Alright, I love System of a Down and I LIVE off their works. They recently reevamped their site systemofadown.com and will release their new album on May 17th. I know that nobody really cares but me, but I would like you to browse around the site and still be able to tell me that your not the least bit interested. (Really creepy and hypnotizing graphics) System of a Down is a very unique band that targets politics, psychology, and death. They are classified as Hard Rock, but they are really a style all their own. You can listen to their new sond B.Y.O.B. (Bring your own Bombs) on the site for free! They are awsome!!!
Screw George Bush !!!
System of a Down is to politics as KFC is to chicken.
WOO!!! A reply that supports SOAD!!! WOO!!! Your right of course. They do have some songs about death(Toxicity) and psychology(Science)
Akumayo... Re-read what Sylpher said..
Do I misunderstand??? KFC means Kentucky fried Chicken right? Did they lie to me. Does it really stand for Kentucky Fried Chimps??? Or does he say that SOAD is from Kentucky? I don't undertstand!!...
(Oh god I'm a loser)
Maybe it would have been clearer if he said "as KFC is to happy little chickens" :) Because to chicken in general, it could be argued (and would be, by me) that they make it taste great.
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...
Let us taunt Sylpher because he is a REPUBLICAN!!!
republican, republican, republican, republican, republican, republican, republican, Sylpher's a republican!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
ahaha...ha..ha..aa
not funny huh....
okay...I lose...I still like System of a Down though...
Yes.
Anyone who doesn't like SOAD is a republican.
Let us go on a witch hunt.
Yeah! All right! Woo-hoo!
Oh wait...I loathe System of a Down...
:P
Let the whitchhunt begin. CHANT WITH ME ME SOAD BRETHREN(S)?
Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!! Kill TerranRich!!!
okay... I'm done....
TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican! TerranRich is a republican!
Okay.. I'm really done now....
SOAD ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean in no way to offend. I enjoy them, but if you look up to them for a deeper vision into politics, science, ect... I beg of you to read up on these topics on your own, please... Think of the chickens!
I don't read DEEPLY into them... often...
I really just like the way they sound and thought others should be given a chance to listen to them... that's all really. I do love them though. I have all their albums, have pre-ordered the next one, and watched their somewhat lousy performance last night on SNL.
I heard Bea Arthur on the radio talking about KFC's horrible treatment of the chickens they keep. I trust Bea Arthur! I shall not support KFC, though being vegetarian makes it extra easy :D
If you support an artist by buying their records, perhaps you ought to read DEEPLY to be sure you're not supporting something you really don't care for.
Call me a republican Akumayo and I'll get angry
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I've always been a fan of SOAD. They are their own style and culture. Haha, and Chic N' Stu makes my laugh every time I hear it. :)
Quote from: Akumayo on Mon 09/05/2005 01:58:39
I really just like the way they sound and thought others should be given a chance to listen to them...
Then why not use this thread to bring people's attention to a lesser-known band?
I mean, you yourself said that SoaD was on SNL... I'm sure most of us have heard of them.
If we're on the subject of political bands: Refused would be good band to check out.
Chic 'N Stu always makes me hungry for pizza though, so I don't often listen to it...
Disco...you do realize that almost directly telling me not to call you a republican only worsens my condition that forces me to call people a republican right??? (I have P.W.H.S.O.A.D.A.R.A.M.B.C.A.S.D. (People Who hate system of a down are republicans and must be called as such disorder))
Disco's a republican!! (sort of not really) Disco's a republican!! (sort of not really) Disco's a republican!! (sort of not really) Disco's a republican!! (sort of not really)
Okay I'm done
I might check out Refused later. And I do believe in what SOAD sings about Disco, I just don't madly listen to it while pondering over the lyrics until the wee hours of the morning (often)
Hah, agreed. But usually my stomach urges me to eat some chives before I get hungry for pizza.
