So tonight I was on my way home from work. I live outside of town in the quiet country side, and so it was the perfect setting for my little experience here. As I was turning into my lane, I saw a little, orangish light in the western horizon. At first I thought it was a star, and wondered which one it might be. Then as I kept watching it, I noticed it was fading in and out. It wasn't a strobe like is seen on a helicopter or an airliner (which was what I thought it was for a moment, until I realized it was not flashing.)
I wasn't quite sure WHAT I was looking at, so I had a UFO on my hands. And what does a space nerd do when he or she spots a flying object that is not readily indentifiable? Hit the gas and speed up to house as closely as possible, run inside, grab your binoculars and tear back outside into the front yard, of course. I found the object in my binoculars very quickly and focused in on it.
Ordinarily, I wouldn't have thought anything about this had it not been for the rythmically fading light and its unusual and slow movements. The light moved east a little ways, and then would seem to just stop and sit. Then it might move a little west, and seem to stop. After a moment, it started moving right towards ME. At this point, I became a bit unnerved. It kept getting a little closer and a little closer, and I momentarily thought about Travis Walton.
I kept reasoning that it was SO not aliens from another planet, but whatever it might be was coming in my direction, and having spent the earlier part of the afternoon reading up on black holes, worm holes, and general outer space stuff, the mindset was just right for me to get a little spooked.
It got closer (yet still looked just like a little star) and then it started moving to the east/north east. By this time I had ran back in and dragged out my 10" scope. It was time for some serious observation! I could follow it in the little finder scope, but I only caught one or two glimpses of it through the actual main view, and sadly, it was out of focus. It seemed orangish/white almost when it DID move through my main view, very quickly.
Shortly after this, it moved far enough east that it was behind the tree tops and I couldn't see it any longer. So it wasn't a total loss, I took a peek at Mars and then the Moon, and hauled all my stuff back in the house.
What was it? Probably a fighter jet out doing manuevers and the orange light was it's main engine burn. There IS an airbase to the south quite a ways. The reason it seemed to move so slowly was probably because he was REALLY high up, also accounting for why it looked like a star and there were no other apparent details other than the light. But it was technically a UFO to me for a little while, and it was a fun ending to a rather dull work shift.
So, tell us about YOUR UFO experiences! Have you ever seen a mysterious flying object you couldn't identify? Did they suck you up into the ship? Did they tell you they were here to stop humans from creating the Solarnite bomb? Do tell.
Cool! Sounds like something military... and sounds vaguely similar to what I saw on Monday night (see the Roswell thread). So, you're a believer now, huh? jhehehe
I live two minutes away from the bus station. Unfortunately, the last bus goes on 19.37, so I have to get on a train after that. The town, in which I live, happens to have no train station, so I have to walk from another town. It's usually late in the evening, and my walk takes me through some fields and a small hill, from where I can see both the town I live and the town, where the train station is.
So I once was on my way home, when something flashed from behind. I took a look around: nothing there, so I walked on. Another flash. First I thought it was some sheet lightning, but there wasn't anything: no clouds in every direction. After it had flashed several times, I sat on a bench on the hill, watched the sky and waited. And there it flashed again. The whole sky flashed without lightning or thunder or anything. Just a very bright flash. Maybe ... I was photographed.
But in fact, I don't know, what that flash was. Seems like aliens are fond of people walking home.
The summer of 2006, the Lapaset meeting, we're at the beach, and since I wasn't in the mood for swimming I documented some of the swimming fun, and... http://www.veriloylykauha.net/images/lapaset/lapaset_P1000857.html
I'm also rather good at photographing ghosts...
Wanna know my opinion?
99% of what we see can be reasonably explained (weather abnormalities, army testing airplanes, whatever like that) and 1% is a mystery.
This is what I believe.
Ishmael: Good one, can you post some photos of ghots you mentioned? I like them all. I remember the video from a school building or sth like that when someone/something walked through a hall and no one has seen anything, that really made me think about this...
Once I was standing on the street minding my own business after a disappointing day at work when I saw a flash. I didn't know what it was, and I wasn't particularly worried. There was a guy next to me wearing a brown hat and overcoat that must have seen it too, because he initiated a conversation with me. He asked me if I wanted a new job with lots of travel opportunities, next thing I knew I was zipping through the galaxy trading baconburgers and pornography.
