There is a famous Beatles´ LP called Sgt. Pepper´s lonely heart club bands, in which cover they put the 100 historycal characters they admire most. I want you to make something a little bit smaller. just ten characters and who they´re.
Lance Armstrong: Cancer survivor and 4th Tour wins at the moment.
Ayrton Senna: 3 F-1 Championships. Dead in 1st. may 94.
Groucho Marx: Humourist.
John Cleese: Humourist.
John Lennon: Just as a composer.
Ron Gilber: Game programmer.
Steven Spielberg: Movie director and producer.
H.P. Lovecraft: Writer.
Dick Winters: American 2nd World War soldier. Easy company commander.
Albert Einstein: E=mc2
Ludwig van Beethoven: To me, the most mind-blowingly amazing artist of any kind who ever lived. He wrote his seminal groundbreaking masterpiece the 9th Symphony while he was fucking deaf. I have more respect for him than just about anyone of all time.
The rest aren't in any particular order, I just had to put Beethoven at the top.
Stephen Hawking: This guy had to go through so much shit and still manages to be the preeminent astrophysicist around, AND his writing is accessible to mere enthusiasts like me.
Roger Waters: Bassist/primary songwriter for Pink Floyd. A total asshole, but his musical vision was so complete and amazing that I am in complete awe of him and his work.
Kurt Vonnegut: He's got an amazing ability to make incredibly relevant observations of the world within a humorous medium that makes for some truly great literature.
William Shakespeare: For obvious reasons, but for me, it pretty much comes down to one word: Hamlet.
Johann Sebastian Bach: I can't even begin to comprehend how this guy must have perceived music; he did stuff with contrapuntal patterns and interlocking rhythm that completely boggles my mind.
Miles Davis: He managed to span (hell, even create) countless genres while maintaining artistic individuality. He pushed everything he did to the absolute limit, and I have an immense amount of admiration for that.
Terry Gilliam: Of course he's great in Monty Python, but I feel he really deserves respect as a director. He's got balls, and he doesn't back down in the face of big studio pressure. Not to mention, he's got real talent as a director and a brilliant sense of visual style.
Ron Gilbert and Tim Schafer: I've just got to fit these guys in. I've mentioned musicians, authors, directors, and I was just going to choose one game designer, but these guys both just kick so much ass. They both produced some of the most complete and beautiful PC games of any genre, and didn't hang around longer than they felt was right just to churn out crap games. Ron and Tim are some of the best living storytellers around, regardless of medium, and I admire them greatly.
I could certainly go on and list more, but ten is good enough for one post. Also, I'm leaving out bands and groups and so forth who, though I have huge respect for, don't fit within a "character" parameter. Good topic, Farl :)
These are the dudes who have influenced my life.
Hawkeye Pierce - From MASH, played by Donald Sutherland (movie) and Alan Alda (TV)
Buddha - Deity
Bill Hicks - Comedian
Paul Weller - Musician
Peter Gabriel - Musician
John Birmingham - Writer
Hal Ashby - Filmmaker
Jack Nicolson - Actor
Richard Krevolin - Screenwriting teacher
Bob Ellis - Writer and filmmaker
Gandhi - Spiritual leader
Hayao Miyazaki - Filmmaker
There are many more, but these are the ones I can think off.
Let's see now, who do I admire? Tough question. Of course I admire people like Einstein, but not in any way that has really influenced my life. So I think I'll just limit this to the people who've inspired me to do the things I do, artistically as well as otherwise.
David Lynch - Film director and painter, among other things.
Kevin Smith - Writer/director
Neil Gaiman - Author of the Sandman comics as well as several novels
Lou Reed - Singer/songwriter/composer/poet - ex Velvet Underground
Joey Ramone - Singer/songwriter
David Bowie - As a phenomenon
Andy Warhol - Artist, but also, like Bowie, a phenomenon by himself.
Warren Spector - Game designer
Edgar Allan Poe - Writer/poet
Tim Burton - Director
I'll probably regret something the minute I post this. Expect lots of edits :)
Edit: Heh, remixor, I actually had Roger Waters on my list too. He WAS Pink Floyd to me. I even love The Final Cut, which everyone else hates, because it's so obviously Waters' album.
Edit 2: Ok, scrap Warhol and Bowie, replace with Orson Welles and Robert Rodriguez - two guys doing things their own way.
Quote from: remixor on Mon 12/05/2003 13:26:48
Ludwig van Beethoven: To me, the most mind-blowingly amazing artist of any kind who ever lived. He wrote his seminal groundbreaking masterpiece the 9th Symphony while he was fucking deaf.
Didn't the deaf mind?