no chives for me, just pizza. because... BUM BUM BUM
"ALL I WANT IS PIE!!! PIZZA PIZZA PIE!!! EVERY MINUTE EVERY SECOND BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE!!! ALL I WANT IS PIE!!! PIZZA PIZZA PIE!!! EVERY MINUTE EVERY SECOND BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE!!! PEPPERONI AND GOOD PEPPERS, MUSHROOMS OLIVES CHIVES!!! PEPPERONI AND GOOD PEPPERS, MUSHROOMS OLIVES CHIVES!! ME THERAPY THERAPY ADVIRTISING CAUSES ME THERAPY THERAPY ADVERTISING CAUSES ME THERAPY THEREPY ADVIRTISING CAUSES ME!!!!!! (end of song, fade out... wait 2 seconds, fade into Innervision)
I smell locky. Is teh assassin/hitman around? ;)
Not very nice TerranRich!!! Ã, really, (don't say their names...it angers them... beware the lockys...)
Don't lock this topic!!!
It is a statement of self expression!!!
You can't take away my civil liberties!!!
We will fight the heathens!!
We will fight the heathens!!
I MUST ENFORCE MY BRIGHT DARKNESS
If I hadn't previously thought SOAD were crap, you just confirmed it for me Aku ^_-
I am a Republican and I like SOAD.... Your theory is broken.
Just wanna get this in before the doors close.
Quote from: Akumayo on Mon 09/05/2005 02:10:25
And I do believe in what SOAD sings about Disco, I just don't madly listen to it while pondering over the lyrics until the wee hours of the morning (often)
I've listened to a lot of System of a Down (Despite my nick), and I don't quite recall a song where they take what everyone says and augment it to seem like the most extreme case possible.
Quote from: Akumayo on Mon 09/05/2005 01:53:12
Let the whitchhunt begin. Kill TerranRich!!!
Also, I don't believe witch hunts and the death penalty are exactly tools of liberals.
My... theory... crushed....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh well, it was just because of my P.W.H.S.O.A.D.A.R.A.M.B.C.A.S.D. anyway...
I will liberate their souls by killing them... duh...
"Why don't presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor? Why don't president fight the war? Why do they always send the poor? Why do they always send the poor? Why do they always send the poor?"
Go dancing in the desert my friends, have a real good time
SOAD crazed Akumayo out, peace to all SOAD fans, be they democrat or republican (not that there is really much difference today)
please calm down.
guess what Mr. Colossal...
YOU JUST MADE System Of A Down, a strange topic about absolutely nothing except my arguments and eccentric love for SOAD a VERY HOT TOPIC!!!!!!!
You guys must be really bored to argue with me for this long.... anyway, I need to hit the hay, I have class tomorrow and I want to introduce SOAD to my history teacher, who also hates the U.S. government. Ã, I think he'll like SOAD, don't you guys?
(That question is retorical, because this is my last post, and I won't see any after this)
LET THE LOCKY'S HAVE THIS POST'S SOUL!!!!
BUT THEY CAN NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!!
Fear the locky. For it is your enemy. And our friend. :)
Akumayo, seriously dude. Calm it down, you are not giving a good name to System of a Down fans with your spazzing. Not that I am one of them. Oh wait, does that immediately make me a republican? I forgot that not liking a band decides my political standings.
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Hey guys, what's happening in this thread?
PS. BUSH SU><0R!!
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What a coincedence that my uncle was talking in the same SOAD crazed fashion as you are right now..I took a gander at their site and sampled thier stuff..musically, I can't say I'm really impressed, and I'm dissapointed that I went and paused my reel-to-reel of Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds...Oh well, to each his own.
And on the subject of exposure to more obscure bands:
Offical "Sterkh" website.
(http://www.sterkh.kiev.ua/eng/main.html/)
They are no longer together, but Russian's can freakin' rock..
Quote from: WeWalkTheLonelyRoad on Mon 09/05/2005 03:33:59
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Hey guys, what's happening in this thread?
