To answer your first question, NO, this is not a thread to start a flame war between the Trekkies and the erm...Warries? its a question to all the fans out there,( yes, we know who you are)as well as none fans, as to whether the star wars or star trek fans, have less of a sense of humour, to put it bluntly, who would be more likely(or the first) to burn my house down if I made a game unofficially in these universes, but made fun of the universes conventions while at it. give you your reasons, and which you would prefer. oh, and hate me, hate me now.
I don't think anyone would care. If you made a game about making fun of Bolivians I'm sure you'll get some angry PMs but I'm 99.9% sure no one will hate you for making a game making fun of a tv show/movie.
There is fan fiction out there involving all the characters of each universe having sex with each other, I doubt you'll do something more "offensive" than that!
So to answer the question: I don't care which, as long as you have fun. But I'd prefer Star Trek because Star Wars has been spoofed so much and is so boring anyway. Just don't make jokes about the one guy on an away team that gets killed.
Actually I think it's quite a fun debate! I remember we used to talk about it a lot down our street, because there was a clear divide amongst the street-leaders, Leigh & Neil, one was a trekky, the other a Star Wars fan.
At the time, I was a trekkie fan moreso because though the Star Wars universe was quality, it was all about war. Trekking was about, well trekking, discovery & adventure (and yes sometimes some war, but not ALL OUT war).
Anyway. Don't quote me but I'd imagine Trekky fans have less of a sense of humour. I've never heard of crazy Star Wars conventions like we all have Star Trek conventions.
What would be awesome is if Jean luc Piccard stumbled across the Star Wars universe! :P
I beleive that you're likely to offend both parties if you parody both universes, but on the flip-side - both sides will still really enjoy a parody. J Dekker's Star Trek Spoof game looked really fun. That's about all I can contribute, because I'm not really sure what it is you're asking.
I hate Star Trek and am one of the biggest Star Wars fans ever, but parodies don't really offend me. In fact, I was even think of making a Star Wars parody myself.
That's it, which would you rather see spoofed. actually, my plan was not a spoof, I mean it would make fun of the universe, but it wouldn't spoof specific characters, like "Captain Jerk" for "captain kirk" or something like that. (its hard to spoof star wars names anyway, because they are just so silly already)
Contrarywise, I hate Star Wars and am huge fan of Star Trek, a parody won't offend me.
Also Mark, though I haven't heard of a purely Star Wars convention, I'm sure they exist, and I have seen just as many Stormtroopers and Darth Vaders as I have Klingons and Federation personel at these events.
I wouldn't say Star Trek fans are any crazier.
Hmmm...
/me remembers that time he had a drink at Quark's Bar in Vegas :-\
Ah! No StarGate?
Stargate? I like that but can't see the potential of it getting spoofed.
(Well I suppose you could have a symbiont argue woith the host...)
I don't mind star wars, but it bores me from time to time. (Not just the new ones either)
I have watched probably every single episode of star trek except the sixties series. Having said that, I don't consider myself a trekkie as I only own a few films and don't do anything else star trek wise.
I once spoofed star trek myself when I was younger. It was audio only and it was called "captain's log", so yeah I'd love to play a spoof game.
When I was first thinking of what adventure game to make I had an idea for a game I'd call "Odo's investigations", set when he can shape shift. But my graphic skills would never give it justice.
Quark has his own bar on earth now? That's awesome! Despite the obvious name I much prefer Star Trek. Star Trek IV seems to be a parody of Star Trek itself. I often like parodies of either of the universes. Ninjas on the otherhand are deadly serious.
Neither.
Edit: Seriously.
I was working on a star trek parody that played like Star Trek 25th, but with over the top situations like 'The Strange Case of Mr. Scott' where each episode Scotty's a bit fatter until Kirk goes to the engine room and finds that Mr. Scott's become addicted to Andorian Donuts and he's expanding at an exponential rate. So yeah, I think humor with either series is fine.
Star Wars has stormtroopers, lightsabers, the force and Darth Vader.
Star Trek has klingons, proton torpedos, trekkin' and Jean luc Piccard.
Hitchhiker's Guide has vogons, dolphins, loads of fun and Marvin.
