After a long and deep discussion with Tuomas about chocolate milk and hot chocolate, I decided to post this here to hear what you have to say on the subject.
Today, I recieved a parcel from the old ones with some sorely needed supplies from the old country including my favourite chips, my headset and, just that, chocolate milk powder. In my ecstacy I told Tuomas about my newly arrived late night pleasures, but he responded; "hot chocolate? they must have it, i've seen it on telly so many times :)". That's what I reacted to.
Is hot chocolate powder thingy and chocolate milk powder thingy the same thing? They both carry the golden taste of chocolate and they both have the same powdery form.
I would guess that, if you have two products side by side with those names, the hot chocolate powder is simply cocoa and who knows what other stuff, that you're supposed to mix with milk. Chocolate milk powder would then be the same cocoa-and-stuff, with the added ingredient of powdered milk, which you're supposed to mix with water, ending up with much the same stuff.
I don't really know, though, and I don't have time to do geek-research on it right now.
mm'mm hot chocolate.
But indeed. The way I see it, I take a glass and up cup from the cupboard. Then I pour milk into both of them. Most preferrably not lo-fat milk, but the true stuff. Then I draw a teaspoon and a bag of choco powder. I spoon 4-5 spoonfuls of chocofied spoonage from the chocobag and apply them with both milk glassycups. That makes 8-10 spoonfuls of spoonage together. Then I mix and twirl and twist and shout, c'mon baby yeah! (shouting is optional though). And here's the difference. If I want it hot like Meryl Streep on her young days, I put it in the hotbox, or microwave if you wish, and heat it up. That's hot chocolate. Otherwise I just drink it fromt heglass. That's the beauty of a galss and a cup!
But do they sell that powder there? People talk about hot chocolate, but what about the cold one? Just as good imo.
Quote from: EldKatt on Thu 08/11/2007 13:19:44
which you're supposed to mix with water
What on earth? Are you mixing your chocolate
milk powder with water?!
Umm, what? That's like making milk by adding milk powder to water O_O
Quote from: Tuomas on Thu 08/11/2007 13:22:46
But do they sell that powder there? People talk about hot chocolate, but what about the cold one? Just as good imo.
Indeed! The cold chocolate is just as yummy as the hot one and it is a shame if the English aren't allowed this pleasure!
But Tuomas, why can't you put the glass in the hotbox?
Quote from: vict0r on Thu 08/11/2007 13:24:13
What on earth? Are you mixing your chocolate milk powder with water?!
Well, do you mix hot chocolate powder with chocolate?
Well I have experience of exploding rice pies and stuff. My mom told me never to put glass int he microwave, but I once did by accident put a rice pie with cheese on into it and it was on a glassplate. Well the plate went to pieces with bangs. And i don't want my hot chocolate to be all over the box. That and there's no handle on the glass, so it would be hard to move it about or drink while it's hot, hence my preferance for cups and mugs! :)
I've always been told similar things about heating glass. That's why the exotic, continental habit of drinking coffee from a glass shocked me greatly!
Quote from: EldKatt on Thu 08/11/2007 13:35:24
Quote from: vict0r on Thu 08/11/2007 13:24:13
What on earth? Are you mixing your chocolate milk powder with water?!
Well, do you mix hot chocolate powder with chocolate?
Erm... No...? That would be quite meaningless, wouldn't it, mixing chocolate with chocolate..? I mix it with milk! Same as cold chocolate milk. I mix it with milk..!
As for glass in the micro, I can't really see how it'll explode. In fact, in our micro, there is a glass plate for you to put your stuff on that spins around like a little carousel!
It's special glass, take a look at it. They have that in certain places just for that, though it's really heavy and not practical for plate-use etc.
Yes, I think hot chocolate powdery stuff and chocolate milk powdery stuff is just the same thing. But then there's also the cocoa powder which is that bittery stuff that only freaks who like Dark chocolate like. I prefer my chocolate milk cold and mixed with milk, even when the powder contains milk powder. Maybe adding milk powder to milk makes it supermilk?
edit: Oh, and I sometimes open up a fresh can of milk and add the chocolately powdery stuff in it and then just shake and stir. Then I can keep the can in the fridge and have a nice glass of cold chocolate milk when I want without all the hassle with the powder (some of it usually ends up on the table).
