Ã, Yes, you might have known that it is the school reports day in Turkey as I have told it a few times in the #AGS IRC chat room.Ã, We would get our school reports today, and I wouldn't be able to see the girl, who I'm fond of, and in the side class, for 3 months. So I had been thinking of saying to her "Good Holidays!" before she goes...
Ã, Ã, She was standing in the school garden with her friends while waiting for the SR's (School Report) when I came the school. She glanced at me for several times. Nothing interesting happened.
Ã, Ã, Then we got the SR's. My SR was good :) I had rised the marks which were low, and I got an "appreciation document"; it is given to the students who gets high marksÃ, 8) . My average mark was 4,66 and the highest is 5.00. Everyone said it was very good :)
Ã, Ã, Could I speak to her? NO! :( Let me tell:
Ã, Ã, We kept standing after the SR's. Then, two girls who are my classmates went to talk to her, because they were her friends. I followed them :) My classmates started talking to her; she glanced at me for a second. Then another girl, who is her classmate, and my friend from the school bus appered. I would say to my friend "Good Holidays!"; and maybe to that girl, too. But guess what happened: SOMEBODY THROWED A ROTTEN EGG TOWARDS THE CROWD WHICH WE ARE INSIDE!Ã, :o :(Ã, :-\ ! A girls hair became the egg yellow, and everyone started escaping :). So I could do nothing for the SR day >:(
Ã, Ã, Yeah, I know it's too long. But I need to share this.
Dude... you didn't ask her out?! What did everyone say you should do in #ags... just ask her out politely and if she said no, or already had a boyfriend... then at least you'd have the satisfaction that you tried.
I say you ask one of your friends, or one of her friends for her number and try that way. Dude, you gotta be firm and not a spongey like dude (i don't know what i'm going on about with this, i'm tired) but dude... you'll regret it if you don't do it... trust me. :-\
Ultimo is right, it's not like it's too late just because school's over.
If you have friends who know her, just ask for her number and give her a call. If you get rejected, just leave it behind you and proceed to next target :)
The joys of teenage angst...
When I was a young warthog guy, I used to be sooo afraid of asking girls out, thinking that they would automatically and instantaneously tell the whole school who would subsequently laugh at me. In the end a girl askewd me out and I was so stunned I went out with her for a while even though I didn't really like her.
At University (at which point I was only 16, folks) I went to the other extreme and asked loads of girls out all of whom turned me down. I set my sights lower and lower and then asked a girl out who I didn't have much in common with and didn't like that much. She said yes and we wnet out for a while, but I didn't really respect her and that wasn't fair on either of us. My early twenties after Uni were also angst-ridden and generally loveless years, too.
Eventually, after never really having a serious relationship with any girl, I met the gorgeous lady who is now my wife. I would never have imagined it as a teenager. So, don't get worked up about it: only once you reach 30 and haven't had a serious relationship should you start to worry.
Quote from: SSH on Tue 15/06/2004 13:57:10
The joys of teenage angst...
When I was a young warthog guy, I used to be sooo afraid of asking girls out, thinking that they would automatically and instantaneously tell the whole school who would subsequently laugh at me. In the end a girl askewd me out and I was so stunned I went out with her for a while even though I didn't really like her.
At University (at which point I was only 16, folks) I went to the other extreme and asked loads of girls out all of whom turned me down. I set my sights lower and lower and then asked a girl out who I didn't have much in common with and didn't like that much. She said yes and we wnet out for a while, but I didn't really respect her and that wasn't fair on either of us. My early twenties after Uni were also angst-ridden and generally loveless years, too.
Eventually, after never really having a serious relationship with any girl, I met the gorgeous lady who is now my wife. I would never have imagined it as a teenager. So, don't get worked up about it: only once you reach 30 and haven't had a serious relationship should you start to worry.
I was the same way.Ã, In high school, I actually would occasionally get enough courage to ask girls to school dances, but I was always so incredibly shy that I wouldn't even talk to my date, forever damaging what granule of friendship I had with them before.Ã, Other than the school dances which were usually kind of stupid anyway, I never went on a traditional date until I was in college, when I started opening up to people a little bit, but those usually ended up being duds, too.Ã, My relationship with my wife was the first serious relationship I ever had.Ã, We really clicked in an inexplicably marvelous way, and we got married six months after we met.
One thing I wish I had realized back when I was a teenager is that there really is no conspiracy.Ã, Nobody is gossiping about you behind your back, and girls aren't giggling and making fun of you when you're not around...nobody really cares about you. :)Ã, Chances are that you have more friends than you realize, and that people generally like you and would love to get to know you better.
