How do I
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escape once I sneak out of my room? Can't go downstairs and can't open any door.
Reckoned it. Off to Chapter 3.
I'm still stuck right there. Anyone?
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There's another flight of stairs right near your room, kind of in the corner of the screen.
I've got the disguise....now what?
To PS
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Time to take a long walk of a short pier, as they say. It's to the south.
Thank you!!!
I'm stuck on Day Four-
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I need a flute and I've seen one for sale in the city- but I don't have the money for it. Is there another flute? Is there a way to make money? I'm stumped.
Also, I randomly got killed by the Barghest... how do I avoid that?
Jenimad:
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Go for a swim. There's an island that is more than it seems. There's something valuable there you can sell to the jeweller, but only if you can see through the illusions. There might be a better way to get the money, but I haven't found it, yet.
For the barghest, there's a book in the monastery that tells you how to beat him. If you have the bottle, , something else in the monastery can also help. I think there is another solution to this puzzle, but it involves running, which I have never done succesfully.
I'm stuck not far from there:
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After the flute gets stolen I pinched the shield from the blacksmith, but I can't get out of the city without him taking it back. Is there anyway to get the guards to let me out the front gate, yet?
Unfortunately, I'm still stuck...
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All I've been able to find from swimming around is a little alcove with a conch shell- which sells for 1 ducat. I tried using the water-bored stone around and on the shell, but I couldn't find anything- so I'm wondering if I'm even in the right place...
Thanks for the tip on the barghest- I hadn't even thought of that, and it worked like a charm ^_^
I can't seem to figure out how to get into the city again... the guards won't let me pass...
Oops, nm.
Quote from: Ledz on Mon 16/07/2007 19:54:24
I can't seem to figure out how to get into the city again... the guards won't let me pass...
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Have you been inside the shed on the way to the hamlet where the druid lives? Have you also been to the cornfield north of the city gate?
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I couldn't get inside the shed yet, the only way that seemed logical to open it was with a pin but it said I can't pick locks, and been to the field but the scarecrow is pretty useless...
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I guess that's not how you spoiler tag.ledz
ok registered now and figured out how to get into the shed :) thanks!
Jenimad-
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Head straight east from the shore above the mercenary camp.
Ignore my last problem. I solved it. However,
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I've managed to visit the fairies, and have recieved quests from the seelie and unseelie, but I don't know where to start to solve either. The bard tells me to check out the village, but I go there and nothing new. Still goblins there, but there isn't much to interact with. The death poem when I try to enter the village seems to hint that I need to bring help somehow.
i'm stuck quite a bit before you guys, so i hope someone can help me
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i escaped from the castle, passed two guards and now stand in front of the tailor. i guess i need to get in, to find some clothing that doesn't look "foreign", but i can't. i tried to interact with the smithy's shop (hoping to get in to find something to get to the tailor) but i can't. I only have the notepad in my inventory. Tried to pass the guard by the harbour, too, but that didn't work. What am i missing?
To anyel:
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There's something in the stable you can use to break into the tailor's shop. The stable is by the city gate.
thank you Lyaer, i found it.
Thanks, Lyaer, I finally found the place ^_^
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But apparently I've really started to stink at this game- I've found some new items and such, but I can't make any progress on the whole stolen flute thing.
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I am on Day 4 and I don't know what to do next. I went to the island and got a brain in a jar but I don't know how to get the stone from the druid guy to see through illusions. I also think I should light my lantern with matches to look at the hole in the ancient tree north of the druid village but I can't get out of the city without soaking the matches I've bought and rendering them useless.
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did you find an animal for the druid?
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No. I found a wounded pigeon but he just healed it and I used it to trick the giant into thinking I am strong. I don't know what other animals there are that would work save the raven but I don't know what to do with it. It just sits there in a tree with a shiny thing in its mouth.
I've also just given the brain to the scarecrow, although I don't know if I should have done that.
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Okay. I've figured out from another person's post to make a wish at the well and now I've got the stone from the druid. Thanks for your reply Ledz.
Jenimad-
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It's time for some close reexamination of the beach scenes. Look for footprints.
Edit - Still stuck, for the record.
Just wondering ...
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Has anyone figured out if there's a way to beat those goblins at their dice game. I figure you need a good luck charm or something, but damned if I can find one. Thanks.
I'm stuck as well. I'm in chapter 5, and I can't seem to figure out how to
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get the girdle back from jeweler, which is something that I'm pretty sure I need to be able to enter the goblin-overrun village in the woods without getting instantly killed. The bard's hint says I need to resort to something sneaky and underhanded to get the girdle back without having to pay for it, but I am at a complete loss as to what that might be. If there is another way to get into the village without the goblins killing me, I'd be interested in that as well. :)
Any help would be greatly appreciated, since this seems to be the only place online so far where one can get hints for this game.
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Hmmm. I've got into the castle again, but have no idea what to do!
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Thanks again, Lyaer.
Made some real progress, I think, but I'm stuck again looking for a mirror.
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I found the Changeling's Comb, which will let me disguise myself as a goblin. HOWEVER, I need a mirror, and the only mirror I've seen is in the monestary... I can't pick it up and if I use it there I get killed.
I'm also stumped with getting out of the city without swimming and can't even begin to think of how to deal with the giant- or I could guess, but it appears I can't do that while the druid is hiding. I know where my belt is too, but am stumped there too.
Basically am good and stuck XD
Please help
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Icannot find the disguise
Quote from: rolyn on Tue 17/07/2007 12:28:48
Please help Spoiler
Icannot find the disguise
This isn't so much a hint as just a spoiler, but I couldn't think of what else to say:
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You need to break into the tailor's shop.
Thanks managed to find it.
Stuck on day three
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got lantern, coin, apple wine, bag, horseshoe, been to the city and in castle. Been captured by goblin (then reloaded as didn't know what to do) seen the princess but I'm killed there.
