Do you know Secret Fawful (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2537)? If not, I can tell you, you're missing out! Secret Fawful is one of the best friends you could ever hope to have. He's a really great, totally awesome sort of dude who will bend over backwards to help you in (or out of) a pinch.
I met Secret Fawful 4 years ago on the TellTale Games forums, which I frequented during the releases of the Tales of Monkey Island episodes. He and I started talking when I asked around for people who would be interested in making I Wonder What Happens In I Wonder What Happens In Tales of Monkey Island: Chapter 5: Rise of the Pirate God: The Game! (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/1242/) a reality. He was one of the first to respond, and definitely one of the most eager.
We communicated a lot over MSN Messenger. I'm not really sure if people still even use that any more...it's all about Facebook and Skype nowadays I suppose. I tried on a few occasions to get him and Maxilyah (one of the voice actresses on the project) to become friends, but they never really hit it off. I haven't talked to her in a couple years myself. I wonder what ever happened to her...
Through the course of the past four years though, Secret Fawful and I have become quite close. I am an arrogant, prideful, hateful, ignorant, and completely insufferable person (as denoted by the fact that I can count my "irl" friends on one hand and not use my thumb), but Fawful got to know me, and he accepted me anyway. He's stood by my side through a lot over the past four years, and I've even confided secrets in him that I've told no one else. I guess he's lived up to the "Secret" part of his name.
I haven't been a good friend to Fawful. Not as good a friend as I should have been; not as good a friend as he was to me. I don't live with regrets, it's a decision I made some time ago, and I stick to it. I can't change the past. I'm not proud of the fact that I have hurt him though. It's something about myself that I am trying to change, to be less selfish toward him. I blame it on depression, I blame it on a million other things, but the fact of the matter is that you find time for the things and the people you care about. You make that time. I haven't given him the time that a friend of his caliber deserves. It's not too late though. There's always hope for change.
Secret Fawful is one of my best and dearest friends. I often make homoerotic sexual innuendo toward him in reference of that fact (and also in reference to the fact that we are both very secure in our heterosexuality, because nothing is manlier or straighter than saying you want to have sex with another man). If you don't know him, you should find a reason to become acquainted with him. You should shower him with your love and praise, because he has earned it.
As much as we piss each other off, our friendship has stood strong. Even at its worst, we never once thought to let go of that. Fawful's a good guy. Secret Fawful is the best.
That was interesting to read. I just hope that someday my friend would say something similar of this nature, here....someday!
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C'mon man, can't you get the hint? :P
Well everyone has got something in their personality that is flawed, I like to think that I accept people for who they are, there are exceptions of course.
@ Adeel, you want me to write a poem? I think the forum has been subjected to our bromance enough already! (laugh)
Yeah, man! AGS Bromance! This is what we try to promote on the BlueCupTools Podcast, and clearly here it is!
Grundy, you have just opened my eyes. Sort of like this. 8-0 But also sort of like A Clockwork Orange. But also sort of...different.
I love you. As a man.
Well, you can never have too much of bromance! ;)
And monkey, your intentions don't seem too good. You're loving too much! :P
Bit creepy to be honest...
But I'm glad you have a friend.
Friendship is only creepy to those who don't have any. :~(
I don't know if I'd agree that Secret Fawful is the best, per se. I mean, he's good. Really good, even. I don't think it's a stretch to say he's for sure in the top twenty: no one would argue that. But the best? I don't know.... That comes with a lot of baggage. The Secret Fawful I know is a pretty deferential guy. The kind of guy who'd go out of his way to help someone in his own quiet way. I don't know if he's into the whole pedestal and limelight scene, though. That doesn't really sound like him.
So I'm going to go out on a limb and assert that Secret Fawful is a pretty really good decent guy, and that the world would be a better place if there were carbon-copy clones of him populating the world's major cities and power hierarchies. Keep up the good work, SF! We're all counting on you.... ;)
In Portugal men have their testicles removed when they seek the company and friendship of other men.
