Who here has a Twitter account?
Do you use it? Do you find it useful, or just another bandwagon that'll soon disappear up the lane?
I've recently made an account, and I find it interesting to follow certain people, but I don't personally have much to offer, myself.
If anyone wants to follow me, I'm StuartForbes (https://twitter.com/StuartForbes)
I'm already following a handful of AGSers and some other adventure game related folks it's quite fun at the moment, but I can't help feeling the novelty will wear off soon.
Use this thread either to share your username so we can follow you, or just to discuss pros and cons of Twitter.
I'm not saying anything directly to you, so please don't get offended. Twitter should be used like blogs should be used - by smart and/or important and/or famous people. I mean if people want their emotions out, then they should write a diary, shouldn't they?
But I guess "important" and "have something to say" is not exactly an impartial and objective thing on that topic...I mean a 13 year old girl might think her thoughts are as important as ie Obama's or somebody, and who's to say otherwise, that teenager might be some freak or might be the next world famous genius, hard to say.
Read somewhere that when aliens find our long lost civilzation one day and they look through all the files, they'll find it strange that every person in the world thought he/she was important...it's funny but also kinda proves a point. ;D
Btw, concerning the lasting of Twitter, didn't one of the founders say on Colbert Report that they plan to charge for it later, when it gets enough of people hooked, or something similar? Only time will tell, sadly time knows how to keep secrets well beyond it's needed. :P
Twitter reminds me of those things on facebook that suppose to show your status. I can hardly be bother to update those, so what would I do with a twitter account? I hardly see the need for this. It indeed might be good for famous people. Because I could talk to friends if I have something to say. But for famous people this is different. They can't hang out on msn.
I use twitter. http://www.twitter.com/aedmark
I think it's a fun way to keep in contact with friends. Less obtrusive than facebook. That, and I can stalk celebrities.
How is it keeping in contact with your friends? It's a gen-y narcacissitic flogometer to make you feel like your worthless lives are worth telling the world about. They are not.
Quote from: anian on Wed 06/05/2009 22:08:22Btw, concerning the lasting of Twitter, didn't one of the founders say on Colbert Report that they plan to charge for it later, when it gets enough of people hooked, or something similar? Only time will tell, sadly time knows how to keep secrets well beyond it's needed. :P
Who would want to
pay for Twitter?
Twitter is very useful as a source of news/information. I follow people who post interesting news items and share interesting bits and pieces from the internet. When I check my twitter once a day, I have about 20 posts to read, and usually they are all links to interesting articles or videos etc., with a short description as to what they are. I can provide instant feedback to news items or comments that others post, or vice versa. It is very useful and interesting when used right. I find that most people who dislike Twitter simply don't understand how best to use it, or haven't used it at all and assume it's just a simplified version of facebook.
There are people who update 20 times a day to say that they're eating a sandwich, but you just stop following them, problem solved.
Twitter is very useful and I think it's here to stay in one form or another. Maybe some other micro-blogging service will replace Twitter, but the idea behind it should stay, I think.
QuoteIt's a gen-y narcacissitic flogometer to make you feel like your worthless lives are worth telling the world about. They are not.
It can be used in that way, yup. I have stopped following a few people who although I like them in real life, on Twitter they seem to think that everyone wants to know every mundane details of their lives. But as I said, when used right it's actually a very useful tool for keeping up-to-date with everything from political news to gaming news, or even just reading someones live-blogging of a GDC talk. When used in such a way, Twitter becomes awesome.
They would not start charging for it now.
I am a bit surprised by the lack of advertising though. That might change, but I'm sure they'd never start charging the users.
Quote from: Meowster on Wed 06/05/2009 22:52:47
I have stopped following a few people who although I like them in real life, on Twitter they seem to think that everyone wants to know every mundane details of their lives.
Yeh, I'm going to quit following Jonathan Ross for the same reason. I'm a fan of his, but he reports
everything.
Those who 'get' twitter do, and they use it. Those who don't, don't. And that's fine. There's no need to convince either side of the other side's POV. Hence why I'm disregarding the inevitable discussion.
I'm @rockvoh (http://www.twitter.com/rockvoh/) and I'll be adding some of yous.
Also, the 'paying' comment Biz Stone made referred to 'pro' accounts, whatever that means other than implied additional functionality. Regular twitter accounts, he said, would always be free.
Quote from: voh on Wed 06/05/2009 23:37:47
Those who 'get' twitter do, and they use it. Those who don't, don't. And that's fine. There's no need to convince either side of the other side's POV. Hence why I'm disregarding the inevitable discussion.