Thanks.
Quote from: GradyTn on Tue 17/07/2007 13:49:44
Stuck on day three
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got lantern, coin, apple wine, bag, horseshoe, been to the city and in castle. Been captured by goblin (then reloaded as didn't know what to do) seen the princess but I'm killed there.
Thanks.
I don't know entirely how to help, but with one situation-
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When captured by the goblins, try waiting around a bit until it's dark out- you'll be able to do something then.
...but I have to ask where/how you got the horseshoe and into the castle. I haven't been able to figure those out.
Thanks Jeni I'll try that. Horseshoe and castle
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The horseshoe is in the city stables in the open stable. I got into the city by using plant potion on the weed growing on the wall near the scarecrow. The potion can be found in the locked cabin in the woods area. You need the key to open the cabin which the old guy has. He'll let you take it from his inventory.
Jeni, oh, if you already made it to the city I made it into the castle by
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going there and talking to the guard there.
I'm stuck in chapter four.
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I gave the brain to the scarecrow, got the pumpkin, horseshoe, helped the bird, made the wish, and also got a note for buying back the girdle. I don't really know what to do next. I can break into the monastary, but I can't steal the orb, and the druid won't give me the bore hole thing. I've also already made a wish, and the raven in the tree is holding something shiny.
Also, where do I get enough money to buy the flute?
Still stuck on day three.
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Can't get an animal for the old man. Can't find a flute. I got the orb, talisman thing, seen the monastery, read those books there, swam in the ocean but died, got coin made animal wish, got bag of sand, seen the faerie, gave wine to goblins, seen scarecrow area, rock crusher guy, guy at bridge (don't know what he's about).
Alliance to hide your text [*hide]text here[*/hide] without using the asterisks.
Grady
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How did you get the orb?
One general note - if you don't know what you should be doing, ask Taliesin.
Yeah, I found him to be immensely helpful. Off topic, I love the characters in this game, especially him.
Alliance
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I used the coin in the well nest to the man in the woods and made the animal wish, but I don't think I can use the orb yet.
Radiant, I did and he tells me to go to the city which I've done. He's the blonde guy right?
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I spoke to the tailor, smithy, jeweler, stable boy, chancellor, got horseshoe, and seen the princess, but I die there.
And still stuck on chapter 3. :o
Quote from: GradyTn on Tue 17/07/2007 16:41:36
And still stuck on chapter 3. :o
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I think you have to leave the city by swimming without speaking with the princess to go to the next chapter. That is what i've done.
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I made the fairy wish, so I have to find a different way to get the squirrel. However, I can lure it down with acorns. Is there a net or something that I can catch it with?
Does anyone know how to trick the giant? And how to use the flute?
Quote from: MonoK on Tue 17/07/2007 17:39:32
Does anyone know how to trick the giant? And how to use the flute?
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To trick the giant, you need apples, a bag with sand from the beach, and the healed pigeon. When you talk to the giant say he's not strong and then you'll have a strength contest. Use the items I mentioned before in that order.
Assuming you have the flute already click it on the bard at your mercenary camp and he'll show you how to use it.
For anyone who gets chased the the Bhargest, and has tricked the giant, here's a way to get rid of him temporarily.
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Go to the giant, he'll stomp on the creature.
Alliance,
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Where did you get the acorns?
You can get money from gambling with the goblins with the horseshoe in your inventory, or from getting something from the island (which you need the self-bored stone to find) or from stealing from the tailor's tip jar.
At the right time the raven will drop the key in its mouth when you talk to it.
Jenimad,
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Where did you get the Changeling's comb?
I need help with these things:
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1. beating the goblins(I have the black onyx but don't know how to use it on them).
2. getting the crystal from the giant, he wants to trade it for something valuable.
The Comb, a hint-
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There's a hole in the ground in front of the giant's campsite. Now the question is how to get the comb OUT of it...
And blatant spoiler-
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Fill your bottle with water, use it on the hole, and the comb will float so you can grab it.
Fay,
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The acorns are in the tree by the monastery. You just merely shake the tree, and you can get them. But, I need some way to trap the squirrel. If I can get it, I can give it to the druid and get the bore-stone. What do I do?
Thanks Mon.
Stuck on chapter 5
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answered faerie riddle and don't really know what she told me about the well. That you can wish there? I knew that. Don't see a flute anywhere. Can' get into the door by the ring of stones and toadstools. And how do I beat the stone crushing guy. Can't wait for a walkthrough.
Quote from: Alliance on Tue 17/07/2007 18:52:29
Fay,
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The acorns are in the tree by the monastery. You just merely shake the tree, and you can get them. But, I need some way to trap the squirrel. If I can get it, I can give it to the druid and get the bore-stone. What do I do?
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Use the cloak from the tailor's on the squirrel.
Am I the only person in the world that can't escape the knife guy? Can't go down the servants stairs.
Sholson:
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Maybe you can fight him? Are there any weapons in the King's quarters?
I'm stuck also, i need to meet the faeries, i have the flute and the song.
Where's a flute and how does one deal with the giant?
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You can get the flute from the jeweler. There's a post dealing on the giant.
Alas, I'm stuck myself.
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What treasure can I trade with the giant, and where can I get it?
Stuck in Chapter 4
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I've been to the stable numerous times but have not seen a horseshoe. I gave the brain to the scarecrow and have the pumpkin, the hair, the nail, the lantern, a sharpened sword (no coin anymore!), apples, holy water, the love note, the belt advertisement, the dagger, the bone, the bag, and the shovel.
I gave the conch to the faerie after giving her cider on day 3. I got the coin out of the forest, but spent it sharpening the sword.
I solved her riddle but have no gold to throw in the well.
I found the grass for the sorcerer's apprentice.
I've solved the giant's challenges and had him stomp the barghest.
I know where to buy matches (presumably to light the lantern) but again have no gold.