Weirdest shit that ever happened to me.
Whee, I saw another strange thing tonight. Strangely enough, in the same place. It was a white, flashing light over the hills. Now, it really looked like the strobe at the top of a cell tower or something. There wasn't a tower there yesterday, however. I had a hard time telling if it was moving or not, seeing as it was seemingly so far away. So I thought, what the heck, I'm bored and I'm already in the car, so I started driving down an old gravel road leading back into these woodsy, hilled areas.
As I made my way along the road, I would catch glimpses of it, and it seemed to be at a different elevation than before. At first, it was visible above the tallest hill visible from my house. And now, it almost looked like it was flashing through the trees in the field behind them. Then winding further on down the road, it seemed to be ABOVE the hills again.
Eventually I got bored with my little pursuit and turned around and came home.
What was it? Very probable that it's a new cell tower that's gone up. I'll look tomorrow morning and see if I can see it. Otherwise, I really dunno what it was. Not a fixed-wing airplane because it was too stationary, but perhaps a helicopter.
Anyway, just wanted to relate my newest "adventure" while I eat and before I get a shower and go to sleep or play computer games or something.
P.S.
For those who don't know, I'm not taking my "encounters" seriously. I just thought this would be a fun thread, what with the Roswell thread and all. ;D
So I was in my base, telling the research departments what to do, when suddenly the geoscape showed an attack in London. The city missions were the hardest, and I knew even before our team got there the civilian death toll would be enormous. I ordered the team to go there immediatly.
We arrived on the scene at 1am. The night missions were the most dangerous. The tank rolled out of the airplane first. It was newly developed and this was its first field mission. Unfortunetely also it's last, as an alien hidden on the roof shot its rocket launcher. The rest of the team split up in 2 teams of 4. One of the teams entered the building on which the alien had fired its rocket launcher, the other team was supposed to secure the nearby gas station. The first few turns were relatively quiet. The second team ran into company first. It was an ugly grey creature with a simple laser weapon. Sergeant Lasagna doubted no moment and fired his rifle. The alien grunt dropped dead on the floor. They still had to be careful, those weak grunts always traveled in packs.
Wait .. this thread is not about x-com? :=
Quote from: Oliwerko on Sat 19/01/2008 20:56:42
Ishmael: Good one, can you post some photos of ghots you mentioned?
No, because a) the people in the photos also probably wouldn't want said photos on the internet and b) I'm not at all sure if I even have them anymore.
I have never had a personal experience with a UFO, otherwordly or not. I did, however, grow up in the same town where a famous UFO story took place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton This man claims to have been abducted by aliens and a movie was made about it. For the record, I do not believe him, but it is a fun bit of local lore to pass around. I have also camped many, many times in the woods where this supposedly took place, and I am alien free.
Maybe...
Sylpher, I've actually seen the movie on Travis Walton, "Fire in the Sky." It was a pretty good movie, if not a tad cheesy occasionally. (I just think the script needed a little more clean-up/refining/whatever.)
Typically, I would write off Walton's experience as just another crazy UFO abductee making stuff up, but he had witnesses who all had the same story and who all passed polygraph tests, some of them more than once. I don't know what to think. Do they actually know the exact spot in the woods where it happened?
QuoteFor those who don't know, I'm not taking my "encounters" seriously.
So using telescopes, watching frantically for 30 minutes AND following lights in your car isn't taking it seriously? You douche!!! :P
m0ds, after a brief but non-thorough scan through my previous posts, I don't see where I indicated watching for thirty minutes. The first one was exciting because I didn't really know what it was I was looking at until a little later.
The second one was less exciting because it was characteristic of a blinking strobe light atop a cell tower, not unusual. (Which, btw, it IS a new cell tower.)
However, I was interested (obviously) in them when I first saw them because they I hadn't seen a military jet manuevering at night nor was I aware of a new tower to the west of here.