I'm @rockvoh (http://www.twitter.com/rockvoh/) and I'll be adding some of yous.
Also, the 'paying' comment Biz Stone made referred to 'pro' accounts, whatever that means other than implied additional functionality. Regular twitter accounts, he said, would always be free.
Nope, no need to convince anyone of anything, however it would be unfortunate if people didn't use a great free service just because they don't understand it or assume it's something other than it is. A
lot of people misunderstand what Twitter is about. I assumed it was just like facebook status updates until I actually did some research and discovered the way in which it could be used, and I'm glad that I did.
I still don't get the point of Twitter - beyond being haiku-blogging for readers with ADHD. Not even eloquent people like Neil Gaiman and Stephen Fry (who both write blogs that I follow with great pleasure) seem to be able to convey much of intelligence or interest within a 140 character limit. I understand that it's cool to be able to post updates from your cellphone, but is it really so urgent that you couldn't wait till you get home and can write a proper blog entry about it and provide further context, even just a headline (or perhaps realizing in the meantime that it wasn't worth sharing with the world)? By all means, keep your blog entries short if that's what you prefer, but why involve yet another service when we already have established means of distribution like RSS feeds?
Meowster, apparently you understand something about this phenomenon that I don't, so maybe you'd care to elaborate what exactly it was you discovered in your research?
Quote from: Paper Carnival on Wed 06/05/2009 22:50:34Who would want to pay for Twitter?
Well for example to have a bigger bandwith, to not have ads (which might be there later), for some extra letters, for pics...I don't know, but they have to pay the servers somehow.
:P
Facebook is another thing I don't really get, people I like to talk to I stay in touch with, that's it, why chat with some people you've met but don't really like them? Maybe to play games with friends, but there are other sites for that. Updating your status, wtf is the use of that? Unless it's something like "dying, need help" what is the point of that, call that person and ask him/her what they're doing...aaaa but you won't, because you don't really want to talk to them, thus completing the circle.
Again, I see the point if, for example, you're an artist and then post pics of your works on your facebook, 'cause then you get a wider market.
Btw FB is an excellent marketing tool - imagine people like what brands they wear, what music they listen too, food, drinks, cars etc. You have their age, location, job and education status, those informations are worth a lot of money, cause you can make very targeted product placement and advertising. That's mostly why FB stocks are so high.
As was already said, some bloggers have interesting things to tell and it's almost like you're reading their autobiography or memoirs, but a use for Twitter could be something like reporting from live events that aren't being noted in any other way...like if you stand nearby while some rock star is chatting with friends or you're in a helicopter above a volcano or something. Other than that, you have to ask yourself - do other people really want/need to know about this and will that interest them?
Oh, and maybe, if you perfect it, you can write stories and poems in Twitter, but few people actually do that.
I understand twitter perfectly. I would rather read a full news story rather than getting the 140-word cliff notes version. Yeah sure, if say on the off chance, a terrorist act happens no where near where you live andpeople were constantly updating, I could see it having some interest to me.
It's purely a selfish desire to use a twitter. Twitter is a silly name as well. Why not just call it brainpoop? It would make more sense that way.
Gen-Y are the most self-centered generation in existence. They had to reevaluate the Narcissism index to accommodate the absolute selfishness of my generation. It sickens me really. The reason really for this is most people born in 1st world countries in the last 30 years have never had to deal with situations that previous generations have. Most families are well off enough that there is little struggle for psysiological and safety needs. Since they are satisfied in those areas and rarely have to deal with them, they are likely to desire a higher need for esteem and social interaction. They need to feel better about themselves and loved by others. Pure selfishness.
This is why 99% of the content on twitter is pure brainpoop.
Discussion over. Want to wank your self-esteem? Tell your useless friends about your useless boring life every 20 minutes. Use twitter. Or Facebook status updates.
Back in my day if we wanted to know about our friends and what they were doing, we wall use the telephone device.
I blame twitter for all the problems in the world. Every single one of them. :P (if you don't get that, you are obviously used to people, I mean Gen-Y's blaming others for everything that goes wrong. It is never their fault)
Quote from: anian on Wed 06/05/2009 22:08:22
Read somewhere that when aliens find our long lost civilzation one day and they look through all the files, they'll find it strange that every person in the world thought he/she was important...it's funny but also kinda proves a point. ;D
It's enough of a fun thought just to imagine the reactions of coming generations.