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Stephen Hawking: This guy had to go through so much shit and still manages to be the preeminent astrophysicist around, AND his writing is accessible to mere enthusiasts like me.
And he dumped his wife who cared for him through all his illness as soon as he became rich and famous. What a man! Still, everyone has their flaws, so why not choose him!
Not sure of my list, I'll come back and edit later, but in no particular order:
Vera Brittain: Peace campaigner during WWII, author.
Kurt Vonnegut: author: Slaughterhouse 5 makes you really realise that the Germans had no monopoly on being evil in WWII
Adrian Plass: Christian author and satirist
Bill Gates: I hate him too, but this is a guy who wrote a BASIC interpreter and went on to become the richest guy in the world: wouldn't you like to do that?
Jesus Christ: cheesy to list, maybe, but I think he was right in all that he said
Bill Watterson: creator of Calvin and Hobbes, I admire his stopping, but I wish he'd start up again :(
Aneurin Bevan: for creating the National Health Service
Victor Hugo: for writing Les Miserables and inspiring the excellent musical
Baz Luhrrman: for reviving the movie musical, providing excellent entertainment in his highly original films.
Maria de Los Angeles Beatriz Montequin de la Vega de MacCormack: for coping with me every day
EDIT: Added AB and VH and updated SH comment
EDIT: Added BL and MdlABMdlVdM
In no particular order:
Aristotle, because he is the father of formulated logic.
Karl Marx, for introducing historical materialism into political/economical science.
Isaac Asimov, for being so very astute.
Robert Fripp, for his emotionless approach to guitar playing.
Moebius, for taking traditional comics as far as they can ever go, graphically.
Ykito Kishiro, for his unique vision and ummaculate execution.
Humberto Eco: For providing the backbone of the semiotic science.
William Harrison,for stating the question.
Alan Moore, for doing the same.
Steve Albini, for sticking to his guns.
Chris Jones - programming legend.
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Edit: Heh, remixor, I actually had Roger Waters on my list too. He WAS Pink Floyd to me. I even love The Final Cut, which everyone else hates, because it's so obviously Waters' album.
Yeah, he really is brilliant. I don't know though if I'd go so far as to say he WAS Pink Floyd, however. In my opinion David Gilmour created so much of their atmosphere with his incredible guitarwork (listen to stuff like Echoes from Meddle--Gilmour is unbelieveable) and Wright and Mason, while not being particularly genius, definitely lent a unique sound to the band. In the end, though, it really was Water's innovation and thematic ideas that gave the band unique spot they hold in the rock world.
QuoteDidn't the deaf mind?
:P
QuoteAnd he dumped his wife who cared for him through all his illness as soon as he became rich and famous. What a man!
Seems rather hypocritical of you to call me on this and then in the same post put Bill Gates on your list... He's not exactly Mr. Moral...
QuoteKurt Vonnegut: author: Slaughterhouse 5 makes you really realise that the Germans had no monopoly on being evil in WWII
Jesus Christ: cheesy to list, maybe, but I think he was right in all that he said
Bill Watterson: creator of Calvin and Hobbes, I admire his stopping, but I wish he'd start up again
Agreed on all those points.
John Lennon- whether you like him or not, him and and the rest of the beatles did more for music than anyone else in modern times "a working class hero is something to be" RIP
Barry Sheene- anyone who can be smashed into bits after crashing at 170mph AND still crack jokes is a top guy, RIP
Billy connolly- the guys a star, he can make me laugh even in a mega crissis
Ozzy Osbourne-anyone who can consume all the drugs and booze in south america and live has got to be god, no really his honesty and the fact he knows he can be a prat and admits it is top man for me
Sandra Bullock-no real reason, make ye own minds up :P never get on a bus or ship with her tho
Mel Gibson-great actor and and he's got loads of kids and still smiles
James Herbert- my fav autor
Ron Haslam-biker racer, could of bin a world champion if he had the bikes but he kept trying
Freddie Mercury-the ultimate showman,even when dying from AIDS the show went on
Marilyn Manson-dodgey ground here, anyone who can make millions pissing people of gets my vote, at the end of the day, if no one complained he'd be doing backing vocals in Moulin Rouge :P
woodz
okay in random order:
Jordan Rudess (and the rest of Dream Theater) - musician
George Lucas - For the star wars in our lives
Plato - Great history of Atlantis
Johann Sebastian Bach - For his freak minded music
All Queen Band members - For their great music influences
Dan Aykroyd - Musician / Moviewriter (I love teh Blues Brothers)
The creators of the adventure games I loved (not 1 in particular)
Donald Fagen and Walter Becker - for their great music (Steely Dan)
Jesus Christ - no it's not cheesy SSH ;)
I probably forgot some actors or some people I admire, but this comes in my mind right now
Tough call. There's people who have done amazing things that I admire, and other people who've made movies or music that I really dug. Doesn't seem right to put, say Ghandi and Lennon on the same list somehow. But, to of my head...
