Saddam Captured?

Started by Darth Mandarb, Sun 14/12/2003 16:43:49

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Nacho

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Quote from: DGMacphee on Tue 16/12/2003 20:46:53
Quote from: Lance Farlandstrong on Tue 16/12/2003 20:27:58

So IT wAs HIIIM!!!11! RETarDed!!1! MOroN!!!1

And I WAS BlaMInG TeH PooR RONalD!

IT WaS DONAlD!!!1! I HATe DONaLDs!!!1!


A typical Farlander response -- It makes no sense and looks retarded.


Lol... the funny thing is that I was pretending to answer like you in that answer  ;D  ;D  ;D

Anyway... I was jocking (As I suppose you were when you told me retarded), but if it is you the only one who has the right to post 1337 and use capitals, make me know, Chris Jones will gladly make a new membergroup for you. :P
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Darth Mandarb

Hogwarts will definately miss him.

TheYak

But it will be a better place without all those horrid little beasts he keeps letting loose.

MillsJROSS

Let me start out with saying that I am indeed glad that Suddam is captured. He is an evil man.

I do want to comment, however, that I've noticed a lot of the news reporting Saddam as a rat living in a hole.  So he hid/(was seized) in a hole for protection/(or held for ransom). I doubt if Bush was in such a situation he would be any better. I think any one in there right mind would hide somewhere from the thousands of men with guns looking to kill you. Bush would hide in a twelve foot thick shelter if any threat came so close to him. Not that Saddam isn't a rat, I just find it funny that people say that it's cowardly to fear for ones life and to take steps in order to preserve oneself in such an extreme situation.

I'd also like to comment, that I don't honestly care if he's real or not. I'm fairly certain he is the real deal, but if he's not real, he hopefully won't have any power to strike back.

I'd also like to put this question into play here. What the hell does the U.S. have to do with freeing Iraq? Why should my tax money go to a bunch of people, I personally don't give a shit about. I don't desire any badwill unto them, however, shouldn't they be the ones to pull themselves up and on their way to a better life? What does the U.S. really get from pumping in my tax money to help these people form a firmer better state? Friendship? Better internatonal relationships (because Bush is soooo good at that)? Is it for goodwill? If so, I say get out of there. If the U.S. has nothing to gain from staying there, I say we leave. Does democrisizing a county really keep off a threat, or does it fuel the fire for those who loathe the U.S., like Osama? If someone can give me an answer that shows that the money poured into this endevor will give us more money back, than I'm all for staying there. I'm all for taking out Saddam and his regime  (although, let's state the right reasons, we should kill Saddam, not because of his future threat, but because he has used physical force and brutality and the people should be free of anyone who uses such methods to establish a means to an end). I think all we should do is give the Iraqi's the knowledge to rise up and become prosperous and free, and that's it. The Iraqi's have been treated unfairly and unjustly, the U.S. should indeed do something to get them on their feet, but we should just loan them some guns to control any person who wishes to take a country by force , let them do all the rest, and get the troops the hell out of there.

I'd also like to argue that yes, Saddam brutaly killed people, but that Bush isn't absolved of all guilt because Saddam was a bad man. He might have been had he approached this war differently. Had the puplic not been informed of untruths. Here is a site of the tally of Iraqi deaths.
http://www.antiwar.com/ewens/casualties.html#count

Note, I do not equate Bush to Saddam. Saddam, is no doubt evil. However, I don't feel Bush went into this war with intentions not good enough to justify these deaths.

I'd also just like to say that Bush is an idiot. I do not like the man at all. I don't blame him, totally, for the economy. 9/11 kicked the economies ass. However, I do not think that Bush's main focus was on the economy, and that under another president our economy might have grown back faster than it currently is. I don't think the U.S. could afford a war of this nature at this time, especially when many people objected to this war. A president's actions should take account the will of the people, the state of the economy, and how imminent a threat there is when undertaking such a huge war. What of the threat of WMD? There are many countries that haven't allowed the U.N. to check to WMD. Why were they not attacked? Isreal is one of these countries, why not attack them? The justification for this war was wrong. So, yes, I am glad that Saddam is killed, but I don't think this war was initiated for the right reasons (Not to say that Isreal would attack the U.S. with WMD, but to use that as a partial reason for attacking should apply to every country that breaks that code.)

The funny thing is, I would be less opposed to this war if it were said, "We're going in there to kill a bastard who is sub-human and doesn't deserve to control people in such a way." Let there be no other reason than this, and the war is justified.

And now I am blabbing...

-MillsJROSS

DGMacphee

Quote from: Barcik on Tue 16/12/2003 21:56:17
You can continue, but it will be irrelevent. Because, were it a lie (and I still believe it isn't, and I there is plenty of counter evidence), it will still be a different kind of lie from telling that the US found them when they really didn't.

A lie is still a lie, only the US Government is doing it on a global scale.

Quote from: Lance Farlandstrong on Tue 16/12/2003 23:10:27

Lol... the funny thing is that I was pretending to answer like you in that answer  ;D  ;D  ;D

Anyway... I was jocking (As I suppose you were when you told me retarded), but if it is you the only one who has the right to post 1337 and use capitals, make me know, Chris Jones will gladly make a new membergroup for you. :P

Farlander, I was joking -- That's part of the irony in my comment, that it sounded like something I'd say.

Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Tue 16/12/2003 23:19:11
Hogwarts will definately miss him.

This is probably the funniest thing I've read all week.  ;D
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Well put, Mills.

*Kill Saddam
*Get US troops out - we got our own problems, the economy is among them, and this war ain't cheap. besides they're never going to find those wmd's.
*concentrate on its own economy.
*stop wasting taxpaeyers money rebulding another country that clearly despises the US no matter what they fix.

I was trying sooo hard not to post here.

TheYak

Next comes the really amazing part.  Most people here will stand here open-mouthed in shock (and awe? ;)) when Bush is elected for a second term.   Yes, our populous is that stupid (at least 51% are, based upon polls).  In a country where only a very small percentage of the citizens actually understand anything about the government or how it works, the Saddam-capture will be enough to clinch the next presidency for him.

Nacho

#108
Thanks DG MacPhee... That´s been a relief, I was really confused when you told me retarded. :-[

But... if it was ironic... I t´s been funny! Risky.... but funny!  :)

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