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This is a tremendous story, but I gotta tell it because my head is spinning.Ã,  However, I have some certainty that I'm not the only one who's been through something like this.

Ooookay,

So there's this girl in my class.Ã,  She's twenty years old and has had two kids.Ã, 

We got to making small talk the other day, just casual.Ã,  She tells me about her kid that she just had with her boyfriend who is really controlling and psychopathic.

The weekend goes by, and I see here again on Monday.Ã,  We talk some more, and start to get a little more friendly.Ã,  She's really warming up to me, because nobody has ever really treated her very kindly, and she doesn't know what it means when a guy is just nice to her.Ã, 

Then she's like wanting to come see my house and bring her kid over so he can see my pets, so I'm like, okay whatever, and she does.Ã,  Before coming she makes this weird comment, "I gotta get permission first."Ã,  Okay, that was kind of weird since she lives independently.Ã,  As it turns out, her boyfriend makes her check in and out with him before she goes anywhere, and has to know how long she'll be gone, etc.

She comes over, stays awhile, and we start talking about her relationship to her boyfriend, and that she really should get out of it, and that she knows she should and stuff like that.Ã,  I was just trying to be understanding here, and listen.

Then she realizes she doesn't have a whole lot of gas in her car.Ã,  So I'm like, okay, I'll follow you a little ways back to your house and make sure you don't run out.Ã,  It was dark and she was in an area she didn't really know.Ã, 

I see her the next day, and she's like, "I couldn't sleep last night.Ã,  I kept thinking about you."

I couldn't really sleep either, but it was more out of concern that her boyfriend would beat the crap out of her for being out past her "curfew."

Turns out she was up at 5:00 in the morning writing me some poems.Ã,  And then after that, she starts giving me poem after poem, and we're like passing notes, and I'm really confused, but for some reason I'm sort of liking this.

Over the next couple of days, we spend time after school together, talking and stuff.Ã,  I'm still liking it, and she is REALLY liking it, and by this time she's convinced that we're soulmates and that we're destined to be together.Ã,  Okay, I'm not that sure at this point.Ã,  After discussing this with a close friend of mine who's been through this kind of situation before, he says to end it immediately before it gets too far.

So the day after that I go to school with every intention of breaking this thing off immediately, but don't.Ã,  Instead I get drawn into it a little further.Ã,  I mean, we seemed to click together well, and we spent that evening together talking.Ã, 

That night, the reality comes into focus:Ã,  She's 20, has two kids, we come from completely different backgrounds, and I'm not ready to get involved with somebody who has two kids and an insanely controlling boyfriend.Ã,  There is no sane reason to pursue this "romance" that has sprung up over a period of about a week and is based on nothing but emotion and no concrete understanding, with her still under the control of her crazy boyfriend who she wants to get away from soon.

The next day (today) I end it.Ã,  She gets upset, but isn't really crying.Ã,  She doesn't say a whole lot.Ã,  Then she asks to leave early and takes off.Ã,  I feel bad, but know that I did the right thing.

Now, she just called me up a minute ago and wanted to know if she could come over to "hang out."Ã,  She also wanted to bring a friend of hers over that I just barely met.Ã,  That'd be pretty akward, and I suggested that we wait a few days and level ourselves out before getting together again.Ã,  I said, okay, I'll see you at school.Ã,  Then she's like, "I don't know if I'll be there."

Now she's probably thinking that it'd be too painful to sit in the same classroom with me.Ã,  Hopefully she's not going to drop her education because of an infatuation.

Anyway, so that's what has happened to me the past week.Ã,  Now I'm wondering whether or not I should try to be a friend to her, or if I should try to distance myself from her, or what.Ã,  Is she going to become obsessive and call me constantly, and come over to my house all the time?Ã, 

Will her jealous boyfriend beat her up for this?Ã,  Will he beat me up?Ã,  Will he come to my house drunk and stoned and tear up my car, property, and ME?

This whole thing is crazy, and all I can say is I'm glad it's come to a halt now, and not later.Ã,  I just hope it goes away quickly and quietly.Ã, 

Just tell her how you feel, not much else you can do.

Well, I think you did the right thing to call it off sooner than later.
Sounds like an awkward situation, and she was a bit "obsessive" and seeming to rush things for some romantic relationship with you, where you were trying to show some friendship.

