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Title: The English are crazy
Post by: Barcik on Fri 16/04/2004 14:43:24
And mad. And lunatics. And then some.

One million dollars was the sum Rebecca Loos received for an intereview, which was broadcasted yesterday on Sky One and received attracted a near record two million auidience. For all who don't know, Loos claims she had an affair with David Beckham, England's and Real Madrid's football star. The whole thing started two weeks ago, when Loos confessed to the News of the World that the English star cheated on his wife with her. Ever since, it has been getting bigger and bigger. Thousand of women call the offices of local tabloids, confessing they had sex with Beckham. The climax was yesterday, in the interview where Loos revealed steamy details about her relationship with the football player. To prove that she isn't lying, she showed dirty SMS messages she received from Beckham, and said she knows as intimate spot on his body that only a women he has slept with can now. All of this fiasco was followed closely by millions of Brits.

I remember from the time I spent in England that most of their press consists of tabloids. Even the 'serious' newspapers often have larger-than-life titles claiming to have a spicy detail "Prince William's New Girlfriend", or a new revelation about Princess Diania's death. People seem to be more interested in these cheesy in details then the real news.

And this is what I want to know. Do you, CJ, m0ds, custard and all other Englishmen really care who Beckham is screwing? Or any other such piece of news that so often puts England in a frenzy about the most ludicrous. Is the average English person interested in all the nonsense the English press produces? ARE YOU REALLY CRAZY?
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Fri 16/04/2004 14:46:55
Not bothered really, all tabloid trash. From what i have seen though, he could do a lot better! :P

The Sun (one of the major tabloid news papers) for example, has a reading age of 12. So its no big words etc, filled with lots of trash :)
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: veryweirdguy on Fri 16/04/2004 14:55:57
It's true. Most of our press is crap. The Sun is the most popular newspaper (apparantly) which says it all.

It seems that whenever someone gets successful over here (such as David Beckham), then the reporters have to dig as much bad stuff up about him/her as they can. Perhaps it's a form of jealousy, I don't know.

The sad thing is that people believe it all. The newspapers get away with printing any old crap, & the public lap it up.

I couldn't care less about David Beckham's personal life. What happens in his life is his own business.

I don't really see why people go on at Beckham so much - as he said himself (I think), he ain't no Einstein, but then Einstein couldn't play football like him.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Creed Malay on Fri 16/04/2004 14:56:02
 Personally, I care for celebrity culture not at all. This is because I avoid mobile phones, soap operas, football and all other retardation-enhancers, and keep my mind sparkly and active with exotic drugs, books and movies.
I think the celebrity worship culture can be viewed as a kind of modern pantheon of the gods - no afterlife for todays masses, their heavan lies on earth, and celebrity is it. Celebrities are more attractive, successfull, richer, their life is an endless stream of parties... or so the slack jawed masses are assured by the media. The celebrity bibles that are the tabloids and media in general keep this stoked, because reading about someone who is better than you'll ever be is suerly better than being nothing...
Ms. Loos being boffed by Beckham is kind of the equivelant of Zeus taking the form of a bull, coming out of the sea and diddling a maiden on the beach.
I'm in a strange mood, today...

Davy
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: SSH on Fri 16/04/2004 15:06:13
David who?

Now if Barry Ferguson was cheating on his wife, that would be a story  :P
Title: Re:The BRITISH are crazy
Post by: veryweirdguy on Fri 16/04/2004 15:12:58
Hey, I just realised, for the benefit of SSH & I, shouldn't it be the BRITISH are crazy? :P

EDIT: Oh yeah, & AGA too. The Welsh are awesome, and I wish I were Welsh...
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Flippy_D on Fri 16/04/2004 16:26:47
Tabloids are a damn shame, and should just be burned. I don't think anything has fscked up the national conciousness more.

The Independent is easily the best newspaper in Britain.
Title: Re:The BRITISH are crazy
Post by: Barcik on Fri 16/04/2004 18:28:02
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Fri 16/04/2004 15:12:58
Hey, I just realised, for the benefit of SSH & I, shouldn't it be the BRITISH are crazy? :P

EDIT: Oh yeah, & AGA too. The Welsh are awesome, and I wish I were Welsh...

