I was just intrested in knowing who you think was the best adv company ever...
why you enjoyed that style of game and you best and favourite game by the company.
Why you dont like the others...
Feel free to list all thoughts relating..
Company - Lucas Arts + Sierra
FAV Game/s - Indiana jones Series :) luv it
- Monkey Island series
- Police Quest
- Quest for GLORY
Reason : The Indi games are legend they had great graphics good sound and awesome storylines... Dont get me started on the puzzles.. I think its the first game where you had multiple solutions...
Monkey island was humour and style all in one little package.. love it.
The sci versus the scumm engine.
I did love sierra when i was younger. I love the text input into the games they made puzzles harder. we saw this come back in larrys love cruise game. that you had point and click and then text! i was so proud.. Then sierra sold out.
They had some of the most challenging games. some faded badly and wehn they got rid of the original crew... sad.
They sold out! I hate them now!
Lucas arts well they peed me off because they stopped with adv design stop production on ft2 and snm2 WHY!
Bussiness sense.. ok ok numbers always win. Market demand. Never the less. Both engines have awesome capability and really no different when it comes down to it.
I really cant choose both companies had awesome succes with there different engines and equally challenging games.
Lucas arts, because I grew up with DOTT. Man, I used to play that game for months and still never found the super-battery plans. But then, suddenly, I found them. :o
::) That probably wasn't called for. (i was talking about a guest post that was removed, not HillBilly's post)
I'm a Sierra person. I was first introduced to adventure games by Kings Quest 1 when i was a kid, and my dad kept buying everyone after that for me, until i was able to purchase them myself.
When i first played KQ1 on the Tandy 1000, i knew that adventure games really meant something to me. I couldn't believe i could control a character onscreen using a joystick. I will always have fond memories of the Kings Quest Series.
Quote from: Dark of Night on Tue 05/04/2005 01:48:26
::) That probably wasn't called for.
I'm a Sierra person.Ã, I was first introduced to adventure games by Kings Quest 1 when i was a kid, and my dad kept buying everyone after that for me, until i was able to purchase them myself.
When i first played KQ1 on the Tandy 1000, i knew that adventure games really meant something to me.Ã, I couldn't believe i could control a character onscreen using a joystick.Ã, I will always have fond memories of the Kings Quest Series.
Same here. Sierra will always be the best in my books. They basicly rounded their company just for adventure games, unlike lucas arts which are too busy with more strwars titles.
there were alternative solutions to puzzles for years before Indy 4. Mainly in interactive fiction games by magnetic scrolls and infocom etc.
I don't have a favourite company, but it seems I enjoy a few more sierra games more than the lec games. And plus, I never liked Monkey Island, Manic Mansion/DOTT or Sam and Max a lot.
Both Sierra and LucasArts games are cool in their own ways, but I'd have to say I'm in the Sierra camp as well. I remember going to friend's houses for sleepovers when I was ten and we'd play the space quest 2 or 3 of king's quest 3 all night - or we'd sneak into my my one friend's dad's computer room and play the leisure suit larry series! :o lol
That said, Full Throttle totally changed the way I looked at adventure games. It was so tough (style-wise, not playability-wise) compared to the classic sierra titles!
I honest to god can't say I like Lucasarts or Sierra better than the other. Monkey Island is probably what I'd consider to be the grestest adventure game of all time (and among best games of all time) but yes... SO many fond memories of Quest for Glory and King's quest. I remember having played Quest for Glory 1 (or Hero's quest as I called it) I went to a friend's house and he had Quest for Glory 2. It was, at that time, the most enchanting game I had ever played and I was so, so jealous I didn't have it myself. when I finally got the game years later, it was like some fantastic dream.
That being said, the first 2 Monkey Island games, Indiana Jones... so many Lucasarts games just DEFINE adventure gaming for me. I love point and click/text parsers equally, I love the RPG elements/linear story styles equally... just in different ways.
Ahh, and Leisure Suit Larry. The fun of simply answering those questions at the start of the game, and discovering the naughty things you could do, and how many ways you could die. Space Quest 4 was another big milestone for me, I adored that game (space age shopping malls should be in a LOT more games).
I tend to play more Sierra games because I think the puzzles are more difficult, and thus are more mentally rewarding (Plus, there are always a lot of things to fall off of), But Lucasarts games generaly had more interesting dialog.
QuoteLucas arts well they peed me off because they stopped with adv design stop production on ft2 and snm2 WHY!
This may have been said before..but considering the quality of Lucasart's later adventure games(MI4)..they were probably doing the genre a HUGE favor.
I'm a Sierra person. I only recently started playing LucasArts games. I think every Sierra game that I've started, I've finished (except SQIII, because I've never been able to beat the arcade game at the end). However, I just can't bring myself to WANT to finish some LA games.
