Does anyone think that Nicholas Cage is a hideous actor? Every time I see him, I can't see the character he's playing, I see a guy acting. He can't play different types of people. he can't do accents, he can't display emotion, and he especially can't convincingly play a character that's clever.
So, anyone else agree?
:o
::kills self::
You're right, but I never noticed. Looking back, I see now why National Treasure wasn't a much better movie. Come to think of it, the only redeeming quality was Riley.
Right with you. I hate Nick Cage. I had a dream about lighting his head on fire and I though it was pretty cool, but then I found out that he was going to play Ghost Rider in the upcoming movie. Very not cool.
But the important thing here in this relatively pointless thread: Kinoko, does this mean that you finally got internet hook up in your apartment?
Oh yeah. Had it since Wednesday. It's been great, doing the same things I do at work all day and having noone to talk to because none of my friends give a crap that they can talk to me now.
(Don't mind me, I'm feeling sorry for myself tonight)
what an..interesting..reason to start a topic. ;D
Can't say I've ever noticed about Nicholas Cage. I only remember seeing him in a few movies, though. They all seemed ok for what they were made to be. Except that war movie. That was pretentiousness extreme. But I don't think that was because of ol' Nick
I kind of enjoyed his efforts in Raising Arizona. From that on, can't say he's struck me as a good actor, no.
Can't say his skills are so much below ordinary Hollywood standards that it deserves a thread, but hey :P
I guess, thinking about it, he is a fairly ... limited actor. Kind of like Sean Connery is always Sean Connery, regardless of who he's meant to be playing. However, I think he's an enjoyable presence (mostly true of Cage and Connery, but here I meant Cage). There are some 'better' actors that I just want to punch in the face for the first five minutes they're on screen (after that, I want to punch myself in the face for not turning over faster), but I quite like Nicolas Cage.
And, was there some specific reason for posting this here & now, or just general venting?
NNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
::fuming, foaming, and running toward the nearest living thing to kill it::
Nicholas Cage is playing Johnny Blaze??? What friggin' MORON dreamed that up!!! I had every issue of both the old and new Ghost Riders, and he is NEITHER of them!!! Ohh, I think I'm gonna be sick....
EDIT: Ash, now that I hear about it, I bet Kinoko posted this because he'd just heard the bad news, too.... :'(
He's 1000 times better than Tom Cruise.
You speak the truth...
Such a pointless topic. I think I'll take part ;D
Nicholas Cage is an awfukll actor! I hate him, but I do adore his taste in picking the right movies. Or is it his agent? He seems uncapable of playing any role...
Edit after Farlander: Agreed, but Tom had Nikol Kidman and now has Penelope Cruise... That's a plus to him! And anyway this topic is for Nicholas Cage who sucks (also Tom Cruise)get out of here! ;D
It's not so much that he's so much worse than a lot of other actors, but the fact that he gets so much praise for what I don't think is there.
Nooo! He's not longer with Penelope, she's with Katie Holmes... a great change I must say.
Even though I'm married I must admint, that my wife wouldn't mind coming with any of the three home tonight! Or with all three of them.
Quote from: esper on Fri 30/09/2005 13:52:47
I bet Kinoko posted this because he'd just heard the bad news, too.... :'(
Real quick, Kinoko =
sheQuote from: Farlander on Fri 30/09/2005 13:54:46
He's 1000 times better than Tom Cruise.
But 1/1000 as sexy.
Quote from: Vince Twelve on Fri 30/09/2005 14:00:22
But 1/1000 as sexy.
I don't think I could ever, being a male, judge another man of being sexy. How do you difine sexy in the male human being. I can tell you about females (boobs, ash, etc. etc, not exacty but for the shake of argument), but for male. Let me know Vince, so I can judge for myself.
Anyway, I find dear Nicholas very usefull when I try to feed my kid. I bring a picture sasying to my son that if he doesn't eat his lunch the bougy man will come and get him. It works!
Sorry, Kinoko. I just figured, being the male chauvinist pig that I am...........................
Anyway, nik: I agree, however, I think a man can say, "Damn, I wish I looked like THAT guy" and in that way be, in a somewhat roundabout manner, admitting the sexiness of another male...
On which note, I'd rather look like / be Nicolas Cage, than Tom Cruise.