In Soviet Russia, testicles remove you! (wtf)
Cool message imo.
Seriously though Monkey, why can't I be the best? You know you're tempted to let me in past that big wall of yours. Do it. Just do it. :-\
Quote from: Baron on Tue 22/10/2013 17:34:07
In Soviet Russia, testicles remove you! (wtf)
And we proudly carry furry moustaches honouring the great soviet mother.
Quote from: miguel on Tue 22/10/2013 13:02:30
In Portugal men have their testicles removed when they seek the company and friendship of other men.
Trust me, I gave up my testicles for Secret Fawful long, long ago. (As a matter of fact, I have him on record (read as: Facebook) admitting something to that effect.)
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Tue 22/10/2013 22:09:37
Seriously though Monkey, why can't I be the best? You know you're tempted to let me in past that big wall of yours. Do it. Just do it. :-\
You like Java and think it would be a good replacement for AGScript. I don't know that I can forgive you for that. :-X Oh, also I've seen some of your actual AGS production code. :sealed: It was literally so bad I abandoned that project.
Just because you're one of my nemeses doesn't mean we couldn't still be friends though. I wouldn't be opposed to that. I generally tend to like most Canadians on a personal basis.
Edit: Oh, and
@Baron: Yes. Best.
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Wed 23/10/2013 06:14:41
Oh, also I've seen some of your actual AGS production code. :sealed: It was literally so bad I abandoned that project.
I wasn't at all happy with it myself, so I don't blame you. I actually assumed that was the reason why you left that project; it's the second biggest reason why I slowly lost any drive for it. I think that project was what made me realize the severe limitations of AGS and pushed me to ditch it. With AGS, everything I do eventually becomes a giant mess and absolutely disgusting. I haven't yet felt that way when I use C# or Java; having everything properly modularized and just downright sexy and simple to look at.
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Wed 23/10/2013 06:14:41
You like Java and think it would be a good replacement for AGScript.
You must admit that Java is heaps better than AGS script. You know this to be true.
Edit: And woah.. why would my terrible scripting in an AGS project deter you from liking me? That's got me a little depressed... I might need a bowl of ice cream or chips. I hope I don't push into the next belt hole.
+1 for Java, I like it, too. Not sure whether it's suitable to replace AGSScript though. But I have actually come to really like JavaScript though, it's an amazing language. If somebody wants to replace AGSScript please consider using JavaScript instead :-D
re thread: awkward
I've been playing with Javascript as well (Tululoo), it is pretty cool and intuitive. I'm only a beginner but it feels really good to accomplish stuff using the language.
Ice Cream @ Ryan's house! C'mon guys, help me save him from himself through the means of sweeeeet sweeeeeeeeet goodness.
(It is chocolate ice cream, right? Or at least cookie dough? *Homer drool*....)
C'mon guys. Secret Fawful would take a slug of ice cream to save a friend in need. You need to follow his theoretical example and follow me skipping to Ryan's house. Tra-la-la, tra-la-la, tra-la-la-la-la-la-la..... :=
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Wed 23/10/2013 21:19:27I wasn't at all happy with it myself, so I don't blame you. I actually assumed that was the reason why you left that project; it's the second biggest reason why I slowly lost any drive for it. I think that project was what made me realize the severe limitations of AGS and pushed me to ditch it.
No, it wasn't anything to do with the "limitations of AGS". It was your complete lack of indentation. I literally got a headache any time I looked at your code, and it was bugged, so I was being asked to fix it. I would have corrected the indentation, but it was so many thousand lines...really I should have copied it into a different text editor that allows automatic format correction.
I mean, sure, there were other issues...but that was on you. It would have been a lot easier to code it correctly from the beginning. Don't take it too personally though, I'm a horrible coder myself.
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Wed 23/10/2013 21:19:27With AGS, everything I do eventually becomes a giant mess and absolutely disgusting. I haven't yet felt that way when I use C# or Java; having everything properly modularized and just downright sexy and simple to look at.