Rosa Parks - The black lady who wouldn't sit at the back of the bus.
Bill Hicks - Comedian/preacher. Guy who stood up and said exactly what he thought, no compromise.
Janis Joplin - Not the greatest voice ever, but unbelievible passion. Bobby McGee has that "ice cubes down the spine" kind of effect on me every time...
Hunter S. Thompson - Gonzo Journalist. Wonderfully indestructable lunatic. Nice balance of philosophy & craziness.
Stephen Hawkings - Partly because he's incredible, partly because of the following story. Hawkings ran (?) off with another mans wife. The guy happened to be the bloke who invented his robotic voice thing. Hawkings clearly used the voice this guy gave him to seduce his wife. Talk about gratitude....
Ghandi
Nelson Mandella
Guido Forkes - Only guy ever to enter parlement with honest intentions, as drunk blokes in pubs never tire of telling you.
Jimi Hendrix - Whoo.
Joseph Heller - For "Catch 22".
In no particular order-
- Micheal Jordan. Now, I am no big basketball fan, but I can spot something extraordinary in sports when I see it. The greatest player of all time, the biggest winner of all time, returned to two years of failure knowingly, just for his love of the game.
- Johan Cruyff. The man who formed the Barcelona we cules (Barca fans) love. Attacking, flowing, and a pioneer of football.
- Winston Churchill. One of the few politicans who did not fear to show their real face. Also, one of the toughest and most daring politicians ever. When he became Prime Minister, he did not lie and promise immediate victory like so many others would. The only thing he promised was "blood, sweat and tears" (sorry if the wording is wrong).
- John Tolkien. Not just for the books, but for the inspiration he had. He crafted a whole world, filled with incredible detail.
- Quentin Tarantino. The little stuff he did, I love.
- Rudy Giuliany (sp?). Mostly for his handling of the events of the 11th of September, but also for having the balls to go out against tradition ethical rules and fight crime ruthlessly.
- Tim Schafer. For Grim Fandango.
- Binyamin Netanyahu. For being totally fucking right.
Perhaps more to be added later.
Um...
CJ
m0ds
2ma2
Helm
Evenwolf
AGA
Las Naranjas
cpage
MrColossal
and uh............Yahtzee?
Ow, tough one.
Terry Pratchett - Author
For making some of the funniest books ever, and for making me look at things in a different perspective.
John Lennon - You know who he is.
For the same reason as wOoDz stated.
John Cleese - Comedian/Actor
For just being so incredibly funny, and for giving us Fawlty Towers.
Ron Gilbert - Programmer
For helping to develop the point-n-click system that we all love, and for making Monkey Island 1 & 2.
Tim Schafer - Programmer
For continuing on Gilberts Maniac Mansion, and making the sequel even funnier than the original. (And for making all his other LEC-games, of course...)
Jane Jensen - Writer/Storyteller
For being able to twine together facts and fiction and make them come alive in a way that noone else has been able to do quite like her.
The Original Black Sabbath - Musicians
I know this isn't one single person, but I'll just say that the original Black Sabbath has shaped my vision of music, and I'll be forever grateful for it.
Harrie Jekkers - Songwriter, comedian
Dutch man. Fabulously simple philosophies on life and killer songs.
Guy Gavriel Kay - Writer
For writing stories so gutwrenchingly good it makes your gut... well, wrench.
Ian McKellen - Actor
To me he just radiates kindness and honesty. Also, hell of an actor.
Bill Watterson - Comics writer
For reasons mentioned above. Cool imagination, great art, etc.
Terry Pratchett - Writer
For having the most warped view on the world (it's flat, for one) but at the same time getting it more "right" than most people do.
Tori Amos - Singer/Songwriter
I just admire her personality, ability to live the piano and be such a personality. People who know Gaiman's Sandman probably know "Desire", that certain red-headed character? Well, this is her sister. :)
Thé Lau - Dutch songwriter/Singer
Fabulous play on words, great performer.
I'm probably forgetting a few, can't remember right now.
for those who were wondering, my names Tom Simpson
I am now realising on the complexity of the subject... As most as I see the posts, most I realise that I agree with many of you and I try to fit them in my list in some way (Anyway, my list is closed ;)) But now I think I could add Beethoven and Mozart. I also like Hawking from Remixor list, in spite of abandoning her wife.
Beethoven maybe was a raged man. But sometimes the admiration comes from the work you do, not just for the personality. I don´t admire John Lennon´s attitude during the 70ies, totally hanged to Yoko and drugs, but the music is still there.
