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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Andail on Thu 22/04/2010 11:15:25

Title: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Andail on Thu 22/04/2010 11:15:25
Finally an extensive AGS survey!

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dEtQTWxCYXpFaTZQSXl6V1FqbEVBanc6MA

Enjoy!

PS:
I will publish the results once 100 or so people have responded.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: on Thu 22/04/2010 11:34:28
Nice one Andail!

edit: but where the hell do I find the spreadsheet with the answers?
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: GarageGothic on Thu 22/04/2010 12:22:06
Quote from: bicilotti on Thu 22/04/2010 11:34:28edit: but where the hell do I find the spreadsheet with the answers?

It's a survey, not a test, bici, no need for cheating  ;D
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Dualnames on Thu 22/04/2010 12:28:22
Great one Andail. When the results are published, please make a sheet/word/ecc, containing all the answers to question 17. I think it'll be totally interesting.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: abstauber on Thu 22/04/2010 12:30:23
Cool, I didn't know gDocs got this far yet. I hope I won't miss the results ;)
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Jim Reed on Thu 22/04/2010 12:31:41
Ditto Dualnames, I would like to see the results, too! Heck, I even signed myself on the bottom there.
Great stuff Andail!
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Questionable on Thu 22/04/2010 14:04:09
I took it! Excited to see the results!


Everyone should check out gDocs, it's been improving month-by-month...
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: DoorKnobHandle on Thu 22/04/2010 14:56:26
Done.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: IndieBoy on Thu 22/04/2010 15:06:44
Done. Although for one of the answers I may have lied, but it is only because recently I've not had the chance to play as many AGS games as I would like to, or have done so in the past.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: ThreeOhFour on Thu 22/04/2010 15:28:33
Some of the bullet points didn't exactly fit with how I'd answer but I tried to answer as close to reality as possible.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Tuomas on Thu 22/04/2010 17:31:53
Quote from: Questionable on Thu 22/04/2010 14:04:09
Everyone should check out gDocs, it's been improving month-by-month...

Though for me it seems to be down. I can't log in :( Earlier today I could. Anyway, filled in the survey.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Ryan Timothy B on Thu 22/04/2010 17:35:38
I've also filled in the survey.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Domino on Thu 22/04/2010 17:59:59
Quote from: Ryan Timothy on Thu 22/04/2010 17:35:38
I've also filled in the survey.

Ditto.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Stupot on Thu 22/04/2010 18:14:57
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Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Ponch on Thu 22/04/2010 19:55:02
Filled out the survey. Nice range of questions. However, with a few of them it was hard to narrow it down to just one answer. Looking forward to seeing the results.

- Ponch
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: OneDollar on Thu 22/04/2010 21:31:21
Done. 6 and 7 were the main ones I wasn't sure about because I'm fine with either plot or puzzles being rubbish as long as the other's really good. Results should be interesting.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Questionable on Fri 23/04/2010 04:03:40
Quote from: Andail on Thu 22/04/2010 11:15:25
I will publish the results once 100 or so people have responded.

Do we have that many active users? =P
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: blueskirt on Fri 23/04/2010 04:33:23
Active forum users, yes. Active forum users that vote, if AGS awards are to be trusted, we don't, or we barely have.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: xenogia on Fri 23/04/2010 04:41:15
I did the survey, just like I did for the AGS awards like I do every year.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Scarab on Fri 23/04/2010 08:17:50
Quote from: Ben304 on Thu 22/04/2010 15:28:33
Some of the bullet points didn't exactly fit with how I'd answer but I tried to answer as close to reality as possible.

I concur with Ben, like the question about art; I felt as though I was limited to being shallow and only appreciating the visuals, or being ungrateful as though I didn't appreciate them at all.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: voh on Fri 23/04/2010 08:52:50
The Genre question was a little weird for me. I would've appreciated an option to show that I'll play any genre, and enjoy it regardless/thanks to whatever genre it is, if it's done well :P

Did it anyway :)
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Andail on Fri 23/04/2010 12:41:52
Allrightie, guess I can reveal the answers so far (but please keep responding), I think many answers are quite unexpected, but judge for yourselves.

Sorry, still trying to sort things out. This is overly complicated for some reason.
Patience!
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: GarageGothic on Fri 23/04/2010 13:27:14
Yay, it works! Excellent, thanks!

LOL at answers. Now someone will have to make a multiplayer/co-op romance game with a sex scene preferably starring naked Andail.