Quote from: nikolasideris on Fri 30/09/2005 14:04:14I don't think I could ever, being a male, judge another man of being sexy. How do you difine sexy in the male human being. Let me know Vince, so I can judge for myself.
Nothing complicated -- just a little tingling in the genitals...
Quote from: esper on Fri 30/09/2005 14:13:42
Anyway, nik: I agree, however, I think a man can say, "Damn, I wish I looked like THAT guy" and in that way be, in a somewhat roundabout manner, admitting the sexiness of another male...
So scratching your balls while looking another man... Cool...
Well I have to say that personaly I look more like Nicholas and not like Tom, cause I'm 1.94m and BIG and heavy and slow and with a bass voice and all. I have nothing delicate on me! That's the only reasons I won't have Katie tonight...
Indeed
Quote from: nikolasideris on Fri 30/09/2005 14:04:14
I don't think I could ever, being a male, judge another man of being sexy. How do you difine sexy in the male human being. I can tell you about females (boobs, ash, etc. etc, not exacty but for the shake of argument), but for male. Let me know Vince, so I can judge for myself.
I know how you feel. I am always like "I'm so hairy and fat" and then my girlfriend say she likes bellies, what's up with that?!? Didn't the learn ANYTHING from Television?!!
For a "useless" thread this is getting a lot of replies very quickly ^_-
I didn't intend for it to be useless though. I really hate Nic Cage and I can't understand why so many people think he's the shit.
It's like the other misspelled Steven Seagal topic. Just as pointless, but fun anyway :P
I actually don't mind Nic Cage that much ... For a really bad actor I'd say Ben Affleck. Damn I hate that guy.
Quote from: Kinoko on Fri 30/09/2005 14:28:38
I really hate Nic Cage and I can't understand why so many people think he's the shit.
If the shit means what I think it does, then for the same reasons as you!
But Ben Affleck, no I quite like him.
I felt that "The Family Man" was well performed, but I do agree with Ashen that he does seem to be unable to act above himself, in a sense. I really don't mind him, and I totally loved everything about National Treasure, and I sincerly hope that they do great justice in the sequel.
Actually... If a person has such amount of hate to another person (an artist, actually, who never hurt anybody and haven't commited a crime) to make it public in a forums I think that that person has some kind of problem... No offense Kinoko, but hundreds of people awake my anthipaty during the day, but it happens in seconds, never enough to post about it.
In my list if hate Bin Laden, Hitler, Castro, Pol Pot and Karadjic are above of Tom Cruise, Nicholas Cage or Homer Simpson...
Let's put all in context. I REALLY HATE NIC CAGE is something that is totally out the reality.
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In my list if hate Bin Laden, Hitler, Castro, Pol Pot and Karadjic
I've never seen any of their movies. I'll have to check them out on IMDB...
Seriously Farlander, how long have you been on he internet? Don't you just talk shit to people sometimes? Stop taking things so seriously.
No offense, really, but I picture you sitting around having tea with your friends and talking about what a sunny day it is :P
You know what? I fucking hate people who don't like poatoes The potatoe is a beautiful vegetable and you must be a god damned lunatic not to appreciate it.
EDIT: Right, I'm going to bed. Farlander ruined my thread with his non-existant sense of humour. Everyone point at him and shake your heads and 'tut' in his general direction.
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I love potatoes
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Upon searching, they all seem to play (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1136915/) themselves (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0386944/) in a lot of movies, but not much else... which is the same argument that keeps being leveraged against Nic Cage. I personally can't see what makes Bin Laden, Hitler, Castro, Pol Pot and Karadjic any worse than Mr. Cage.
Eeeer... Killing millions of people?
Are you pushing the joke to far away, I think.
To make an example. If you were a comedian saying that an actor is not worse that a genocide should have made people stop laughing and turn their face into sickness some minutes ago...
Quote from: Farlander on Fri 30/09/2005 15:30:05
To make an example. If you were a comedian saying that an actor is not worse that a genocide should have made people stop laughing and turn their face into sickness some minutes ago...
I think that I agree with Farlander on this one!
BUTQuote from: Kinoko on Fri 30/09/2005 15:17:52
EDIT: Right, I'm going to bed. Farlander ruined my thread with his non-existant sense of humour. Everyone point at him and shake your heads and 'tut' in his general direction.