PS. BUSH SU><0R!!
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hey doodz how come aint seen u on msn l8ly?
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Same old thing. Been busy protesting Bush.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/pestilence42/dudeslookout.png
Oh no! No band is safe!
Well this thread is just a little bit crazy... Oh well I guess I'll offer my 2 cents.
I like SOAD's music. I think that they are quite talented and make great music, but I'm not a fan of all their lyrics I 'spose. Much like alot of music I guess.
Did System of a Down really sing the Zelda song?
Y' know:
"Link, fill up your hearts,
so you can shoot
your sword with power"
I second the Refused suggestion. Mainly 'songs to fan the flames of discontent' and the wonderful 'shape of punk to come'
Quote from: Babar off the circuit on Mon 09/05/2005 07:42:09
Did System of a Down really sing the Zelda song?
Y' know:
"Link, fill up your hearts,
so you can shoot
your sword with power"
Nope:
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00022
Awesome nonetheless.
System of a Down rocks! Before SOAD I didn't listen to any music at all. I love their style and I can't wait for their new album ;D.
I think Chop Suey is their best song, along with Spiders. Sugar and Toxicity also rock
I'd studiously avoided them until a friend of mine made me listen to a whole album. He was right! It's just about the most amusing thing on the damn planet. Somehow I doubt it was meant to inspire giggles. Also, general amusement doesn't seem a good reason to purchase a Syndrome of a Down album.
Well, I listened to them quite a lot a few years ago, but then sort of "forgot" about them for a while, and just recently picked them up again after discussing them with the guitar player of our band. :) So it's kinda funny that you post a thread like this now. Heh.Ã,Â
Definately a good and original band with a whole bunch of great songs, if you ask me. Of all the bands in the very dubious so called nu-metal-movement, they're the only band that has ever really caught me. Maybe because they're the only ones who seem to have a sense of humour and are able to distance themselves a bit. :)
"Toxicity" is good, but I have to say that their debut is my personal favourite.
Quote from: TheYak on Mon 09/05/2005 09:05:25
I'd studiously avoided them until a friend of mine made me listen to a whole album. He was right! It's just about the most amusing thing on the damn planet. Somehow I doubt it was meant to inspire giggles. Also, general amusement doesn't seem a good reason to purchase a Syndrome of a Down album.
I thought it WAS meant to inspire giggles. You seen the video for Toxicity? The lead singer is psychotic.
I second. The music is some kind of agro-ska. Impossible to stand still too. And the lyrics is quite ok in some songs.. like 'Bounce'.. ingenious
"..She had so many friends.. *undescribable sound but similar to a chicken coop*.."
Ingenious!
SOAD Rock! I love heavy metal. who likes slipknot(BOO!)
8) SOAD 8)
I like SOAD very much. Gonna see them live next month. Oh yeah!
Quote from: Disco on Mon 09/05/2005 02:01:56
I heard Bea Arthur on the radio talking about KFC's horrible treatment of the chickens they keep. I trust Bea Arthur! I shall not support KFC, though being vegetarian makes it extra easy :D
But the Zinger Tower burger is just so tasty!
Think of the servers! Won't somebody please think of the servers! ;D
Isn't SOAD 'Sadly Obscure Angry Dudes'?
'Cause I'm a member.
yes, i too love System. I should hopefully be seeing them this year at Download fest.
Chicky, I want to make love to your avatar :o
Ok.. not a republican, and HATE George Bush... but don't care that much for System. So that theory.. not true.
That being said, I agree with what they say, and I think they are amazing musicians... I'm just not into their type of music. They are growing on me now, since they are my boyfriend's favorite band. Metal in general is growing on me. I actually am on a cd that is coming out this Thursday of an original Rock Opera. It's a heavy metal rock opera... so my horizons are definately expanding!
Mind revealing who this mystery meat of rocking the opera artist, Potch?
