Your thoughts on A.I. art creation

Started by Racoon, Sun 07/08/2022 21:08:14

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Blondbraid

It's a video on writing rather than art, but the reasoning still applies.

LimpingFish

#181
Ah, the weird, wild world of AI slop...

It's in "Triple-A" games now, because of course it is. Generative AI, the great artistic leveler, freeing ART itself from cruel, unfair gatekeeping, providing "the little guy" with the tools to...oh, never mind...it's mostly of benefit to disgustingly wealthy publishers, desperate to find new avenues of easily exploitable profit. Who knew?

Also, this is quite funny.

AI in general is in a weirder place currently than it has been over the last year or so. :-\
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Danvzare

Don't forget this.
I find it funny how China is America's number 1 enemy, now that they're officially worse than China.  (laugh)

And the proposed solution is pretty much just to give corporations exemption from following copyright laws... which if you think about it, is already the case (I mean honestly, how often does a little guy win a copyright case?). They clearly just want it in writing though, so everyone can get off their back about it.

Daymond

With the help of artificial intelligence, it is indeed possible to create real masterpieces. You have to keep up with the times. And use everything to the maximum to achieve your goals.

VampireWombat

The only way AI can create masterpieces is if it's stealing from actual masterpieces. But it's no more of a masterpiece than if I downloaded an image of the Mona Lisa and put it on a t-shirt. Real masterpieces are created by people who have spent years of dedication to their craft and then put part of themselves into the creation of the art in a way that people feel an emotional connection to. AI is incapable of doing more than mimicry. AI is like fast food. It's quick, takes little skill to create, and easily forgotten.

Danvzare

Quote from: Daymond on Sat 12/04/2025 11:52:07With the help of artificial intelligence, it is indeed possible to create real masterpieces. You have to keep up with the times. And use everything to the maximum to achieve your goals.
With the help of genAI, then yes... it should indeed be possible to create a masterpiece.
The problem is, the people who are capable of making a masterpiece are the same people who would almost certainly never use genAI to aid their development process.

You ever notice how the best art, is always the stuff that's harder to make? A good example would be stop-motion vs CGI.
It's almost as though the more difficult it is to make something, the more effort people put into making it.  (laugh)

Crimson Wizard

#186
Speaking of AI... There's something that I might mention. Recently (last couple of years or so) there have been certain number of spambots pretending to be humans posting on the AGS forums. Some of them were later uncovered as ones, some only suspected. Personally, I suspect [redacted], and also couple others recently active new users, but I also understand that it's not correct to blame without evidence, so won't. It's moderators' business.

Usually my suspicion triggers when there's a combination of following factors:
- It's a new user who just registered today or a couple of days ago;
- Has a simple forum name which looks auto-generated (this may be a subjective impression, of course);
- Makes a seemingly random or generic post, or several generic posts, very simple in nature (no actual useful information, citing stereotypic opinion, etc);
- Does not give any information about themselves (who they are, what games they play, what games they make, etc)
- Never replies back in the same thread, regardless of anyone replying to them.

My argument is that it's unlikely for a human to register on a adventure gaming tool forum only to immediately make a generic post or two and not engage in a conversation. Note: if you go to the user's profile, you may click on "Show Posts" link, and see everything they posted on forums so far.

Often, when checking on these users again, we can notice that they have spam links appearing either in their posts (by edit) or their signatures.

Snarky

#187
(I just deleted the post CW linked to and banned the poster, so the link doesn't work any longer.)

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Mon 21/04/2025 11:07:50I also understand that it's not correct to blame without evidence, so won't.

You did, though.  :-D

As you know, Crimson, but others might not, the moderators keep an eye on certain posters we suspect may be spam bots, and as soon as we notice sufficient evidence (usually in the form of a spam link) they get banned. If any AGSers have suspicions about any member, new or old, please report one of their posts or send us a PM rather than speculating in public.

The moderators take slightly different attitudes to this, but personally I apply a policy of "innocent until proven guilty," and consider the act of publicly accusing someone of possibly being a spam bot as potentially a form of harassment. (Also, if you are right, they are going to be banned soon and all their posts deleted, so posting about it just adds clutter to the forums.)

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