Oh oh ooh. I just orgasmed thinking of that. What a splendid idea! I'll never drink plain milk again! Love to you Zabbyding
But wouldn't that require that you loose at least some of the milk before adding the powder, to avoid the milk flowing over..?
OT I know... but.. Tuomas, you are particularly amusing today. Your first post especially made me laugh.
How could I leave that unreplied? Oh yeah, it's OT, so I must. Sry, but you're a sweet-talker you ;) Also, if that is true, then I've reached my goal for today, I'll buy the horsehead and the samovar later (this is something only Vict0r will understand, but by time you all will ;)) I'm off to eat some chocolate-kebab. See you in a fiver!
Quote from: Tuomas on Thu 08/11/2007 15:00:35
How could I leave that unreplied? Oh yeah, it's OT, so I must. Sry, but you're a sweet-talker you ;) Also, if that is true, then I've reached my goal for today, I'll buy the horsehead and the samovar later (this is something only Vict0r will understand, but by time you all will ;)) I'm off to eat some chocolate-kebab. See you in a fiver!
Goal for today, yes... But we have much greater plans! In 10 years or so, you'll all find him in every history book and you'll all recall his name... Forever!!
Quote from: vict0r on Thu 08/11/2007 13:11:06
Is hot chocolate powder thingy and chocolate milk powder thingy the same thing? They both carry the golden taste of chocolate and they both have the same powdery form.
Depends on the brand.
There's the kind you mix with milk, the kind you mix with water, and the kind you mix with water but includes powdered milk.
There's the kind with a lot of cocoa, and the kind with less.
* EldKatt wins.
QuoteIs hot chocolate powder thingy and chocolate milk powder thingy the same thing?
No, chocolate milk powder is made to be dissolved in cold milk while hot chocolate powder is made to be dissolved in hot water. And while it's possible to make an hot chocolate with chocolate milk powder (although the taste will greatly differ), it's not possible to make chocolate milk with hot chocolate powder, the powder will remain at the top of the milk and stick together rather than getting dissolved.
Your knowledge within the art of chocolate milk is exceptional! But what about the hot chocolate powder that is made to be dissolved in hot milk? Would that mix with cold milk as well?
Blueskirt's reply made my head hurt :(
So is the hot-cold powder thing a chemical mixing thing or something? What would happen if I mixed cold powder into hot milk or water? Or the other way around.
And Eldkatt might be a winner, but we have the moral victory... you pagan ¬¬
This is getting way too complicated ::)
If I need a break from my usual hardly-liquid-nearly-pure-caffeine-drink-diet, I usually use a machine for making hot chocolate. All it needs is some water and two ridiculously priced plastic thingamajiggies (a brown and a white one) containing some sort of magical substance that turns into tasty drinkable chocolate under the influence of hot water. And a lot of noise, as it were.
errr... you sure sure you're not just talking about chocolate Nesquik?
Quote from: Akatosh on Thu 08/11/2007 18:11:38
If I need a break from my usual hardly-liquid-nearly-pure-caffeine-drink-diet, I usually use a machine for making hot chocolate. All it needs is some water and two ridiculously priced plastic thingamajiggies (a brown and a white one) containing some sort of magical substance that turns into tasty drinkable chocolate under the influence of hot water. And a lot of noise, as it were.
Yeah, a restaurant I worked at once had that thingy, only with coffee. It's extremely noisy though!
Quote from: Tuomas on Thu 08/11/2007 17:55:39
Blueskirt's reply made my head hurt :(
Alright, let's simplify it a bit. From my personal experience:
Hot Chocolate Powder + Hot Water = Hot Chocolate (Good)
Chocolate Milk Powder + Cold Milk = Chocolate Milk (Good)
Chocolate Milk Powder + Hot Water = Hot Chocolate with weird taste (Not good)
Hot Chocolate Powder + Cold Milk = Milk with chocolate powder floating on top (Not good)
I never tried with hot milk, so I have no idea what it would result with.