It's probably just my own perception, because I grew up with Sierra games, but that's how the cookie currently crumbles.
Speaking of SQ3 - did anyone honestly build the spaceship at the beginning and escape the junk freightor WITHOUT getting a hint here and there on how to do it??
I remember being stuck in the junk frieghtor for about a year before I finally wrote to Sierra and asked them for a clue!
Oh yes sq3 wow wat an adventure. Yeah was stuck in that place for awhile!!!
Honestly I think all of us grew up with sierra. They were probably the first company? Pioneers of the genre.
Kings quest never really gripped me at all... Altough all the other sierra games did. Police quest was king!
I kind of want to know what you guys prefer cause I like the idea of the text input into the adventure series for
as mentioned it does make the game harder.
Lucas style is just point and click altough they manage to make some puzzles difficult.
monkey island 4 was ok. I enjoyed it. Some fun scenes I just feel that it was a bit of a let down. :-\
So what do you guys think text is dead?
I'd have to say LucasArts. When I was younger the only available games were things like FoA (this was 1995 after all) so I grew with those. Spent ages in Algiers trying to convince Sophia to be a knife throwers assistant. I actually said to my brother "I need to PUSH her into it" about a trillion times before I worked it out.
I'd like to love Sierra. I took several stabs at SQ1, then gave up and tried the vga version, but was slowed down by bugs and copy preotection. I really should take another whack at them, but for now, the comedy themed adventures of LEC get my vote.
I've grown up with Sierra classics such as the King's Quest and Space Quest series... heck, I probably learned to type before I learned to walk. The first adventure game I played when I was a wee lassie, and probably my most favourite one of them all, is that underrated Sierra title called The Conquests of the Longbow, a Robin Hood game.
I've always found Sierra games a bit more entertaining than LucasArts ones, but then again, I never completely finished a LucasArts game anyway. I'm getting close to finishing Monkey Island 1, though, I swear!
Hmmmm... I really couldn't decide between Sierra and Lucas Arts (I just LOVE Monkey Island 1 and 2, but there's Phantasmagoria and stuff on the other side). What about the great games by other companies?
Lure Of The Temptress (Revolution)
Eric The Unready (Legend)
The Longest Journey (FunCom)
etc.
Also, Sierra and Lucas Arts made some of the worst adventures ever, like Monkey Island 4 and Larry 5 and 7.
bite your tongue! leisure suit larry 5 was a good game!
Oh yeah I probably have to say that, nostalgia aside, Legend made some of the best adventure games.
Oh man... Oh man oh man...
This is going to go to LucasFilm Games as far as I'm concerned... I started my adventuring life with Maniac Mansion, on my XT with Hercules graphics card. I hated MM, but regardless, it got stuck in my mind (god, how I hated getting locked in that dungeon... Grrrrr).
I sometimes went along to my dad's work. They had a spiffy 486DX2-66 there (which was, to be honest, pretty much the shiznit of the shiznit back then... I was like, 9 or something (that's 91) and they had Monkey Island 2 on it! We had a 286 at home, and I knew Monkey Island 2 had to work on it... Or thought, anyway. It took me a year before I found out about ARJ and its multiple archive function, so I could finally get MI2 home and play it there!
Of course, by that time I'd almost finished Easy Mode (hey, I got to play it like 4 times that year) and when I got home I started on regular Monkey ;)
About 2 years down the road, I owned a P133 with a CDROM player (yay!), and a friend of mine gave me a Lost Treasures 0 CDROM with all kinds of semi-legal (OH GNO! It was virtually impossible to buy these games in the Netherlands at the time... When I got the chance, I bought them all, so don't you accuse me of nothing :p) games like MI, MI2 and some sierra games. I totally hated the sierra games. I never enjoyed games in which I can die. Which also explains why I never liked the Indiana Jones games that much. Regardless though, I finally got to play Monkey Island 1.
MANY years later, I found the game I would forever love. It is Grim Fandango, and I'm its bitch.
LucasArts pwnz me.
I got into adventure games with KQ1 and KQ2, and completed a lot of sierra games after that (PQ1 and 2, QFG 1, 2, 3 and 4, GR, CB...)
But when Monkey Island came along, I just couldn't get past it. Those awesome graphics, the wacky stuff, the cool GUI's... and no dead ends, guess-what-word-the-designer-was-thinking-of puzzles or dying! (yeah, ok, you could die in Indy games, but it was kinda fun).
Sierra had a special way, a certain charm. I still love looking back on Sierra games.
Yet, I'm more of a Lucas fan now.
I can't really decide between Sierra and LucasArts.
