wow, mspaint

Moox · Sat 18/02/2006 05:32:57

http://www.ubersite.com/m/84167

Evil · Sat 18/02/2006 05:57:50

Not even all that good. You could sit a monkey infront of MSPaint untill he draws it like the picture.

Squinky · Sat 18/02/2006 06:05:48

Once again, monkeys have one up on me then.

Alun · Sat 18/02/2006 06:07:07

Um, what? Evil, are you looking at the same page here? (Or are you sure the image has fully loaded?) That's incredibly impressive work in MSPaint. Very few people could make an image of that quality without copying and pasting even with a high-end graphics tool.

Gregjazz · Sat 18/02/2006 06:16:55

There are some parts of the big picture that are impressive... and there are some parts that are so-so. Anyway, it's a very impressive amount of work.

big brother · Sat 18/02/2006 06:53:46

Ultimately, it's the artist, not the tools. With a better pixel program, he could've made the same ridiculously (not quite contiguous) large scene in less time. Perhaps even unified a palette/level of detail/artistic style.

It's painfully obvious where the reference pictures where used (citiscape, eel-creature, penguin, mouse, panda, all the video game chars, sniper, and Gandalf).

QuoteVery few people could make an image of that quality without copying and pasting even with a high-end graphics tool.

Hmmmm.... I don't know.

For those who bothered to look, the rest of his art is more or less imitations of pre-Raphaelite junk, minus any figures. Still lifes and landscapes -- the bottom rung of the traditional art hierarchy.

Alun · Sat 18/02/2006 07:43:48

Quote from: big brother on Sat 18/02/2006 06:53:46
Ultimately, it's the artist, not the tools. With a better pixel program, he could've made the same ridiculously (not quite contiguous) large scene in less time. Perhaps even unified a palette/level of detail/artistic style.

Well of course; I think that pretty much goes without saying. This certainly doesn't demonstrate that MSPaint has untapped power; obviously he could have done it better and faster in a more high-end program. I think that was the point, though, showing what he could do even with a very limited tool. Yes, with Photoshop or something similar it would have been a lot easier to do, but that would have defeated the purpose.

QuoteIt's painfully obvious where the reference pictures where used (citiscape, eel-creature, penguin, mouse, panda, all the video game chars, sniper, and Gandalf).

Agreed, but so what? Even with reference pictures, most people wouldn't be able to produce something like that.

(Side note: The "eel creature" is, FWIW, an anglerfish. And...it's not one of the better parts of the picture. I can tell what it's supposed to be, but it doesn't look all that much like one.)

QuoteFor those who bothered to look, the rest of his art is more or less imitations of pre-Raphaelite junk, minus any figures. Still lifes and landscapes -- the bottom rung of the traditional art hierarchy.

The rest of his work has little bearing on that particular work. I'm not saying the work is absolutely one of a kind; I'm sure any skilled artist would be able to make something like that. But very few people are skilled artists.

That being said, yeah, thinking about it, maybe I did overstate the point a bit. I still certainly disagree with Evil's assessment that it looks like something a monkey could draw, but "incredibly impressive" may be going a bit too far. Just about any experienced artist probably could have produced something like this, building up from large, solid areas to details, if he took the time to do so. So I guess the impressive aspect of it really comes more from the fact he took all the time that would have been necessary to do this with MSPaint.

(And yeah, like Geoffkhan said, some parts are certainly more impressive than others. The waterfall, the cityscape, and the depiction of Gandalf are probably the high points, but the part with Pikachu and the anglerfish isn't so great, the mouse at the center of the Earth isn't all that hot (er...no pun intended), the cave and the magma are very simplistic, and, heck, the two sprites by the miner any idiot could have reproduced from suitable reference material.)

Yeah...after the glow of the first impression has worn off, though, you kind of have a point. It grabs your attention when you first look at it, given how people think of MSPaint as this limited program, but thinking about it further...yeah, this isn't something that would have been beyond the abilities of any skilled artist, even with MSPaint; it's just that most wouldn't have bothered to take the time to do it with such a limited program.

Oh, well. Still kind of a nifty picture, I guess. Or at least parts of it are.

Gregjazz · Sat 18/02/2006 07:52:29

Quote from: Alun_Clewe on Sat 18/02/2006 07:43:48
Agreed, but so what? Even with reference pictures, most people wouldn't be able to produce something like that.

One thing that I'm reminded of is a little misconception of the term "reference picture." A lot of times I see near-direct traces of an image, and then the term "reference picture" is used (I'm not necessarily referring to this mspaint work, of course). In my opinion, "true" reference pictures are those pictures that you use only to perceive certain details and realize them in your own work.

Nothing wrong with tracing or copying from something else, though. That's a great way to learn!

Kinoko · Sat 18/02/2006 10:26:05

What? You mean... he didn't look at pictures of Gandalf to get an idea of the guy in his head, then draw him from memory?! I am SO disillusioned!! >_<

Seriously, who cares. The picture is fucking amazing. You're all just sour cause you guys aren't cool enough to have thought of doing this yourself.

Babies. Â¬_Â¬

Afflict · Sat 18/02/2006 11:31:32

Give the devil his due!! Man thats awesome .
But as mentioned he could of probably done
it in half the time with something else. o wel
its his time.

Once again WOW!

Anybody with a slow connection its a 3.2mb file!

m0ds · Sat 18/02/2006 17:52:19

The gandalf picture is awesome, most impressive paint artwork. Evil I think you're silly for missing the point that what makes it most amazing (at least to me) is that someone DID try and do it in MS Paint!

Anyway the rest of his pictures suck.

Kidding

Kweepa · Sat 18/02/2006 18:45:24

How quickly you forget Opo Terser, our (semi-resident) MSPainter.

That's good MSPaint, not this hackneyed rubbish.

vict0r · Sat 18/02/2006 18:52:05

I can't see the pic... $:-\$

Nikolas · Sat 18/02/2006 18:56:52

I think that you have to wait a little longer Victor. How long did you wait?

I, with a 2.2 Mbps connection had to wait for around a minute or so...

vict0r · Sat 18/02/2006 19:03:36

Err... I have 100 Mbps, and i waited for some time...

Why wont someone just post the pic here?

Nikolas · Sat 18/02/2006 19:13:51

In bmp format it's 20 Mb (!!!!)

but here it is (hopefully). Have a nice time scrolling down everybody:

For Victor to see...

Then you are free to edit my post.

DanClarke · Sat 18/02/2006 19:27:29

Personally i dont think it's great. Just a collection of MS paint images and as mentioned, its more to do with the time spent than actual talent. Opo Terser's stuff is amazing in comparison IMO.

Damien · Sat 18/02/2006 19:31:01

So, if something looks good because some time was spent on it, it's actually bad?

Opo Terser · Sat 18/02/2006 20:40:49

Wow, I haven't been here in forever, glad to see people still remember me.

Tom S. Fox · Sat 18/02/2006 21:16:00

I don't know what most of you are talking aboot!!!
This is a mother-f*cking sweet piece of art!

wow, mspaint

m0ds