Gord, just ask the girl out.Ã, Do more than just say, "Good Holidays!"Ã, If you really like her, I think you should ask her out on a date.Ã, If she's interested in you, she'll say yes.
Let me use this thread to announce that I've passed my degree...
And... yes, it is ALLWAYS better to receive a definitive "no" than living in a permanent "maybe" (and you have allways have the chance to receive a "yes")
Do what Andail and Ultimo say, or else you're gonna end up like Charlie Brown always chasing that little red-haired girl.
Wasn't Charlie Brown gay?! But still yeah, don't turn into Charlie Brown... :P
Quote from: DGMacphee on Tue 15/06/2004 15:00:54
Do what Andail and Ultimo say, or else you're gonna end up like Charlie Brown always chasing that little red-haired girl.
...but don't be too persistant or you'll end up like Schroeder (the piano playing dude) and Lucy.
Quote from: Os à šltimo Quão Queijo ^_^ on Tue 15/06/2004 21:32:04
Wasn't Charlie Brown gay?! But still yeah, don't turn into Charlie Brown... :P
No, Charlie wasn't gay; Marcie was.
I know how you feel, dude. I never ask girls out.
There's nothing to be afraid of really. I bet girls are just as afraid to ask guys out.
"Do what Andail and Os à šltimo said"... Come on, I advised him to ask her out too, I want to be popular also! ;)
J/K... About what Dart said... Being persisteng can work, but just in very special circumstances, I agree that it's better not to be it.
In ocasions, it is even effective just to make the opposite and show lack of interest... It's allways tricky and difficult to explain, so, keep us informed.
P.S: To all the girls... Why do you allways preffer the bad guy who is definitelly not in love with you than to the lovely enamoured guy???
Quote from: Farlander on Tue 15/06/2004 23:24:30P.S: To all the girls... Why do you allways preffer the bad guy who is definitelly not in love with you than to the lovely enamoured guy???
It's probably for the same reason guys like the stereotypical busty blonde chick with nothing in common. If you say, "but I'm a guy and that's not me!" well congratulations, you've just realized the flaw in stereotyping.Ã, :)
I've known many beautiful women who went for the geek who had few friends in school.
Quote from: Farlander on Tue 15/06/2004 23:24:30
the bad guy who is definitelly not in love with you
Heh, that describes Nathan (my boyfriend) when we first met each other. But the feeling was mutual; we both had grudges against each other because he hated my former boyfriend and I just hated his attitude.
Anyway, not all girls like the "dark and handsome stranger" type of dude. In fact, most of the preps at my school prefer to go out with the friendly, popular jocks who'll admit that they like them, rather than the mean punk at the back of the class.
I guess the girls that
do like the bad guys will only like them because they want a challenge. They all want to be the first girl to get underneath that dark boy's mysterious exterior and brag to their friends that they did it.
Quote from: Dart on Tue 15/06/2004 23:45:41
I guess the girls that do like the bad guys will only like them because they want a challenge. They all want to be the first girl to get underneath that dark boy's mysterious exterior and brag to their friends that they did it.
And when they find out it's hollow? :D
Nobody likes the fat dude though... I think. I've got some strange hints at school, but I couldn't gather the courage to ask "what do you mean" or anything. Bah, I'm moving to a new school this autumn. I'll probably never see her again ever... ever... ever... ever... ever... ever... ever...... *SIGH*
Quote from: shbazjinkens on Tue 15/06/2004 23:51:15
And when they find out it's hollow?Ã, :D
... then they'll try to fill it up. :P
Quote from: Haddas on Tue 15/06/2004 23:51:56
Nobody likes the fat dude though... I think. I've got some strange hints at school, but I couldn't gather the courage to ask "what do you mean" or anything. Bah, I'm moving to a new school this autumn. I'll probably never see her again ever... ever... ever... ever... ever... ever... ever...... *SIGH*
I have a friend who is a few years older than me, hott (with two t's) and she married a hugely fat guy. He's a swell guy, and she saw through all of the fat to see that, I can think of two other people like that.
The girls who wouldn't are people I wouldn't like anyway.
Quote... then they'll try to fill it up.
A lesson in futility. ;)
Quote from: shbazjinkens on Wed 16/06/2004 00:06:56
Quote... then they'll try to fill it up.
A lesson in futility.
Or fertility...
WINK WINK!
Gord - I know exactly how you feel. People say "ask her out", but in High-School, there's a lot of "pressure" surrounding the whole boyfriend girlfriend paradigm. But at least say "Happy Holidays" or whatnot.
You keep mentioning that she looked at you - I don't know if that means she IS interested in you, or if you are just trying to convince yourself that she is (;)), but you are absolutely INSANE to ignore a girl who is interested in you (trust me - she WILL think you are ignoring her) and then she'll move on to that tall dark handsome guy behind you and end up having his kids and they'll be really successful and have lots of money and a nice house and car and... okay... maybe I'm bitter...