Dune has huge worms, freemen, the spice and an evil fat Baron.
Parody all of them a just little. Don't limit yourself on one thing. :P
I always have loved Star Trek over Star Wars (mainly over plot preferences), but I feel that if you were making a parody, a SW parody would be funnier and be more easily recepted. However, if your making a funny version, as in having very daft situations in a universe, I feel Star Trek would be more suitable. Also, you won't have to worry about George Lucas sending his death star loaded with cease-and-desist letters to you. :=
Although, on the topic of which have a greater sence of Humor, its probably going to be the Trekkies. Pretty much my entire family have been a fan at one point or another, and we all get along fine. Star Wars is just too serious. :-\
- Huw
Quote from: Krysis on Sat 27/05/2006 10:36:59
Hitchhiker's Guide has vogons, dolphins, loads of fun and Marvin.
Heh...How can you parody Hitchhiker's Guide? That'd be weird.
Make something like Space Quest... but with parodies on different movies...
And let me do the music... like... 70's Hawkwind spacerock... It'd be great :D
Space Balls is a nice Star Wars parody that I watched, it's a bit old but quite nice.
I was never into Star Trek, but I saw the Star War movies (except Phantom Menace) and played a few Star Wars games. I was never a "fan" though, I just think it's a nice story. Being a "fan" of something very often forces you to lie to yourself and also to waste money on things that you don't actually need :P
Space balls the movie! I love that film.
By the way, it also to a smaller degree spoofed Alien and Star trek! (and maybe some other things)
Remember, when that bad guy gets beamed in by Snotty? Man that was freaking hilarious!
Also, Space balls stars the guy who plays Tuvok in Voyager who has a very small part "combing" the desert.
I think in the game you should spoof actors from both series and creators of both series. I'd personally prefer a star wars spoof since i'm not into star trek.
Forget all the previosly mentioned titles and make a parody of "Alien from L.A.", Kathy Ireland starred in that film, along with Thom Matthews (Tommy Jarvis in Friday the 13th VI). It was cheesy as hell. I'm sure you can think of a way :D
Never heard of it. I suspect most people haven't if you have to tell us who starred in it!
I think some of those star trek fan series like you have under your banner are more like parodies lol
(Dunno if I saw the particular one in your banner actually)
Star Trek. Just because as bad as some of it is (I'm referring to a lot of Voyager and most of Enterprise), at least Paramount is allowing it's fans access to it, as expensive as the DVD sets may be. With Star Trek, there's no one person who holds sway over the series and can change it at will.
Just imagine how bad it would be if the only versions of the original series availible had updated CGI effects, and shots of Red Shirts shooting first before they died?
Either one is fine. Just remember, what will offend a fan more than anything is if you make fun of something, but get it wrong. So as long as all your jokes are accurate, most fans can enjoy a few laughs at their expense.
And for the record, I'm more of a Babylon 5 fan over both series.
-MillsJROSS
Meh, Firefly ALL the gorram way! ;D
But if I had to choose one, it'd be star wars. Although it's been spoofed quite a lot by now. Either one could work well really, as long as you avoid any of the really obvious gags that've been done a million times before.
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sun 28/05/2006 19:26:59
I think some of those star trek fan series like you have under your banner are more like parodies lol
I wouldn't say Star Trek New Voyages is like a parody. Each episode is well produced. Even so they a look here http://66.221.175.127/cadysystemsgroup/startrek/movies/Death_TUC.avi ultimatly serious and awesomly cool.
Ah, it was a Star trek intrepid trailer, made me laugh! And when I said parody, that was a tenous link and me taking the piss!
I downloaded the file only to get a "invalid menu handle" message or something! Egad that keeps happening to me! I'm gonna have to google the problem and get back to you on whether the star trek thing is any good. (IMO)
I heard somewhere that "New Voyages" uses the theme from "Galaxy Quest" . Anyone seen THAT movie? ;D
The problem with New Voyages is the actors are very wooden for the most part. I think it could be a great show if they snagged some actors guild people that wanted experience, and the cgi effects are rather good.
I've not seen Galaxy Quest, but if you mean main theme, they use the same one as the original Star Trek, the series they are continuing. Paramount has allowed them to continue so long as they don't make money from it, and many popular writers from the franchise are attached to it, such as D. C. Fontana writing the next episode, and two DS9 writers on the next.