Unfortunately, the way it often works in life is that some people don't get the concept that people of opposite sexes can be friends without it being intimate or romantic.

You can simply explain to her you were extending some friendship, but you were not looking to be involved in a romantic / intimate relationship. But perhaps it's now best to just keep your distance.  Seems she's got some issues to deal with, has a lack of confidence, lack of self-esteem and she's a bit unstable. Perhaps what she really needs she needs is a counselor.  It's not your fault if she decides to not come to school or whatever.

Play it cool. Good luck.

Quote
That night, the reality comes into focus:  She's 20, has two kids, we come from completely different backgrounds, and I'm not ready to get involved with somebody who has two kids and an insanely controlling boyfriend.  There is no sane reason to pursue this "romance" that has sprung up over a period of about a week and is based on nothing but emotion and no concrete understanding, with her still under the control of her crazy boyfriend who she wants to get away from soon.

Yes, this is a recipe for disaster.  Never get involved with someone already involved.

QuoteThe next day (today) I end it.  She gets upset, but isn't really crying.  She doesn't say a whole lot.  Then she asks to leave early and takes off.  I feel bad, but know that I did the right thing.

This is very wise, particularly since you don't really 'know' her boyfriend or the whole truth, just what she's told you.  I was in a relationship where the girl was manufacturing sob stories for sympathy, so take such things with a grain of salt until/unless you can verify it by going right to the source.

I've had problems similar to this one. I too felt that despite the fact I wasn't interested any more, I still felt the need to help. In reality it's just a cry for attention. I know some people say that can't get out of abusive relationships, but they can. The best thing is to be nice but steer clear of any time outside of classes. If you don't see her for a few days, check in and see how her schooling is going. Don't cut her off. Be a friendly aquentance, not a friend.

And most of all, don't think about it.

Besides, a lot of the time they miss the abuser and go back to them.

I guess the larger part of why you're posting is to gain affirmation that you acted correctly in an awkward situation.

If so, I'm happy to give it. From what you say, you took the only responsible course of action.

I was reading through expecting to rapidly dash off a reply telling you to . . . do exactly what I read later you did.  It's nice that you're concerned for her current well being post-whateverthehellthiswas, but it seems best for her, you, and the kids.  Try not to regret it taking as long as it did, after all you're only human and it can take awhile for the left brain to kick in.  I speak from a comparatively hyperbolic relationship experience.  Thankfully, you're smarter than I was.

     The only question I have is how do you "REALLY" feel about her? I mean putting aside the boyfriend.......

Quote from: thewalrus on Fri 13/10/2006 15:36:18
Ã,  Ã,  Ã, The only question I have is how do you "REALLY" feel about her? I mean putting aside the boyfriend.......

How do I feel about her?  Well, I have to admit, I was feeling attracted to her.  One half of me wanted to continue the "relationship."  The other half was like, "Dude, wake up!  You just turned 18, you gotta keep a clear head to get your education, go to college, and pursue your career.  You aren't ready to jump into a relationship with somebody who is already so far into her life."

I now know I did the right thing.  I just hope I know how to deal with her from now on.  I do feel sorry for her.  But I don't want either one of us to get the wrong idea again.

QuoteThe other half was like, "Dude, wake up!Ã,  You just turned 18, you gotta keep a clear head to get your education, go to college, and pursue your career.Ã,  You aren't ready to jump into a relationship with somebody who is already so far into her life."

I thought that goes like "Dude, you're 18. Now's the chance of your lifetime to get some mature ass. Shag her like never before!"

At least that's how it goes with me, but I guess I'm just a normal teen. oh, and not 18 anymore.

     Well then all things considered you did do the right thing.....

Update:

Okay, she just showed up at my house about five minutes ago.  I saw her pull in, and then a second later she knocks on the door.  I decided not to answer.  Then she rings the bell.  I still don't answer.  Then she hangs around for about five minutes more and drives off.

Now, the phone just rang and it was her saying she was just by my place and wants me to call her back.  Now what?   ???

Dance for joy

Call her, seriously, see what she wants.

EDIT: Oh, and don't tell her you were home, say that you were for example taking a walk.