Just tell your friends that you are going to have a holiday party or something, and invite her along, too. If she doesn't like you, she'll say "no", but won't directly know that you liked her, and if she says "yes" then at least she'll be at your house (or at the movies, wherever) so you can talk to her some more.
But once you go to college/uni/apprenticeship, those things become less important. You realise - as has been said - that people DON'T really care whether you asked them out or not, and they're not going to write it on the toilet walls :D
Good luck with your holiday "hunting" ;)
Everytime there's a thread like this, I always read of the "Bad Boy" attraction factor.
Someday I'd actually like to see such a mysterious phenomena.
Surely people aren't confusing it with those boys that have enough damn confidence to tune the girl.
By and large, the most attractive thing you can do is show you're attracted.
...within limits...
Quote from: Dart on Tue 15/06/2004 23:45:41
Anyway, not all girls like the "dark and handsome stranger" type of dude. In fact, most of the preps at my school prefer to go out with the friendly, popular jocks who'll admit that they like them, rather than the mean punk at the back of the class.
I guess the girls that do like the bad guys will only like them because they want a challenge. They all want to be the first girl to get underneath that dark boy's mysterious exterior and brag to their friends that they did it.
thanks, you just destroyed all my fucking illusions....
Quote from: Haddas on Tue 15/06/2004 23:51:56
Nobody likes the fat dude though... I think. I've got some strange hints at school, but I couldn't gather the courage to ask "what do you mean" or anything. Bah, I'm moving to a new school this autumn. I'll probably never see her again ever... ever... ever... ever... ever... ever... ever...... *SIGH*
Dude,
I'm a big dude myself, and last year, I had a strange thing. I dated a really hot girl, I mean - she was really into me. And you know what?!?!!?!!?
It sucked.
She was mentally obsessive over everthing I did, good and bad, she lacked self-confidence, and I've had more fun making out with a couch than her. So, on both sides of the cube, looks aren't everything, and if you're a cool person, someone digs you.
Bt
Be a honest, great, funny guy and they will come to you. Trust me. The ones you will love the most will find you.
Quote from: Blackthorne519 on Wed 16/06/2004 02:12:41and I've had more fun making out with a couch than her.
Do you make out with the couch often?
Quote from: Evil on Wed 16/06/2004 04:14:58
Be a honest, great, funny guy and they will come to you. Trust me. The ones you will love the most will find you.
No offense, but 14 year-olds typically don't have a clue when it comes to to adolescent romance. It's usually only when adults look back on their teenage years that they realize what they should've done differently.Ã, We old folks have more insight into these things and more wisdom to impart than you young whippersnappers do.
Quote from: Blackthorne519 on Wed 16/06/2004 02:12:41and I've had more fun making out with a couch than her.
I wish I could make out with a couch... but it turned me down long ago. :'(
Quote from: Migs on Wed 16/06/2004 04:20:52Quote from: Evil on Wed 16/06/2004 04:14:58
Be a honest, great, funny guy and they will come to you. Trust me. The ones you will love the most will find you.
No offense, but 14 year-olds typically don't have a clue when it comes to to adolescent romance.Ã, It's usually only when adults look back on their teenage years that they realize what they should've done differently.Ã, We old folks have more insight into these things and more wisdom to impart than you young whippersnappers do.
Migs, WTF. Evil is a ladies man, and he can impart all the advice to me that he so desires.
(http://www.fbc-bettendorf.com/evil/crap/abbykiss.gif)
Is evil the one on the right? In that case... he is a lady man... :-\
Quote from: shbazjinkens on Wed 16/06/2004 04:46:51
Quote from: Migs on Wed 16/06/2004 04:20:52No offense, but 14 year-olds typically don't have a clue when it comes to to adolescent romance.Ã, It's usually only when adults look back on their teenage years that they realize what they should've done differently.Ã, We old folks have more insight into these things and more wisdom to impart than you young whippersnappers do.
Migs, WTF. Evil is a ladies man, and he can impart all the advice to me that he so desires.
Oh please.Ã, 14 year-old boys and girls are so hormonally charged they contaminate the air with testosterone and estrogen.Ã, The vast majority of people Evil's age aren't lucky enough to be "smooth with the ladies."Ã, Adolescence is a time of sexual awkwardness, confusion, frustration, and downright anger.Ã, Gord is a down-to-earth adolescent.Ã, What he needs is
not advice from a "ladies' man" like Evil, but other down-to-earth people who've been there before and have good ideas on how to deal with the situation.
