindet nie
geh g'radeaus lass es raus
seid bereit immer kommt
Haha tankperson or something! I love this song by And one, but I have no idea what the hell they are going on about, despite putting it through a computer translator. I sing it out loud at work (The chorus anyway) I hope I aint saying anything offensive!
Ah, yes the whole translation = losing jokes thing. Sector 5's excellent Stargate game suffered from some of that. And... danny boy? Since when did O'neill call him Danny boy?
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sat 17/12/2005 20:11:35
Say what? *Looks up in translator*Ã, What's a "HINSETZEN"? Me no insult Germany. Take this!
"Hinsetzen" means "sit down" and, yes, it was just a FG quote, also in the original version, I put in for fun!
One question still:
When you said, I missed an episode, did you mean Simpsons or Family Guy?
I meant what you thought I meant. Family guy. (Of which I've seen about three episodes of. At least if I ever bought it on DVD it would be virtually new to me)
Well, you don't seem to be offended by the german lyrics, so that's cool. A legend who walks??? Eh? Oh well.
PS- I learnt that bit of german from a game called "Prisoner of war" where you had to escape german war camps during world war 2. See, games CAN be educational! :)
Oh yeah, I saw this game on TV.
But the way they pronounce it - LOL!
And watch mor episodes of Family Guy, it's great.
If they will ever cancel it, I gonna kill myself!
Lucky, I didn't do it early enough the last two times!
Quote from: Squinky on Sat 17/12/2005 19:54:53
Can't you download em' off the internet? Torrents?
Oops, I noticed this comment just now.
Download them?
Isn't it illegal?!? :o ???
Sounds like Thomas hasn't seen the episode with zvarily in it....
Since I don't know, what or who "zvarily" is, you must be right.
What show?
I Second Thomas Voà Ÿ!!
Family Guy is nothing but references and jokes about injuries or stupid people. Like: Peter suddenly falling down the stairs, throwing up because he drank a bottle of Ipecac, and any episode ever, because they all have references. It's not even funny.
I hope it gets cancelled, and I hope you come to your senses before it does, Thomas.
Quote from: Flukeblake on Sun 11/12/2005 21:19:01
I could barely believe my ears when i heard that the Simpsons Season 16 won no emmys. No, wait, i could. Season 16 was kinda crappy. I know this has been discussed before (in a thread I created i believe), but what exactly do you think is the formula, and does this happen to all animations that do not cancel when appropriate, like futurama.
Futurama did not 'cancel when appropriate'.
QuoteThe doom of animation is upon us!!!
That doesn't really make sense.
Quote from: Bluke4x4 on Sun 08/01/2006 21:22:05Family Guy is nothing but references and jokes about injuries or stupid people. Like: Peter suddenly falling down the stairs, throwing up because he drank a bottle of Ipecac, and any episode ever, because they all have references. It's not even funny.
I hope it gets cancelled, and I hope you come to your senses before it does, Thomas.
Perhaps were you a tad older than 12 you'd better understand the show and it's "references"?
I just recently discovered the show and love the hell out of it! I'm a child of the 80's ... so perhaps it means more to me. But it's been a long while since I've laughed this hard at a TV show.
And considering it's one of a VERY few shows ever to be brought back on-air by a demanding audience and over whelming DVD sales, I'd say your opinion is in the minority ;)
The Writer's Guild of America (WGA) recently announced their nominees.
http://www.wga.org/subpage_newsevents.aspx?id=1493
Scroll down to the Animation section. Gee, I wonder if The Simpsons will win anything.
On Family Guy: I still get a kick out of it. Say what you will (i.e. they just use "references" or "jokes about stupid people") but Seth MacFarlane's timing is impeccable, way better than The Simpsons of recent times. I find The Simpsons' writers tend to labour their jokes and leave me with an "oh i see what you did there ho hum" feeling.
Then again, the WGA would probably disagree with me.
And on Futurama...
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117935453?categoryid=1050&cs=1&s=h&p=0
Family Guy is brainwashing otherwise perfectly intelligent people into thinking they're watching a quality product.
The only likely conclusion...
ALIEN INVASION SCHEME!
