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Title: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Bulbapuck on Fri 02/12/2011 18:13:17
I went to youtube today to find that they had switched to a horrible design.

Does anyone know if they're just testing the design? Can you go back to the way it were before?
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:31:52
I've grown VERY sick of youTube lately... you go to their site and there are ads everywhere, then you attempt to start your video and guess what?  Commercials. 

Now all video providers are doing this (following suit).  I just close the browser whenever a commercial starts.  I was able to tolerate it when it was just that little google popup over the bottom of the video that you could easily close but now they force commercials on you that you can't skip.  It's nothing but annoying.

My point?  Their new design doesn't matter to me :)

Title: Die youtube! Die!
Post by: Igor Hardy on Fri 02/12/2011 18:35:33
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:31:52
I've grown VERY sick of youTube lately... you go to their site and there are ads everywhere, then you attempt to start your video and guess what?  Commercials.  

Now all video providers are doing this (following suit).  I just close the browser whenever a commercial starts.  I was able to tolerate it when it was just that little google popup over the bottom of the video that you could easily close but now they force commercials on you that you can't skip.  It's nothing but annoying.

My point?  Their new design doesn't matter to me :)

Use Adblock. It kills all the intrusive ones.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:38:18
Adblock will remove the ads around the videos (on the HTML part of the page) but it won't stop the overlays on the videos (or the commercials before the videos).

I can ignore the ads on the page... but there's nothing you can do (AFAIK) about the ones covering your videos.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: on Fri 02/12/2011 18:40:22
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:31:52
I've grown VERY sick of youTube lately... you go to their site and there are ads everywhere, then you attempt to start your video and guess what?  Commercials. 

It's even better in Germany, where roughly 40% of all videos will tell you they are not available to you.  :P

New design doesn't look THAT bad in my opinion.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Babar on Fri 02/12/2011 18:55:00
I'm fairly annoyed with the new design, because before where I could see in one glance what all my cool (AGS :P) friends uploaded/favourited or liked, now it is trying to copy facebook's update style (one update at a time, and you have to scroll down), so if there is one "commercial" channel you follow, chances are, it'll flood everything else out.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Bulbapuck on Fri 02/12/2011 19:05:06
Quote from: Babar on Fri 02/12/2011 18:55:00
...now it is trying to copy facebook's update style (one update at a time, and you have to scroll down), so if there is one "commercial" channel you follow, chances are, it'll flood everything else out.

Exactly, and what have they put in the room which they save? "Connect to facebook and google+ and hoohoo and gobblediidoo"...
I spent an hour trying to find a button to turn everything back, but now I've given up hope :'(
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Stupot on Fri 02/12/2011 19:07:17
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:38:18
Adblock will remove the ads around the videos (on the HTML part of the page) but it won't stop the overlays on the videos (or the commercials before the videos).

I can ignore the ads on the page... but there's nothing you can do (AFAIK) about the ones covering your videos.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/epbmnbdplhcomkedpjfceakddnbgfjmf

This works.  It puts a little blue button just above the video which you can click during an advert and it skips to the main video.

As for the design, I don't really mind it much.  It's kind of more in line with G+ and other Google products which have been redesigned in the G+ mould.  Functionality-wise, nine times out of ten, if I'm on Youtube, I'm just following links or typing searches, so it makes little difference to me as long as I can watch the videos.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Radiant on Fri 02/12/2011 19:13:34
Youtube is like Facebook, who also switched to a horrible design lately.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Daniel Eakins on Fri 02/12/2011 19:53:15
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:38:18
Adblock will remove the ads around the videos (on the HTML part of the page) but it won't stop the overlays on the videos (or the commercials before the videos).

I can ignore the ads on the page... but there's nothing you can do (AFAIK) about the ones covering your videos.

I'm using Adblock Plus and it removes all the ads whether they're around, inside or before the videos. It might depends on your filter subscription (I use the one called "EasyList").
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Igor Hardy on Fri 02/12/2011 20:08:27
Waht Daniel said.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 21:51:44
I did not know this!

Thanks for the info... you learned me somethin' new today :)
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Peder 🚀 on Fri 02/12/2011 23:04:01
Is it just me or does it look really blurry? :-\
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: arj0n on Fri 02/12/2011 23:23:04
Quote from: Peder Johnsen+ on Fri 02/12/2011 23:04:01
Is it just me or does it look really blurry? :-\
Your avatar or youtube...?  ;D
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Peder 🚀 on Fri 02/12/2011 23:48:51
haha :P. Youtube!
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: LUniqueDan on Fri 02/12/2011 23:58:50
Quote from: Daniel Eakins on Fri 02/12/2011 19:53:15
I'm using Adblock Plus and it removes all the ads whether they're around, inside or before the videos. It might depends on your filter subscription (I use the one called "EasyList").

Oh Yeah!! You just made my day.

(Tx Ascovel Too.)
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: vertigoaddict on Sat 03/12/2011 01:03:11
Quote from: Ghost on Fri 02/12/2011 18:40:22
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 02/12/2011 18:31:52
I've grown VERY sick of youTube lately... you go to their site and there are ads everywhere, then you attempt to start your video and guess what?  Commercials. 