Out of curiousity, what "background" is she from? (since you mentioned your background is different from hers)

The way you describe her, she seems:

- Very quick to rush into a romantic relationship and develop an almost obsessive passion towards someone. No doubt she had similar feelings for her current boyfriend at some point in the past, which either made her oblivious to his psycho-nature or made her see his negative qualities as a challenge to overcome, rather than a warning sign to stay away.

and

- Prone to be in destructive relationships. If she has a kid from this controlling guy, she must have been around him for quite some time. (just because she says she wants out doesn't mean she'll be able to) Her way of relating with guys seems to be pretty damaged and self-destructive.

As Barbarian noted, lots of red flags there. Obviously strong lack of self-esteem. While you mentioned you weren't ready for a serious relationship, she may be even less ready for a healthy relationship. Possible retaliations from the abusive boyfriend aside, her patterns of relating would possibly ruin a romantic involvement for you. Either she'd move her passion to someone else at some point (just like she did with you) or she'd become frustrated because you can't return the near limitless affection in the expected quantities.

If you want to help her, talk to her, but keep your distance. Find out what you can about what she wants and about herself. I personally wouldn't be surprised if she had some childhood trauma (like abusive parent(s)) that caused her to develop what seems to be a serious case of either relationship addiction or battered wife syndrom. Try to get her to find help in the form of a counsillor...she sounds like she needs mental help more than another relationship to overfocus on.

Quote from: Erpy on Fri 13/10/2006 21:41:08
Out of curiousity, what "background" is she from? (since you mentioned your background is different from hers)

She says she is from an abusive, broken, homeless past.Ã,  The way she acts that's either very true, or she's just a great actor.

BTW, I decided not to call her back.  I told her last night on the phone I'd see her Monday, and that's exactly what I'm gonna do.

What to do... what to do. It's quite easy!

Sit down with her. And seriously ask what does she want? Where does she want to go? End up?

Let her explain her vision and acts. Maybe she hasn't even thinked about it seriously.
How does she imagine future of hers, yours and you two (er- three... er-five) together?

I'm quite sure that after giving it some thought, she realizes that there couldn't be any.
Kids need their dad, after all.

Increator, been there done that.Ã,  Ã, She says she invisions OUR future.Ã,  Us, together.Ã,  Forever and ever.Ã,  It's destiny.Ã,  She's been sent to me by God himself.Ã, 

"Hi Loraine, I am your density."

Back when I thought we were just being friends, I said that she was welcome to come over or call on the phone if she ever needed to talk.Ã,  But now I'm not sure how to tell her that she's welcome AS LONG as it has nothing to do with trying to make me her lifemate.

QuoteShe says she is from an abusive, broken, homeless past.  The way she acts that's either very true, or she's just a great actor.

[rant]No woman interested in you would play a charade like this on you because of its obvious ineffectiveness. A traumatic childhood would certainly explain her (co)dependent behavior set and belief that true "love" is the only requirement to overcome any and all practical obstacles. Lots of women who grew up in abusive homes grow to use relationships as an escape mechanism...first to get out of their parental home and then to forget their emotional issues. The fact she's only 20 and has 2 kids already would suggest she did just that in the past. (and still is now)

If you're gonna hang around her as a friend/acquaintance, you might get the opportunity at some point to suggest professional help such as a counsillor or peer support group to her. If she's not ready to accept the fact she's lugging a heavy load of emotional baggage around and needs help to deal with it, the only thing you can do is let her slip to that all-time-low point where she's forced to get help.

I guess you could mention to her that her approach intimidates you.

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Quote from: Raggit on Fri 13/10/2006 01:31:45
by this time she's convinced that we're soulmates and that we're destined to be together.  Okay, I'm not that sure at this point.  After discussing this with a close friend of mine who's been through this kind of situation before, he says to end it immediately before it gets too far.

I can see why you're not sure about things at that point. I mean, it doesn't sound like you both know each other well (only a couple of weeks, right?) and already she's decided you're her soulmate. It doesn't make sense. It'd be like you going up to someone you've only known for a few weeks and saying, "I want to spend the rest of my life with you." You can't know that much about a person in only a couple of weeks to make that kind of judgement (though some people do and it works out beautifully, but on the whole it doesn't). You can be attracted to them, sure, but I think it's a total misjudgement to liken such an attraction to "This person is my soulmate."

It's obvious why she's with her current abusive boyfriend. She sounds like the sort of person who'll jump into things without REALLY getting to know someone on any level. Not a lot of good foundation in her current relationship and not a lot in what the two of you currently have either. I tend to think of relationships as something you build emotionally over time and it sounds like she's the sort of person who'll skip all that and go straight to the end part where it's all lovey-dovey. But doing so is nonsense.