Edit: Can't figure out where the pie charts are - so not sure they work
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Andail on Fri 23/04/2010 13:34:07
Please confirm if you're able to view the pie charts...they're really what makes this worth the hassle...
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Intense Degree on Fri 23/04/2010 13:38:29
Makes very intersting reading so far, good job Andail.  :)

EDIT: The Formular (apologies for lazyness) part is greyed out for me unless i'm looking at the wrong bit...
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Matti on Fri 23/04/2010 13:41:37
Yeah, it's greyed out. Do we have to be logged in or something?
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Andail on Fri 23/04/2010 13:46:46
Ok, un-publishing for some minutes and trying to find out how to publish the finished charts.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Wesray on Fri 23/04/2010 13:58:05
I participated, although additional answer alternatives would have been nice in a few cases.

No pie charts for me either.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Andail on Fri 23/04/2010 14:03:31
Ok, I'm at a loss here, can someone who's more computer savvy try and create a similar document and have the results shareable?
There is a very nice "results" page with nifty pie charts, but for some weird reason I can never share or link to that particular page, I can only share the raw excel sheet.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Stupot on Fri 23/04/2010 14:16:18
Why not take a screencap of the piecharts and ost them here?
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Andail on Fri 23/04/2010 14:31:59
Ok, I've read up on several sites and apparently google docs don't allow users to share a summary of the results yet.


Update:
This is the best solution so far, although it's crap compared to just letting google docs publish the summary.

Here's a doc with pie charts and everything:
http://esseb.com/andail/agschart.doc
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Wyz on Fri 23/04/2010 14:44:56
I filled it out, actually quite informing, I 'score' completely mediocre. ;)
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 23/04/2010 15:20:36
I liked the fact that people have trouble drawing, and most AGS people declare they draw ;D

It's quite explained if you look it closely though. Anyway, really really nice results there!
Where are the answers to question 17?
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Calin Leafshade on Fri 23/04/2010 16:04:00
One thing I find interesting is that alot of people said they didnt find dialogue writing to be the most difficult part.

But i think dialogue is practically always the weakest point of AGS games (which a few notable exceptions, Blackwell, Trilby, Downfall (to some degree))
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Babar on Fri 23/04/2010 16:09:10
Turns out I´m a fairly average AGSer. Wooh!

I guess the dialogue thing is that very few people see the need to expand on that. Most people don´t expect more than "It is a door" "It is a key" "I will give you the key if you buy me get me a sandwich", and when they get more, it is a treat- considered something extra.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: kaputtnik on Fri 23/04/2010 16:25:39
That's because everybody can write and make it look like dialogs. If I script some nonsense, the game won't work. If I write up some flimsy lines for my shallow characters, there is no debugger to stop me.

On another note: Also completed the survey and liked Science Fiction the most this time!


Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Fri 23/04/2010 16:04:00
One thing I find interesting is that alot of people said they didnt find dialogue writing to be the most difficult part.

But i think dialogue is practically always the weakest point of AGS games (which a few notable exceptions, Blackwell, Trilby, Downfall (to some degree))
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Wesray on Fri 23/04/2010 16:26:17
The reason why dialog can be hard for me is that I'm not a native English speaker. Otherwise it's not so bad. But I can't do music to save my life, so I chose that option. Of course I'm also weak when it comes to drawing, not that I let that stop me. ;D

All in all I'm also an average AGSer.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Igor Hardy on Fri 23/04/2010 18:13:03
I'm curious who is that one person that plays AGS games everyday. Is that you, Dual?
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 23/04/2010 18:20:20
Quote from: Ascovel on Fri 23/04/2010 18:13:03
I'm curious who is that one person that plays AGS games everyday. Is that you, Dual?

HEY! But no. I just voted for the second option on that question.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Questionable on Fri 23/04/2010 18:28:06
Quote from: Ascovel on Fri 23/04/2010 18:13:03
I'm curious who is that one person that plays AGS games everyday. Is that you, Dual?

I didn't even notice that! LOL!

Somebody has some free time...
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: Igor Hardy on Fri 23/04/2010 18:39:35
Quote from: Questionable on Fri 23/04/2010 18:28:06
Somebody has some free time...

More like it's the only true dedicated AGSer.
Title: Re: The Great New AGS Survey
Post by: tzachs on Fri 23/04/2010 18:41:49
I bet it's c.leksutin...