Quote from: Migs on Wed 16/06/2004 05:04:15
Oh please.Ã, 14 year-old boys and girls are so hormonally charged they contaminate the air with testosterone and estrogen.Ã, The vast majority of people Evil's age aren't lucky enough to be "smooth with the ladies."Ã, Adolescence is a time of sexual awkwardness, confusion, frustration, and downright anger.Ã, Gord is a down-to-earth adolescent.Ã, What he needs is not advice from a "ladies' man" like Evil, but other down-to-earth people who've been there before and have good ideas on how to deal with the situation.
Migs, I agree with you about 14 year old boys, but I think everyone's opinions on love and dating are valid, even if they're wrong or haven't had the experience older folks have.
And By The Way, yeah, I HAVE made out with a couch. I'm not ashamed, but slightly embarresed.
Quote from: Las Naranjas on Wed 16/06/2004 00:49:14
Everytime there's a thread like this, I always read of the "Bad Boy" attraction factor.
[...]
By and large, the most attractive thing you can do is show you're attracted.
Both phenomena are linked... Girls go with the bad boy because he usually does not show interest, so, in many times and IMO opinion and by my experience, no... showing you're attracted is not the best thing you can do.
It happens specially with the populars girls, who have around a lot of people disposed to love her. They've been told "I love you" so many times, that they're really not interested in listening it again. In that cases, as Mario, my teacher in love affaires said "It is better to make her know that you like smelling your own farts than showing interest over her".
And it's true... Here is were the phenomena of where a girl falls in love with the dark/dangerous/not-interester-in-her guy.
Ã, Ã, Hey, I couldn't guess this topic would be 2 pages in a day :)
Ã, Ã, I still don't think I should ask her out. IMO I should get close to her and gain her friendship first.
Ã, Ã, We've talked three times by now. In first time, I was sitting in the canteen of the school alone, and she asked me if a seat was empty and I said yes (no, she didn't sit by me; just took the chair to her table where her friends were :)Ã, ). The second time, she collided me while walking and said pardon. The third one is more different: I would give somebody who is in her class a floopy disc for the Geography Club in the school. I went their classroom, and asked somebody in front of the door if the boy who I'd give the disc was there. Then, she appeared and said "He isn't in the classroom now. I can give the disc to him for you, if you want.". I gave the disc to her and said "OK, thank you :)"
Ã, Ã, I don't know why I told it. I felt like that I should write these, because it could help people to give me ideas.
By the way, what is "dude" :) ? I've heard this word before a few times, but couldn't find the meaning in dictionaries.
As far as I know, dude is like "guy" or "man" or "buddy"... It's a friendly expression.
Quote from: Dart on Tue 15/06/2004 23:53:57
Quote from: shbazjinkens on Tue 15/06/2004 23:51:15
And when they find out it's hollow? :D
... then they'll try to fill it up. :P
That reminds me of a joke... a woman has three things on her mind when she gets married:
Aisle
Altar
Hymn
(say it out loud...)
Quote from: Gord10 on Wed 16/06/2004 11:42:16
Hey, I couldn't guess this topic would be 2 pages in a day :)
I still don't think I should ask her out. IMO I should get close to her and gain her friendship first.
We've talked three times by now. In first time, I was sitting in the canteen of the school alone, and she asked me if a seat was empty and I said yes (no, she didn't sit by me; just took the chair to her table where her friends were :) ). The second time, she collided me while walking and said pardon. The third one is more different: I would give somebody who is in her class a floopy disc for the Geography Club in the school. I went their classroom, and asked somebody in front of the door if the boy who I'd give the disc was there. Then, she appeared and said "He isn't in the classroom now. I can give the disc to him for you, if you want.". I gave the disc to her and said "OK, thank you :)"
I don't know why I told it. I felt like that I should write these, because it could help people to give me ideas.
By the way, what is "dude" :) ? I've heard this word before a few times, but couldn't find the meaning in dictionaries.
becoming friends is the very worst thing you can do! Believe me! I had this gf 2 years ago, everything sucked and in the end our relationship broke up and we hated each other... But she had this friend, I already knew for a long time, and I really liked her a lot. So I started hang out with her and we became good friend, BUT that bastard of an ex-gf became jealous, because I was hanging out with her friend, so she made her stop seing me...
By now I think I shouldn't have tried to become friends with that girl, but I should have told her from the begining what I felt for her, maybe than everything would've become differnent.
So what I was going to say, don't let the relationship between you and that girl become to complicated. Just do something! I know it's not easy - trust me I know your situation, and believe all the time it ended, that someone else got her (mainly the stupid, but sportive guy...)