I mean, when we take part of the textual output of past generations, it is by lovely, handwritten letters, or passionate diaries with perfume and seals and whatnot.
When people in the future research on our culture, they'll stand before a flood of texted "whereu at??"
If anything is saved at all, that is.
@Layabout - I don't think condensing news and updating our useless and boring lives are the only thing Twitter is used for. When Meowster said it was 'useful as a source of news and information' she didn't mean that she reads the 140 word long synopses and doesn't bother with the rest. I should imagine the people she follows provide links with their "tweets" which lead to articles, blog posts and websites that Meowster might never have otherwise found... what's so bad about that?
I think it all depends on who you follow. It's not just about feeding our narcasism. It's just another new way of communicating. Grumpy people said similar things when the telephone was invented, as well as the internet and mobile phones... (what's wrong with good old pen, paper and a courier on horseback?). You're sounding like an old fart who feels like he's being left behind be modern technology. :P
I think twitter is cool if you are looking for links and info. But I'm ok with the stuff I bump into on the web myself. I don't really feel like using it.
Quote from: LGM on Wed 06/05/2009 22:28:44
I use twitter.
I think it's a fun way to keep in contact with friends. Less obtrusive than facebook. That, and I can stalk celebrities.
I agree! I enjoy using it, and definitely feel no need to cite is as an important document in my life.
If it's a fad, it's a fad. Until then, I will continue using it to find out who Johnathon Ross is playing tennis with.
www.twitter.com/veryweirdguy
Mine is http://twitter.com/das_fsi (http://twitter.com/das_fsi), but it is mostly in Russian. And it's nowhere near being interesting.
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 07/05/2009 11:53:34
@Layabout - I don't think condensing news and updating our useless and boring lives are the only thing Twitter is used for. When Meowster said it was 'useful as a source of news and information' she didn't mean that she reads the 140 word long synopses and doesn't bother with the rest. I should imagine the people she follows provide links with their "tweets" which lead to articles, blog posts and websites that Meowster might never have otherwise found... what's so bad about that?
Twitter is fast becoming an alternative for RSS feeds. I follow NASA's twitter account, for example, which links to live interviews being done with the ISS crew, launch and landing footage and pretty pictures on a random interval. It's like my own small scifi nerd christmas :)
I quite enjoy using Twitter. I want to give more frequent updates on the development of Resonance, but don't think most of the small "I'm working on a fun minigame!" updates are worth blog posts. Twitter nicely fills that gap. So, I've integrated it quite prominently into my new website design:
http://www.xiigames.com
My Twitter is
http://www.twitter.com/vincetwelve
http://www.twitter.com/sstrihan
I <3 Twitter. I mostly use it to follow Heroes actors (Greg Grunberg, Brea Grant, David Lawrence XVII etc.)
Quote from: Andail on Thu 07/05/2009 09:24:12I mean, when we take part of the textual output of past generations, it is by lovely, handwritten letters, or passionate diaries with perfume and seals and whatnot.
Exactly. Like the love letters to Nora Barnacle written by James Joyce, you don't see that kind of craftmanship in writing anymore.
My love for you allows me to pray to the spirit of eternal beauty and tenderness mirrored in your eyes or fling you down under me on that softy belly of yours and fuck you up behind, like a hog riding a sow, glorying in the very stink and sweat that rises from your arse, glorying in the open shape of your upturned dress and white girlish drawers and in the confusion of your flushed cheeks and tangled hair.
At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.Today it's just "u & me behind starbuxx??" and "lol f'd your sis". No class.
150 years ago, novels were considered racy and frivolous, even frowned upon. It is only with hindsight that we can see how important a step they were in literature.
Oh, and as an aside, language seems to be moving in cycles. When paper was expensive, playwrights and authors would abbreviate their writing, to save money. "you" to "u" and so on.
Peculiar that abbreviating writing is such a cause of consternation.
Hillbilly. That Joyce quote is genius!
But nobody I've shared it with has seemed to appreciate it as much as I did.
I was cracking up more and more hysterically at every line the first time I read it... in the library of all places.
Who knew James Joyce was obsessed with farts?
I've been giving Twitter a whirl lately. I still don't really "get" it, but I understand that lots of other people do. If I didn't run an online company I probably wouldn't bother, but it seems to be a nice way to keep in touch with fans. I have yet to use it seriously. I only post an update every few days or so. There are some folks who post several times an hour!
http://www.twitter.com/WadjetEyeGames is me.