I know where to get the flute but can't afford it.
I'm not altogether sure what to do now.
Alliance
All I saw about the giant was
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something to do with the pigeon, but that hasn't helped me.
I'll look again.
Danyul
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Use the seeing stone by the stone/toadstool circle. Then play the song on the flute
pslim-
The horseshoe-
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Look at the open stable on the right side of the room- I think I managed to find it just using the Look icon. It was visible to click on as I recall.
Money method(?)-
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Are the goblin scouts still sitting around? Give them some cider (if you can refill), then gamble with them when you have the horseshoe. That's the only method I could think of.
Item question?
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Where did you get a bone and hair?
Pslim, chapter 5
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have you gone to the pier area and given the grass to the woman. I did that then swam back and chapter 5 happened.
How'd you beat the giant?
Grady,
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Tell the giant he doesn't look so strong. You need apples, a bad of sand, and the pigeon. Use them on yourself in that order.
Still stuck with:
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finding a suitable treasure to trade with him...I have a shovel, but there's certainly nowhere on the beach to dig...
Quote from: jenimad on Tue 17/07/2007 21:35:07
The horseshoe-
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Look at the open stable on the right side of the room- I think I managed to find it just using the Look icon. It was visible to click on as I recall.
I found it! It wasn't visible at all on my screen, but when I walked inside the stall and used the look cursor and there it was!
Now that I have some money I think I can figure the others on my own. Thanks Jenimad!
Quote from: jenimadItem question?
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Where did you get a bone and hair?
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The bone is under the skull on the screen 1 south of the goblin encampment. The hair is on the door frame in day 2 when you find the king dead.
Quote from: GradyTnPslim, chapter 5
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have you gone to the pier area and given the grass to the woman. I did that then swam back and chapter 5 happened.
Yeah, I did that but the day didn't change for me.
QuoteHow'd you beat the giant?
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Use the apples, the bag full of sand, and the healed pigeon to prove that you're as strong as he is.
pslim:
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you'll know who needs a comb when you get into the fairies' place tierna na nog or whatever it's called
Just a note, again.
You're not SOL; there aren't any dead ends, to my best knowledge.
And it's called Thierna na Oge :)
Alliance--giant/trade
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I think after answering the faerie's riddle by the pond--next to the screen with the toadstool circle--when I went back there a rainbow appeared. Your shovel will work there for treasure.
Two places I'm sorta dead-ended at-
Belt-
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I know where it is and I've got a flier for it- and I've also been advised to be sneaky to get it back, but I have no clue what to do.
Goblins-
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I'm looking to get into the village overrun with goblins without dieing. I have a method to disguise myself as a goblin: using the Comb on the Pond. Thing is when I try to go down to the village, I have to pass by the Mercenary Camp, and I get killed...
So, any ideas?
This is weird.
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I got the key to the orb from the raven once, but I loaded a game and I can't manage to do it again. I've tried leaving and entering room, talking to the raven repeatedly, waiting for it to sparkle or move somehow and then clicking. I currently suspect that the last one is what it is, but so far no matter how long I watch it, the raven doesn't seem to move a feather. I'm confused.
Lyaer -> about you weird thing
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I've managed to get the key with playing the flute. You can't play the whole song because the raven is surprised. And then he drops the key.
Well, I've done the two faeries' tasks,
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That is, beating the giant at the strength contest and defeating the goblins, and I've found the treasure at the bottom of the rainbow and attempted to use it to buy back the belt, but the jeweler says she has another buyer now. Also, if I go back to the faerie realm, I am automatically taken to the faerie queen and she tells me that I will have my rest in the faerie realm. Then the screen slowly fades to white, but I have control back, like I'm supposed to do something to stop it, but I don't know what. If it fades all the way to white, the game ends, and I get what I assume to be the worst ending. What am I missing? How do I clear Maeldun's name?
Also, I've encountered many small bugs throughout the game, the most annoying of which is where the bard keeps telling me that I need to
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go back to the village in the woods and get something important (which I assume is the warrior's skull) that the goblins may have left there. Unfortunately, I've already finished that task; I've long since taken the skull relic from the village, and defeated the chief back at their camp.
Without the bard to give me those subtle clues, I am utterly lost.
I got the same ending, I think maybe we need to
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keep the charm instead of using it to save the princess, so it protects from getting stuck in that whiteness.. thing
Jenimad -
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When you hear footsteps coming, get out of sight. Getting past the mercenary camp should be a piece of cake after that.
Quote from: Ledz on Tue 17/07/2007 23:18:14
I got the same ending, I think maybe we need to
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keep the charm instead of using it to save the princess, so it protects from getting stuck in that whiteness.. thing
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But if there are no dead ends then there has to be some other way to get out of the whiteness, right? I used the charm to save the princess to gain her favor hopefully for a better ending. I tried playing the flute in the fae realm to break the spell but that doesn't work. I really wish I knew what to do. The bard tells me to go to the fae realm so I assume I've got to break the whiteness spell and not just avoid the place.
well a bad ending is not the same as a dead end...
I meant a dead end as in we have no choice but to get the bad ending because we used an object at the "wrong" time even though the game had led us to believe it was the right thing to do.
This is not a dead end. To go through this whiteness, you have to
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use the dagger on yourself It will remind you the tasks you still have to accomplish.
Thanks a lot MonoK.
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Now I really regret missing the hair from the beginning. :P
Stuck
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I have the goblin mask but can't get past the guard to enter the camp.
Quote from: GradyTn on Wed 18/07/2007 00:35:32
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I have the goblin mask but can't get past the guard to enter the camp.
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Use the ice orb on the river at the waterfall screen. You can access to the camp that way.
How do I get the vial off the shelf in the woods???
Ok, now I'm really stumped.
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I got the diamond. But when I went into town, the jewler's was locked. I need my girdle! She's standing on the upper level of the castle, but my only way in is by talking to the guard. Unfortunately, I don't have anything useful to say, and I always end up dead.