Slypher, I wasn't quite sure what you were asking.... But I'll explain the Rock Opera in a bit more detail.
My friend wrote a rock opera for a masters thesis in communications. He's had his own band for a long time, so he knows a lot of people in the area. Anyway, he asked me to sing on it, which blew my mind, since I've mostly been a karaoke singer. Granted I've won a few contests, but that's about it. Anywho... he's got a lot of friends that a musicians, since he had a band of his own for awhile, and got some of the best musicians in town to play on the cd. We had it recorded here in boise, and it was mastered in LA. A few weeks ago we did three live shows, and sold out all three with a standing ovation every time... it was pretty incredible. My friend is a freaking genius. The stuff he wrote is great. And don't let the word opera fool you... the music was about as far from opera as you can get. We even had a screamer, who was from a band here in town called Sub*Vert that is kind of on the verge right now. We are having a big cd release show at a club here in town this Thursday. It's pretty exciting. If you interested in learning more about it, there's a website... www.theerinys.com. And after Thursday, the cd will be available on cdbaby.com. so I went from singing ballads and country in the karaoke bars to rocking out with some of the best musicians in Boise. It's all kind of surreal.
*cough-lock it-cough* :=
My apologies, I forgot an 'is' in there somewhere. Thanks, I'll check it out.
Why would you want to lock a thread of this magnitude? More can be learned in this single thread then 90% in this forum. Closing it is madness!
I agree, all this relevant and thoutful music discussion that's happened in the past 24 hours has turned this thread for the worse.
As far as Rock Opera goes, it can't possibly be worse than The Chronicles Of Life and Death.
You must be joking! That is one of the finest crafted pieces of artwork of our time.
The term 'Rock Opera' has always rubbed me funny. And what do we do when things rub us funny, class? We say 'No!' and call 911.
Isn't there some rule about not pretending to be a moderator?
Thought so...
System of a Down,
Sounds like the Forums about a week ago. :)
As for the band, never heard their music at all.
I'm more into pop rock and easy listening 80's tunes like Hall & Oates & Journey.
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hay guys, we heard someone was bagging bush in this thread!! NOT MY PRESIDENT LOL
kthxbye
wow interesting topic...
Incase some of you didn't know, last night (NZ TIME) there was a leak and the new album was exposed to the evil evil downloaders of this world. The site that had it was closed down but some got away with their new album "mesmerize". Now i'm a huge SOAD fan and support them all the way but i couldn't resist when my friend gave me a copy.... The songs are cool as and the last few songs (violent pornographgy, Questions!, old skool hollywood, lost in hollywood and sad statue are the coolest)
I do feel bad betraying them like that but I couldn't resist.
Forgive me fans. :-\
System Of A Down isn't bad. I like them. I didn't care for "Steal This Album", though. I don't really pay attention to the lyrics, I just like to listen to the music.
You wanna mix opera with rock? Try Nightwish, an awesome gothic metal band. You can't fail to love it. As for SOAD, I'm not a bush hater and stuff but I still love their music and think that some of their lyrics are completely brilliant. But I wouldn't classify SOAD as metal.
I really enjoy listening to SOAD, and cant wait for Mezmerize, they're releasing 2 Albums but Hypnotize (I think that's the name?) wont be released till the end of the year or something.
They are quite musically talented, it may not seem like it, but if you actually get past the heavy stuff (if that's what you don't like) and listen, you'd be quite surprised.
It took me a while to get into them but I just love their changes. Their first self titled album is my favourite, but Ego Brain is my favourite song (occasionally).
When I first heard BYOB I didn't know what to make of it, but it is such a well structured song, even though originally I thought it was just all over the place.
I'm not sure when the album comes out in AUS, I think it may be the 23rd May, I'm definately looking forward to it.
I always listen to lyrics last as far as music goes, it's the least important part for me, I still don't even know the real words to most albums I've been listening to for decades.