I'm so glad that 'm not the one who ruined this beautifull thread. It had Nikol, Katie and Penelope in. What's so bad about it... ;D
I think that my sentence is not gramatically correct... :'(
David Hasslehoff is better than him *not a compliment... far from it*
He is better at running and being around pretty women, that's for sure. But when was the last time you saw Knight Rider?
Quote from: rharpe on Fri 30/09/2005 17:11:58
David Hasslehoff is better than him *not a compliment... far from it*
Mostly becuase the Germans love David Hasselhoff.....
Also, as a Ghost-Rider comic collector (God, I am so cool) I must affirm the statement that Nick Cage is no where near being appropriate for the role.
He has skin on his face and a lack of flames and, oh my god!
I don't really have an opinion about Cage, but:
Quote from: Squinky on Fri 30/09/2005 18:57:54Mostly becuase the Germans love David Hasselhoff.....
Not true. Why is this idea still alive? I keep seeing it pop up here or there. I seem to recall that he did have a brief burst of inexplicable popularity here in the early 90s or so, but that's over and has been over for roughly a decade. Seriously, almost every time I hear anything about him at all is people on the internets saying this.
I kinda never let cheesy jokes die. I first heard it on Saturday Night Live( I think when Dennis Miller was the news guy), and like the annoying person I am, I took to it. Recently it was used in the movie Dodgeball also....
Quote from: Farlander on Fri 30/09/2005 15:30:05
Eeeer... Killing millions of people?
holy crap! Nick Cage killed millions of people!
Good lord, he must be stopped!
Also, go watch Vampire's Kiss, he was good in that and only killed 1 lady not millions, maybe that's when he started...
You know the old saying, betcha can't kill just one!
hahahahahahahaDAMMIT MISTER COLOSSAL!!!!!!!
I wish you didn't have subliminal messaging in your avatar. It ruined my laughing spasm. You seriously need to post a still image of that spare frame. Every time I see it, I stare for hours to see it again and never do.
Squinky rules several galaxies. Rock on with the Ghost Rider collection.
I mean, seriously, as much as Ben Affleck sucks, even HE would be a better choice for GR. Then again, there must be some rule that you can't be more than one superhero...
The more I think about it I think that the worst actor (and actually good looking) is Kuanu Reeves (sp). Shit he's awfull but yet played in some of the best selling movies the last 5-7 years (how old is Dracula?)
And he has alwasy been awfull. Even worst than Nicholas Cage or Tom Cruise...
Actually, I really liked him in Constantine, but that was just my type of movie... Otherwise, I think you're right. My vote for all time worst actor goes to KR.
Well, at least in recent times. NO ONE could act pre-1990, even though all the movies before then had better plots.
Wait just a minute, here... Nik has been spending time trying to get the heat off Nicholas Cage...
nikolasideris ... Nikolas-i-cage-is!!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Does anyone else remember him saying he looked like Nick Cage???
I can't believe no one has mentioned Leaving Las Vegas. The majority of people in this thread have said Cage sucks and no one has even mentioned Leaving Las Vegas, one of the most harrowing and most beautiful films about love... one of the most harrowing about alcoholism. The same movie in which Roger Ebert said in his review, "Cage, a resourceful and daring actor, has never been better." The same movie in which Cage won his Best Actor Oscar along with nearly every other Best Actor award for that year.
I don't care how many National Treasures or The Family Mans he makes. The fucker can act. He's got potential. He got game. Leaving Las Vegas is bullseye proof of that. End of story.
Stupid MacPhee!!! Thanks for ruining it for us!!! Now you've got me thinking about Matchstick Men, which was also a really good acting job. And, as much as I don't even want to ADMIT TO HAVING SEEN IT, there's always 8mm. When he was freaking out because he found out some sick perverted bastard had killed the innocent little girl to make a snuff movie, he rocked the acting scene.
But no one beats Mel Gibson. Boy, can that man CRY!!!!! Plus no one else in Hollywood has arms that are quite so hairy.
And even better noone can yell "Fredom!!!!!" better than a male chicken (shit I don't remember the word) who claims he can fly!!!!!!
