Well, I think we've had a lot of religious threads lately, and so why don't we take a secular break from all that and sit down to talk about Spider-Man 3. I thought I'd start this thread because we usually have threads for all these big, blockbuster hits (Like Pirates 3, and Star Wars Episode III, etc).
So... pretty much the same stuff as in the other movie threads- speculation about the movie, comments on the other movies in the series, that kind of stuff. Please try to stay out of the religious talk altogether (unless it's used to prove a point in some way).
Begin!
I hate Star Wars Ep 1,2 & 3. They ruin the real ones. >:(
I got mixed up blah. Stupid George.
So you consider the new episodes to be the real ones? I think one of us is confused.
Im seeing spiderman 3 on Saturday, so i'll review it then!
I'm hoping to see it opening night, or Sunday, but I probably won't end up seeing it until later.
I have to say that I really don't much care for movie adaptations of comic books. I can't remember much about the first in this newest series of Spiderman films, but I do remember that it wasn't great. The second was poor. The third will probably be bankrupt. IMO! LOL!1 :P
IMO, the Spider-Man series was actually one of the best comic book-to movie-films I've seen. It sure is better than Fantastic Four.
Quote from: Steel Drummer on Thu 03/05/2007 05:41:44
IMO, the Spider-Man series was actually one of the best comic book-to movie-films I've seen. It sure is better than Fantastic Four.
Howard the Duck is better than Fantastic Four.
The Spider-man movies were appaling, IMO, because most of any one movie is just romantic dross. I hope 3 will be a bit better, (I'll watch it soon) 'cos it'll be with Venom, and that's the only reason I'm going to watch it.
This has been out for a few days here and I had planned to take my nieces and nephew yesterday, but some things came up and I had to cancel on them. Hopefully I'll be taking them tomorrow. I'm pretty excited even though I wasn't a huge fan of the first two.
Quote from: Vince Twelve on Thu 03/05/2007 08:19:13
Hopefully I'll be taking them tomorrow.
That's what I want to read from you mate. So everything going well huh? :)
Yup. I'm a fan of spiderman for almost 18 years now... The movies are a must for me. IT was pretty close to the original comics, the proper guys were credited (ahem), and evreything is fine. It is a good movie. I won't go if something is better or nto, but SPidey, along with Harry Potter and a couple of more series, are the ones that I do go to see on the theater, while, for example Star Wars I didn't. Though this is highly peronsal of course.
I wasn't as impressed as I was with Spidey 2.
It's good - but I thought Spiderman 2 was better.
Bt
I don't like all these newer super hero movies. I just don't get that good feeling when I watch them. The feeling I get when I watch those good old Batman movies (not Batman begins). Some how those newer movies just don't do it for me.
It'll be the worst of all i think. >:(
When i was lil i saw all parts of the cartoon
and I think after all those I wont like this movie.
But first i watch it then I post a reveiw. ;)
"Man, what is this, the third super-villain in a row that has used this fug Mary Jane Watson chick as Spider-bait?"
"Yeah, I wonder if there's some reason for that... Maybe we could check out MJ's friends and family to try and figure out who Spider-Man is. Then we could sell the info to J.K. Simmons, the shining light of this film series, for some cash."
"Well, we could do that, but it would probably involve... y'know, looking at or talking to her. And I don't know about you, but I've never seen a movie with a less appealing leading lady. Both the character and the lady playing her are repulsive on multiple levels. Hey! Remember when we watched the first movie, and when Parker asks MJ how her audition went she tells him that they said she needed a few acting lessons, and then the whole audience started giggling and nodding in agreement?"
"Yeah, but..."
"And another thing, in this movie, how come the only villain who wasn't paper thin was the one that was also not cool or really threatening in any way? I mean... flying snowboard? C'mon!"
"Stop breaking the fourth wall!"
"You did it first with the J.K. Simmons praising."
"Yeah, but he rules."
"Yes he does. Yes he does."
Spider-man phenomenon has always been a mystery for me.
A man in tight costume spitting goo from his sleeve? Jumping on buildings?
And always in a jerkish pose, like he had trouble standing up?
It's always triggering my tiny homophobic brain cell...
And it's almost impossible for me to watch seriously the movie without start humming ancient naughty techno tune:
"Face down! Ass up! That's the way we like to --"
Quote from: Mr. Buckéthead on Fri 04/05/2007 09:00:57
I don't like all these newer super hero movies. I just don't get that good feeling when I watch them. The feeling I get when I watch those good old Batman movies (not Batman begins). Some how those newer movies just don't do it for me.
/me takes out his extra, extra long barrel gun, and shoots Buckethead's car down
Well, I just saw Spiderman 3 today. I thought it was outstanding.
Spoiler
The bad guy dies.
The question is...
Spoiler
which one?
My answer is:
Spoiler
Go see the movie
Quote from: Blackthorne on Thu 03/05/2007 19:17:26
I wasn't as impressed as I was with Spidey 2.