I think Twitter is a pretty cool guy, eh spouts irrelevance and doesn't afraid of anything.
Also, get away from me James Joyce.
I don't personally use Twitter. In fact I had no idea what it was prior to hearing about it at work. We're coming out with a new phone which includes a free Twitter application. I assumed it was something like MySpace/Facebook...but from what I understand (now) it's like a gigantic IM program where people just post what they're currently doing?
Not really my cup o' tea. But then again I don't even like tea...so. ::)
:) I do! :)
http://www.twitter.com/VGO_Tweets
Follow me, and I'll follow you.
Have fun gaming!
Twitter appeared almost over night and it seems like the world and his mother all have an account now. I'm surprised at how many people are taking it up, particularly businesses, TV channels, news websites...
I've never used it, I have no reason to. There's nothing so interesting to me that I need constant updates on it beamed into my brain.
Quote from: Mr Flibble on Sat 09/05/2009 20:35:24
Twitter appeared almost over night and it seems like the world and his mother all have an account now. I'm surprised at how many people are taking it up, particularly businesses, TV channels, news websites...
The retention rate is abysmal though: just 40%
I'd much rather follow a blog (which I rarely do). I think it's pretty stupid when the only news about a site like HOTU disappearing is found in 9 words.
~Trent
I follow a lot of indie game developers, and it's pretty cool to see a day when everybody seems to be making progress. It gets me motivated to work on my own stuff.
Me here: http://twitter.com/LivelyIvy. Please follow responsibly.
Quote from: HillBilly on Thu 07/05/2009 15:13:29
... It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her....
I shall never read Finnegan's Wake the same way again.
- Ponch
Nobody reads Finnegans Wake. It's the book that everyone sort of literary owns, but no one reads. Case in point: there's actually no apostrophe in the title. ;)
Quote from: The Ivy on Sun 10/05/2009 06:18:47
Nobody reads Finnegans Wake. It's the book that everyone sort of literary owns, but no one reads.
I actually did read it. About six years ago. For the same reason I read The Silmarillion -- To see if I could.
I shall never read either again. So amend my earlier statement to "I shall never think about Finnegan's Wake the same way again." ;)
:)
Personally, I think Twitter is another tool that you can use, for good or for bad. If you have a cool website, blog, home-made video, home-based business, selling something online, just have something profound to say, etc ... Twitter is a wonderful vehicle for such. On the other hand, if you're idea of using Twitter is to tell people every few minutes that you sat on the can or are eating a bag of Doritos and drinking a strawberry milkshake, well, let me say that Twitter has not been utilized to it's full potential. Heh.
I like Twitter. But for good use.
That's just me.
I started Ullyses once, because my English teacher said it would be 'up my street'...
I think I made it less than a fifth of the way through.
Speaking about Ullyses... the James Joyce novel. I have not yet read the book. Has anyone seen the b/w movie? Does it have ANYTHING to do with The Classic Greek Mythological Poem, Homir's Odyssey? What about Franz Ferdinard's song, "Ullyses" is it based on the novel?
Quote from: VGOTheMeekGeekVGV on Mon 11/05/2009 01:02:50
Speaking about Ullyses... the James Joyce novel. I have not yet read the book. Has anyone seen the b/w movie? Does it have ANYTHING to do with The Classic Greek Mythological Poem, Homir's Odyssey? What about Franz Ferdinard's song, "Ullyses" is it based on the novel?
It does have something to do with it, because the character is like Odysseyus/Ullyses but instead of travelling and being lost on the sea, he's walking through Dublin. Haven't read it except for a small part on some graveyard I think and that was enough for me, might be brilliant and critically excellent but damn if I'm gonna read a whole book about a drunk man's thoughts (not Joyce, but Ullyses).
I don't know all the words to FF song but the end chorus says "no you're not Ullyses, you're never coming home" or something so I think it's not directly connected but also like a metaphor for a lost man wandering while he's on drugs (although apparently not finding a way home like Ullyses does in the end). I think it's about trying to find a way out of you're problems with drugs but failing.
...God, this is so offtopic. ;D
;) No need to apologize! :)
You answered my question in an excelling way! Thanks!
I love this Forum! Not only do you get entertained, but edumacated too! :=
Thanks again for your encyclopedic knowledge guys! ;)
:)
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 11/05/2009 00:41:18
I started Ullyses once, because my English teacher said it would be 'up my street'...
I think I made it less than a fifth of the way through.