Quote from: cheeba on Mon 29/05/2006 06:44:41
Meh, Firefly ALL the gorram way! ;D
Nah, if anyone does that I'll go all River Tam on their ass :D see my avatar. Anyways, there was a parody called "Mosquito" which was apparently well-produced and funny, though I've not seen it. Also, there is a serious fan project going called "Into the Black" (http://www.intotheblack.ca/) that is based in the Firefly verse, produced by a group of Vancouver Browncoats.
Yeah, cool avvy, though it's starting to give me a strange urge to beat up a barful of thugs :-\
I've heard about into the black, apparently Nathan Fillion even gave them a little extra funding for it (could that guy be any cooler?). Incidentally, I think a non-parody firefly adventure would be pretty shiny.
I should have pegged you as a browncoat when I read about your game ;). I'm a bit disappointed in myself, I usually have an excellent Whedondar :).
Babylon 5 kicks both their arses!
*runs away from demented fanboys*
Well, at first I was trying to make Stargate Parody, but later changed my mind and made just normal Stargate Adventure.
Althou I thought much about the SG parody, like parallel universe (remember "paralel" mirror :) ), which would contain SG-1 team with different models, like switching Daniel Jackson with Michael Jackson :).
Names woulde be:
Jack -> Joke
Daniel Jackson - > Jack Daniels (Whiskey:))
Teal'c -> Thick (suits him)
... well, nevermind that..
I just thought this thread makes it look like they are only two type of people: those who love Star Trek and hate Star Wars and vice versa. This can'tÃ, be true.
I, myself, love BOTH the Star Wars Trilogy* AND Star Trek (especially TOS and the TOS-related movies).
(* intentional, I don't like the new movies)
I also like Red Dwarf and Stargate SG-1, for example, but I didn't see an extensive amount of episodes.
well that wasn't my intention, it was to see which one would less likely cause raving fans to come and kill me as an heretic. ;D in other news, I have decide to make a Star trek game. not know of course but later, quite a bit later.
Has anyone seen this yet? http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/31496/Lost_Star_Wars_Intro.html
It's an old deleted Star Wars scene where Luke meets his friends.
A part, if not all, of it's somewhere in the DVD special release... It's where he speaks with Briggs and his friends telling them he has seen the battle between the Tantive IV and the ISD, no?
Quote from: jet on Thu 01/06/2006 18:07:55
Has anyone seen this yet? http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/31496/Lost_Star_Wars_Intro.html
It's an old deleted Star Wars scene where Luke meets his friends.
http://www.starwarz.com/deletedmagic/
Don't know if it's available anywhere anymore (downloaded it some years ago with BitTorrent) but I think I read somewhere that that footage was from the Star Wars Behind the Magic multimedia cd-rom. Not sure, though, I don't have a copy.
Red Dwarf seriously IS the greatest science-fiction television program. Even though its a parody, it kicks Star Trek and Star Wars for both sci-fi AND humour.
(i mean the uk one, not the real bad american remake)
I like Lexx myself. Its not my fave sci-fi on tv, its just a lot a fun, rather weird, and quite different. but beware of looking up fansites. You can read some disturbing posts about Stanley Tweedle, and what some woman what to do with him, and that’s just in googles previews :P
Yeah, I've only caught a few episodes of lexx late nights on the sci-fi channel, but really liked what I saw, it manages to be fun and insanely inventive even on a shoestring budget. Of course, having Eva Habermann/Xenia Seeberg on board doesn't hurt either ;D
Just so you know cheeba, showcase has it at 7:00 PM Pacific time.
LOL Thanks for the link to New Voyages, it looks like an interesting show. I've got to see it now. :P
And as for which...
Does Star Trek have a D20 system RPG? I don't think so... ;)
I hate both Star Trek and Star Wars I think Science-Fiction is complete rot!
the new Battlestar Galactica is pretty awesome, although the last few episodes of the last season seemed a bit rushed.
Quote from: Slava on Wed 07/06/2006 09:21:47
I think Science-Fiction is complete rot!
Care to tell us why?