No, I like Mel. But Nicholas Cage, sorry guys, I don't. (thanks esper for this)!!!!
And I don't think that playing a guy with special problems is acting. Actually I think it's much easier to act a paranoid, alcoholic, problematic guy than a normal guy... If you think about it when you get a character with such a strong personality and such strong problems you can just emphasize on these problems (alcoholism), and do your job very nicesly. Furthermore with his somewhat dumb face (like mine, no offense), he is very good to play an alcoholic.
And anyway, just because 8mm, Leaving Las Vegas, and the other movie where he's playing a parametic driver, doesn't make him a good actor. It makes his agent very clever and with good taste for good films. It also makes him neupheu (sp!!!!!!!!) of Copola no?
Quote from: DGMacphee on Sat 01/10/2005 09:47:42
I can't believe no one has mentioned Leaving Las Vegas. The majority of people in this thread have said Cage sucks and no one has even mentioned Leaving Las Vegas, one of the most harrowing and most beautiful films about love... one of the most harrowing about alcoholism. The same movie in which Roger Ebert said in his review, "Cage, a resourceful and daring actor, has never been better." The same movie in which Cage won his Best Actor Oscar along with nearly every other Best Actor award for that year.
I don't care how many National Treasures or The Family Mans he makes. The fucker can act. He's got potential. He got game. Leaving Las Vegas is bullseye proof of that. End of story.
Hey remember that movie "Honeymoon in Vegas" where he was married to Sarah Jessica Parker and it was all Indecent Proposal-ed and stuff? I still to this day confuse it with "Leaving Las Vegas" when people talk about it, which leads to some hilarious misunderstandings!
I don't think he's a bad actor. He's certainly no Dennis Hopper. Even though I hated the movie, he was good in Adaptation.
And because he was mentioned, I have a feeling that my destiny in life is to explode Ben Affleck somehow. That'll take that smug look he always has off his face, that's for damn sure. And I'll be all "WHO'S SQUINTING AND CHUCKLING STUPIDLY NOW, AFFLECK!"
HahahahahaWHAT THE F..... What is going on in your avatar, man?
::nightmares::
That's two creepy av's in one night. I've had enough. Bed for me....
Nik: "stupid face" sounds like a two year old's insult, but in context (Nik Cage being the context) I can see how it is actually a very mature adult statement...
Which is somehow very hilarious. Dammit, I WANTED to like National Treasure... But that stupid face was way too much...
Quote from: esper on Sat 01/10/2005 12:09:39
HahahahahaWHAT THE F..... What is going on in your avatar, man?
::nightmares::
That's two creepy av's in one night. I've had enough. Bed for me....
The best part about that is that Mr. Colossal made the animation that I stole as my avatar. You just fear him subconciously!
Either that or the idea that Supergirl is being molested by a kangaroo penis coming out of someone's pants is somehow disturbing to some people... but I do not see how that could be.
Holy crap, I am dumb tonight. I apologize for the double post. I just HAD to replace 'tentacle' with 'kangaroo penis' and there I go screwing things up!
I GUESS IT IS WHAT I DO.
DG! Where the freaking hell have you been? Everyone here cries when you're not around. I know I do. ;_;
I can settle this argument with only two words:
Con-Air.
QuoteDG! Where the freaking hell have you been? Everyone here cries when you're not around. I know I do. ;_;
I've been around. I'm like a magic leprechaun. You have to try and CATCH ME and get me LUCKY CHARMS!
Quote from: Squinky on Sat 01/10/2005 15:49:58
I can settle this argument with only two words:
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Quote from: Squinky on Sat 01/10/2005 15:49:58
I can settle this argument with only two words:
Con-Air.
That settles it. Nicholas Cage
is worse than Hitler!
I'm glad we got that out of the way.
I have stated this before 'round these parts, but I'll say it again.
I think, a lot of the time, it's the director. Not necessarily if they are a great director, but how well they work with the actor/actress.
Nicolas Cage, like most actors, has his great roles, and he has his bad roles.
As Daniel mentioned (good to "see" you again DG!) Leaving Las Vegas which was directed by Mike Figgis. A less than well known director (watch The Loss of Sexual Innocense it's ... interesting). This is a great performance by Mr. Cage.