What should I do?
Okay, I did figure out my last question but now I'm having a problem.
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I'm a rabbit and can't seem to get somewhere that helps.
Don't know what to do next.
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I'm in the castle at the end and i can get upstairs to the second floor but there's two guards infront of the King's chamber doors, i can go to the main staircase and cut the statue and it falls but i get caught and killed
Grady:
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Who is good and can talk with animals?
Alliance, I got past that part without ever retrieving my girdle, so I don't know if you can.
But I'm stuck later where Danyul is:
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In the castle with Branwen. I got past the wizard girl but I'm stuck on the second floor and don't know what to do. I've tried using the fairy chime but it won't let me. I toppled the queen's statue but that got me killed. I pulled the cord to ring a bell but that got me killed. I've tried searching the kitchen and bookshelf room but I haven't found anything to pick up.
I figured it out finally.
Danyul,
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Use your flute somewhere.
Danyul and et al
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The rabbit won't cross the bridge.
Thanks!
But i'm stuck in the room now;
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I use the chime but he casts a spell on it, tried fighting him with everyone but he curses them and finally kills me
Grady:
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Maybe you need to be persuaded to cross the bridge? Have you checked the field by the scarecrow?
Danyul
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1. If you haven't already done so, give the dagger to Branwen
2. Use the chime
3. Order Geraint to attack
4. Order Branwen to throw the dagger at the chime
Thanks! ;D
Just need to replay and try to get 100% in both stats now. ::)
Okay - so I've finished ATOTK, but I still have some unanswered questions:
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1.Who assassinated the King, and what evidence do I need to show to the Seelie to prove my innocence? Where and how can I find the pieces of evidence?
2.How do I retrieve the girdle from the jeweler?
3.How do I rescue Rhiannon? In the epilogue, it says that she was slaughtered by a beast in her bedroom.
4. What is the purpose of the fingerbone, pumpkin, sleeping mouse and crystal (other than selling, maybe)?
Quote from: AW on Wed 18/07/2007 02:41:05
Okay - so I've finished ATOTK, but I still have some unanswered questions:
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4. What is the purpose of the fingerbone, pumpkin, sleeping mouse and crystal (other than selling, maybe)?
I at least know what the pumpkin, mouse and crystal are for.
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Give the love poem from the stable to the fairy queen, then she'll want a pumpkin, rodent and crystal. Give those to her and you'll get a magic pumpkin. Give that to the stable boy to enable him to marry the princess. Unfortunately the princess still died in my game so he didn't end up marrying her.
I suspect the tailor (since the princess mentions him at dinner) or the sparkling eyed guy who lives in the shipwreck as the killer. I started the game over and when you first enter the main hall with the staircase you see the shipwreck guy upstairs but I wasn't fast enough to click on him. I always thought he was a faerie like the fox girl since her eyes sparkle too but I was never able to prove this in game.
Louse the vial
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there's a shovel in the shed too, use that,
Where are the pigeon ?
Can i get back to the city in day 3 ?
I did have give the coin at that boy on the bridge ?
How do i beat the goblin in the camp when i out the cave ?
Peter
Pigeon
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Day four it shows up I believe.
city day three
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put potion from vial on weed on wall near scarecrow
coin
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You don't have to give to boy
Goblin cave
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You mean cage? I don't think you do. You want to take the talisman from off the front of the tent.
Well, thanks for all the help.
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I am stuck in the fairy's lair. Can't work out the combination of two to get through the puzzle. Can anyone help?
Em:
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Mole and Bat i think, also note the colours of the rooms...
Hi Em and Danyul
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Unfortunately, the fairy maze's solution is different every time you play the game, so trial and error is probably the only option.
Oh yes - and the colour of each room with a pedestal gives a good clue as to the matching gem.
Thanks for the help everybody!
AW (and Em and Danyul) -
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Trial and error isn't the only option. You could map it out, and work it out from there
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There is a much easier way, though you get less points ;)
Stuck in chapter 5:
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Just finished talking with the fairies and I walked around and did random stuff (saved princess in the woods). I gave the scarecrow the brain, I defeated the giant, I have the obsidian form the dark lord, I have a blue orb from the monastery, I don't have my girdle (have no clue how to get it back), I helped out the apprentice with grass, I stole a snake statue thing from the black tower, and I can't figure out how to get past the goblins in the forest village. Please help.
JBurger
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to the left of the entrance of the giant's home there's a hole. Fill it with water and get a comb. The boy at the Faerie area--the one with the king and queen--will tell you how to use it. A mirror is a reflecting device so you don't need a real mirror to use it.
Thank you very much.
Mouse question-
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I've seen the sleeping mouse and I've been able to pick it up- but if I do so in goblin disguise, I am killed by the villagers. If I exit the village to take off my disguise and come back, the door is locked. How do I get the mouse without dieing?
jenimad:
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there is a mirror on the wall inside the house, you can use it to change back.
I'm stumped.
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How do I reach the rope ladder in the secret passage? I don't seem to have anything long enough,to reach it, and I can't find any way to get my girlfriend to give me a boost up or anything. There was a spell for untying knots in one of the books in the wizard's house, but I don't have any way to cast it, so I assume that's out of the question.
Lyaer:
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get your girlfriend to hit it with her sword.
I'm stuck in... chapter six, I think-
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How do I get past the whole bunny rabbit thing without being eaten?
The tailor
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What could I trade for his release, late in the game?
Also, plot-heavy question-
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How in the world do I know who framed me and why? The only possible leads I have are a scrap of paper and a bit of black cloth, which hardly tell me anything. I think I've read about people finding hair, so I assume that's one thing I need... But it was kinda irritating just having to guess when the fairy queen asked.
jenimad:
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you need to get to the druid and ask him for help, the part where you have to cross the bridge is a little buggy, but it's possible.