I really love the 9th symphony as the symbol of Ludwig Van Beethoven´s music. But, the most I like of it is that he wrote it after the 7th year of deaf. Seems impossible to me to orchest all that of MEMORY!
And what about Wolfgang? It is said that he heard an opera once and he put it into a paper with no errors. He was the most talented musician in history (in my oppinion) while Ludwing was more hard-working. You just have to see the papers... Amadeus wrote them in a strike, while Beethoven worked on them till reaching perfection.
To mix that talent and hard-working could be a dream... Well, it happened, Ayrton Senna was the man, but he died. Rest in Peace.
Jimi Hendrix - wonder why? ;D
RickJ
Quote from: Farlander on Mon 12/05/2003 20:14:41I really love the 9th symphony as the symbol of Ludwig Van Beethoven´s music. But, the most I like of it is that he wrote it after the 7th year of deaf. Seems impossible to me to orchest all that of MEMORY!
And what about Wolfgang? It is said that he heard an opera once and he put it into a paper with no errors. He was the most talented musician in history (in my oppinion) while Ludwing was more hard-working. You just have to see the papers... Amadeus wrote them in a strike, while Beethoven worked on them till reaching perfection.
I agree, but that's why I put Beethoven on the list above Mozart ;) Mozart had immense amount of innate musical talent, and I love his music, but I feel like he sort of got it for free, whereas Beethoven basically led an existance dominated by the drive to write better and better, while knowing fully that he could never fully reach the excellence he strove for. It's not like I wish I was him, because he was sort of unstable (and deaf), but I wish I had that kind of musical drive and vision. It sort of renders me speechless when I think about it too much. And writing the 9th Symphony while deaf is honestly something of a miracle to me, if miracles existed. I saw it performed on Saturday by over 300 musicians/singers (I had been anticipating this for months) and it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life.
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Bill Watterson - Comics writer
For reasons mentioned above. Cool imagination, great art, etc.
Should have mentioned Watterson. I respect him as both an artist and a PERSON a great deal.
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Freddie Mercury-the ultimate showman,even when dying from AIDS the show went on
Damnit, that's a good one. I really do respect that entire band as musicians (also, Brian May is one of my favorite guitarists of all time), as N3TGraph mentioned, but Freddy Mercury in particular I think deserves admiration. "The show must go on" -- fuckin' right.
okay, here is mine. in order as I think of them
Jesus.-duh.
Glenn Miller-made some great music, great guy, and served his country.
FDR-possibly our greatest president
Lincon-okay. maybe HE was the best president.
Churchill- one of my other favorite leaders. he had balls, did what he thought was right, and was funny. Good leader.
Ronaldo--he is the footy master.
I used to have a collection of portraits under a bookshelf that is just above my bed, so that I could watch them as I go to sleep.
The pictures are:
Bob Dylan (singer songwriter)
Cornelis Wreesvijk (dito)
Einstein
Astrid Lindgren (swedish writer of children's books)
Alan Lee (Tolkien painter)
Tolkien
John Lennon
George Remi (Herge - creator of Tintin)
The monty python
Leonardo daVinci - a selfportrait
Plato - a photo of a statue
Quote from: Andail on Mon 12/05/2003 21:28:46George Remi (Herge - creator of Tintin)
actually it's Rémi Georges :)
(the initials are pronounced "hergé" in french)
crap andail :)
I forgot leonardo :o
Sure as hell he is in my list!
His initials were GR, because he revered them to get Hergé
Einstein - Scientist
Stephen Hawking- Ditto
Jules Verne - father of Sci-fi
Salvador Dali - Surreal Painter
Kalashnikoff - weapon inventer, yeah...
Gagarin - first man in space
Phet - a poet, wrote some odd poems like(translated) "I look and wait for that careless man to be run over by that madened car"
Mendeleev - invented the periodic table of elements.
Sir Donald Bradman: Greatest cricketer Ever by almost 50% to the 2nd best player in History, which makes Jordan and Tiger Woods live in Awe of someone Greater. He Also Was probably one of The most friendly quiet people, He also never cashed in on his success and only played sport for the love of it, not money.