It's even better in Germany, where roughly 40% of all videos will tell you they are not available to you.  :P

New design doesn't look THAT bad in my opinion.

Here's something I figured out, if a video is blocked in the country you're in...download it with file2hd.com . I mean it's not really the nicest thing you could do but I was sick of seeing the 'unavailable in your country' page especially when you go back n forth between countries.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Tuomas on Sat 03/12/2011 01:10:26
And this basically downloads it on your computer?
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: vertigoaddict on Sat 03/12/2011 02:08:51
Yes, it does and it's not the most legally sound thing to do but as long as you don't redistribute it (re-upload) then it shouldn't be too big of a problem. If you just want to watch it once, just delete the file afterwards.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Bulbapuck on Sat 03/12/2011 11:22:26
Don't know if I should post this seeing that the thread is now mostly about ads, but I found a way to get the old design back ;D
http://www.youtube.com/home
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Babar on Sat 03/12/2011 13:28:08
Always having had Adblock Plus, and not knowing much internet without it, I often miss out on new "Oh no, they've started having ads in ......." stuff like that.

I didn't even KNOW that youtube was full of ads now. I just see the occasional user-inserted overlay things where they're doing self-promotion or something.


The forums don't use ads, do they?! :o
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: blueskirt on Sat 03/12/2011 19:18:32
I'm one step ahead of you all, I hate all new designs, period. For some reason, all website updates have to be more bloated than the previous ones. And I don't like wasting my time learning once again where the buttons and features I use the most are, which is the number one reason why I'm not changing OS, browsers, keyboard layout, music player, chatting program or drawing software.

In fact, my desktop has not changed in 11 years. The first thing I did when I updated to XP was to revert to the classic windows look. I listen music in the same program I grabbed when I downloaded the Pleurghburg soundtrack, I still use Paint Shop Pro 7, which was taught to us in college, I still use mIRC, and I still use the skin a friend made when we were in college, and I use Opera since 2003 or so and every time I updated it I had to fight tooth and nail to disable most of the new features and make it look exactly how it looked before I updated it.

I miss the days where I could open 70 different tabs in Opera without hogging all the memory, without making the browser stutter. Yep, there was such a time.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Dualnames on Sat 03/12/2011 19:35:37
I hate changes, why did youtube had to change to such an extent? I can't remove a video after I've seen it, the subscriptions are now entirely glitched, the new layout offers EXACTLY nothing new, and people complain about ads I already have removed. A totally wrong move.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: monkey0506 on Sat 03/12/2011 20:56:58
Am I the only person who couldn't care less about it because the search feature and playback haven't really changed as a result of this redesign?
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Stupot on Sat 03/12/2011 21:05:11
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sat 03/12/2011 20:56:58
Am I the only person who couldn't care less about it because the search feature and playback haven't really changed as a result of this redesign?

Nope, me neither.  I wouldn't call myself much of a 'user' of Youtube.  I just watch videos on it.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Ryan Timothy B on Sun 04/12/2011 12:09:10
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sat 03/12/2011 20:56:58
Am I the only person who couldn't care less about it because the search feature and playback haven't really changed as a result of this redesign?
lol Same.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: WHAM on Sun 04/12/2011 16:30:07
Complaining about ads is pointless: ads will continue to exist and prosper for as long as people want to be paid for their creations and other people are unwilling to pay, but still want the content. It's a price you pay if you want the content.

The new layout is fine by me, although it does trouble me that where the old one could be easily customized, the new cannot. Makes differentiating between channels and styles a bit harder.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: on Mon 05/12/2011 18:18:33
Not a fan. I don't really need all websites to look like they're designed for blackberry phones. Just one of those sites that feel they need to be better on a phone than on an internet browser. I don't need a gigantic gold bar telling me VIDEO IS UPLOADED!!!1 when small red text used to do that fine - I have a big enough monitor not a 5 inch LCD screen. Oh well. Also the "Try the new design!" always seems like a con to me. I know even if I don't try it they're still going to switch me over to it.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Tuomas on Mon 05/12/2011 19:05:01
Seeing as how most big sites already have mobile versions, youtube included, that would seem a bit daft. I guess it's for elderly people :) Also, I can see how when the screen is full of stuff, like, in the worst possible case, the www.ryanair.com site, you need to have huge red text stating what is important and worthwhile and what not.

And yeah, at least in facebook it seems that the whole "try the new design" is rather a notification or a commercial of what's inevitable so that people will start talking about it before everyone gets it. It's like a hat in elementary school that says "wear this to get lice".
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Peder 🚀 on Mon 05/12/2011 19:17:28
Quote from: m0ds on Mon 05/12/2011 18:18:33
"Try the new design!"