I don't people are saying it's "quality" as such. It's not something that's pushing the boundries of animation. But I do think Seth MacFarlane knows how to write and tell a good joke.
Let me put it this way: I think it's fresher and funnier than the majority of shows out there. Given that we have a zillion generic sitcoms out there (Joey/Two and a Half men/King of Queens/According to Jim) that are about as funny as a fractured fart, I'm happy to have Family Guy on the airwaves.
I say that "Family Guy" and "Futurama" are way better than the Simpsons right now.Ã, Family Guy has a huge slapstick content, and that's how it's always been.Ã, The Simpsons changed way too much, so it's not a classic anymore.Ã,Â
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About Futurama, it shouldn't have been cancelled in the first place, it was on my "favorites list" ever since it aired.Ã, Bring it back! BRING IT BACK!Ã, Ã,Â
If something goes on for too long people say "End it now!"
If something gets canceled people say "Bring it back!"
Futurama had a real good run and is still quite popular. Why can't people enjoy it for what it is and not wish it to go on for 16 seasons.
Eric is right. If futurama had run any longer, then it would have turned into the simpsons/flintstones fiasco. The thing that sucks is that it ran for so long but not many really noticed until the DVDs came out because (at least here in the USA) the show kept changing times or cancelled because of NFL games.
However, I would have liked to see some closure to the show, instead of ending it abruptly. Or at least not end it with that one episode where Fry makes a deal with the devil...
Another similar Fox show that has "jumped the shark" is That 70's Show. It should have ended last season, but instead the producers decided to go on without two of the main characters (Eric and Kelso). I would rather have the show end well that keep going since I'm not watching it anymore, anyway.
Quote from: Edmundo on Mon 09/01/2006 01:45:26
Eric is right. If futurama had run any longer, then it would have turned into the simpsons/flintstones fiasco.
It'll probably turn bad after a while, but right now I say give it a chance. It would be fun to see some closure like Edmundo said, but I would also like to see some more Futurama before it ends.
But... There was closure... To the only bit of story that needed any.
The last episode didn't hit me as an end to all of the Futurama series.Ã, In that episode, everything goes back to normal in the end,Ã, which leaves space for more stories.Ã, Ã,Â
Anyways, I won't be that dissapointed if they decide not to make the show anymore, it's good enought as it is, but I would be interrested in seeing more.
I must say I am a big fan of futurama and I am quite happy with the honorable end. And it does have a closure, it's quite obvious that Phillip finally gets the girl.
OR DOES HE... ?
On another note, there's still the comics, so Futurama hasn't actually ended.
Quote from: DGMacphee on Mon 09/01/2006 08:36:46
OR DOES HE... ?
Indeed. He has "got the girl" in several earlier episodes most notably around Valentine's day, not to mention having
married her in one episode, and each time it didn't work.
Anyway it's mainly a matter of jumping the shark. Shows shouldn't go on too long, and the Simpsons has been overdoing it a bit. I'm not sure what season they're actually showing here, but I've seen a couple of episodes last month that I didn't find at all interesting; and I recently bought the season-3 DVD and it's great.
I'm rather in doubt as to whether Futurama should have continued. Season five has a number of episodes that are among the best (e.g. the Farnsworth Parabox or the final ep) but also a number that were just rather bland (e.g. the cryogenic dog or the transgender bender). IMHO, of course.
As you said, a matter of opinions, because for me the cryogenic dog is the kind of emotional chapter that definitevelly gives Futurama more depth and appealing than the Simpsons. :)
Quote from: Radiant on Mon 09/01/2006 11:09:44
Quote from: DGMacphee on Mon 09/01/2006 08:36:46
OR DOES HE... ?
Indeed. He has "got the girl" in several earlier episodes most notably around Valentine's day, not to mention having married her in one episode, and each time it didn't work.
OR... DOES IT... ?
Quote from: Bluke4x4 on Sun 08/01/2006 21:22:05
Family Guy is nothing but references and jokes about injuries or stupid people. Like: Peter suddenly falling down the stairs, throwing up because he drank a bottle of Ipecac, and any episode ever, because they all have references. It's not even funny.