He is now in his afterlife giving Babe Ruth lessons on how to improve his batting. RIP
Adam Gilchrist: Most entertaining Batsman in the modern era is also a wicket keeper (If you don't know cricket, don't worry)
Jason Gillespie: My favorite Current Bowler (cricket)
Curtly Ambrose: West Indian Bowler, loved his attitude, great bloke
John Ronald Reuel T: greatest author
Robert Trujillo: my favorite Bass player (Infectious Grooves)
Al Lowe: The Larry series, plus some earlier and later games
Tim Schafer & Ron Gilbert: For obvious reasons
Dan Castellaneta: Homer Simpson, Grampa Abraham Simpson, Barney Gumble, Krusty, Groundskeeper Willie, Mayor Quimby, Hans Moleman, Sideshow Mel, Itchy, Kodos, Gil, Poochie, Squeaky-Voiced Teen, Burn's Lawyer, Mr. Teeny, Bill Clinton
Hank Azaria: Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, Moe Szyslak, Chief Clancy Wiggum, Comic Book Guy, Lou, Carl, Dr. Nick Riviera, Snake, Kirk Van Houten, Captain McCallister, Bumblebee Man, Supernintendo Chalmers, Professor Frink, Cletus, Dredrick Tatum, Pyro
Harry Shearer: C. Montgomery Burns, Waylon Smithers, Ned Flanders, Principal Skinner, Otto, Reverend Lovejoy, Dr. Julius Hibbert, Kent Brockman, Jasper, Lenny, Edde, Rainier Wolfcastle/McBain, Scratchy, Kang, Herman, George Bush, Judge Snyder
Those last 3 incredible vocal talents, that I'm sure everyone can appreciate.
Imagine if you had that talent, you could make a speech pack on your own
Thomas Edison: Inventor of the electric hammer
That's enough
Herge too, yeah.
Buff... Ergé, Moebius, Bill watterson... The list is growing with many notable comic people.
Talking not on artists, let me add Karl Schindler and all the people "without movie" like him who risked their lives ashamed of the acts of their insane regime.
Quote from: Mr.Panda on Mon 12/05/2003 20:41:01
Ronaldo--he is the footy master.
And a shirtty person.
I triple Farlander's latest notion.
Sorry... It was Oskar Schindler, indeed.
And... About Barcik´s last notion, now that he mentionet it... Ronaldo is not an admirable person (in my oppinion) because he had betrayed the people who believed on him.
He was in PSV when Barcelona hired him. It was not a very smart operation, but legal... He was injuried during His PSV´s las year and nobody missed him. That year he played his best football, but he was hired Inter Milan for money, not taking care of the 120,000 sould that healed him each sunday.
And (in spite of being Barcelona Fan) that´s not the worst. He was seriously injuried during his stay in Milano, but the crowd never critisized him, the contract was never revisited and he was full paid.
After that... a good World Cup Tournament and... He betrayes Internazionale de Milano for hiring Madrid. That´s disgusting!
It´s like you´re married with an ugly woman that everybody except you hates, then she enters in a surgery room and becomes the cutiest lady in the town. And then... she divorces of you and gets engaged with the city´s playboy (Real Madrid, God blame him). Would you felt betrayed?
Sometimes the things you do become more important than your personality or your acts, but this is not the case. Ronaldo spents money in buying private islands and yatches, not in poor guys as many other brasilian players do.
Trust me, there are more football players to admire, more brasilians, or more Real Madrid players (Roberto Carlos, maybe) if that´s what you like, but not Ronaldo, please.
TìmôsÃtÂ¥: Thomas Edison??? Take that bastard's name down, and put up Nikola Tesla.
Quote from: Trapezoid on Tue 13/05/2003 14:54:20
TìmôsÃtÂ¥: Thomas Edison??? Take that bastard's name down, and put up Nikola Tesla.
I hope you're tring to be witty being a Simpsons fan, I also could have said Homer Simpson invented it
While we're listing comic artists, i absolutely have to mention Enki Bilal.
For comic artists, I'm gonna go with Steve Purcell.
I have other people whom I admire, but most of them have been snatched up by other people. I like to be original. So, uh...
Adolf Hitler - His mustache, anyway.
Shaq - I must admire his graceful acceptance of Aaron Carter's superiority in basketball.
The Crocodile Hunter - I know of no other man who can slay an 18 foot crocodile just by looking at it, and while in coitus with his wife, no less.
Thor - I just have a funny feeling that if I don't admire Thor, something bad will happen to me.
Splinter, from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Same as with Thor. He's a giant rat for chrissakes.
Siegfried - But not Roy, that fucking bastard.
Is that ten? I'm not counting. I'm just gonna pretend it it.
Quote from: Trapezoid on Tue 13/05/2003 15:30:14
Adolf Hitler - His mustache, anyway.
That's not even close to being funny.
I admire every half-decent cartoon artist under the sun...or in their case under artificial light in a dark room, scribbling frantically...
Barcik, truly sorry if I offended you. But people have been making Hitler jokes for the past 60 years. My joke was that no one in their right mind would admire Adolf. Would you have reacted the same if I listed Joseph Stalin's mustache instead?