It is all about having users try it before they launch it so they can get some feedback and possibly do last minute changes.
At least this would be the only reason I would ever do something like that, to get feedback on the new system/design and to be able to do changes before forcing everyone to use it incase there is something completely off that those who try finds and then hopefully notify.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Stupot on Mon 05/12/2011 21:08:21
Quote from: m0ds on Mon 05/12/2011 18:18:33
"Try the new design!"

You had a choice? I didn't.  I just went to Youtube one day and it looked different. Oh wells.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: on Mon 05/12/2011 23:33:10
Quote from: Stupot+ on Mon 05/12/2011 21:08:21
Quote from: m0ds on Mon 05/12/2011 18:18:33
"Try the new design!"

You had a choice? I didn't.  I just went to Youtube one day and it looked different. Oh wells.

Oh yesh, I hadn't seen the overall design. meh! My account view was where I must have been given the choice, but I chose not to change my channel to the new style at this point. Some of it still made it through to the video pages, giant coloured bars telling me "This is a video". Oh well, time for me to get used to the fact websites for the mouse are out, in come the swishy-finger versions.   :-\
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Sam. on Tue 06/12/2011 22:06:24
I don't understand why people moan when websites change design, at least they're trying to stay relevant and fresh.

Or not?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LWBWYe0RKU0/ToCmwj_GZuI/AAAAAAAAAt8/04344lRMwgE/s1600/Google1998.png)
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Babar on Wed 07/12/2011 06:32:03
Now you've got me nostalgic and yearning.

BRING BACK ORIGINAL GOOGLE! :D

Be honest, visually, interface-wise, there really isn't any difference, and everything that can be done now could technically be done through the same interface (I guess they didn't have image search and such, but that'd just be an extra button).
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Sam. on Wed 07/12/2011 10:05:39
I can guarantee there will be a design team who would think VERY differently Babar!
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Tabata on Wed 07/12/2011 17:45:49
Quote from: Babar on Wed 07/12/2011 06:32:03
BRING BACK ORIGINAL GOOGLE! :D
...

(I guess they didn't have image search and such, but that'd just be an extra button).

Only a little note:
Google (still) has image search - and it works quite well ;)
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: monkey0506 on Wed 07/12/2011 23:00:02
Haha Tabata, he wasn't talking about Google Images (http://images.google.com/), he was talking about the bit where you upload or paste the URL of an image and Google tries to automatically determine what the image is of, and generates a search token based on those results. ;)
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Tabata on Wed 07/12/2011 23:22:10
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Wed 07/12/2011 23:00:02
Haha Tabata, he wasn't talking about Google Images (http://images.google.com/), he was talking about the bit where you upload or paste the URL of an image and Google tries to automatically determine what the image is of, and generates a search token based on those results. ;)

... but that is exatly, what it does  ::)

Now I am confused - but sorry if I missed it   (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12962/tuete_girl.gif)
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Turtiathan on Sun 11/12/2011 01:54:56
I agree but we will eventually get used to it. That is usually what happens. The reason they change the layout all the time is so they can appear useful to the company. As a result, they get to keep their jobs.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: TerranRich on Tue 20/12/2011 08:26:55
Ahh, "Google! beta"... back when sites in beta status didn't stay in beta status for FRICKIN' YEARS.

But yeah, people sometimes bitch and moan about every little layout change. YouTube's change was jarring at first, but it grew on me. I only complain about design changes when things become unintuitive, harder to use, hidden, or obscured. Or, as is the case with Facebook, less secure and more invasive.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: TomatoesInTheHead on Tue 20/12/2011 10:10:39
The thing I hate most is that I can no longer be logged in to YouTube with one account and to Gmail with another account. I don't want to use the same account for everything, and their "multiple sign-in" thing doesn't work (yet?) as promised.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Bulbapuck on Tue 20/12/2011 13:55:11
Quote from: TomatoesInTheHead on Tue 20/12/2011 10:10:39
The thing I hate most is that I can no longer be logged in to YouTube with one account and to Gmail with another account. I don't want to use the same account for everything, and their "multiple sign-in" thing doesn't work (yet?) as promised.
YES! And even if I wanted to, I can't even connect my two accounts due to some bug. CURSES!
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: LUniqueDan on Fri 10/02/2012 07:12:31
Anybodies notice the new talking adds and want to rant about it?
Please.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 10/02/2012 09:02:30
No. USE ADBLOCK.
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: Anian on Fri 10/02/2012 10:00:38
Quote from: Dualnames on Fri 10/02/2012 09:02:30
No. USE ADBLOCK.
You have no idea how superior I feel when people say they see adverts I didn't even know about.  ;D
Title: Re: Why youtube? Why?
Post by: LUniqueDan on Fri 10/02/2012 18:18:50
Quote from: Dualnames on Fri 10/02/2012 09:02:30
No. USE ADBLOCK.

Yeah right! I rebooted my computer since the beginning of the thread and totally forgot that there was a solution.

For people who are missing the fun, you watch a vid trying to focus on what the guy said and the adds starts randomly - louder than the vid- , there's an average of 2/page and while they can be muted they unmuted themselves at random. Sometimes both of them starts altogether. And last night I felt asleep with a YT tab opened...