QuoteBut what about the hot chocolate powder that is made to be dissolved in hot milk? Would that mix with cold milk as well?
I suppose the dissolving is linked to the temperature rather than the substance it is dissolved in, but there's only one way to find out, to the Fat-Cave!
I find that Hershey's Chocolate Syrup works best to make chocolate milk. It stirs in evenly and doesn't leave any globs of powder at the bottom.
Quote from: Domino on Fri 09/11/2007 00:18:15
I find that Hershey's Chocolate Syrup works best to make chocolate milk. It stirs in evenly and doesn't leave any globs of powder at the bottom.
Agreed. Delicious. Though I think I've developed an intolerance to milk by drinking waaaay too much milk for the last few weeks. :(
Is it just me, or is the powder that you stir in FAR superior to the boxes and bottles of chocolate milk that you purchase pre mixed?
Chocolate milk in a container that is premixed always disappoints me - I've only ever had one that I liked, and that was diet chocolate milk - even though I usually hate diet food. I think the milk flavour was so weak that the chocolate flavour came through better.
Nesquik appears to be far superior flavour wise.
Quote from: Ben304 on Fri 09/11/2007 00:58:57
Is it just me, or is the powder that you stir in FAR superior to the boxes and bottles of chocolate milk that you purchase pre mixed?
It's not just you. I've never liked any of the chocolate milk shit you get in bottles or cartons.
How about Yoo-Hoo. I think that is chocolate flavored water. Not 100 percent sure though.
edit (ingredients): Ingredients: Water, dairy whey, high fructose corn syrup and/or sugar, non-fat ilk, cornsyrup solids, cocoa processed with potassium carbonate, soybean oil (partially hydrogenated), sodium caseinate, salt, tricalcium phosphate, dipotassium phosphate, xanthan gum, guar gum, mono and di glycerides, vanillan, lecithin, calcium ascorbate, natural flavor, vitamin A palmitate, niacinamide, vitamin D, riboflavin.
Now doesn't that sound delicious. :)
Vict0r - Ah ha! I KNEW I couldn't be alone in this case. How do the companies manage to keep selling that stuff when it's obvious it is so bad? I'd rather take my own tin of powder and buy plain milk at the store when I'm thirsty and mix it in.
In fact.... (considers taking tin of chocolate powder everywhere)
Domino - Nope, I can't say I've ever had it. Damn, there be a lot of things in that. But chocolate flavoured water? I cannot imagine enjoying such a thing!
I'm addicted to Nescafé's Cappuccino Powder. I think I drink about ten cups a day... :-\
It's supposed to be mixed with hot water since it contains milk powder.
An ex-girlfriend used to mix it with hot milk. The taste wasn't too weird (milk is 85% water), but the consistency was.
I only drink canned chocolate milk. There's some kind of manufactured goodness in it that you will never accomplish by mixing in the powder yourself.
When I was a kid I'd drink:
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Now I drink:
(http://www.goodness.co.uk/thumbnail/401657.jpg)
Which is chocolate Soya milk but it's tastes way nicer than you'd think.
Also nice:
(http://www.marsdrinks.com/images/products/px_drinks_mars.jpg)
*This post has not been sponsered by Yazoo, Mars or Alpro.
Ah, the chocolate obsession ::) I just eat a spoon of Kaba chocolate mild powder per day and cut out the middle man (or, in this case, cow).
Quote from: ManicMatt on Fri 09/11/2007 23:08:58
Which is chocolate Soya milk but it's tastes way nicer than you'd think.
Man, when I was a kid, I used to LOVE the taste of Soya milk! I haven't had any for ages though....
...maybe I should go and get some to see if it is as good as I remember it. Unfortunately I fear it will just be me remembering things prettier than they really were again, and will destroy one more fond childhood memory.
Oh, the dilemma!
And now, you'll never know... Ever!
For pure liquid chocolate heaven:
(http://www.dccommercial.co.uk/images/products_frijj.gif)