Are the Scottish similar to the English in this matter? I remember thre Scottish press seemed a lot more serious to me when I was there.


Creed, the celebrity worship culture exists everywhere - in Hollywood, in Israel, and in Beckham's current home - Spain. Yet the Spanish sports press (which sells by the hundreds of thousands a day), which I follow closesly, didn't write anything about Beckham's cheating, or Figo's cooking, or Zidane's singing. It seems that England brings this worship to new extremes, at least on a national level.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: .. on Fri 16/04/2004 18:40:23
I aint Crazy... At least I dont think I am... I mean just becasue i have the occasional conversation with a sparkly elf....

Anyhoo... I'm not sure anybody really believes Rebbeca Loos (or the Sleazy Senorita as the Sun calls her) She says 'Becks bedded me cos he was stuck in a sexless marriage' I suppose thats why hes got two sons and there are currently pregnancy rumors surrounding the Beckhams.

I think the reason people care so much is because David Beckham has a family man image and is somebody people look up too. People must think if his marriage is failing, what hope do we have...

BooHahahahahahah
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Pumaman on Fri 16/04/2004 18:41:57
I really couldn't give a crap about who Beckham has slept with, but there are a lot of people who do. There's a strange fascination with following the lives of celebrities - I suppose a lot of people look to celebrities as role models, and are shocked if 'their Beckham' has been adulterating.

The tabloid press is necessary, though - a lot of people don't want to have to think for themselves, and being told what to think by sensational headlines is at least a good way of giving them an opinion.

The Sun is even credited with throwing the election result in 1992 by basically telling people to vote Conservative.
Title: Re:The BRITISH are crazy
Post by: veryweirdguy on Fri 16/04/2004 20:36:47
Quote from: Barcik on Fri 16/04/2004 18:28:02
Are the Scottish similar to the English in this matter? I remember thre Scottish press seemed a lot more serious to me when I was there.

It's the same papers & stories up here, as far as I know. There are a few Scottish-only papers which are alright in this area, but then again, they aren't tabloids.

There aren't really many differences between Scotland & England, at least not as many as people think. I tend not to think of them as two different countries generally, more as Britain as a whole.

QuoteEDIT: Oh yeah, & AGA too. The Welsh are awesome, and I wish I were Welsh...

Now c'mon AGA, that HAS to be abusing your power a little bit :P. Besides who would believe I actually said THAT?
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Nacho on Fri 16/04/2004 22:14:10
I think that happens everywhere... I hate that press, not for the press itself, because I always have the chance to switch my TV off (I do it when they broadcast that crap), but because if there is people paying that sums to get that interview is because they get profits, ergo, there is a lot of stupid people following that crape, ergo, a lot of people is stupid (or has a sense of amusement that I consider stupid...).

I don't like to see that... Realising your country is full of people who is really interested in the latest bed conquest of a singer/actor/sportman is disturbing...  :P There is a lot of people to be taken as a model by many amazing things, not just that.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Fri 16/04/2004 22:35:19
I stick to the Telegraph- although it's still quite obviously biased towards the Conservatives, there's enough real news in it to make it readable. The Times is much the same. The Guardian and the Independant are acceptable; anything else I'll often pick up in the staff canteen at Safeway's to have a good laugh at ^_^
Title: Re:The BRITISH are crazy
Post by: Pumaman on Fri 16/04/2004 23:15:10
QuoteNow c'mon AGA, that HAS to be abusing your power a little bit :P. Besides who would believe I actually said THAT?

Hehe it's sad really, theI want AGA's lengths AGA will go to to convince himself that it's OK to be Welsh. Oh the insecurities  :P
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Haddas on Fri 16/04/2004 23:42:48
LOL!!!
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Meowster on Sat 17/04/2004 00:00:33
I think it's disgusting. Beckham is a role model to so many young people and it is his responsibility to ensure he remains a good role model. How dare he break the trust placed in him by so many people? How dare he give this message to the world? He ought to be ashamed of himself.

He's better off dead now.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Peter Thomas on Sat 17/04/2004 00:16:49
I hate Beckham. The more he gets in trouble for sleeping with women (whether it's true or not) the better...