Besides to the absolutely correct comments by Darth, I have to add:
Stupid people are funny!
And there are not so many things about injuries as you say.
Well, I haven't seen the whole episode with the ipecac (2 years, see above), but I saw this very clip and I was horrified!
But these are just some exceptions, the show mostly rules!
Quote from: Bluke4x4 on Sun 08/01/2006 21:22:05
I hope it gets cancelled, and I hope you come to your senses before it does, Thomas.
Well, I'll never!
About the futurama end:
In the audio commentary, they said they made an ending in wich he, more or less, gets the girl, but they wasn't sure, if they really would cancel the show, so they kept the possibillity for more stories.
@DGMacphee: Don't say anything against King of Queens!
Quote from: Squinky on Sat 17/12/2005 19:54:53
Can't you download em' off the internet? Torrents?
Great idea!Ã, >:(
"Remaining time: 13 hours"
13 hours is a lot?
Are you kiddin'?!?
13 Hours is a day!!!
QuoteFuturama had a real good run and is still quite popular. Why can't people enjoy it for what it is and not wish it to go on for 16 seasons.
Because when it came out, i didn't understand any of the jokes. Atleast with the simpsons I get non-cable reruns of old episodes which i can now understand and appreciate.
The way family guy does references and transitions are terrible. Every once in a while they'll do something funny and get me to lagh, but then lose me with something else. They'll be in the middle of doing something, and then say something like "Oh no, what if ____ happens like in ____?!" and actually show what would happen, or what did happen--Only in a totally non funny way. Stupid people may be funny, but peter gryphon is no homer simpson. Peter gryphon is "Testicles. Vagina." Homer is "Extended warranty? How can i go wrong?" Homer says funny things, and his flashes of brilliance only make him funnier. The Simpsons is going wrong in a way that probably not alot of people see, but it's becoming more like family guy. People like The Simpsons for different reasons; they are going to say that the show's going in the crapper, but still watch the abomination known as Family Guy. Family Guy has plenty of people-being-hurt humor, alot more than you think. They have those overly-fast frames of people being hit, wine bottles being smashed, things crashing, ect., and it bothers me to no limit. Now, just don't let me get started on "American Dad"... ugh...
First of all, the name is spelled "Griffin".
And besides:
Peter is no Homer, but he was never supposed to be one.
And I can't see, how anybody can't laugh about the cutouts.
Unfortunately, I never saw "American Dad", since it was never aired in germany and I don't know where I can get DVDs, but I bet, you just can't handle the social critism.
Believe me, i have no problem with any kind of social criticism, and when i do most of the time i'm wrong anyway. But american dad is just... bad. The american dad isn't really an american dad. He works for the CIA, acts patriotic, and cares nothing about anything else. It makesme so I want to hit him with a hammer. Really hard. In the face. If it was criticizing an actual american dad, not some wannabe patriot, then sure, your point would work. But the show is really just... bad.
Well, I can't really judge it, since I never saw it, therefore I can't definitely claim that you are wrong in this point.
while American Dad is generally not that good in my opinion, a point of both it and Family Guy is that you can't like the characters. They are all heavily retarded, more so with American Dad.
Wanting to hit the main character with a hammer isn't a bad thing.
However, there are tons of shows about "actual american dads" this one is about this particular american dad... I don't know how you'd prefer him to act so he'd appear patriotic but the show is also not about being patriotic... or having a moral or anything, so...?
Ha! I just did a little research on the characters!
Klaus rulez!
I never said I wanted him to act patriotic... He does so already, but is unbelievably stupid about it. I guess what I mean is, Peter and Homer are both oafs, whereas Stan Smith is a moron.
Quote from: Thomas Voà Ÿ on Mon 09/01/2006 15:17:57
@DGMacphee: Don't say anything against King of Queens!
Too late. I already did.
Quote from: Lord Nipper on Mon 09/01/2006 17:41:31
I never said I wanted him to act patriotic... He does so already, but is unbelievably stupid about it. I guess what I mean is, Peter and Homer are both oafs, whereas Stan Smith is a moron.
Welcome to satire.