My statement was, "For those who don't know, I'm not taking my "encounters" seriously. I just thought this would be a fun thread, what with the Roswell thread and all." Meaning, "For those who don't know, I'm not saying that I've actually seen alien space craft, because there is a reasonable conclusion to both my stories, but feel free to share any interesting stories about UFOs you've seen."
you pee-pee head!!!!! :P
Quote from: Raggit on Mon 21/01/2008 04:52:36
Sylpher, I've actually seen the movie on Travis Walton, "Fire in the Sky." It was a pretty good movie, if not a tad cheesy occasionally. (I just think the script needed a little more clean-up/refining/whatever.)
Typically, I would write off Walton's experience as just another crazy UFO abductee making stuff up, but he had witnesses who all had the same story and who all passed polygraph tests, some of them more than once. I don't know what to think. Do they actually know the exact spot in the woods where it happened?
The movie was fun, but it changed his story quite a bit, plus the area they filmed it in looks very little like the areas it took place. Such things are to be expected, though. He wrote a book and has a website if you are curious about his account of things.
The witnesses and polygraphs tell me that is likely they saw something, however there is a large list of strange things you can see out in the woods before you get to aliens and flying saucers. The mind has to make some sense out of things so we go with what makes the most sense to us.
I'm not sure if they know the exact spot it took place. I've had different people tell me for sure it took place RIGHT AROUND HERE! You know how that goes. I've camped in enough different places up there that I wouldn't be surprised if I slept in the exact spot it supposedly happend.
My personal stance on such things is that there are usually hundreds of things you should take into consideration before the fantastical, but people often skip that step and go straight to item 1001 in the list.
Quote from: Sylpher on Sun 20/01/2008 20:57:56http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton This man claims to have been abducted by aliens and a movie was made about it. For the record, I do not believe him, but it is a fun bit of local lore to pass around. I have also camped many, many times in the woods where this supposedly took place, and I am alien free.
I've seen part of the movie. I find the actual story much more intriguing though.
Thanks for the link. I spent probably somewhere around 3 hours just reading up on Walton, UFOs, Greys, the Starchild skull and so much more. Rather engaging stuff.
I've never personally had any experience with these matters, though I am a "believer".
Old thread, but can't find the main one I posted in last time, but just to say I saw another UFO last night, wooo! It's so weird though, because I spent a couple of hours yesterday checking out all the NASA footage on UFO's, checking the videos of space flight conversations and also normal aeroplane black box recordings. Everything those pilots/astronauts say and see seem to be exactly the same object(s) I've been seeing. So anyway, I went to work last night and let it mull over in my mind that what I'd seen previously was definitely what was being shown in these videos. On leaving work, I decided to take a glimpse at the sky, and un-naturally, on cue - one of them passed over me, directly east to west, covered the whole sky in a matter of seconds. When I got home AFTER that, I found another YouTube video in which a pilot recorded an object, moving directly east to west, travelling roughly a mile a second. On reporting it, he was told man made craft ie satellites never follow an east-west path. This proved to me I had definitely seen the UFO. So I've seen one travel directly south to north, and last night directly east to west. Mad! So, if you're ready to believe, I advise you believe what we've seen on NASA missions. THESE are the real UFO's...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7IzXHsym7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jpUPLqLhA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dhoW0mi9oc
A lot of people believe these are "ice" particles but watching these videos you'll notice the UFO's change direction, not somethng an ice particle would generally do! Anyway, if you're into this these are the things you'll discover from the videos; UFO's are generally massive, anything from a hundred feet in length, sometimes reaching up to 2 or 3km in size. Known speeds can be up to a mile per second (the ones I've seen were travelling at such a speed). UFO's seem to like thunderstorms, and congregate above storm clouds perhaps to gain energy. UFO's often "tag along" with man made craft, observing, but never threatening.
So now I'm totally convinced UFO's exist. And I urge you people to check your sky once a night, eventually you too will see these dim objects darting about :)
I definitely believe in Unidentified Flying Objects. I just don't believe in flying saucers..
The first video appears to be dust particles between the camera and the outside pane of glass. Or it could be debris that appears to be in motion due to the movement of the vessel.
The "large glowing orb" that appears at 3:30 in the second video is supposedly 1.5 miles wide. Whose estimate is that exactly? NASA or the guy who made the video?