I think you are right to not want anything other than maybe a platonic relationship with this girl.

However, I do think honesty is key here. And LGM pretty much nailed it. You have to be direct and honest with her about this. And it sounds like you want to be honest cause you said, "I don't want either one of us to get the wrong idea again."

I can understand why you didn't want to answer the doorbell when she showed up. But I think it's avoiding the issue. You really do need to be direct in how you feel and your next meeting with her is a good opportunity to do so. Obviously, you don't want to be harsh because she's had a pretty heavy background and you don't want to compound that, but what you do want to do is help her relate to how you're feeling about the whole thing, which sounds to me that you're uncomfortable about it.

Tell her exactly that. Tell her that you're feeling uncomfortable about the whole soulmate thing. Tell her you both can be friends and you'll be supportive when she needs a friend (keyword: friend), but you don't see things developing any further than that. And pursuing it makes you feel uncomfortable too.

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Woops Chicky, really didn't read enough my original post.   :)

This has nothing to do with on-line dating.  This girl is in the same classroom with me everyday at school. 

Quotewhich either made her oblivious to his psycho-nature or made her see his negative qualities as a challenge to overcome

QuoteIt's obvious why she's with her current abusive boyfriend.

It's amusing just how many of you immediately accept she has an abusive boyfriend with absolutely no proof.  Wake up call:  Women lie when they want to.  With her already questionable behavior, how can anything she says be believed without evidence?  The answer is, it can't. 

My advice stands:  Get some proof to back up her claims if you are that interested in a future with her.  If not, tell her to leave you alone and move on.  The last thing you need is to get mixed up with someone who fabricates events for sympathy, trust me.  End of line.

Quote from: ProgZmax on Sat 14/10/2006 18:55:22

Quotewhich either made her oblivious to his psycho-nature or made her see his negative qualities as a challenge to overcome

QuoteIt's obvious why she's with her current abusive boyfriend.

It's amusing just how many of you immediately accept she has an abusive boyfriend with absolutely no proof.Ã,  Wake up call:Ã,  Women lie when they want to.Ã,  With her already questionable behavior, how can anything she says be believed without evidence?Ã,  The answer is, it can't.Ã, 

My advice stands:Ã,  Get some proof to back up her claims if you are that interested in a future with her.Ã,  If not, tell her to leave you alone and move on.Ã,  The last thing you need is to get mixed up with someone who fabricates events for sympathy, trust me.Ã,  End of line.

ProgZmax, I might be a little more skepticle of her claims too, except that the first evening she was over at my house, her boyfriend called demanding to know if she was here or not.  That pretty much answered my question.  I also met this guy, but only once.  He wasn't overly friendly.  But I didn't talk to him enough to make a judgement. 

(Probably should've mentioned this stuff if my original post.)

QuoteProgZmax, I might be a little more skepticle of her claims too, except that the first evening she was over at my house, her boyfriend called demanding to know if she was here or not.

If she's developed such a close attachment to you in a short time who's to say she hasn't done this before?  If you were her husband wouldn't you be leery at all of her visiting strange men you didn't know at their house?

ProgZmax,

Exactly.  That's why I'm not wanting to get involved any further.

Quote from: Raggit on Sat 14/10/2006 16:02:18
Woops Chicky, really didn't read enough my original post.   :)

This has nothing to do with on-line dating.  This girl is in the same classroom with me everyday at school. 

Haha, i really need to get more sleep.

I just saw the 'instant girlfriend' title and thought instant messenger, what with us all being geeks and that.

do carry on :P

Go with your gut, Raggit.  We tend to ignore the initial warnings and pay for it later.

I say that sometimes subtle messages do nto carry across the meaning.

I also believe that being friends with someone who has the hots for you is really really difficult (and the other way of course).

just stay completely clear! Cut all contact! Every contact! Other wise she may never get the message!

Tell her you posted about her as a problem on an intenet forum, that's bound to scare her off. In fact, print out the thread for her so she can see for herself...

yeah, like "hey, you're not the only freak here! I think we might have a future together."