I traded the goblin shield which I stole from the blacksmith in exchange for the tailor's release.
I have no idea where there is a hair anywhere in the game, but I guess it's all about seeing the cutscenes, and maybe it has to do with the snake thing you get from the black tower, your fairfolk friend says something about it being used to identify people associated with the owner or something like that...
in chapter 5
How do I
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Heal the pigeon when the village is full of gobliiiins and the druid is gone? (havgan)
The answer eludes me, where do I find it?
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once spoken, it becomes broken
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how do I get in the village where gobliiins is, havgan
Sorry to be a pain again, but...
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How do I steal the shield? The blacksmith won't even let me touch it.
player1:
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you should either load from an earlier point and take the pigeon to the druid before the goblins get there, or solve the goblin problem and take it to him after that.
it's a riddle that you are supposed to solve using your head and nothing else, I suggest you think a little more about it, it isn't very hard, but if you must know, the answer is:
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silence.
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to get into havgan while the goblins are there you need to use the changeling's comb on a mirror-like surface to become a goblin yourself.
jenimad:
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I think it's around day 5, while he is in the docks after talking to the sorcerer's apprentice, that he is not in his shop and you can take the shield.
Jenimad
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Once you have the shield, throw it down the cliff (outside the jeweler's shop) where you can later retrieve it on the beach.
Thank you very much, Ledz.
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I'll keep that in mind when I reset to get the hair.
thanks ledz
You are right, it is simple, I kept thinking
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secret
for some reason.
He doesn't want to
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use the comb on the pond or mirror, he keeps saying. he doesn't know what to do with it, I have tried showing it tailien he doesn't say anything
/hide]
Well I healed the pigeon without going into the village where the gobliiins have taken over
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I found the bearded druid in the shadows amongst the trees, I could talk with him, however he spoke in red letters (no dialoque box) and he was using talien (your friend in camp)'s dialoque, but I gave him the bird and he healed (with proper dialoque box and portrait), still not able to use the comb ...
Jenimad -
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Where did you find the black cloth?
Concerning endings (spoiler heavy):
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So far I have found three of the endings:
1- Stop the goblins and stay in fairyland.
2- Decline to aid Geraint and Paradur in taking down the sorcerer.
3- Defeat the wizard by summoning the seelie queen in the late king's bedroom, without proving the murderer, saving the princess, etc. This being the first "Good ending"
There are still two more endings. I don't believe these include minor variations on ending three, such as the fate of the tailor and whether you recovered your girdle. Saving the princess may not even be enough to reach ending four, as there were lines written in Ending 3 that seemed to imply she was still alive and in danger of a future assassination (unless I misread), which seems to imply there are variations of the same ending wherein she survives.
I think it's safe to assume that one of the five endings is the 'perfect' or 'just about perfect' ending, where most or all of the loose ends are tied up, with the murderer apprehended, etc, Though it is also possible that ending three is the only good ending, and the perfect ending is just another variation of it. That (probably) leaves one last ending, but does it fall between ending 3 and the perfect ending? Or does is it something completely different?
Has anyone managed to get an ending other than the ones I have listed yet?
a side note: One of the official screen shots features what looks like some kind of confrontation inside the wizard's tower. Are these screen shots actual game footage? This would seem to imply an alternate final showdown, even.
Black Cloth-
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It's in the window of the room you stay in in... Chapter Two, I think?
In the castle, late in the game-
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How do I keep from getting killed by the monster in the princess' room?
Lyaer -
QuoteOne of the official screen shots features what looks like some kind of confrontation inside the wizard's tower. Are these screen shots actual game footage? This would seem to imply an alternate final showdown, even.
No, that is not actual game footage. That was an old screenshot as a preview of how the backgrounds and sprites look.
Quote from: jenimad on Wed 18/07/2007 10:58:06
In the castle, late in the game-
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How do I keep from getting killed by the monster in the princess' room?
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I used holy water on the monster. Earlier in the game I lead the beast to the giant. So that I saved the holy water. But I guess there is also another method to get rid of this monster.
And I'm also stuck:
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How do you wake the princess up?
Again, late in the game-
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Skipping the princess, how do I get to the King's Bedchambers?
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Is the gems in the fairyworld a permutation thing of the objects you take with you? Or is the room colours important? I can't get the right path, how many gems does one need?
Also, I use the comb on the pond and mirror but he says he want to do nothing with it. I suspect someone needs to tell me of this? I tried the library, monk, druid and bard.
player1
Maze/Gems (pretty blatant solution)-
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You need four gems, and you need to put them on the pedestals in the rooms that match the color of the gem.
Red Gem/Red Room, etc.
Comb-
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It belongs to someone in the fairy realm- this person will tell you how to use it, and will let you borrow it back.
Quote from: jenimad on Wed 18/07/2007 11:53:17
Maze/Gems (pretty blatant solution)-
thanks :) not so blatant,
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I only got three gems all the time, so it was a permutation thing. I eventually got four, thanks. But of a irritating trial and error puzzle, unless there was some clue somewhere.
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I haven't figured out how to play any game with the goblins... I have the horseshoe but they don't play any game or give any option of playing with them in the dialogue tree...
Ledz-
Small hint-
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Maybe you could bribe them with something? They were complaining about something...
Spoiler-
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Give them some apple cider, then they'll be willing to gamble.
Can we split up this topic in chapters so we can find things faster for that chapter.
This topic get to much page to find what you looking for
Wher can i found the horseshoe ?
Horseshoe-
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Physically walk your character into the open stall on the right side of the stable, then look with the eye-icon- I just redid that part not too long ago.
Quote from: jenimad on Wed 18/07/2007 15:52:34
Horseshoe-
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Physically walk your character into the open stall on the right side of the stable, then look with the eye-icon- I just redid that part not too long ago.
