Uptight America -or- What's Up Their Asses?

[evenw]

Let me skip the issue of american family and values and that malarchy for a moment, and let me offer why this issue might be a big deal.

If this incident is found to be violating the  FCC (the governing body of broadcasted stuff) each affiliate which aired that tit owes like $27,400.  Imagine- each local city's tv station paying up for Janet Jackson's boob.  Haha, I just think that's funny.  

Bono can say "fucking" because the FCC recently passed that word as an adjective yes- but it is still illegal on broadcast to use fuck regarding sex/ derogatory.  I personally don't care, I know one day I will have a son and daughter, and I don't plan on teaching them those words. However, I do plan on being very accepting when they do find such things out and offer them as much  information to quelch their curiousity.  The problem is that americans can get way embarrassed, and sheltered, with stupid hopes of  raising their children and purity and ignorance.    In my opinion, a boob is fine on late night broadcast TV, cable, etc - but not such a trusted "family oriented" program such as the Super Bowl.  Not that I watch the super bowl, but I did when I was little.

[TheYak]

that little gadget thingy around the nipple was pretty cool, looked like a ninja star.

No, Tim.  I have an inside source that says it was actually:


As to the controversy, the arguments are already old.  The more conservative types are getting dramatically upset over it.  If I were watching it with my kids, I'd be more upset about the way that it was done (from what I hear, 'twasn't exactly subtle).  Mostly, I just find it pathetic what depths celebrities will sink to.  I look forward to a day when it's common enough for a celebrity to debase themselves completely for a bit of publicity and the public loses interest in them (outside of their movies/songs, at least).  People practically worship these asses.  I'm perplexed.

As far as the FCC thing goes, you've got it a little backward, Even.  It wouldn't be that every local station would have to pay 27.500.  Depending upon who the FCC blames for the event (its organizers (MTV) or the major broadcasting station (CBS)) it will fine that entity in the amount of $27,500 x # of stations it was broadcast on = somewhere in the area of $1.2 Mil, last I heard.  

If the FCC has approved Fuck as a descriptive, I'm surprised I haven't heard it yet on the radio (unless it's a late-night TV approval or something).  Listening to a station in SF the other night, they censored the following that I noticed: Fuck, shit, Weed, Crystal Meth, Whore, Colt 45 and the 'God' portion of Goddamn.  With some of the other stuff that was censored, I'd be rather surprised if fuck becomes allowable.  

[evenw]

ah, thanks for clarification. Sometimes I blow right thru my CNN.  Man, charge Timberlake.  No loss for him- he did cop a feel after all.  And that would make Janet Jackson the most expensive whore on the planet.

The fuck issue- well Yak, shows censor themselves too.  Even if the law is passed for fuck, it's still the producer's own discretion to censor it as matter of image and all that.  Here on campus, we have an FCC licensed student TV station, and that's the word.  We sat up playing mario cart till 5am on live tv and some "fucks" slipped.  No worries... but then again, there was virtually no audience.

[TheYak]

That's one thing I found rather strange.  There's a song by Everlast, don't know the exact title but the chorus is, "Then you really might know what it's like."  While living in the South (Florida/North Carolina), they only censored standard expletives.  Nothing was censored in a song by Third Eye Blind (whatever their first single POS was).  However, after returning to SanFran area in California, found that they censored the words I mentioned in the last post.  What the hell?  Censoring drug names and the name of a handgun? Odd.  Especially considering all of the implied sexuality that still gets radio play. That and DJ talk about blowjobs, oral, anal, etc.  That said, I'm less wary of the FCC than the network administration.

[Fabiano]

I just get sad for one thing. When the white house wanna open a case because the boobie, they use it to "escape" from the Iraq weaponry case. No wonder half-world hate GWB.

[Nine Toes]

All I have to say is that I don't have any problem with the human body.  It's a natural thing.

Most males are going to see a few breasts in their lifetime (probably a lot more once their married).  But if you sheild their eyes away from these things, they're going to turn out to be such boring losers.  In which case they're probably never going to get married and have children because no girl is ever going to want to date a 30 year old man who's never seen a nekkid woman because "mommy says it's dirty.

That's what I don't understand about it, parents and censors make it sound like it's something horribly bad.  When it's not.  A lot of people in this country do need to pull the stick out of their asses and stop making the human body out to be something to be ashamed of.

[Matt Brown]

All I have to say is that I don't have any problem with the human body.  It's a natural thing.

Most males are going to see a few breasts in their lifetime (probably a lot more once their married).  But if you sheild their eyes away from these things, they're going to turn out to be such boring losers.  In which case they're probably never going to get married and have children because no girl is ever going to want to date a 30 year old man who's never seen a nekkid woman because "mommy says it's dirty.

how then, do you explain all those mormons and catholics? they arent supposed to look at porn, and they dont have trouble getting married and having happy families.

One can choose to avoid looking at breasts and still be normal and have friends.

Until the super bowl...I had actually never seen a full breast before (well, ok. I was nursed, but I think you know what I mean), and I dunno if that even counts. I have a girlfriend. I have a normal social life. I cant see a girl ditching me cause I've never seen a tit.

I must say, I highly disagree with this statement.

[Nine Toes]

Hmmm... I hadn't taken that into account.  I don't really remember the specifics of a lot of religions.

I'm going to stop right here, though...  I don't really want to get religion involved here... ... It's too touchy of a subject for me.

[Snake]

I think we should all be naked.

first off, czar... Wha?!

Exactly. Why are us Americans all gum-chewing, fat couch potatoes, anyway? Everyone that thinks this way can suck my white american ass. I eat while watching tv sometimes, what's wrong with that? Jack shit, is what. I'm not fat, nor am I a couch potatoe.