As for this thread being locked, maybe Terran (and anyone else) should just ignore it if they're not into the music.
Nightwish is.. slightly beneath ok. But it is not exactly Rock Opera, it'd fall more under the New-Age-of-Gothic-influenced-Power-Metal genre. I guess. But hey, it's metal. A bit weak, but metal none the less. Closer to being opera values might be Therion. And I'd rather put SOAD at the Punk-Rock counter, but that's just me being a genre-fudgenut.
Honestly, why would downloading their album be a horrifying thing to do? If you download, listen and like what you hear, why not buy the album then and support your favourite band all the same. The only difference is when you heard it the first time. I used to download tons, and what I liked, I bought.
Sylph, I thought you we're supposed to tell them how to rub you right...
Nightwish is awesome, that's what it is. But yeah that's your oppinion.
QuoteThey are quite musically talented, it may not seem like it, but if you actually get past the heavy stuff (if that's what you don't like) and listen, you'd be quite surprised.
The metal bands I listen to are most times really deep musically. When people see metal as mindless clashes, screams and growls, of course they won't like it. But I actually enjoy metal and find it more melodic than the vast majority of the softer stuff. SOAD's music usually is very deep indeed.
We might have a nomenclature issue the term "Rock Opera". Rather than being rock with operatic elements musically, I've always understood it to be a rock album in which the songs are linked into a single narrative. Tommy, Jesus Christ Superstar [before the stage production], Deloused in the Comatorium, Chronicles of life and Death [yeah, it's shit], In Keeping Secrets of a Silent Earth:3 etc.
If anyone can name the original rock opera (in the way Las sees it, which I agree with), I'll give them a shiny thing.
The definitions get a little bit fuzzy here. In certain cases, some don't see a clear distinction between what's classified as a rock opera, what's classified as prog-rock, and what some would classify as a concept album. Some of these genres (or should I call them sub-genres?) tend to overlap with certain conventions, but they're exclusive terms (Or are they?). The problem is defining albums. Is it this genre? Is it another genre? Could it fit in more than one genre?
Like I said... fuzzy.
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AGA:
I found this...
The Who/Pete Townshend:
Influenced by his manager Kit Lambert to break out of the "4 minute shell" of pop, Townshend came up with 'A Quick One While He's Away' which was released in 1967 and probably wins the race for first rock-operetta. However, the Pretty Things (who shared Lambert as manager) released their mini-opera 'Defecting Grey' the same year and it's a matter of dispute as to who was influenced more by whom.
http://www.rockopera.com/bro/resources/rockoperahistory.html
But I'm going to ignore that and go with...
http://www.donlinke.com/drakula/
BLEEEGH!!!! I VANT TO SUCK VYOUR BLOOD!!!!
I was discounting A Quick One, because it's only 1 song, and lasts about 8 minutes. Didn't know about the Pretty Things' thing, but I'm also discounting that, because it seems as though it didn't last very long either. Keep guessing!
There's nothing gothic-y about Nightwish. And nothing really power metal-ish after oceanborn either. I don't like Nightwish, personally.
And what Las describes has it's own stupid and misleading name, 'concept album', as if non-thematic albums are devoid of a concept, but anyway. A good concept album I'd suggest to anyone is 'Misplaced Childhood' by Marillion.
AGA: Arthur by Ray Davies?
Well, the answer has to be in that link I gave, right?
Meh, my answer is still gonna be Dracula The Rock Opera.
I also second Helm's 'Misplaced Childhood' recommendation. He recommended it to me three or four years ago and it's still one of my most listened-to albums.
It's not in that link at all actually, DG.
Anyway, it was Ogden's Nut Gone Flake (side 2) by the Small Faces.
No it's not. It's Dracula: The Rock Opera. Admit it.
Helm: It's not goth, but the death romance is vivid. The scene has nested it's way into all sorts of genres, completely disforming itself on the way. It's gothic in the same way gothic lolita is gothic..