I grew up with both Police Quest and Monkey Island at the same time, I wasn't very old when I started playing adventure games. But, of course, I was born a bit late to experience the golden age of the NES and adventure games. I loved the first two MI-games, because they had great graphics and funny puzzles.
But I also loved Sierra's AG's, Police Quest especially. The Sierra games have a certain charm, but I've always been sort of a SCUMM-bitch. :=
So, I'll have to say, out of 100 points, LEC gets 60. ;)
It's difficult to make a choice.
My a.gaming experience started at age 5 with Lucas Arts (MI my first original game bought) but then, when I was about 10 I discovered Larry 3 and then loved the text parser and Sierra's games humour and playability.
Now I'm turning back again and I'm too lazy for the text parser, but, in fact, Sierra earlier games don't use it, so I'd say Sierra.
Al Lowe is one of my idols, of course. But a mention for Ron Gilbert is deserved,too.
Quote from: Helm on Wed 06/04/2005 04:34:58
Oh yeah I probably have to say that, nostalgia aside, Legend made some of the best adventure games.
As well as some crap ones too- Companions of Xanth? But I have to agree. Eric the Unready was incredible. It just took me ages to find the telephone to call for cake.
Revolution was also great. Not only Lure of the Temptress, but Beneath a steel sky too.
I wouldn't be able to decide between LucasArts or Sierra. I grew up with both Graham as well as Guybrush, and enjoyed both. However, as a kid, I could only play Monkey Island by myself. Dying just terrified me.
why is everyone saying that they were afraid of sierra games cause you could die? you could SAVE your games, too...
one of the best sierra deaths - getting eating by that big, jellyfish alien thing in space quest 2 (the alien maze part)
Oh, dying was ok, the painful thing was to die for things like going to the toilet. That and dead ends.
Otherwise Sierra games were pretty awesome.
the only sierra game i really played was space quest 6, and dying in that was okay because there was a "ry again" function, so you didn't have to replay loads of game to get back to the right place.
Quote from: hello123 on Fri 08/04/2005 12:04:52
why is everyone saying that they were afraid of sierra games cause you could die? you could SAVE your games, too...
Have mercy! A little kid playing King's quest....
almost pissing in your pants as the Ice Queen orders the wolves to tear you apart.....
they're walking slooooowly towards you....
frightened to death, you start giving all you can to her, trying to get them off your back.
Babar... I got that one on the FIRST TRY! Honestly, it's my favourite adventure game playing moment of all time. The wolves started to move, my sister was scared, my parents worried, and I actually threw out my arm and pointed at the screen, yelling "USE THE _________!" And it worked. And I was so proud of myself and Mom said I could have a cookie.
That's one of the things I liked about Sierra games. In the games where you couldn't die for stupid things (oh Gabriel Knight, what an AWESOME game you are!) the possiblity of dying really increased the tension. It doesn't matter how many times LeChuck zaps Guybrush, he's going to live. So it just becomes an annoyance. But when the evil wizard appears and tries to zap King Graham, you'd better do something because there's actual consequences!
The first adventure I ever played, was Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade, EGA version, somewhere in start of 90's. I was about 6 years old then, just been "introduced" to IBM PC and just about to fall into hands of "the curse" which ruined my sleep, time and life afterwards ;)
All sudden, on this 16-color screen, I saw something amazing. I thought about it as the coolest thing in the world and decided that some day, I will be able to make such a thing by myself.
Well, It ruled sooo-much. Too bad that I couldn't speak english more than saying what my name is, in english. So this game somewhat got lost for me. But even as shitty as my english is today, I still owe 70% of the knowledge to AGI (therefore, Sierra) games. The real craze started with Leisure Suit Larry 1 and KQ3 hit the ticket: I played and played - with dictionary nearby - it until I knew english enough to finish it (which took more than three years!)...
So, a Sierra kid, with deep sympathy towards LucasArts.
Adventure games and playing them has taught me something very useful in this life.
Currently, I have no wish to play Sierra games. They just lived their age out and lost the touch.
But... why are there so few games that are at least a little bit replicate the feeling I get while playing Indy FOA or Last Crusade?
And how long will it take to get FOY completed at last?
Sierra was number one in my heart for years. With Kings Quest, Space Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Mixed up Mother Goose, Doctor Brain games, and many more. These were many of them my childhood games. Space Quest especially. I didn't even look at another company until after Sierra started going down hill, about six or seven years ago.
Then came Lucas...which didn't beat sierra, but CMI impressed me a lot. I was completely sucked into the game, as my sisters and I played together. And then even better, Grim Fandango.
There have been other companies to make great advenure games, too. But Sierra is still probably looked at more fondly in my mind than any other company. Lucas Arts comes to a close second. When all is said and done, though. I think it's what you grew up with that you'll probably enjoy the most.
-MillsJROSS
true dat, mills