The only people I know who read Ullyses cover to cover are English teachers. I tried to get through it, and had my ass kicked soundly by Joyce. Holy crap was that book impenetrable.
I know one teacher who read all ten books in L. Ron Hubbard's bitter and angry sci-fi epic Mission Earth series just to see if he was man enough to do it. Watching him battle those books to the death* was almost Lovecraftian.
What the hell was this thread about again?
- Ponch
________
* Apparently, that series was so arduous, Hubbard died just after finishing it. Lovecraftian, indeed!
It was about Twitter...
Follow me...
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Quote from: Ponch on Mon 11/05/2009 20:18:05
The only people I know who read Ullyses cover to cover are English teachers.
Holy cow! My English teacher also read it!
My humble twittery abode. (http://twitter.com/deviantgent)
In which I rant irreverence, talk shop about atheism and net neutrality, and shamelessly pimp out my assorted AGS/Knightmare/Voiceovering projects.
Quote from: FSi on Tue 24/11/2009 09:00:31
Quote from: Ponch on Mon 11/05/2009 20:18:05
The only people I know who read Ullyses cover to cover are English teachers.
Holy cow! My English teacher also read it!
Talking of Joyce, I bought 'Dubliners' in Oxfam yesterday. Should be a bit more manageable :P
As of Twitter... I've all but stopped logging on... I've taken to following random RSS feeds now, instead.
I broke down and started one a while ago.
Follow at your own risk. (http://www.twitter.com/GrundislavGames)
I read about Twitter every day, but I don't understand why everyone uses it. I think is a text messanger for the bored. Why not do something productive.
The people who dismiss Twitter most are the ones who have never used it and do not understand it. It's a communication tool, just different from what people are used to.
I use it a lot, and like it! It's done a lot of good for me (from gaining some readers for my webcomic to winning me a PS3!)
I've never been into any of those fancy web 2.0 communication tools, I'm pretty old school and still using IRC. I think I hate Twitter the most since I now have to go through 10+ pages of insignificant updates every weeks just to find that one important news for every websites I follow that now prefer to post their news on Twitter rather than their main website. At least Myspace and Facebook didn't have this problem.
I don't get twitter - not a single bit - but please, convert me. I see AGSers twitters here but um - mostly "woke up, took a dump, fed cat" content...
Show me something really great!
...unless Twitter is what it seems to be from where I stand -- digitized way to be a groupie or a stalker.
and Grundislav, "Just released Ben Jordan: Case 8!" is ONLY acceptable tweet from you >:( "With great power comes great responsibility". That is, with power to make awesome games comes need to release them
amirite?
I'm sure someone's said this already but Twitter is for networking online. Simple as that.
www.twitter.com/mark_billy
I just joined this very moment. http://twitter.com/Haddypoo
I joined. http://twitter.com/TheJBurger
Somebody told me people need to know who you are (via Twitter) in order to justify your existence.
Yes, you need a twitter in order to be mutually acknowledged in some areas of the world.
Ugh JBurger, your twitter looks like prime example of broken, encrypted dialogue. Like muting one of the characters in a tv-show
charater A: "Please express your opinion about matter at hand"
character B: ...
character A: "Yes, this is an excellent point and quite fascinating story you just told! How did you manage to escape?"
character B: ...
I still do not understand how reading something you said to someone about something (if I got this right) we have no knowledge about would be worth reading or showing... or following.
It's a mess, a mess I say!
You can only see a person's message to someone else if you follow both. So there are no cases of incomplete dialogs.
I actually like Twitter. It let's me twitter.
Cant remember if I ever posted my twitter so i'm:
http://www.twitter.com/spoulton
:D
sorry for digging this, but it was either that or creating another Twitter topic.
Here's my twitter:
http://twitter.com/Dualnames
Speaking of Twitter, I haven't seen the TWIFcomp (http://dhakajack.templaro.com/) mentioned on the forum. In short, it's a competition for interactive fiction written in 140 characters of code or less. Fun stuff.
Quote from: GarageGothic on Tue 27/04/2010 15:36:58
Speaking of Twitter, I haven't seen the TWIFcomp (http://dhakajack.templaro.com/) mentioned on the forum. In short, it's a competition for interactive fiction written in 140 characters of code or less. Fun stuff.
I think today was the deadline. Shame, I'd love to enter.
I find Twitter to be boring, limited and useless. It's another communication tool for celebrities to throw out random news/gossip/thoughts. For the ordinary users, nobody cares. The number of ordinary followers means how many others are just as bored.