Yes.. Don't listen to Harry.. He's not any of those things. He's an incompetent, egotistical pothead kid person who just happens to be so fucking cute. He doesn't do anything emotionally to attract the ladies. He just sits there, smiles, and maybe flirts.. :-p Damn asshole gets all the ladies.
(btw, I'm just jealous of him.)
Anyways.. My advice.. Is just walk up to her and talk to her directly. You don't necessarily have to become her best friend before you date her.. That's really not a good idea. Just arrange some way that you two could go see a movie together (with friends, would be good as a starter) or go out for some lunch or dinner or something. Talk to her, subtley ask questions to know more about her.. Use this knowledge to impress her and make you look more charming and stuff. But be yourself. Don't fake emotions just to win her over.. That won't work either.. Because she'll be able to tell, or she'll find out your true self if you stick together long enough.
Just go for it.
I can tell you from my many many many failed attempts, that keeping it bottled up inside or tiptoeing around it all is not the best thing to do. I always end up falling in love with some girl.. Dropping hints I like her, talking to her.. And then I write fucking NOTES to explain my feelings.. I'm such a wuss I can't just talk to them like a normal person. And then eventually I muck something up and everything goes down hill and I lose a friend.
And just to show the impact of this way of acting.. I've never been kissed or done anything remotely sexual with a girl in my life.. Except for maybe stupid dares or "accidents". I also am a bit hefty, if you couldn't tell.. But I try not to tell myself that's the ONLY reason girls won't date me..
Cause sometimes I can come off as an obnoxious, annoying jerk..
So yea.. Just go for it. Don't over analyze it.. If she says no, it's not the end of the world. And like everyone's said.. Nobody will talk about it.. No-one ever cares or talks about you nearly as much as you think they do.
So, again, for the third time.. Just GO FOR IT.
Quote from: Blackthorne519 on Wed 16/06/2004 06:38:26Migs, I agree with you about 14 year old boys, but I think everyone's opinions on love and dating are valid, even if they're wrong or haven't had the experience older folks have.
I'm not saying his opinions are invalid or anything, I'm just suggesting that Gord needs more straightforward advice on how to relate to women. A minority of guys are lucky enough to be smooth with the girls, but I don't think they really understand
why they are. They're just being themselves, after all.
Quote from: kl4Uz on Wed 16/06/2004 14:02:23
Quote from: Gord10 on Wed 16/06/2004 11:42:16
Ã, Ã, Hey, I couldn't guess this topic would be 2 pages in a day :)
Ã, Ã, I still don't think I should ask her out. IMO I should get close to her and gain her friendship first.
Ã, Ã, We've talked three times by now. In first time, I was sitting in the canteen of the school alone, and she asked me if a seat was empty and I said yes (no, she didn't sit by me; just took the chair to her table where her friends were :)Ã, ). The second time, she collided me while walking and said pardon. The third one is more different: I would give somebody who is in her class a floopy disc for the Geography Club in the school. I went their classroom, and asked somebody in front of the door if the boy who I'd give the disc was there. Then, she appeared and said "He isn't in the classroom now. I can give the disc to him for you, if you want.". I gave the disc to her and said "OK, thank you :)"
Ã, Ã, I don't know why I told it. I felt like that I should write these, because it could help people to give me ideas.
Ã, Ã, By the way, what is "dude" :) ? I've heard this word before a few times, but couldn't find the meaning in dictionaries.
becoming friends is the very worst thing you can do! Believe me! I had this gf 2 years ago, everything sucked and in the end our relationship broke up and we hated each other... But she had this friend, I already knew for a long time, and I really liked her a lot. So I started hang out with her and we became good friend, BUT that bastard of an ex-gf became jealous, because I was hanging out with her friend, so she made her stop seing me...
By now I think I shouldn't have tried to become friends with that girl, but I should have told her from the begining what I felt for her, maybe than everything would've become differnent.
So what I was going to say, don't let the relationship between you and that girl become to complicated. Just do something! I know it's not easy - trust me I know your situation, and believe all the time it ended, that someone else got her (mainly the stupid, but sportive guy...)
I'm not sure becoming friends is the worst thing you can do, and I think you're jumping way ahead of yourself, kl4Uz. It does seem like a good, practical approach, and becoming friends first is often what girls want. After all, she might not want to go on a date with you if she doesn't know a little bit more about what you're like. You don't have to become
best friends with her, or hang out with her or anything before asking her out. Gord, I think it's obvious she's at least willing to talk to you, which is a good sign, but it's really difficult to tell anything without knowing more about her. Just become cordial acquaintances, so that you can carry on a 5-minute conversation, and then if you have any slight inclination she might be interested in you, kick it up a notch.
LGM, just writing the things you wrote proves you've got some guts, at least! I'm sure that kind of honesty will be very appreciated by other...less experienced... young ones in our community.
