Using IA to create game graphics

[torbente]

Hello everyone

Long ago (almost 20 years, time goes fast...) i was a very active member of the comunity, even before source code was freed. I released 1 learning game and then contributed a lot on many others. But RL become too complex and i had to change focus to other things.

What bring me back here is the recent implementation of IA to generate all kind of art, from visual to audio. I wonder if any IA app can be used to generate pixel art, sprites, backgrounds or so. That could be an awesome oportunity for people like me, with coding skills but lack of art ability.

Has anyone tried something like that? Any sugerence? I really wonder if an IA can create a character and all its sprites, not to mention animated backgrounds.

Thanks your for your time to read.

[Khris]

You'll want to check out this thread:
https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/general-discussion/your-thoughts-on-a-i-art-creation/

[torbente]

Thanks.

It is nice to see that some people has already think on this.I will play a bit with chatgpt to see what i can get.

Some examples:
"point and click game background, 640 x 480 pixels, 16 colours palete, futuristic, some houses on a main street"

"point and click game character, 60 x 40 pixels, 16 colours pallete, with complete walk cycle"

If anyone have experience with this stuff feel free to share ideas too.

Thanks

[cat]

Since when has Aseprite AI support?

[LimpingFish]

Since when has Aseprite AI support?

Not officially, but...

https://astropulse.itch.io/retrodiffusion

Ugh.

Reading the comments, it seems like it basically runs this inside Aseprite.

Also, from Aseprite devs:

"We are completely against AI "art" trained without consent of artists. And now there is a third party extension floating around for Aseprite, we are not involved with that, and just replying tweets will make it more visible. We are in tough years for artists. The level of greed, stealing, and abusing of creative works in these years is astonishing."

[cat]

Interesting.

Just for clarification: I was referring to a now deleted post that probably was by a spam bot.

[Kastchey]

https://astropulse.itch.io/retrodiffusion

Also, from Aseprite devs:

"We are completely against AI "art" trained without consent of artists. [...]."

I wonder if the below is true, then:
The best part is, this model has been trained on licensed assets from Astropulse and other pixel artists with their consent.

[LimpingFish]

I wonder if the below is true, then:
The best part is, this model has been trained on licensed assets from Astropulse and other pixel artists with their consent.

Well, as far as I can tell, the only "proof" that it is true is from the dev themselves stating little more than that. I've browsed a couple of threads in various communities, and when the question inevitably pops up, they never go into more detail beyond "I trained it on my own art, and some licensed art from other artists...with their permission."

Even here, in a pro-AI fluff piece, where he goes into great detail about how he created his product, he doesn't say more that "my artist friends" or "over 30 other artists gave permission". Also, notice the statement from Aesprite, disavowing themselves from his product. I can't find a list of consenting artists anywhere, not even on his own website. He name-drops some AI "wranglers" whose work he drew from, though...

Regardless, Retro Diffusion is an offshoot of Stable Diffusion, which uses Laion datasets, so even if the pixel-art learning was somehow accomplished using "ethical" means, it's still using "unethical" data at it's core.

So...

Spoiler

fuck it.

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[Kastchey]

Aseprite may have just made a blanket statement so I wouldn't treat that as a proof more than the equally vague statement from Retro Diffusion, but the least Retro Diffusion could do is list out the artists who consented, if that was indeed the case.

It wouldn't erase the controversy (because yes, it's still a SD spawn), but it still is interesting that they chose not to do the only thing that would give them a degree of credibility.