I just can't see how it is right to put people like Hitler or Stalin in a list of admirable people, even as a joke.
Ironically?
Anyway, just forget about it. I didn't really mean to be offensive, just stupid. Never mind me.
No probs. :)
I had no idea the ronoldo was such a shity guy, I just admired him because he was a great soccer player from brazil. I usually dont follow european soccer, as its hard to get games and stats about it here in the states.
With that, knowing that he is such a crap head, I shall replace him with my second fav. brazilian soccer player, roberto carlos.
I still think he's good good though. loads of fun to watch.
Well, I don't like him either so you will have to remove him.
:P
Well, seriously, he does annoy me, but at least this pick I can accept.
Response to MR. PANDA
Well... Roberto Carlos also annoys me, but just because he is in Madrid and I am a Barça fan ;D Thanks for changing your vote Mr. Panda... It means quite for some of us who felt betrayed by Ronaldo.
For the people whose contry is being envolved in famine, terrorist strikes, war or disease... for the people with REAL problems, feeling so bad about a football player can suck... but I´m just a Catalan guy whose only way to show its patriot pride is to see Madrid crushed by Barcelona.
It is very sad for me seeing that the best players of the word (some of them former Barcelona players) are being bought by Madrid, just for their greed.
Many people will say... Hey! Real Madrid earned that money... It has the right to buy them, but they don´t know the real situation... Barcelona has allways been the best economy-healthed club in Spain, Europe and the World, followed close by ManU. But since the Popular Party win, in 1996, the things had "misteriously" changed. Real Madrid was allowed to hire players in spite of the huge debts, while Barcelona was crushed by unfair laws. As an example, let me tell that Madrid received 300 million Euros just for the re-qualyfing of the terrain of ¡Two football eath ends! in the outskirts of Madrid.
Real Madrid has been aided during whole history by fascists or conservative regimes... Notice that I preffer the conservative economy managements rather than socialists systems, but one thing is talking of economy and one most different is to meddle in sport matters.
And all that has been because you´ve changed your vote to one that I like most than the previous... Imagine which post could I write if you changed your voto to one like... FIGO! ;)
Don´t mind me, mate ;D
nah, I would have prob. picked carlos anyways.
we have that kind of problem here in the states. Its called the new york yankees...who buy all of baseball. thats why I hate it now
Well, several people here have cited a man who deployed troops against the Suffragettes [lets see you get the vote now bitch!], as well as striking unionists. A man who through his own folly and arrogance in a leadership he got only by right of birth, led thousands of men to death in the Dardanelles and who advocated chemical warfare against the Mesopetamian tribes (now Iraq) as a way of making them subservient to the Mandate.
All heros are villians. If there's someone to admire, they sure ain't in politics.
sure, but he drank half a bottle of whiskey every morning right after waking up. i guess that counts.
about villains, heros and politics :
i kind of agree, but would your comment apply to someone like sub-commander marcos ? because i could honestly say that i admire him
Here goes.
I just want to say I've admired a lot of people over the past but I can't really remember them all. For example, I've admired people I've read about etc but their names escape me now.
> Steven Spielberg. He made Jurassic Park, I would have loved to have directed it ;) He's a satisfactory director but I admire him more for his place in the top directors.
> Jim. My former next door neighbour, he had a great sense of humour that I could never match but I wish I could, and he always had the right answers when it came to ladies!
> Timmy Mallet. I wish I could be as insane as him and get away with it.
> The creators of LBA and LBA II. Thats the kind of game I wish I had made.
> Helm. His artistic abilities outstound me, and his art makes me jealous :P
> Beth. Because she has so many friends :P and if I was a girl I'd want to be her! LOL
I'd like to admire weather too, but its not a person.
m0ds
Political: Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Raoni, Baby Jesus.
Music: Bob Marley, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Muddy Waters.
Comedy: Kamagurka, Monty Python, Matt Groening.
Sport: Maradona, that guy who ran the first marathon and died, Pele, Mohammed Ali.
Movie Characters: The dude, Sam from LOTR, and Oscar Schindler's accountant.
OK.
George Lucas: Guy who made Star Wars and helped with Indiana Jones and made Lucasarts which made Monkey Island.
Mike Judge: Made one of the best movies ever: Office Space! Also the creator of Beavis and Butthead and co-creator of King of the Hill
Michael J. Fox: For starring in the best movie series ever: Back To The Future!!
Any Telemarketer or Spammer: For not getting their a** kicked for the crap he or she does.
Chris Jones: If you don't know who this guy is get out of this forum. Right now!
Adam Sandler: Best actor of all time!