My favorite Cage movie is Red Rock West directed by John Dahl (who directed Rounders and The Last Seduction). It's a little known movie and not a great one, but it was a good preformance by Cage.
But then you have the gems like Windtalkers and Firebirds.
I am not a fan of Nicolas Cage, I don't hate him but, I can understand your feelings Kinoko.
I have this friend who hates both Nicolas Cage and Bret Favre with such passion it sometimes scares me. I think you'd like him Kinoko :)
Sorry to beat on this dead-horse of a topic, but I thought Kinoko would love this tidbit of news that Nicholas Cage has decided to name his son after Superman..
See more about the story here! (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/en_nm/cage_dc;_ylt=AoccP0CbsHUQ9Pciza9gpcNxFb8C;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)
So, now you'll have to put up with "Superman Cage" floating around. hehehe! :D
At least no one will pick on him at school.
Oh dear.
What on this earth are parents that do this thinking?
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 04/10/2005 04:55:42
Oh dear.
What on this earth are parents that do this thinking?
Ok, what about Posh (former Spice girl) and super duper football god (see, no names) have given their son (3 years old, I believe?) tatoos. What about that?
What an amazing idea...
What about that? Well, gosh, that's a silly name too.
EDIT: My mistake, I read that wrong. Tattoo would be a silly name though. Giving a child/baby a tattoo should be considered child abuse.
Quote from: nikolasideris on Tue 04/10/2005 09:12:46
blah-blah and so-and-so have given their son (3 years old, I believe?) tatoos. What about that?
What an amazing idea...
Seriously! That's awesome! It's like those little tablets that you put in hot water, right? and they grow into big dinosaur sponges. Except, instead of a tablet, it's a living baby! And instead of a dinosaur sponge... it's an adult with a really stretched out tatoo of a soccer (foot) ball and a high psychiatrist bill because of his parent-issues!
Kinoko, sorry it's also my mistake. It's tattoos and not tatoo!
Anyway this is a true story. But it is amazing! And I wish this "parents" could spend some time with a phychiatrist to sort out all their problems.
Well, me as a father would never do that to my son. Of course he's only 21 months old, so I still have time!!!!!! :P
well, anybody who've seen Adaptation will know that Nicholas Cage can act.
one great movie. excellent.
and i think Tom Cruise is also one of the better actors around.
if you don't think so, watch Magnolia.
"What am I doing? I am quietly judging you."
and Vanilla Sky is also really good.
however, the best actor out there is Jonnhy Depp. just cause every time u see him, u see a completely different actor and u see the character he is playing, and not the actor playing the role.
roles like Dan Joun De Marco (have no idea how to spell it), Secret Window, Edward Scissorhands, and of course Pirates of the Caribbean are just brilliant cause he makes it brilliant. Pirates of the Caribbean would really have been an ordinary movie if it wasnt for Depp's brilliant character.
i dont know who u guys think r good actors, since the rest just plays in stupid romantic comedies or boring "big budget movies".
if u wanna talk about BAD actors, talk about Icecube and that Texas Ranger.
I'll give ya Johnny Depp. But, I don't think I've ever seen him play as a normal person. He's kinda got a niche playing eccentric characters...
Then you need to get yourself down to the video store and see Nick of Time, my friend. JD plays a totally ordinary person and he does it BRILLIANTLY. That there is a performance you can't blame on the quirkiness of the role or the fact that it's a Tim Burton film. Ordinary, but fantastic. One of my favourite JD roles ever.
:( Girls like Johnny Depp more than they like real people :(
You know what I thought when I walked out of "Once Upon a Time in Mexico?" I thought...
That was the stupidest movie I've ever seen. I loved it.
And it was all Johnny Depp's fault.
As for the other recect posts here: First, Posh Spice has always needed to be beaten repeatedly with her own ripped-off arms anyways. I think throwing her baby to the fires of Moloch would be totally justifiable as a mercy killing. And for Nicholas Cage and.... Kal-el???Ã, :o
I heard them making fun of it on the news, but I never actually heard which of the many names for Superman he had actually used of the many they were making fun of him by. What a moron. Even if he could act, he's still a total cretin.
The child is destined to be a dick anyway.
Johnny Depp has profited enormously from the fact he looks like Blazej Dzikowski.