Ah ok, some of you did misunderstand the concept. Matt (the writer of said Rock Opera) had that problem with many of his friends as well. OK. Las pretty much got it right. You see, the term "opera" actually means to tell a story through music. It doesn't HAVE to be the cliche of the fat lady singing high notes and breaking glass. The cd that I am on it not like Pavarotti or Claudia Church. THere is nothing like that on the cd. Matt's influences for the album were more Rage Against the Machine and Marilyn Manson. It is a ROCK album. The only reason the term opera is added to it is because it tells a story. It's a pretty awesome story actually. It's about a woman who is trying to get revenge on these guys that killed her friends. She is trying to drag others down with her in her quest for Vengeance. It's violent and dark, and the music is awesome.
Matt told me that they are going to be adding some song clips to the website really soon, so you can see for yourself that it's not like what many of you think of when you think of Opera. :)
Back on the System topic... since they ARE growing on me, I have to say that my favorite song by them is Chop Suey.
Nightwish DID spawn some popular "copy-cats" (<- note ""). Like Evanescense (or however it's spelled) and Within Temptations. Then again, I might be defending it because I've bene listening to it for the last 8 years or so :P. Or perhaps because they're from my country.
Rock Operas are concept albums, but concept album just means the songs are linked by a specific, stated theme, not necessarily in narrative. Rod Stewarts the Great American Songbook is a concept album under this definition, although you wouldn't hear it called that.
A better example would be 69 Love Songs by The Magnetic Fields.
That's true, but in this particular case, The Erinys was written in order to tell a story, and make a statement.
While on the topic of concept albums:
I have recently acquired Mastodon - Leviathan, a concept album based on Moby Dick.
It pretty much rocks.
Phantom of the Paradise is considered a rock opera and as far as I know didn't start out as a concept album. Maybe I should research it more, but I don't really have the heart anymore since my Bill and Ted takeover flopped.
Also, does Rock and Roll High School count?
I can't decide which concept album is my favourite:
This one...
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... or this one...
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ARGH! Rowlf!!! @_@
Do you really own that? I'm so jealous.
Yeap, I own it. And by 'it', I mean an image I found on Google. Not the album.
D'oh.
I also want to give my opinion on SOAD:
Their music is allright, a little too popish at times for my taste. I agree that they are great musicians and they also have a very good production. I still think they are a little overrated though.
I agree with most of their lyrics but I don't think they're all that great maybe except for Prison Song (their best song IMO, far above the rest!). There's many other potical bands with far better political lyrics. I find it great that SOAD take a stand awrite their opinion since a lot of metal bands seems to be stuck in some fantasy world filled with dragons and brave knights. No offense.
Check these IMO great political lyrics out:
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/nofx/thedecline.html
and while you are at that band check this one out as well:
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/nofx/idiotsaretakingover.html
The thematic link can be one that is explored in storytelling, or in musical themes or even on the artwork of the album. How broad the concept is, doesn't really matter.
Good concept albums, linked in various ways:
Isis - Oceanic (lyric narrative, recurring passages, stylistic theme)
Secret Chiefs 3 - Book of Horizons (meta-concept)
Gorguts - Obscura (stylistic theme)
Current 93 - Dog's Blood Rising (stylistic theme, lyric narrative)
Devin Townsend - Terria (lyric narrative)
Ephel Duath - The Painter's Palette (each song refers to a specific colour of said palette)
maudlin of the Well - Bath
maudlin of the Well - Leaving your Body Map (esoteric meta-concept, recurring passages)
In the Woods... - HEart of the Ages (stylistic concept)
Husker Du - Zen Arcade (lyric narrative, reocurring dreams)
also, it's 'Within Temptation', and they've nothing to do with Nightwish, were not influenced by them and developed their style seperately. Nightwish themselves are probably influenced by the band The Gathering, who incidentally have a pretty good concept album out, called 'Nighttime birds'. Also, Mastodon were much better on their first EP 'Lifesblood' in my opinion than in any later album. The newest one, Leviathan, especially, I find very weak. Especially if you keep in mind that two of these guys were in Lethargy.