The really scary thing is this 'you are my destiny' aspect. The kids I could take or leave, the abusive or not boyfriend would definately have to go, but the psycho God sent you romance I would never be able to deal with. I think that was the best clue you had to get the hell outta dodge. And you're not out of there yet, play it cool.

I couldn't agree more.

Although I would also be skeptical about the fact she has 2 children at the age of 20...

I mean, two children suggests that she actually put some thought into having children. It wasn't just one small accident. She started a family. And she started a family with a guy who is apparently abusive. How young must she have been when she first concieved? And now she's obsessing over you.

I kind of get the picture that she's slightly unhinged.

You could say the only way you would have a relationship with her is if it is an open relationship, as you are a person who believes that we are all animals and our animal instinct shouldn't be repressed by the prudes who think that manogomy is right.

Most women will be turned off and probably deeply insulted by that. Although from the sound of it, this girl might not. You could have this girl in your bed with the click of your fingers. Just sleep with her and then totally avoid her. If she keeps harassing you take out a restraining order on her.

You old romantic, Layabout...

The advice certainly seems less open-minded and more on the misogynistic side of things.  Been burnt much?

Tell her you lost your penis in a camel riding expedition and therefore feel no attraction for anyone anymore.

I also like the phrase "instant girlfriend". Sounds like something you put in the microwave for 30 seconds. DING! INSTANT GIRLFRIEND!

Quote from: Layabout on Mon 16/10/2006 14:35:48
You could have this girl in your bed with the click of your fingers. Just sleep with her and then totally avoid her. If she keeps harassing you take out a restraining order on her.

Yeah, that'd work real good!Ã,  Ã, :D

If she wanted to cuddle afterwards I'd have to tell her I couldn't because I gotta go throw the condom away and get a restraining order.Ã, 

Man, I was thinking of things you could say that weren't that, and I suddenly remembered that old nursery rhyme from my childhood...

Ladybird, Ladybird, run away home!
Your house is on fire,
And your children all gone!


Man that's grim.

Anyway you could say something like that to her.

Well,

Today's the day.  I haven't got a clue if I'll see her or not.  If I talk to her at all, it's gonna be real casual. 

If she wants to talk about "us" again, I'll just tell her what I already told her:  It's not realistic.  She's too far ahead of me in her life, and she needs somebody who is more where she is at. 

Wish me luck!  I'll update y'all afterwards.

Quote from: DGMacphee on Mon 16/10/2006 15:36:09
Tell her you lost your penis in a camel riding expedition and therefore feel no attraction for anyone anymore.

While we wait here... DG, it's not all in the penis, one can still feel attraction to someone without it. After all, the hormons come from the part I'm too lazy to look the English word for.

Quote from: Tuomas on Mon 16/10/2006 19:33:28

Quote from: DGMacphee on Mon 16/10/2006 15:36:09
Tell her you lost your penis in a camel riding expedition and therefore feel no attraction for anyone anymore.

While we wait here... DG, it's not all in the penis, one can still feel attraction to someone without it. After all, the hormons come from the part I'm too lazy to look the English word for.

I believe the word(s) you're looking for are "testicles," "nuts," "balls," "baby-makers," and or "nads."


Uhhh... so she was there today.  And she was in a fantastic mood.  We talked CASUALLY, and she broke up with her boyfriend over the weekend!  So that probably explains the good mood.  She was still flirting with me, but I reminded her that I just wanna be FRIENDS.

Now, hopefully, her boyfriend will leave her alone.

Quote from: Raggit on Mon 16/10/2006 23:42:07
Now, hopefully, her boyfriend will leave her alone.

Hopefully for who?

Cause you sound (read) like you want her, but was afraid of the boyfriend.

Either way through the net, there's little you can get, or give about this kind of situation. :) You will do as you feel in the end... :)

Hopefully for her.  And then, later on, if things change between us, hopefully for both of us.

When I was 19, I also had a fling with a 23 year old gal with 3 kids. It lasted one summer and got "marriage-minded" serious. But I, like yourself, cut it off before getting laid. She was broken, but she bounced right back and got pregnant by some other dude after going out with two or three guys after me in a span of a few months.

Whew! Talk about getting lucky....  I really loved her, I thought, but these were the deciding factors:
1) I was 19 and she was 23.
2) She wasn't "completely" divorced yet. (Also battered by husband.)
3) 3 kids!
4) She said she got pregnant easily. Yikes!
5) Every friend and family member was against this relationship.