Kudos to the Little Gryphon Master!
I myself, despite an impression I've understood some people have of me here, am not really a ladies man.
I was pretty early (I was an active kid), and sure, I date regularly and have pretty good self-confidence (and record) when it comes to picking up women in clubs or bars. But I don't have the classic good looks that make women notice me unless I approach them, talk to them, dance with them or play romantic ballads on the guitar.
Good point, Andail... playing romantic stuff on the guitar is a sure-fire way to pull. So, go out and learn the guitar!
I know it doesn't help to say this to any teenager, but ultimately it really doesn't matter if you've never been kissed or had a girlfriend during your teenage years.Ã, It doesn't prove anything about you, your character, what kind of a person you are, how friendly you are, how social you are, or anything.Ã, You haven't "failed" in life if you're 30 and never been kissed.Ã, What's far more important is that you're true to yourself, good to others, and known as an honest and trustworthy person.
I do think sometimes people make attracting the opposite sex more of a mystery than it needs to be.Ã, It's rather annoying how it's been turned into a game of skill, wits, and intrigue.Ã, When you're young, it's "does she like me?Ã, what do I do?Ã, should I become friends first?Ã, should I ask her on a date?Ã, what if she says no?Ã, should I tell her how I feel about her?Ã, would that just scare her?"Ã, In my experience, it became much simpler as I got older.Ã, It became simply a matter of talking to a stranger for a few minutes then saying, "Hey, would you like to go on a date?Ã, Great!"Ã, No assumptions, just an opportunity to get to know the person better.
I think you're gonna strangle Gord with your advices, It's not like he can take a guitar to a school and play ballads while everyone is screaming.
It's a little like Migs says.
You just try to be cool, and be confident. If you have cell phones (with you being teenagers, I believe you do), get her number, so that could be easier.
So you be confident but casual, and if you are attempting to ask her out, you should use lines in the style that you say her that you think that she is the cutest girl you've seen in the whole school, but you hadn't time to talk to her before because of the school, so now that it's over you wonder if you two could go to a cup of coffee/drink (that's the way we do it here)... etc.
And try using sarcasm, but in a non offensive way, thats can be used as a substitute for jokes. etc. etc. I can give you a thousand advices, but it all goes around
the stuff that you think that she is really cute and you think that you two should go out for a drink or whatever you do there.
Or do what I do.
When the school ends a few hundred/thousands(?) students (from all schools) go to a place and we all get drunk and then the magic happens :P, but always be cool.
edit: but if nothing works go and download those NLP books from kazaa. I know that they have them for business, so i think they should have them for seduction(I lie, I know they have them, but nevertheless, I dont need them :P)
Anyway, I'll use this opportunity to say.
TEH SKOOL IZ OVAAAAAEEER!!!!!!!!!
Yea baby!!!!
I always happen to like the girls who already have a boyfriend. Then there's this one girl who was in the same class with me, she is always really nice and cute... I don't know if she has a boyfriend, and that's why I haven't asked her out yet...
petteri-, just do it. you got nothing to loose, since you don't really know her.
and gord, do like everybody says, go for it ;)
See Gord... everyone says to go for it. Just ask her out, and fate will intercede... or something. :-\
Don't listen to him!Ã, The wonk-head doesn't know what he's saying!
Do like I told you.Ã, Play hard to get, be flirty and COY!
;D
I'm such a suave mofo. 8)
please, can anybody translate what sully said?
what's COY, and what's a suave mofo?
Quote from: [lgm] on Wed 16/06/2004 14:41:15
Yes.. Don't listen to Harry.. He's not any of those things. He's an incompetent, egotistical pothead kid person...
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Damn asshole gets all the ladies.
So, dont listen to me because I know what I am talking about? ;)
Quote from: hX on Wed 16/06/2004 19:48:00
please, can anybody translate what sully said?
what's COY, and what's a suave mofo?
coy means shy
The great thing about the "hard to get approach" is that you can pretend in front of other guys that your lack of guts and inability to exhibit attraction for fear of getting hurt, is actuall a cunning plan.
Then whilst the girls go to the guys who are friendly, because of the fact they are every bit as nervous as guys, and are thankful for someone who takes the initiative, you can cry into your pillow.
Yes, Coy means Shy and then Mofo means Motherfucker...
I like being subtle... :P
No, a Koi is a type of fish. A colourful, decorative fish most often found in East Asia. Women love fish, you see. More than almost anything. What he was trying to tell you is that you should dress up like a fish, the more colourful and elaborate the costume the better. You should then approach the girl and talk to her. She should be so dazzled and facinated with your costume that you should have no problem bludgeing her over the head and dragging her back by the hair to your cave (house/appartment/lair/time share condo/whatever). You see, women love a guy who takes charge almost as much as they do fish. So if you tell them what's what and give them a taste of the back of your hand whenever they give you sass, they'll be yours forever.