Hehehe cool, thanks for taking a look. In the first video, there is no special shutter speed, so it would be impossible for the camera to pick up dust particles. You'll also notice the object that enters the frame at 8 seconds bottom middle changes its direction moments later. In the second video its the fact it just materialises at 3:27 which is odd, in another video theres a shot of the same looking craft dematerlialising. If they're clouds why do they move over a storm and then stop and hold position? :P Finally in the third video, it's the tether experiment from many years ago, definitely the strangest video of all three. The tether, which was about 12 miles long, broke off from whatever it was supposed to be attatched too, and became swarmed by UFO's.
Anyway who knows! Thanks for the interest evenwolf! :)
I'm a skeptic. I've never really sat around in space so I can't say how dust or water molecules move around in a moving craft. But for the change of directions all I see is an object moving in an arc. I don't see a drastic change of directions.
I'm holding firm that the first video shows something closer than what appears. Condensation from the vessel, being left behind (hence why it fades into the distance).
I did edit my post. Probably not static dust clouds like I said. But I need to know whose information says that the light is 1.5 miles across? That light is the strangest thing in the video by far, so that fact is important.
It could be a guess, but thats why you need to watch the third video, or instead, this one; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gh_OD2-gQY .. In the third video the tether acts like a ruler and from that they were able to predict a measurement. The craft in the second video looks identical to that in this third video (or the one above), so same sorts of sizes I'd assume... does that help?
ps; one of the most recent UFO sightings by multiple people is the one over Guenrsey, said to be a mile wide... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLNblZNDEA
I think the main thing to remember, which is what Evenwolf touched upon. Is that we are uneducated to what space looks like on a daily basis. Especially compared to a NASA scientist.
What does space look like normally? We as adventure game authors don't know. People look at HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS of footage and find the 1 thing that doesn't jive with what we think space should be like and we immediately assume it's a UFO. We'd be just as right if we assumed it was a football floating in space. When you assume UFO you're taking a backlog of knowledge about which there are innumerable amounts of bad science behind it and applying it to what could very well be anything.
When the camera zooms in on that tether video, how come the dust particles get bigger and fuzzier and turn into discs with black dots in the center? Not because you're zooming in on a platter UFO but because you're zooming in on a small particle that is being distorted by the focal point of the lens. Just like supposed orb footage from ghost photos.
You work with cameras and have a knowledge about focal length and such, is this not what's going on?
If you show footage from a movie to someone who does not know how the earth and it's atmosphere works and in this movie a lens flare shoots across the movie lens, they may immediately think that a series of UFOs has just shot across the scene.
"UFO's seem to like thunderstorms, and congregate above storm clouds perhaps to gain energy." What about the idea that there are naturally occurring weather phenomena that happens in thunderstorms that we misinterpret as alien in origin?
"If they're clouds why do they move over a storm and then stop and hold position?" That's a good question, what is the scientific answer? Do you accept the scientific answer or do you automatically reject it?
http://www.rense.com/general49/blurfo.htm this is a neat site I just found, it's a believer in orbs and other ufo styled images explaining how cameras work and why blurry pictures of normal things look like orbs and ufos.
Anyway, not to try and rain on parades but don't you think it's odd that you spent all this time reading about this stuff and then saw another UFO later? Would you call shenanigans on someone saying they spent all day reading about fairys and goblins and then went for a walk that night and saw some?
UFO's?
Bullocs, they are obviously the Matrix correcting flaws! :=
I think that Aliens exist, and they are visiting us.
I think they are smart enough to cover the vast distances of the space and are intelligent enough to develope a stealth technology that helps him not to be detected by our radars.
And I think that they are idiot enough for not remembering to switch the lights off when they arrive to our orbit, because they allways are photographed as blurry light shources. :P
First off ... are those UFOs?
Yes, they absolutely are UFOs.
Why? Because they are objects that are flying which we can't positively identify.
Now... are they aliens.
No. I am 99.99999999% positive they are not. I leave that 0.0000000001% of chance in there just 'cause only a Sith deals in absolutions. Also because I'd love to meet E.T.