Anyway, about this tit shit. I don't see what the big deal is. Didn't P. Diddy moon the croud or something, and Kid Rock was only wearing an american flag (from what I heard)? Why didn't Diddy's ass cause anything? Because he's a guy? AAAAAA!!!1 A boob!!1123445
It only showed for a second anyway (from what I heard), wtf?

If you ask me, I don't think Janet Jackson is all that great looking anyway. All the guys I know say,
GUYS-"I'd like to fuck the shit right outta that!"
ME-"Ah... she looks like Michael, man."
Except for the womans body of course.

I'll stop writing since everyone skips my posts anyway...




--Snake

[Darth Mandarb]

I just get sad for one thing. When the white house wanna open a case because the boobie, they use it to "escape" from the Iraq weaponry case. No wonder half-world hate GWB.

Please.  A washed-up has-been's tit exposure isn't going to divert anybody's attention from WMD.

And, making an issue out of something to avoid attention to another issue is a political trick as old as politics itself.

It has always existed, in every form of government, everywhere.

It's sad, but it's true.

Why are people still shocked by this?

[DGMacphee]

Actually, the government isn't using a political trick to shift focus from WMD this time.

Powell gave an interview with the Washington Post on the state of US "intelligence" recently and (correct me if I'm wrong) it made front page news.

I know that the WMD/intelligence issue was the first story mentioned on the news in Australia at the time.

So, the politicians have been very vocal about it and the news organisations have given it front page.

But oddly, the public seems more interested in the tit.

Maybe people on the whole are just too stupid to see something important dangled into front of their eyes (i.e. that the US government's intelligence organisations caused a war that shouldn't have happened --  To quote Powell: ""Absence of a stockpile changes the political calculus, it changes the answer you get.")

[evenwolf]

If a conversation that started about janet jackson's booby turns into a debate about war and conservatism/liberalism... I'm leaving and never coming back.  Can't we just talk about boobies for once?

[Goldmund]

Some genius prophesised the event years ago!
Check:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=14646

At the time being I'm not going to comment on American media.
ABC is going to air a Stephen King's "remake" of Von Trier's "Kingdom".
I'll stop here because I value my heart.

[Raggit]

I remember when I was little and I saw a boob for the first time I was upset.  

Aren't breasts fairly mundane in the big scheme of things?

Yeah, but so are buttholes and nobody wants to see them.
And yeah, babies see boobies all the time, but all they care about is sucking them to get food. (I swear somebody is gonna qoute what I just said and turn it into something perverted.)

An older childer classifies boobies under "privates" and feels like they've done something majorly wrong by looking at one.

[TerranRich]

Heh yeah, that's another thing that gets me. Someone (I think on some news page) claimed that breasts were "a sexual organ" and shouldn't be seen on TV. A sexual organ? HAH! They produce milk and are attractive only because of their subconscious similarity to the posterior, and primative urges and desires and all that. (I saw it on The Learning Channel!)

But yeah, classifying breasts as a sexual organ is ridiculous and nonsensical.

[DGMacphee]

Sorry, Even, but just commenting not as much on the war but on the hypocrisy/stupidity of people on what they consider important in their lives.

[MillsJROSS]

The reason Americans (U.S. Americans, that is)  are uptight about this issue, is easily seen when you look at how the U.S. was formed. Extremely religious people were sent to live here, and their high-moral values are entrenched into our society. Personaly, I think a tit is a tit, and don't really care about the whole incident, I can understand people (ie. Panda) getting offended. It's also just amusing, so people are going to keep talking about it until something else comes along. But really when you say America, I'm fairly certain that half or more of U.S. don't really care, we just here from the people who do. The people offended, don't necessarily make the majority, though. Their just in the light more.

Oh, and someone asked, or remarked, why the Superbowl wasn't called the Superball. The bowl part of the name, really applied to the stadium...which is bowl shaped. While, I agree, Superball would have been an equally good name, they decided to go with Superbowl.

-MillsJROSS

[MrColossal]

I'm tired of your dogma DG, look at you! You think just cause you read a few papers you can make all these accusations against the American [GOD BLESS IT!!] government! WELL SHUT UP! It's your uber-liberalism that's ruining this world with your Janet Jackson Breast Conspiracies and your Head Attached to a Penis!!

* MrColossal packs Even's bags and leaves them by the door

[DGMacphee]

That's just typical of a right-wing nazi like you, Eric! I remember how much you supported, nay, begged for the war in Iraq! Now, you're just shrugging your shoulders going, "Dum de dum! What war? Hey! Look! Janet Jackson's tit popped out!" That is such a typical conservative American attitude! No wonder the world hates you!

And you own time-travel technology and won't share with the rest of the world! The whole US is a conspiracy! ROSWELL!! ROSWELL!! You can't hide the truth from the people!!

* DGMacphee buys Even his plane ticket!

[Timosity]

American's like to portray that they are all innocent and Christian and all that but it's all really a result of the older generation still trying to hide from their parents what they believe, or got up to in youth. Seriously everyone should just grow up.

Where does most of the worlds porn come from? and even kids movies show tits eg. American Pie.

The Janet Jackson thing is still going to plan, it's typical of these things to occur, then appologise. that gets it out of the news quick, but that was all in the plan anyway, it's later on that the brilliant sceme works when they sell records. Even if there's a fine or something, the money they make from the publicity is worth paying a fine for, that's why these things will keep happening.

and yes, she probably should have kept that saggy tit inside, I guess the clothes she was wearing didn't help.

but yes she looks too much like her brother to be sexy

and yes SNAKE I read your post

Yak: what was that picture from, sorry I didn't get it, but yes I know he's holding Janets ninja nipple star.