Thanks jenimad sorry that i did not see that :)
Don't worry about it- I had to get a hint to find out it even existed ;D
Chapter 5:
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How do you do save the princess in the woods? Someone mentioned a charm but I have any (except the horseshoe but it doesn't work).
I also wonder if there is a "right" answer for the Fairy Queen's question at the end of chapter 5.
Before chapter 6:
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Does anyone have suggestions to save the changeling from his sad fate? I tried to give him all the inventory and he refused everything (but the comb).
Final chapter:
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How do you find the culprit? I never had the opportunity to confront evidences to someone?
Monok:
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you can get the charm from the goblin camp, when you are captured there, before you escape. it hangs on the first tent.
Final Chapter Questions-
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I killed the monster in the Princess' bedroom, but I can't wake her up.
Barring that? I still can't get to the King's Chambers... Help? I just want to finish the game once, even if the ending isn't the best XD;
I also have no idea who the real killer is and why. I did a lot of things this time such as grab the hair and rescue the tailor, but I'm lost.
Quote from: jenimad on Wed 18/07/2007 16:37:04
Final Chapter Questions-
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I killed the monster in the Princess' bedroom, but I can't wake her up.
Barring that? I still can't get to the King's Chambers... Help? I just want to finish the game once, even if the ending isn't the best XD.
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You don't have to wake the princess up. If you gave the magic pumpkin to the stable guy, you'll see a new ending.
And to enter the king's room, try to open the gate to your friends.
Quote from: MonoK on Wed 18/07/2007 16:45:50
Quote from: jenimad on Wed 18/07/2007 16:37:04
Final Chapter Questions-
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I killed the monster in the Princess' bedroom, but I can't wake her up.
Barring that? I still can't get to the King's Chambers... Help? I just want to finish the game once, even if the ending isn't the best XD.
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You don't have to wake the princess up. If you gave the magic pumpkin to the stable guy, you'll see a new ending.
And to enter the king's room, try to open the gate to your friends.
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I don't know how to do that either.
Princess at end question:
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How do you get into the princess' room to kill the monster? All the doors on the second story were locked and I couldn't use the nail on them. I thought the only thing to do was to let Garaint and the rest in the front gate, but the princess died in that ending.
Quote from: jenimad on Wed 18/07/2007 16:59:56
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I don't know how to do that either.
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Go to the entrance hall where the main gate is from the stairway and play your flute.
Princess at end hint-
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Remember the upstairs hall from the beginning? Doesn't something look a little odd now...?
Princess at end spoiler-
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Use the stone you used to reveal the Fairy Circle on the blank wall in the upstairs hall to reveal the door.
Thanks Jenimad. I had just figured it out and now I got a happy ending with no "?" after "The End." I still don't know who the assassin is though.
Yeah, I got a happy ending too- but it hints at a lot of things I don't know.
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I'm pretty sure from the hinting that I should have done something for the Changeling and possibly something for the apprentice-
As well as something with my stolen belt/girdle thing.
AND I don't know who killed the king...
The ending should tide me over until some people come up with some leads ;D
OK, I'm stuck big time...
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* Princess Rhiannon is under a spell in the woods. The fox faery says I should be able to free her, but I don't see how.
* I can't afford the flute in the jeweller's shop (the miserly cow only gives me one ducat for the conch)
* I don't know where to light the lantern.
* I don't know how to get into the hole outside the ogre's lair.
* I don't see how to get a pumpkin.
* I can't get into the hole in the tree next to the ring of stones.
* I don't know how to help the pigeon with the broken wing.
* I'm not sure whether I can get the matches from the shop in the market.
* I've found the portal but can't get through it.
I have: sword; apples; acorns; parchment; love poem; conch; key; note from jeweller; unlit lantern; nail; self-bored stone; empty cider bottle; shovel; dagger; wounded pigeon; squirrel; bag of sand; horseshoe.
Any hints please? (
Hints, not solutions.) Thanks very much.
paolo:
you don't have the item you need.
hint:
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you need to put yourself in a bad position to have a chance to get it.
bigger hint:
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like walk right into the enemy's camp.
Curious.
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How do you get the love note from the stableboy? I spoke with him periodically, but he never mentioned it to me.
Also
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On my first playthrough, I encountered the thief on the bridge and he wanted food, but I didn't have any for him. On my second playthrough I made sure to have apples and that pumpkin with me all the time, but I never encountered him there. Does anyone know how to trigger that event again? And is there anything you can do for him if you do?
Love Note, hint-
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He seems a little bashful to me, so maybe he's hidden it somewhere...
Big blatant thing-
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Just stick your hand in the hay at the stables. I don't even think he has to be gone for this to work.
I'm stuck in Chapter 7, when i got turned into a rabbit
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I spoken with the druid and i'm pretty sure that the faerie circle is where the faerie gate is, but when i walked around it thrice counterclockwise, it didn't work
help!
arcaninex -
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Try walking on top of the mushrooms as much as possible. Might help.
Stuck in Chapter 8 or 7, I can't remember.
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I'm in the castle at night with my female companion and I've made it through the kitchen and up to the second floor hallway. I don't know what to do here. I've tried pulling the cord, and pushing over the statue on the stairs, but those just get me captured. Help.
Arcaninex:
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You're at the right spot. I went around the circle 3 times clockwise, while stepping on the mushrooms the whole time, and it worked for me on the first try.
Thanks for the help!
Now I know what I did wrong:
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I was walking around the toadstools, instead of on them :P
TheJBurger:
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Play your flute somewhere...
Quote from: Danyul on Wed 18/07/2007 21:22:59
TheJBurger:
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Play your flute somewhere...
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I gave away my flute to the Faire fox lady. It wasn't necessary, but it raised my honor so I was like, whatever, because I didn't know if I would need it. Does this mean I'M STUCK? :(
About the beginning of chapter 7:
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I can't get him to cross the bridge as the rabbit, no matter how hard I try.