And 2ma2, I understand what you're saying, but when I use the term gothic in the musical context, I am thinking Bauhaus, Siuxsie, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim and the like. I don't see why I have to bastardize the term just because the popular perception of it has momentarily shifted. It's like people who call 'Tomb Raider' an adventure game.
Quote from: Helm on Wed 11/05/2005 12:11:45
The thematic link can be one that is explored in storytelling, or in musical themes or even on the artwork of the album. How broad the concept is, doesn't really matter.
In that case:
Anything by Fantômas.
QuoteAlso, Mastodon were much better on their first EP 'Lifesblood' in my opinion than in any later album.
I will have to check that out, then.
I will also have to give Secret Chiefs 3 a listen now, I keep forgetting to do so.
Holy Crap!!!
You guys took my phsycotic crack at exposing SOAD to others and turned it into a full blown, out of proportion topic about absolutely nothing in particular!!!
BTW, I preordered Hypnotize, and got it today!!! It is soooo awesome. I love Sad Statue, B.Y.O.B., and Violent Pornography!!! I have one of the earliest legal copies in existence!!! Aww yeah, I'm in the game now!!!
We'll all go down in history
With a sad Statue of Libererty
And the generation that didn't agree
(You guys are crazy)
SOAD ROCKS!!!!
Quote from: Akumayo on Fri 13/05/2005 01:45:41You guys took my phsycotic crack at exposing SOAD to others and turned it into a full blown, out of proportion topic about absolutely nothing in particular!!!
OH NOES!!!1! CALL THE INTERWEB POILCE!!!
Two boys learn that the telephone is a serious matter and should not be used as a toy when a group of vigilantes called the Phone Police bust anyone who does not follow the rules of the phone. And the Phone Police can do more than just put you in jail. They can erase your entire existance.
Can anyone tell me what that is from, without googling? (DG's post reminded me of it.)
I disqualify myself, but here is a hint for the rest of you:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/200px-Nickelodeon.jpg)
Rugrats?
Quote from: Scummbuddy on Fri 13/05/2005 04:05:58
Two boys learn that the telephone is a serious matter and should not be used as a toy when a group of vigilantes called the Phone Police bust anyone who does not follow the rules of the phone. And the Phone Police can do more than just put you in jail. They can erase your entire existance.
Can anyone tell me what that is from, without googling? (DG's post reminded me of it.)
Was that from Are You Afraid of the Dark? I think I remember being scared by that episode, because I made a lot of prank phone calls as a kid.
yeah... some of those were pretty good. like the girl turing into a doll... :o but when dg brought up the interweb police, all i could think about was those blue lights with the really weird siren. and yeah, i made prank calls too, and this would always come to my mind.
it was a nickelodeon conspiracy.
While "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" was quite good, nothing can beat the sheer awesome that is Pete and Pete.
oh, if i ran nickelodeon, i would play all the old shows that I grew up on at night, in place of nick at nite, since they already have "TV Land" which is essentially the same. I miss Salute Your Shorts, oh, and I was not knocking Pete and Pete. I remember back before it became a show, and they did 30 second shorts between different shows. Good times.
Spongebob rocks my socks off!!!!
Nostalgic for "Pete and Pete" Scummbuddy? Four days from today go to your local DVD retailer and ask for this (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/releaseinfo.cfm?ReleaseID=4606).
It will surely bring you back.
Ok, sorry to drudge up this old thread, but there are now some sound clips from the rock opera, The Erinys on http://cdbaby.com/cd/mcvb. I'm interested to hear any of your opinions... good and bad. They're just short clips of the songs, but at least you can get a slight feel for it.
Thanks guys!