Quote from: Mordalles on Tue 04/10/2005 22:09:44
and Vanilla Sky is also really good.
No it's not! Sorry mate but it's not a good movei. It is an exact replicate from a Spanish, or Portoguise (sp) movie where Penelope was pleying the bad girl...
But since we are starting to discuss things a little more seriously, let me say a couple of things:
Well, even I, if I had the chance to make as many takes as I wanted to, I would be able to act! And one movie the cannot be questioned (with Tom Cruise), is Eyes Wide Shut. But it's a great movie because of Cubric and not Cruise...
Anyway an actor can prove if he/she's worthy on the theater and not on a screen, for the reason mentioned above. And of course, me, at least, feel a little insecure judgeing people I don't know, about something they do for which I know nothing...
I'm not an expert, I'm a composer. I could very well judge any music you give me but for the rest no. The rest comes to personal taste. It is kinda weird though, that most people seem to agree on that personal taste (like that Nicholas Cage sucks as an actor).
And of course there will be films that will show that Cage can act! And for God's shake, he's being paid enormous ammounts of money, for a lot of years now. He must be doing something right? There's no way a tottally untalented actor could get away with 10+ films...
The same goes for Tom Cruise... And Magnolia was a great film by Anderso/en, who is amazing...
But the child is destined to be a dick anyway.
Who is Blazej Dzikowski? I won't google it... ;D
Quote from: Nikolas on Wed 05/10/2005 09:20:46
Who is Blazej Dzikowski? I won't google it... ;D
(http://www.nolore.com/picmisc/goldmund.jpg)
He's Goldmund. Polish writer and porn actor.
Quote from: Andail on Wed 05/10/2005 16:09:37
He's Goldmund. Polish writer and porn actor.
If he's a porn actor he has my utter respect!
Quote from: Nikolas on Wed 05/10/2005 09:20:46
Quote from: Mordalles on Tue 04/10/2005 22:09:44
and Vanilla Sky is also really good.
No it's not! Sorry mate but it's not a good movei. It is an exact replicate from a Spanish, or Portoguise (sp) movie where Penelope was pleying the bad girl...
yeah, i know its based on a spanish movie, and a lot of spanish complained.
i didnt like it the 1st time, for some reason, but when i watched it again i loved it.
anyway, its a matter of opinion. some hate the movie, some love the movie. im with the latter.
Quote from: Nikolas on Wed 05/10/2005 09:20:46Who is Blazej Dzikowski? I won't google it...
Quote from: Andail on Wed 05/10/2005 16:09:37He's Goldmund. Polish writer and porn actor.
I did some googling and found out this guys into some pretty kinky stuff
(http://www.plfoto.com/zdjecia/205607.jpg)
that's the trouble with movie, everybody's a movie critic.
Johnny Depp is one of those actors that comes along once every so often, there ain't any actors better than him ...
I never really thought much of tom cruise, until i watched magnolia, and that lawyer movie. He is an enormously talented actor.
Nicole Kidman is the excellent, like johnny, the depth in roles she playes and how she lives in them is outstanding.
right now, let the rest of you of course give your opinions ...
Quote from: Kinoko on Fri 30/09/2005 13:34:40
Does anyone think that Nicholas Cage is a hideous actor? Every time I see him, I can't see the character he's playing, I see a guy acting. He can't play different types of people. he can't do accents, he can't display emotion, and he especially can't convincingly play a character that's clever.
So, anyone else agree?
I agree, but I rather like him actually. It's always Nick, but I'm cool with that.
Quote from: Kinoko on Wed 05/10/2005 04:46:26
Then you need to get yourself down to the video store and see Nick of Time, my friend. JD plays a totally ordinary person and he does it BRILLIANTLY. That there is a performance you can't blame on the quirkiness of the role or the fact that it's a Tim Burton film. Ordinary, but fantastic. One of my favourite JD roles ever.
I'll have to check that out, I've never seen him play a "normal" role....
edit:
Wait a minute, was that the one where he had to run around and so some crazy crap for like terrorists or something?
Johnny Depp also plays a normal role in "Whats eating Gilbert Grape".
Yeah, but it's an eccentric movie.....
Squinky is not gonna give up that Depp/eccentricity-thesis just like that