Quote from: pslim on Wed 18/07/2007 21:25:08
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I can't get him to cross the bridge as the rabbit, no matter how hard I try.
I'm surprised that so many people try this considering that in several "plot paths", the beggar will be here to block your path.
Not being able to cross even if he
isn't there is a bug, which will be fixed shortly (apologies for the inconvenience).
BUT, there is another way across, which you were intended to take if the beggar is there. So your progress is not actually impeded.
Radiant, can you help me?
Quote from: TheJBurger on Wed 18/07/2007 21:09:55
Stuck in Chapter 8 or 7, I can't remember.
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I'm in the castle at night with my female companion and I've made it through the kitchen and up to the second floor hallway. I don't know what to do here. I've tried pulling the cord, and pushing over the statue on the stairs, but those just get me captured. Help.
And I don't have the flute.
stuck in chapter 8:
Monster-
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How do you kill it? I don't have holy water...
Sorcerer-
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i tried to use the chime but sorcerer glued it to the ceiling, how to get it back before he kills me?
I found another bug trying to cross the river in a different way. Can anybody just spoil me on this one? I'm getting frustrated.
About the bug:
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I went south along the seashore from the city, and then west to the bridge screen. THe message about the fox not wanting to get near the bridge popped up (although I hadn't triggered the fox to chase me yet) and wouldn't leave my screen regardless of clicking on it. I had to kill the program.
arcaninex:
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I defeated the monster using the snake symbol from the wizard's tower.
pslim:
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it's mostly luck, I think, if you try enough times you'll manage to pass the bridge before you get the message about the fox, and then get it after you've passed. I think it would be better to go around though, and use the lily pads to cross the river, until the bug is fixed.
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I sold the snake thing for money...great :(
I'm currently stuck on Day 4.
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I bought the matches, but they keep getting wet whenever I try going into the water. How do I keep them dry? Or did I mess up, and do something I wasn't supposed to?
Balin
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Once you have the matches, go into the jewelry shop and do something to irritate the owner (e.g. repeatedly touching the glass case or going behind the counter). Eventually the owner will order a guard (who must be in the store at the time) to throw you out, and once that happens, you'll find yourself outside the city gates - with the matches.
Aw, I should have known! Guess that's what I get for not touching/picking up/etc. everything. Thanks!
Can someone make a WT , the game are to confuse for me :(
I did see the fairy but did not know the answser
I know now the answer but they come not back ?
How do i use the flute - which note ?
They stole my flute (i did not use the flute) - do i get it back ?
im stuck at the beginning. i escaped from my room and got downstairs but how do i get out of the castle?
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I got the severed head from the village, and I convinced the giant to give me the crystal, but the jeweler's sitting up on the castle roof. How do I get her down?
Balin -
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You don't. She's busy visiting
peter -
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If Pooka let you go, then you don't need to answer the riddle anymore - you just don't get the wisdom points. Taliesen explains how to use the flute if you show it to him, and yes, you need to get your flute back
baffled -
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You can use an object you already have, or there may be an item that you can pick up which may be of use
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But without the girdle, I can't defeat the goblin chief, right? How do I get it back?
^Full spoilers okay.
Balin
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Things aren't always what they seem in this game. Don't be afraid to 'play dirty' to beat the goblin chief. There's a book in the monk's library that will teach you how.
Out of curiosity, where exactly
is this wizard's tower?
Ah, and here I was figuring that it was just decoration! Thanks!
Goblin Question
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How do I defeat the Goblin Warlord? I visited the library and know what I have to do, but I'm not sure how to do it. Specifically, how do I acquire a poisoned blade? Oh, I'm in Chapter 5.
Leonard:
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There are two ways that I know of defeating the goblin chief so far. you can use the black gem thing you get from the dark fairy for defeating the giant, or a bag full of sand. Poisoned blade? I haven't seen or heard of this yet.
In chapter 5
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how do I get the skull in havgan between the gobliiins? Right now I don't know what to do there except prepare their stew, I threw in apples, anything else? How do I get that massive rat?
Bug report
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using dagger on rat it says something like "There is no need to stab the ." It doesn't say what.
Quote from: Ledz on Wed 18/07/2007 18:51:15
paolo:
you don't have the item you need.
hint:
Spoiler
you need to put yourself in a bad position to have a chance to get it.
bigger hint:
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like walk right into the enemy's camp.
Thanks for that. I take it you mean
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getting the charm from the goblins' camp. Unfortunately I was already captured once before, and walking into the goblins' camp a second time means that I die.
I know there aren't supposed to be any, but is this a dead end?
Quote from: player1 on Thu 19/07/2007 13:26:55
In chapter 5
Bug report
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using dagger on rat it says something like "There is no need to stab the ." It doesn't say what.
player 1, this is the wrong forum for reporting bugs. Post it in the thread for the game in the Completed Game Announcements forum.
Paolo,
Quote from: paolo on Thu 19/07/2007 13:32:18
I know there aren't supposed to be any, but is this a dead end?
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You don't actually need the rune from the goblin's camp in order to complete the game. Only if you want the maximum number of points
Quote from: ProgZmax on Thu 19/07/2007 06:44:39
Out of curiosity, where exactly is this wizard's tower?
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It is hidden with some magical mist. You need something special to see through the illusion. Also, you need to get wet to get there.
peter -
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If Pooka let you go, then you don't need to answer the riddle anymore - you just don't get the wisdom points. Taliesen explains how to use the flute if you show it to him, and yes, you need to get your flute back
And how do i get this back ?
I'm stuck in chapter four.
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I have given the magic girl the grass, and I have no idea how to buy the flute, I have one gold piece as I bought the cape.
How do I escape from the kitchen after escaping from my imprisonment in the bedroom?
sdf-
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assuming you've pick up the bucket in the kitchen, go down and get rid of the light
Where do you use
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the love note, bone and matches.