Quote from: Gord10 on Tue 15/06/2004 13:24:32
Ã, Yes, you might have known that it is the school reports day in Turkey as I have told it a few times in the #AGS IRC chat room.Ã, We would get our school reports today, and I wouldn't be able to see the girl, who I'm fond of, and in the side class, for 3 months. So I had been thinking of saying to her "Good Holidays!" before she goes...
"Good Holidays!" is the best line you could think of?
You could say how were your grades, are you happy that it's vacation, where are you going this summer, I'm glad I don't have to listen to the teacher, are you going to work in the vacation, I got the best grades of the class, we don't have to studie anymore or just a simple hello how are you.
When you say Good Holidays, it's the end of the conversation.
Quote from: jetxl on Thu 17/06/2004 09:14:30
I got the best grades of the class
this advise sucks hard - girls like smart guys, but this looks like posing! At least over here it's totaly "uncool" to be very good at school... I think Americans have a different attitude towards studying (at least that's what I experienced over there).. but trying hard for school is totally out (well, every one actually does, but no one would ever admit it ;) )
Gord - either do it, or don't do it. Don't hesitate!
I wasted three years pining over some lass back in school, wondering whether I "should" or "shouldn't" do this and that, talk to her etc.
And the answer was, I should have just done it. That way I would have found out MUCH quicker that there was no chance with her, etc.
So no hesitating, go ahead and start talking to her! The worst she can say is, "No", or "Feck off!" - which may break your heart, but a couple of weeks later you'll probably find someone else to fancy!
What's amazing in this world is that;
You can be a bully - someone that fights & disrespects women - yet have a lot of friends and a girlfriend (who usually say, 'Even tho he beats me up, I love him')
Or you can be a relativley nice guy, and have nothing.
Anyway, hope you got it/get it sorted :)
Quote from: m0ds on Fri 18/06/2004 02:34:52You can be a bully - someone that fights & disrespects women - yet have a lot of friends and a girlfriend (who usually say, 'Even tho he beats me up, I love him')
Yeah, I hate those fucking type of guys. And the chicks who get with them are just fucking retards if they take shit like that... >:(
...
Quote from: kl4Uz on Thu 17/06/2004 15:05:49
Quote from: jetxl on Thu 17/06/2004 09:14:30
I got the best grades of the class
this advise sucks hard - girls like smart guys, but this looks like posing! At least over here it's totaly "uncool" to be very good at school...
Telling how great you are is ALWAYS better then telling how much you suck. That Woody Allen thing looks funny on T.V. but in real life people think you're a negative, nagging and a depressed person. So they won't like you or just feel sorry for you.
edit: Another thing. Like I said in mIRC, get her to notice you. Make sure she knows your name before you ask her out.
Lets say the whole world is gay and some guy walk up to you saying "Hello, you don't know me, but I've been stalking you for a while now and I think we should date". Would you go out with this guy? I don't think so.
To get people's attention bring a skateboard in your class, make a joke that even the teacher finds funny or wear a Spungebob Squarepants T-shirt (they are chick magnets, I'm telling you).
Quote from: jetxl on Fri 18/06/2004 08:08:25
Quote from: kl4Uz on Thu 17/06/2004 15:05:49
Quote from: jetxl on Thu 17/06/2004 09:14:30
I got the best grades of the class
this advise sucks hard - girls like smart guys, but this looks like posing! At least over here it's totaly "uncool" to be very good at school...
Telling how great you are is ALWAYS better then telling how much you suck. That Woody Allen thing looks funny on T.V. but in real life people think you're a negative, nagging and a depressed person. So they won't like you or just feel sorry for you.
I never said, you should say how much you suck - but telling how superduper mega great you are, looks rather cocky, than smart.
Better solution.
Don't talk about yourself.
Talk about her. That's tuning 101. Show she's interesting.
Otherwise you help put up a barrier between you and her and whether you say your're good or bad, she's going to wonder whether you're interested in her or you.
Here is how it goes - she may be interested in you and is waiting for you to talk to her. If you wait too long, the chance will go go go! That's why I always tend to take the first step ;) Just talk nicely to her and be yourself (cliche, but it teh work0rz!)