Java is a mess, half of the language constructs don't even make sense within terms of themselves, it's completely inconsistent as to how things are done...it's like a bad version of C#. I like C#.
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Wed 23/10/2013 21:19:27You must admit that Java is heaps better than AGS script. You know this to be true.
Actually I know this to be one of the most untrue statements I have ever read in the entirety of my life. There is
nothing about Java that makes that language an improvement over AGScript. Period.
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Wed 23/10/2013 21:19:27And woah.. why would my terrible scripting in an AGS project deter you from liking me? That's got me a little depressed... I might need a bowl of ice cream or chips. I hope I don't push into the next belt hole.
I could have dealt with your horrible scripting. I'm serious. I am just terrible, horribly bad at programming. I'm just better than you, and paired with your complete lack of indentation, I let myself get overwhelmed. Granted, I was also in a really bad state of mind at the time. Mental health disorders don't exactly make life as a genius any easier.
And like I said, we could still be friends outside of this. You'll still be my nemesis though. That's not contradictory.
Quote from: Baron on Thu 24/10/2013 02:30:33You need to follow his theoretical example and follow me skipping to Ryan's house. Tra-la-la, tra-la-la, tra-la-la-la-la-la-la..... :=
I forgot that everyone here is a Smurf. 8-)
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Thu 24/10/2013 03:05:58
No, it wasn't anything to do with the "limitations of AGS". It was your complete lack of indentation. I literally got a headache any time I looked at your code, and it was bugged, so I was being asked to fix it.
Hmmm. I'm generally quite strict with my indentation, but that was over 3 years now. I've certainly changed my ways since then. Perhaps one day I'll dig out that project and take a look to see at how much my future self disapproves.
The bugs, I certainly agree to the bugs.
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Thu 24/10/2013 03:05:58I am just terrible, horribly bad at programming. I'm just better than you [..]
A part of me is twitching at this statement, the competitive part of me and that young stubborn feeling of being superior; but I'm starting to grow past that. So yes, as much as I absolutely love programming, and filling my head with thoughts of it while I'm at work or away from the computer, I am indeed a very inexperienced, ignorant, self-taught, error-prone programmer. I definitely make for a better ideas-man than I could ever hope to be as a programmer. I'm kind of like Ben304 in how he has so many outstanding ideas, except I don't have the dedication, perseverance, nor the skill to pull it off on my own (my ideas aren't about adventure games though - but I
do have some VERY good ideas that I
believe would make for some lucrative commercial adventure games).
You wouldn't want to share those lucrative ideas, Ryan?:=
Wow. This is uh...this is super weird, man. I really appreciate the thought, though. Monkey did this because I'm going through a rough time right now, creatively and mentally.
But now I can't make the pretend serious topic "I have decided to murder Monkey_05_06 in cold blood. I need the help of Alan V Drake, Calin Leafshade, and Ryan Timothy." we had planned, man.
Calin, I know you're super butthurt/exhausted deep down about my Lua comments, but...no hard feelings, man. I'm butthurt you haven't made another McCarthy Chronicles.
But no, I appreciate Monkey a lot, in spite of being a dick and making horrendously offensive comments about women, homosexuals, ethnicities, and everything else under the sun which drives me CRAZY. I also recognize that he's basically living his life like Andy Kaufman, he's a genuinely sweet guy deep down, and he's done a lot for this community (except for accidentally destroying the AGS repository or whatever he did what the HELL, MONKEY) all because he wants to help other people be the "next Ron Gilbert" while watching us all burn. Even if we were screaming at each other just this morning, we're the bestest buddies ever. I still HATE MY LITTLE PONY, YOU BRONY WEIRDEE.
Super butthurt man.
Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Thu 24/10/2013 22:11:31
Super butthurt man.
Sounds like a title of an indie game, most likely a puzzle platformer.