I made the right choice and so did you Raggit!
 

I sorta forgot about this thread.Ã,  But thanks, rharpe!

She wants to know if we could be more than friends someday.Ã,  I said I had no idea.Ã,  But probably not.Ã, 

I hope she won't go back to her boyfriend.Ã,  She said if he can "prove" himself to her, she will.Ã, 

Anyway, she hasn't pursued me anymore about a relationship, so maybe breaking up with her boyfriend was all she really needed.

My bet is that you're freaking out and hallucinating, and now that you've destroyed a perfectly good partnership, you feel better than ever while they're the ones suffering. ;)

Quote from: Tuomas on Mon 16/10/2006 19:33:28

Quote from: DGMacphee on Mon 16/10/2006 15:36:09
Tell her you lost your penis in a camel riding expedition and therefore feel no attraction for anyone anymore.

While we wait here... DG, it's not all in the penis, one can still feel attraction to someone without it. After all, the hormons come from the part I'm too lazy to look the English word for.

I'm glad you pointed this out to me because my advice to Raggit was super-duper deadly serious (especially the camel riding expedition part) and now he won't take such dodgy advice because it's proven to be false by you. Whew!

Too late DG...  I already told her that.  Personally, I expected it to work better than it did.   ;)

Dammit, didn't you hear what Tuomas said! The advice I gave was filled with lies. Now when she consults a medical textbook on male reproductive organs, she'll think you're a liar. And then she won't know what the fuck to believe about your camel riding exploits.

You should watch it a bit DG, I won't be here everytime correcting your stupid sentences. More people might get hurt ::) :P

Not to worry DG, if she happens to discover that attraction originates from somewhere else other than the penis, I'll simply tell her that I would only want a physical relationship, and since I've no penis, I don't want anything to do with her. 

Isn't it amazing how things work themselves out in the end?

What about your camel riding expedition?

To be honest, I think a girl would be a bit dubious about a camel riding expedition. After all, it insinuates sexual encounters with animals, which is beastiality. It's better for him to just cut to the chase and tell her that he would prefer to have sexual intercourse with a camel (or a donkey) than to make sex with her. Just a though. When it comes to women, it's better being honest and say you prefer beastiality than 'normal' sex with people. Whatever normal is. It's not like bessie the cow would ever cry rape like some women i know...

MAJOR update:

She wasn't there today. 

However, her boyfriend did come to visit me in class.  Teacher comes in and is like, "Somebody is here to see you."

Sure enough, it's him.  He gets all up in my face telling me about all this crap a friend told him that was supposedly going on between me and the girl who is pursuing me.  It was true stuff, but totally out of context, such as passing notes back and fourth.  That did indeed happen, but not with me being receptive, etc.

I did manage to get my side of the story out as quickly as possible, saying that it was HER that was pursuing me, that I wasn't at all interested in being with her, and that she's all his if he wants her.

I though when this moment came, I'd be pissing my pants.  On the contrary, it wasn't scary at all.  After all, he had to stand straight up just to look down on me, so it's not like he's got any real advantage in strength, etc.

I hope he's satisfied now.  Maybe this is all done now, as soon as I get a chance to tell her I just can't be around her outside of class anymore. 

all i can say is what a mess

Sinsins thought

    Maybe she's silently crying for help ( note good song name for all you emos out there ) and because you seemed like you listened she has become somewhat attached to you and maybe because you did not answer the door she has gone awol erm seems right i have had a couple of encounters like this but i do feel that there is more to this story than what you put     if not shes a freekin phsyco

/me starts composing

Hmm, I don't have much advice on this, but please keep us updated, this is really interesting. You could even write a book about it should it go on that long. Hehe, my bet is the girl will come denying all or appologising the next day or the day after that.

being a booky  im gonna lay down some prices here

She comes round with her son to try and hide from the dwarven boyfriend    7-1
She comes round apologising                                                                           evs
The boyfriend attempts to punch raggit                                                           4-1
All agser turning up at her house to see if they can get an easy lay out of her   500-1
Girl runs in front of bus                                                                                     9-1
Girl turns nasty and tells boyfriend that you have sexually assalted her         7-2
Everything blows over                                                                                     11-1

And for all you double seekers                                     

Girl leaves boyfriend with kid and runs off to hawai  after number 2               5-1

Happy betting folks

WHOA!!1
Mercury is in retrograde right now- so I wouldn't make any BIG decisions for a month or so.