I hope he loses his multi-million dollar soccer contract, and all his sponsers turn on him and try to kill him. Won't happen, but hey - who are YOU to stop me from dreaming?
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: MrColossal on Sat 17/04/2004 00:40:01
Is that what Jesus would do, peter?

i don't know if you're serious yufster and i don't care, but why is he a role model? he's just a dude that plays a sport. If I take on some random guy in my neighborhood as my role model it isn't his reponsibility to make sure he does things good so I grow up right... He's just a dude chillen and I'm the one with the problem.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: TheDude on Sat 17/04/2004 00:51:16
Quote from: SSH on Fri 16/04/2004 15:06:13
David who?

Now if Barry Ferguson was cheating on his wife, that would be a story  :P

Who cares! As long as he comes back to Rangers!
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Las Naranjas on Sat 17/04/2004 01:22:40
Strangely enough the rash of tabloids can be partly attributed to Britains size and the fact it industrialised before the rest of the world, meaning that interests could far easily be concentrated in London, for example the National press in Fleet Street, which later makes it easy to come under the control of one body, in this case Big Papa Murdoch.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: on Sat 17/04/2004 03:29:57
Quote from: Farlander on Fri 16/04/2004 22:14:10
a lot of people is stupid

Ah, the irony....  ;D
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Timosity on Sat 17/04/2004 04:13:04
It's quite annoying that these stories are blown so much out of proportion, whether it is true or not is irrelevant.

People come forward with these stories to promote their own career off the back of someone elses.

It's no different if mrs Jones says mr Smith kept sending dirty sms's and couldn't keep his little pinky out of my....

it's just that they're not famous

like the whole Clinton fiasco, it's exactly the same thing, shit, how many people have cheated on their wives or husbands, partners etc, some are higher profile than others but how does that make it any more valid to exploit.

It's all bullshit, I think Beckham learned a few things from Shane Warne, you can send as many sexy sms's as you like, take advantage of your fame and eventually you will still be praised by the people who count (the selectors of your sport)

The only difference is Shane Warne is a Total dickhead, but has still proven himself at the top level of his sport, where Beckham has failed.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Meowster on Sat 17/04/2004 04:37:55
Quote from: MrColossal on Sat 17/04/2004 00:40:01
Is that what Jesus would do, peter?

i don't know if you're serious yufster and i don't care, but why is he a role model? he's just a dude that plays a sport. If I take on some random guy in my neighborhood as my role model it isn't his reponsibility to make sure he does things good so I grow up right... He's just a dude chillen and I'm the one with the problem.

D'ya think I might have been joking, hm?

The post was mocking the attitudes of people who believe such things as mentioned in your post.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: veryweirdguy on Sat 17/04/2004 17:35:33
Quote from: Peter Thomas on Sat 17/04/2004 00:16:49
I hate Beckham. The more he gets in trouble for sleeping with women (whether it's true or not) the better...

I hope he loses his multi-million dollar soccer contract, and all his sponsers turn on him and try to kill him. Won't happen, but hey - who are YOU to stop me from dreaming?

Sorry, but why do you wish this upon him again?

What do you have against Beckham? He does his job - play football - & does it well. I don't understand why so many people hate him so much, before these rumours, did he do anything wrong? Did he offend you in any way by being good at his job?

He is a good football player, but the savages we call the media have to circle around him to strike at the most convenient moment. It's sad how he has to always be in the public eye because of this.
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Nacho on Sat 17/04/2004 18:15:52
yes... I use to use the singular verb form for people...  >:( excuse me mr. perfect!  ;)

(No big deal)
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: .. on Sun 18/04/2004 11:01:22
QuoteI use to use the singular verb form for people
?

:D
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Nacho on Sun 18/04/2004 11:23:36
I say "Is there people?"... whereas the correct should have been "Are there people?"

And Barcik was overjoyed to discover it...  ;D
Title: Re:The English are crazy
Post by: Barcik on Sun 18/04/2004 12:00:18
Well, apperantly he did have an affiar. Although, I wouldn't believe the News of the World if my life depended on it. Bah, who cares.