It's good - but I thought Spiderman 2 was better.
Bt
Same here, and I am not really agreeing "per se". I went to see the movies without reading this thread, and had that same impression when I went out of the cinema, I was not influentiated by anyone' s opinion.
I felt that the Parker' s inner conflicts were not so serious in this third part.
Also I was a bit lost in the fight scenes, too much 3d, too much subjective camera... But that' s something I am sadly getting used to in the last few years. I would preffer slower, but more clear fight scenes, such as Troy (as an example) which also used a lot of 3-d scenes, but looked less exaggerated.
For some reason, I loved the first Spiderman deeply. I loved the geeky college environment, his mundane strife to get that girl and I could really feel what a relief those spiderpowers must have been for him.
With all those horrible cartoon-movies out there, Fantastic Four, Electra, Cat-Woman, Dare Devil etc, at least this movie has a modicum of quality drama.
I enjoyed this film a lot. Spider-man was the only superhero I was ever heavily into - I collected the comics for a few years - and obviously can still remember a lot of the mythology.
There were some moments that were a little TOO convenient in the plot, but I allowed a suspension of disbelief for entertainment purposes. Some bits are very funny (JK Simmons and Bruce Campbell both give great scene stealing performances) and I was pleasantly surprised that Topher Grace made a good Venom. My only disappointment in this respect is that Venom wasn't IN it enough.
Best of the three, in my opinion.
And Stan Lee even gets a line!
Batman Begins and X Men 2 were excellent superhero sequels. Great theater experiences.
I don't think sequels are doomed naturally, but I think they didn't try very hard while writing Spiderman 3. Too little character development for two of the villains, and waaaay too much with the third. Kirsten Dunst is annoying and my main reason for being indifferent towards the series. She was despicable in Spider Man 3. Moments where she was leaving Peter Parker I almost cheered because I was sick of her face.
My favorite scene by far involves a Jazz club and an emo haircut.
The rest of the movie looked like silly putty.
Perhaps I'm not one to comment as I'm 100 percent bias towards comic book movies. I've seen them and loved them all, well all except cat woman. Anyways, I thought this was the best spider man movie yet. When I heard how many villains they were going to cramp pack into this sequel I was nervous, but I think they pulled it off very well. Getting to see Peter's darker side was very interesting. The only part that felt forced was Harry helping spidey at the end.
You thought Venom was done well?
Spoiler
Eddie Brock is exposed for photoshopping so he prays at a church for God to kill Parker. Coincidentally, Parker is several floors above him dripping a substance from a meteorite which had crawled onto his moped during a picnic.
That entire storyline is paper thin.
Spoiler
Brock doesn't care about Gwen when she's dangling from a building but his life is ruined when Parker goes on a date with her?
I think XMen and Batman storylines have been so much better. The villains have rational motives. Take Magneto from XMen, Penguin from Batman Returns, and Stryker from X2:
Magneto thinks he's protecting his fellow mutants.
Penguin has been living an inferior life to the people above him whose garbage he wades through.
Stryker thinks all mutants are a threat to mankind and that wiping them out will save lives.
These motives are believable. You can understand the conflict because ultimately were not sure if Professor X is right and Magneto is wrong. Penguin HAS been treated like filth and deserves revenge. Stryker IS threatened by mutants and would be better off without Magneto and others who ultimately kill him.
Spiderman 3 villains however...
Spoiler
The villains in Spiderman are mostly people who REFUSE to listen. Harry Osborn never listens. He's told the truth again and again so what makes him so bad is denial. That's the source of his villainy. Likewise Venom blames Spiderman for his problems, as does Doc Oc. The sandman is a little different because the tables are turned. Parker REFUSES to see the truth about his uncle. Every conflict in spiderman stems from people being stubborn, and its difficult to watch. Its difficult to watch Mary Jane and Peter break up because they could patch it up but Mary Jane decides to be stubborn. Constant stubborness is annoying hence Spiderman 3 is annoying.
The first half of the movie went on pretty okay. The second half stepped very firmly into silly land, with bad or purely inconsiquent characterization, odd and absurdist changes in tone (jazz club? What?) and it generally became tiring, almost insulting to the viewer. I could not wait for the movie to end, and it ended three times just to mess with me.
I hate to be stubborn about Spiderman 3... but according to the movie that's all there is to people. To be stubborn.
It was an okay movie. Nothing more. However, I've never been a huge fan of the spiderman movies to begin with. This one was just kind of bleh compared to its previous two movies. It just seemed long, and as people have mentioned near the middle, some of it just seemed silly. The only thing to really look forward to were a few cameo's. But, if you don't expect much, which I didn't, it's entertaining enough.
-MillsJROSS
Here (http://hs-dan.livejournal.com) is my review of Spider-Man 3. I think it clearly states my position on the movie.
PS: The reason for me having a livejournal account is that it allows me to easily update. Nothing else.