But the video quality of all these "sightings" is such crap that it's clear to me it's just normal anomalies being caught out of focus and all "shaky-cam" like. When somebody can bring me something like this: UFO over Haiti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up5jmbSjWkw) I will maybe start paying more attention. Don't get me wrong ... I find it intriguing (all the UFO hype) but I'm not a believer.
I look on the odds of encountering an alien race like this:
If there were only 2 people on the entire Earth and both of them "knew" the other existed and the only thing they did was search for the other person ... if they lived to be 1,000 years old and spent their entire lives searching the odds of them actually finding one another is so remote I can't put a number to it.
Now ... multiply those already astronomical odds by the sheer infinite vastness of space and time. Sorry ... to my way of thinking we'll never find another form of life we can communicate with (or that might be looking for us). I do believe they are out there, I just don't think we'll ever find one another.
DISCLAIMER - this statement is being made in the year 2008. I reserve the right to, at any time, change my opinion given the advances in technology sure to arise in years to come. Given that, 100 years ago, flying aircraft were 'impossible', who knows what tomorrow brings?
I'm not 100% sure, but I want to believe.
I also want the poster :=
In regards to the three clips Mods posted... I'm no expert, but....
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The first "ufo" is the same as all the other white blobs... the only reason it appears to make a right turn is due to several factors... firstly lens is curved causing distortion around the edges (even at the top of the screen some of the white blobs appear to tail off slightly because of this). The only reason that this is more obvious at the bottom of th screen is the fact that the item is a hell of a lot closer to to vessel.
Secondly, the camera is higher than the ufo and moving in the opposite direction... while it is directly over the blob, the blob appears to be moving vetically up the picture, but as the camera goes left the blob, quite logically, appears to go to the right of the screen... this makes it look like it has changed direction... and bear in mind the phenomenal speeds these things are really moving at... much faster than it looks on the camera.
It might also be worth bearing in mind the fact that the earth is curved... on top of this, I don't know if the blob is orbiting or if it is just passing, but whatever the case it must surely be curving due to the gravitational pull... this may also go towards creating the optical illusion we have seen.
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The second video is more difficult for me to debunk due to my lack of technical knowledge... However...
The 'orbs' in the first section appear to be reflecting whatever the light source is coming from the bottom left (my guess is that it's the Sun)... I can't explain what they are, but they're not producing their own light.
I can't explain the blob in the thunderstorm either, but to me it makes sense that it would be nothing more than, say, an aeroplane... the strange aura around it is merely created by the static and/or electromagnetic energy created by the electrical storm.
I hate the way this guy calls them "extra-terrestrial craft" like it's obvious.
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Video 3 is a complete fake... that line in the middle and all those "stars swimming" around it.... for a moment ask yourself 'is this even in space'?... I don't think so... it' looks more like fireflies buzzing around a stick-insect.
Or equally, it looks just as likely to have been filmed in a microscrope with lots of weird sperm-like cells swimming around something very tiny that resembles a microscopic twig
And is it really a "Banned NASA UFO Footage".... judging from the clip it comes from "UFO Magazine"... I'm sure NASA would have let them release that if it wasn't fake... and I'm surprised NASA has let it remain on Youtube for 4 months...
Quote from: [Cameron] on Thu 08/05/2008 18:20:45
I'm not 100% sure, but I want to believe.
I also want the poster :=
Do you know that those "Alien spacecrafts" seen in the poster were made by Billy Meier with pieces of washing machines, no?
I think the belief in aliens is a fantastic thing. I would LOVE if it were true. I just find it highly unlikely that humans can count on alien technology falling in our laps.
I think one day interstellar travel WILL exist. But it will be the human imagination that creates it.
The human imagination is a very strong power. Never underestimate it. That's why I am very cautious when a human claims anything of the sort of an alien sighting. WE are the aliens. Outside ( or even inside ) this galaxy there may very well be extraterrestrial life. But I wouldn't count on anything that has developed speech or the ability to use tools. Humans hit the jackpot with those two. So we need to reach out farther and farther into the universe... rather than wait for the universe to come to us.
Yeah the 3rd video Mods posted was definitely without a question a microscope with some sort of microorganisms swimming about. I've seen hundreds of crazy things in microscopes when I took science class many years back in high school. I remember changing the focus would allow you to see layers upon layers of microorganisms that weren't quite in focus previously. It's just image trickery my friends.