John Cleese: For starring in the Monty Python films and Rat Race and Fierce Creatures, and A Fish Called Wanda.
Weird Al Yankovic:Check this out. (http://www.weirdal.com)
William Gaines: The (dead) founder of MAD magazine.
Frank Black, Musician -- One of the most influential musicians in the 80s and 90s.
John Lennon, Musician -- All the Beatles are great, of course, but I think Lennon had the most talent.
Jimmy Carter, President -- Bad politician, good human being
Martin Luther King Jr, Ghandi, Activists -- For civil disobediance and changing peoples' lives.
Kurt Vonnegut, Writer -- Unique, interesting stories that mean something
Bill Watterson, Charles Schulz, Cartoonists -- For growing roses among all the horse shit out there
I know there's plenty I've forgotten. I'll add more later..
http://www.sylpher.com/Heros.html
-Robert Eric
And that's about it.
God- The absolute power.
John Lennon- He had the talent but McCartney tried to take the fame. Believed in world peace too.
Bob Dylan- Great song writer.
Forrest Gump- If you think about it he looks on life in a better way than some.
Edit: I'm adding these I just thought of
George Orwell
Johnny Cash
I was actually going to put Forrest Gump on my list ;)
but I decided to only use real people.
Jimi Hendrix (musician) - little needs to be said, he was a genius. As well as being a truly fantastic guitar player, also remember his constant quest for interesting new sounds and production, it was this adventurousness which made the Experience debut album one of the most influential ever. But one of the other great things about him for me is his lyrics, he was wonderful with them. 'Castles Made Of Sand' is a good example. This guy never made a bad album - well, he only made the 3 studio albums, but they were all incredible.
The Beatles (musicians) - The Beatles were fantastic and I admire all of them greatly. Paul has always been my favourite, but it was the fusion of those four personalities which made it work, no doubt about it.
George Lucas (director) - Most of my friends hate 'Star Wars' but those films (the originals) are special to me. Also they made a lot of the other stuff I like possible - Indiana Jones for example, and LucasArts games.
Harrison Ford (actor) - as Han Solo and Indiana Jones, he was the king of cool in two of my favourite movie trilogies. 'Nuff said really, he's just great.
The Simpsons writers (comedy writers) - They created the funniest and best thing to ever grace a television screen, so hats of to them. IMO, The Simpsons is still going strong, not many think so though...
The Python crew (comedians/writers) - they were pretty funny. I think 'The Meaning Of Life' is an all-time great.
There are a few other people who I actually know who I kind of admire, but that's about all I can think of right now.
quite a lot of people pop into my mind, but I'll just write down the ones who probably affected my life a lot.
David A. Gemmell - writer
Timo Tolkki - guitarist/songwriter
Yngwie J. Malmsteen - guitarist/songwriter
Chuck Schuldiner - a legend
Hmm... this is tough... well lemme start with the basics...
Dimebag Darrel - Guitarist. This guy has the know how and skills when it comes to guitar... I'd sell my soul for a chance to be able to play like him.
Bill Gates - basically cuz he started his life as a nobody, like all of us do, and now a few decades later, his net worth is something like 40 billion...
Ron Jeremy - Porn Star. Come on, look at this guy... he looks like a troll... but he's slept with some of the most attractive women in the world, he's set a couple records, multimillionaire, get's more booty than Hugh Hefner (oh yeah, he's another one too...). Ron Jeremy is proof that anyone, has a chance.
George Romero - Film Writer/producer. This man is responsible for the original black and white Night Of The Living Dead. It doesn't seem like there are any people out there besides this guy that are as obsessed with zombies as me (John Russo helped with the movie, and is responsible for the newer Living Dead movies, but what's with the whole "brains" thing?)
Albert Einstein - Physicist, astronomer; hell, what didn't this guy get into? This man's theories on relativity are brilliant.
Steven Hawking - Genius. I think he's the smartest man in the world, which is cool, but it sucks cuz he's in a wheel chair and uses a computer to speak.
Plato - Philosopher. The father of modern thought. "I think, therefore I am."
Michaelangelo - Artist. Come on, give this guy some credit... he painted the entire ceiling of some stupid church with a giant mural, and he wasn't afraid to push the envelope, think of David.
I suppose that's all the better I can do...
i wouldn't stake my life on it, but from what i remember it was Descartes who said cogito ergo sum...
Russo didn't really have that much with Return of the Living Dead, since Dan O'Ban realised that he was shit and rewrote the script, doing an absolutely brilliant job too, and essentially barring him from the whole creative process. Russo's sole contribution was a licence (luckily).
Russo did do a bit with Return 2, which is why it was dreadful, along with the 20th anniversary special edition of Night, which was awful.
And plastic man is right.