What are your Zodiac signs (and rising signs)?Ã,  ??? You must find out if the stars find you compatible.

Umm... my sign is Libra.Ã,  I don't follow a horoscope or Zodiac thingy.Ã, 

BTW, he's manipulating her into getting back together.

As a Libra you want a partner- to be in a relationship- and you are a flirt- but you despise conflict.

This situation is bad in every way.Ã,  Run- don't walk away.Ã,  Be polite in class- but quickly distance yourself from the mess.Ã,  Go out and have some fun.Ã,  And don't make any major changes in your life until the end of November.

Also, as a Libra, you will going on a long trip next April, but as there are 500 million Librans worldwide, make sure you book early.  ;)

Now you may find it inconciveable
or at the very least a bit unlikely, that the relative position
of the planets and the stars could have a special deep significance
or meaning that exclusively applies to only you,

But let me give you my assurance that these forcasts and predictions,
are all based on solid scientific documented evidence,
so you would have to be some kind of moron not to realize
that every single one of them is absoultely true.

-- Weird Al Yankovic



(oh yes, Libra? A big promotion is just around the corner, for someone much more talented than you! Laughter is the very best medicine, remember that when your appendix bursts next week)

FieryPhoenix, I am a taurus, what does that say for me not buying the astrology crap?

Helm, Tauruses are due to meet a tall, dark stranger. However, as there may not be enough tall, dark, strangers to go round the 500 million plus Tauri, you may find it acceptable to meet a stranger who is exceptionally tall, but a bit pale. Or a stranger who is really very dark but a bit on the short side. Or someone who is neither tall nor dark but is particularly strange...

That's ok, for tall dark stranger, I'll just (http://www.locustleaves.com/1s.png) dream (http://www.locustleaves.com/2s.png) this (http://www.locustleaves.com/3s.png) dream (http://www.locustleaves.com/4s.png) again (http://www.locustleaves.com/5s.png).

Whaha! Thanks folks for this great read! I really enjoyed this true-based story.
Especially the Instant magnetron girlfriend! Give me one of those!

Well, I can see that I pretty much somehow miss this forum, because of these bunch of topics with a good sense of humor :p

thanks for the laugh...

and to not go 100% offtopic:

When a girl introduces herself to me I say: "Get out of my sight! You are so ugly that my eyes hurt!" ... so when I girl passes this test, she's emotionally strong enough for me :p


ps: I do have a girlfriend now :) and she's NOT ugly! :P

Bet she hates you though deep inside... ;)

yes, tuomas, we decided to base our relationship on hate ;) Most end with it, we grow slowly to more and more love :p

Quote from: Helm on Wed 01/11/2006 11:40:15
FieryPhoenix, I am a taurus, what does that say for me not buying the astrology crap?

As a Taurus I would expect you not to buy in- Fiery Phoenix is a Pisces and who likes to do a bit of creative writing.Ã, 

Mercury is in retrograde- I wish I could use this as an excuse for all my screw-ups lately- but I think my life is really guided by my laziness, apathy, sarcasm, and the concussion I had a few months ago.

Pura Vida

Quote from: Raggit on Fri 13/10/2006 01:31:45


She's twenty years old and has had two kids.Ã, 

Im replying to this part of the quote without having read the rest of the post. I can tell you just from reading that sentence about the situation... dont date her, or ANY other chick in that situation with kids and that young. Thats based off of watching it happen to friends. Now Ill read the rest of the post :p.

Helm I am unsure about the whole astrology thing but its pretty amazing that you are an amazing artist and a taurus.... just like my dad. Supposedly you Taurus people are good at left brain activities like art.


BTW Raggit there are 3 options to your situation.

1. Break it off.
2. Go out with her.
3. Tag' it and Bag' it.

Helm do you go to an art school?  :o

Shitar,

It is already broken off.  We're just friends now, and she's totally cool.  Except that she says she's been forced to get back together with her boyfriend. 

That's her problem now.

Helm:

Nice one :) Thanks for sharing

IMO,you did a good thing leaving her.she sounds like a drama queen.good luck my friend,i'm sure,you'll find a nicer,better looking girl without all that excess drama & baggage.still,I feel bad for the kids,hope they don't get too confused over all this.