EDIT: Apparently I was completely wrong. I had replayed other clips on youtube. At first I thought this was some hoax footage completely and that it wasn't even from Nasa, rather just some idiot with his microscope. I later found much clearer footage on youtube showing exactly what they claim it is during the clip "sunlight being reflected off space debris". Just as MrColossal had explained with the 'Blurfo' effect. I honestly still haven't a clue why it looks the way it does, like a tube laying flat with no rotation; like you think it would be doing with the cable snapping and all.
Oh well, either way I don't care what the footage is from.
I believe there is other sentient life in this vast galaxy. But I believe they haven't visited us. Also to believe there is sentient life that has technology beyond ours is hard to imagine. How humans have united over the many thousands of years and created verbal and written language, a government, and advanced technology, etc; I find this to be an astronomical fluke in evolution.
Thanks for all the comments! hehe, no time to reply right now but I will get round to it soon. Glad it's got you guys intrigued though ;)
"If they are UFO's, they are being controlled by some pretty retarded alien pilots."
Haha, some guy said that as a reply to the third video. It struck me as something to ponder -- if these aliens are so advanced and intelligent, why do they keep fucking up and getting spotted by random civilians?
Surely if they have the capacity for FTL travel and the ability to disappear at a moments notice, they would be able to not be spotted by some redneck every two seconds...
Anyway, I tend to look at these things logically. And logic is against aliens being among us:
1. Like mandarb said, the chances of a planet like Earth being close to Earth are astronomically small. There are millions of variables which must be in perfect balance to make a planet inhabitable -- the chance of it happening within traveling distance (even Faster-Than-Light) is very small.
2. If life did exist on another planet, chances are it would be in the form of algae or something else with minimal intelligence.
3. If life did exist on another planet, and they were advanced to the point where space travel is possible, and they were close enough for the trip to be made fairly easily, isn't it a little bit narcissistic to think that they would waste all their time just hovering around us in droves, monitoring every little thing we do? I mean, they'd have the whole bloody universe to explore, I'd like to think there's more interesting things in it than us, and our tethered satellites...
Emerald has mirrored my opinion, and wonderfully so.
All those probabilities seem spot-on from a logic point of view. I'd like to add this theoretical. If you believe there are flying saucers at Area 51 because an alien crash landed and left us his ship...... (no not the usual question of "wouldnt our government already be using them?" but...)
Wouldn't it be probable that dumb aliens from across the universe have access to the UFOs too? If you really believe in UFO Auto Pilot AND you believe the universe is teeming with humanoids.... then its likely we will also be visited by the Walmart shoppers of the universe who stole the crafts from the peaceful intelligent aliens. And that my friends, is scary.
And that my friends.... is who we would be if aliens gave us their lightspeed ships. I'm not exactly sure we deserve the technology until we build it ourselves.
The UFO is in your heart,look for the Bible,and you will find a lot of UFO Phenomen,the giant,beast-man etc...
so i think it is not surprise,you see the UFO,they always exsit there ,just you don't always see them
so it is...
right...
the bible is a ufo in its own right
jixleimo, don't drink and type.
Quote from: space boy on Mon 12/05/2008 21:05:53
jixleimo, don't drink and type.
And while we're at it;
Don't travel by train
Don't eat
Don't spill
Don't piss in the drain
According to the BBC Britain's Ministry of Defence has started releasing its reports on UFOs, and will do so in chronological order over the next 4 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398784.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398784.stm)).
They're supposedly free to download for the first month, but there's no link. Anyway, thought that might be of interest...
Edit: Here's the link http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ (http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/)
Ahh yep, read about that in the paper today. Another well timed co-incidence :)
Well, after reading some of the reports, it seems pretty clear the consistent types of UFO in the UK over the past 20 years are the same as the 3 sightings I've had. Simple travelling east to west, or any direction directly along the compass, plus the one that moves left and right, up and down, and the static one that later dissapears. Awesome, very interesting stuff :)
So now they can fly around top secret military technology in public airspace as much as they want -- all they have to do is file a "ufo report" about it and post it on the internet...