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Title: Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Sun 08/06/2003 15:31:09
I'm running on P4 1,6Ghz winXP with Nvidia GeForce 2 MX 400
After I load an application, it runs fine for a few minutes and then either windows closes the application saying that there is an error, or the computer restarts. I really need help. I've downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia website, tried all the settings, reinstalled windows, and still, no effect. I really really REALLY need help.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Hobbes on Sun 08/06/2003 15:43:16
I have a P3 866Mhz and the same GeForce chipset as you. I had this problem a while back as well, although nowadays it only happens when I'm trying to watch TV on my TV-card and opening WinDVD at the same time...

...I noticed that with SP1 installed, it happens a lot more. Do you have that installed? If so, get rid of it!

I'm also suspecting it is a voltage problem in my case, might be the same for you? Is your power unit still working at the right voltages?

Hope this is *some* help...
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: on Sun 08/06/2003 15:47:05
look in control panel, admin tools, in there you'll find "event viewer" this logs when and why it shuts down, and is linked to Microsofts knowledge base ,when we first used XP, our kept shutting down, the reasons where, Yahoo messenger, zonealarm firewall, then we also had a RAM chip that worked fine under 98, and our cable modem :-\, the chip we took out... the modem we changed USB's and it works fine now

woodz
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: scotch on Sun 08/06/2003 15:47:54
Yeah I've had similar kind of problems but due to overheating or underpowering.. have you upgraded recently?  Could be something else though.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Sun 08/06/2003 15:48:04
How do you adjust the voltage?
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Sun 08/06/2003 15:50:47
Strange... The restarting and closing of programs dont produce logs.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: juncmodule on Sun 08/06/2003 16:04:59
If your computer is restarting sometimes I'm afraid it may be a little more than the OS.

I had a crashing problem with my GeForceMX (on WINXP) as well. It just froze all of the time and then dumped to 256 color mode. I solved the problem by clocking my processor down. Through BIOS you can set the speed of the processor to 1.1GHZ or 1.5GHZ. At 1.1GHZ the crash goes away. This basically proves that my problem wasn't software, but hardware.

The GeForceMX just plain sucks. It has given me nothing but problems. Your problem is a little more unsettling though. Restarting on it's own...just isn't good. WindowXP is REALLY good at recovering from bad errors. I do some really screwed up things sometimes with my OS and I must say XP is the best damn OS out there for people like me. It's just a matter of learning how to use it.

Anyway, I assume it is still just a hardware conflict with that GeForceMX that Windows can't detect. Keep on trying different setups. Do you run a lot of 3D stuff? Disable the video card or turn the performance settings off for a while and see how that works. That worked "sometimes" for me before I did the CPU thing.

good luck,
-junc
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Sun 08/06/2003 16:14:57
Currently uninstalling the goddamn windows updates(about 20 left)
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Sun 08/06/2003 17:22:37
Hobbes, it doesnt work. I removed every single one of the updates and still grim fandango restarts the computer on the third minute.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: scotch on Sun 08/06/2003 18:04:50
So just to clarify you haven't upgraded lately, this just started happening?
Is it on all apps or just ones in 3d?

I had the same problem, but I just moved the GF2 MX away to the bottom PCI slot away from the heat of the processor (it was a PCI version) that fixed it.  When I opened it up it was all really hot inside so I'm sure that was the reason.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Mr Jake on Sun 08/06/2003 18:16:30
I think mines away from the proccesor and Ive never had a problem... but my hard drive has overheated so much it started shaking and smatched into the side of the computer (or something the bloke said).
But Ive never had a problem with my GF2 MX
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Hobbes on Sun 08/06/2003 18:25:16
Sorry to hear the updates aren't the cause of the problem for you. I've been working a long time with my GF2 and so far I'm quite pleased. The occasional restart (it's that now for me) I can live with... most of the time.

About the voltages, if you go into your BIOS, under the power management you should be able to pull up a few meters concerning the voltages and all that. Check those. It could be that your 12V connector isn't functioning properly anymore, so some of your systems occasionaly gets without power (once it's overtaxed). This could happen when your GF2, P4, CD-Rom drive, etc. are used when playing Grim Fandango.

The only way to fix it if this is the case, is to get yourself a new power unit.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Sun 08/06/2003 18:26:38
There are two possible reasons for this:

1. A RAM chip may be loose. Take all your memory out, reseat it, and try again.
2. You psu may be reaching the end of its life, or be too low powered. Buy a new, 400w psu, and see if that solves it.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Sun 08/06/2003 19:12:27
I bought(Okay, not me, my father) this computer six months ago. I think it has something to do with the OS, because when i was running W98 everything was just fine.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Sun 08/06/2003 20:25:46
Six months is plenty of time for a component such as a psu to fail. And it's certainly enough time for a chip to work its way loose from the motherboard.
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: BOYD1981 on Mon 09/06/2003 08:10:19
if your PC worked with Win98 and doesn't work with WinXP i think it's obvious what the solution is...
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: Vel on Mon 09/06/2003 11:02:26
Darn BOYD! I like tham OS. It's just more interactive. Do you thinks that moving from professional to home edition will solve the problem?
Title: Re:Very serious hardware problem
Post by: scotch on Mon 09/06/2003 13:04:05
Probably not, no.  You could try Windows 2000 professional if you can get that, it's what I have and I prefer it to XP.

If you're really stuck you could try installing 98 again and see if it still happens, just to make sure it's a hardware problem, and it certainly sounds like one.