K, here's my two cents..
Politics:
Bill Clinton - he might have screwed up, but he cares. 9/11 he was in New York quick, doing what he could. Georgie Boy wouldn't have done the same.
Jimmy Carter - he was a peanut farmer.
Music:
The Who - all four, for redefining rock.
Sonic Youth - all four, for redefining it again.
Wes Borland - suffered being in Limp Bizkit, just so he could release his own stuff, like Ginormous Penis Laser. As far as I know, it flopped.
Films:
Peter Jackson - pre-LOTR, when he had absolutely no budget but managed to make the films look incredible.
David Niven - only worked to pay for his various habits.
Humphrey Bogart - the *original* rat pack.
TV:
Monty Python - redefined comedy.
Adam and Joe/Antoines de Caunes - they don't if anyone watches, as long as they have a good time.
The Kids in the Hall/Sledgehammer/Red Dwarf - couldn't fault them if I tried.. (well, except RD near the end).
Family:
My Grandad - worked when he felt like it, drank all the time, had to put up with my Nan, cope with various illnesses.. but still *always* had a smile on his face.
My mum - the amount of crap she's had to put up with over the last 23 years.
Friends:
Mr. C and Oniichan - made me what I am today.
I mostly admire myself, but I also admire :
Sports:
Krasimir Balakov
Michael Owen
Pete Sampras
Jelena Dokic
Actors:
Sean Connery
Mel Gibson
Harrison Ford
Jennifer Aniston
Music:
Mark Knopfler
Meat Loaf
Madonna
What took Dokic so long to tell her dad to fuck off?
Quote from: Las Naranjas on Tue 13/05/2003 21:58:54
Well, several people here have cited a man who deployed troops against the Suffragettes [lets see you get the vote now bitch!], as well as striking unionists. A man who through his own folly and arrogance in a leadership he got only by right of birth, led thousands of men to death in the Dardanelles and who advocated chemical warfare against the Mesopetamian tribes (now Iraq) as a way of making them subservient to the Mandate.
Damn you Albert Einstein! Damn YOOOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!
Chris Jones.
Barcik.
Edit: And Sharon and Mazen if they finally bring the f*ck*d peace! Damn, I´m tyred of that 50-year deadly match!
Quotei wouldn't stake my life on it, but from what i remember it was Descartes who said cogito ergo sum...
Yes. A nice poem, that is.
QuoteWhile we're listing comic artists, i absolutely have to mention Enki Bilal.
For starting out as a moebius immitator, he sure grew into his own. I like most of his work too.
I dunno, LasNaranjas.
But that Bernildi man looks like the devil himself.
Quote from: Helm on Tue 17/06/2003 12:14:08
Quotei wouldn't stake my life on it, but from what i remember it was Descartes who said cogito ergo sum...
Yes. A nice poem, that is.
QuoteWhile we're listing comic artists, i absolutely have to mention Enki Bilal.
For starting out as a moebius immitator, he sure grew into his own. I like most of his work too.
agreed.
from what i've heard, bilal is gonna direct a movie soon. i'm curious about the result
and i'm not very fond of the "discours de la méthode".
never trust a guy who pretends to prove the existence of god...
I'd like to make an amendment to my list.
Most of you probably already know, but I'm studying journalism -- and over the course you get an understanding on some of the history of journalism.
The two guys I'm adding to my list are 'Chris Masters' and 'Phil Dickie' -- You probably have never heard of these two guys, but I admire their work.
Both investigated into organised crime in my state of Queensland during the 80s and found various links between mob bosses and member of the police force.
Phil Dickie worte a series of articles on illegal casinios and brothels while the Police Department denied it.
Chris Masters made a documentary called 'The Moonlight State', which dealt witht he same issues.
Both men faced threats from the police and crime bosses, yet they managed to bring about one of the biggest political inquiries -- The Fitzgerald Inquiry.
The result of this inquiry was they found there was corruption in Queensland, the police were involved, the Police Commissioner (Sir Terry Lewis) was jailed, and the Premier of the state, Sir Joh Bjeke-Peterson, had no clue that this was going on.
Not only that, but it was also found that Sir Joh didn't even understand things such as the separation of powers (demonstrated with his use of the police force as his own private army -- thus earning him the title 'The Hillbilly Dictator)
With all this politcal tension, he resigned.
It was a way tougher situation than Watergate and, even though things aren't perfect now, I do have some hope of a legitimate and honest career in journalism.
As an interesting note: Queensland made prostitution legal a few years back -- Ironic, isn't it?
Interestingly, I have seen a program about investigating journalist Jack Andersson on History channel just today. His research has shown links between the Mob, Fidel Castro and the JFK assassination.