Quote from: Os à šltimo Quão Queijo ^_^ on Fri 18/06/2004 02:40:29
Quote from: m0ds on Fri 18/06/2004 02:34:52You can be a bully - someone that fights & DISRESPECTS women
Yeah, I hate those fucking type of guys. And the chicks who get with them are just fucking retards
So you hate yourself, as you just disrespected women... :P
I wouldn't say those girls are retards, just mis-lead. The majority of them are still pretty fine ;)
And yes, I agree with Oranges, don't talk about yourself - talk about her. Talk about yourself when you're asked a question about yourself! I know this lass that everytime I go round her house (well, used to) she'd talk constantly for hours about herself, and it's really easy to start to hate someone like that ;)
People like being asked questions. It's natural, so ask her questions!
And the key to being a "nice guy" IMO opinion is, offer before you're asked.
Quote from: m0ds on Fri 18/06/2004 14:48:21
And the key to being a "nice guy" IMO opinion is, offer before you're asked.
Nah, it's sincerity: once you can fake that you're all set!
Point seconded ;)
No really, like I said before.. Don't fake anything. Be yourself.
But yes.. Take the initiative. Girls like guys like that.. Mostly.
Oh come on, we all know that the true way to a girl's heart is to tell her that you make adventure games.
lol CJ
Girls are all different, use trial and error to get her
Quote from: Pumaman on Fri 18/06/2004 20:41:54
Oh come on, we all know that the true way to a girl's heart is to tell her that you make adventure games.
Actually, if some guy said that to me, I'd be pretty interested in him.Ã, :P
Dart, I make adventure games... ::)
It already worked once, Farlander
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Lorepretty.jpg)
my girlfriend thinks i'm a nerd for making adventure games, but she loves it
Quote from: MrColossal on Sat 19/06/2004 00:33:34
my girlfriend thinks i'm a nerd for making adventure games, but she loves it
Does she have a sister?
.. or an abnormally attractive mother?
awkwardly....
Yes to both answers...
Quote from: MrColossal on Sat 19/06/2004 00:44:05
Yes to both answers...
Sweet. I wish I could get myself to Mittens.Ã, :-\
Quote from: [lgm] on Fri 18/06/2004 15:02:43
Girls like guys like that.. Mostly.
Mostly doesn't like girls though.
zing.
The thing you have to realise is that you shouldn't put too much importance on advice that starts like, "Girls are like this..." because girls are people, and hence, different.
I'd like to say that girls will either like you or not, so you might as well ask her out now because fostering a friendship isn't going to get you anywhere. I can't say that though, because that's just my experience, and I know there are situations where anything would work. Just don't think of this as strategy. It's another person, and you have to look at your own situation and make a judgement, none of us here can tell you what to do without knowing the girl as intimately as she knows herself. Sounds wanky? Yes, but true, really. Relationship advice works in stories and sitcoms but in real life there are too many factors in a person and their circumstances to ever really be able to judge a situation.
I'd say just be cool and confident in yourself. Don't fake it, just try to be self confident and... well, if I can generalise a bit, most girls HATE it when a guy seems desperate, or that he needs to depend on you. I've always been attracted to people who have lives without me, not people who hang off of me. If you don't seem like someone concentrating on love, it will probably be a much more attractive quality than someone who's obviously thinking, "I wish I had a girlfriend". Just get on with life and the things you like, hobbies, etc. Telling her you make adventure games is good! ^_^ Show you have passion for things... unless she's a typical teenager, in which case you might want to act sarcastic and hate everything.
I also have to say that the bit about not talking about yourself for ages - GOOD ADVICE! I know a guy that does that and it's so utterly frustrating that he never even asks how I am, just tells me how he is. It's awful. Don't be like that.
I told someone that I make RPGs and adventure games. People simply don't know enough about the whole game making process, for most part, and just say "COoooooOOOOOOOOOOoooOOl! Now excuse me while I go listen to some more death metal" or "How oldschool are those graphics? Something you'd play on a gameboy!" or "I couldn't work out the controls!"
Maybe mention it, but not count on it to become a conversation piece, because it's most likely it would turn into a monologue. Dale Carnegie wrote that to be a good conversationist all you have to do is listen, show that you're listening and ask more questions.
I agree about not talking about game making. With anyone I talk to regardless of who they are, it's always the same (well, disregarding people who are interested in making games).
"You do 3d art?"
"Yes."
"Wow! That seems so complicated, how do you do it?"
Then after the first, maybe second sentence of explaining how and why it's not so complicated they change the subject, or if I continue talking very quickly show that they are not interested at all.
I've little advice for you really, I'm friends with many girls but boyfriend for none of them. Hard to find anyone to relate to where I am right now.Ã, :-\
"Well I use Blender"
Oh shit, I can't believe I actually thought about liking this guy, I mean Blender? 3dsmax is far better, I better change the topic and look for better prospects
"Uh huh, I'm just going to go get some punch..."
/me thanks Eric for helping me focusing in just one girl...