Can I
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get the magic belt back, go upstairs in the wizard tower or enter the hole in faerie land that the dark faerie says is not possible for a mortal.
Is there
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anything to do in the wizard tower besides read the books and take the snake thing.
How do I
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release the man from the goblins after I defeat the chief?
thanks
Guest:
the only things I can answer are:
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you need to show the love note to the fairy queen.
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you can release the man by trading for his freedom with the goblin shield that you need to steal from the blacksmith while he isn't in his shop and drop over the cliff so you can leave the dock without it.
regarding your other questions, I would like to know the answer to those as well.
I have the
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charm from the goblin village, but apparently I didn't need it after all...
thanks for the reassurance, Meerbat.
So apparently I still don't have what I need to do any of the following... can anyone give any further subtle hints, please? Thanks.
Quote from: paolo on Wed 18/07/2007 18:14:08
OK, I'm stuck big time...
Spoiler
* Princess Rhiannon is under a spell in the woods. The fox faery says I should be able to free her, but I don't see how.
* I can't afford the flute in the jeweller's shop (the miserly cow only gives me one ducat for the conch)
* I don't know where to light the lantern.
* I don't know how to get into the hole outside the ogre's lair.
* I don't see how to get a pumpkin.
* I can't get into the hole in the tree next to the ring of stones.
* I don't know how to help the pigeon with the broken wing.
* I'm not sure whether I can get the matches from the shop in the market.
* I've found the portal but can't get through it.
I have: sword; apples; acorns; parchment; love poem; conch; key; note from jeweller; unlit lantern; nail; self-bored stone; empty cider bottle; shovel; dagger; wounded pigeon; squirrel; bag of sand; horseshoe.
Any hints please? (Hints, not solutions.) Thanks very much.
PS:
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I've got the matches but I need to use them somehow before I leave the city...
I found the assassin, gave the proper item to the Princess to convince her, and then the game crashed with the following error:
Error: run_text_script1: error -6 running function 'on_call':
Error: Script appears to be hung (150001 while loop iterations without an update) in Room 81 script (line 41)
Was anyone able to correctly identify the assassin, provide the correct evidence, and avoid this crash?
Quote from: paolo on Wed 18/07/2007 18:14:08
OK, I'm stuck big time...
Any hints please? (Hints, not solutions.) Thanks very much.
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Q:Princess Rhiannon is under a spell in the woods. The fox faery says I should be able to free her, but I don't see how.
A: As far as I could tell, she's freed on her own, in time.
Q: I can't afford the flute in the jeweller's shop (the miserly cow only gives me one ducat for the conch)
A: There are many ways to gain coins in this game. The goblins are one very easy source, and you thereby get the chance to keep the conch shell and the other valuable items you gain over the course of the game, to use in other ways that might gain honor and wisdom. If you're intent on playing through, however, the tailor's shop might have your answer re: quick money.
Q: I don't know how to get into the hole outside the ogre's lair.
A: Whatever's inside that hole isn't very dense.
Q: I don't see how to get a pumpkin.
A: You need to convince the scarecrow. He won't help you the way he is now. If you give him something, that's a different story...and the proper gift involves getting very wet.
Q: I don't know how to help the pigeon with the broken wing.
A: Who is good with animals?
Q: I'm not sure whether I can get the matches from the shop in the market.
A: You can, but it's a tricky maneuver. Are there alternative ways out of the city? Perhaps one involving your character annoying someone else?
Q: I've found the portal but can't get through it.
A: Show the bard your bored stone and see what he says.
Quote from: paolo on Thu 19/07/2007 18:14:15
I have the Spoiler
charm from the goblin village, but apparently I didn't need it after all...
thanks for the reassurance, Meerbat.
So apparently I still don't have what I need to do any of the following... can anyone give any further subtle hints, please? Thanks.
Quote from: paolo on Wed 18/07/2007 18:14:08
OK, I'm stuck big time...
Spoiler
* Princess Rhiannon is under a spell in the woods. The fox faery says I should be able to free her, but I don't see how.
* I can't afford the flute in the jeweller's shop (the miserly cow only gives me one ducat for the conch)
* I don't know where to light the lantern.
* I don't know how to get into the hole outside the ogre's lair.
* I don't see how to get a pumpkin.
* I can't get into the hole in the tree next to the ring of stones.
* I don't know how to help the pigeon with the broken wing.
* I'm not sure whether I can get the matches from the shop in the market.
* I've found the portal but can't get through it.
I have: sword; apples; acorns; parchment; love poem; conch; key; note from jeweller; unlit lantern; nail; self-bored stone; empty cider bottle; shovel; dagger; wounded pigeon; squirrel; bag of sand; horseshoe.
Any hints please? (Hints, not solutions.) Thanks very much.
PS: Spoiler
I've got the matches but I need to use them somehow before I leave the city...
Here are some hints :D
flute
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I sold something, something I after defeating the giant, or you could play dice with the gobliiins
hole
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maybe you can get the thing in the hole to come to you instead of trying to reach it
pigeon
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you must heal the pigeon, someone who knows animals (and he is still around in chapter 5, just a little hidden, I gothim in chapter 5 cause I was late on this quest)
matches - hint 1
Spoiler
you can get the matches, you'll have to get out of the city but not via water,
matches - hint 2 more specific
Spoiler
maybe you can get thrown out
matches - hint 3 more more specific
Spoiler
maybe the jeweller doesn't like you touching her things
portal
Spoiler
you'll need the flute to get through
Now some of my problems:
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I am in chapter 5, uncertain how to deal with the gobliiins in havgan, I am there disguised as one of them. How do I get the massive rat, the skull, and how do I make them leave? Also where do I get a brain and how do I get the pumpkin?
Player1:
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hint: you need to put the goblins under a "snow-white effect".
Spoiler
regarding the brain, you just need to go east from the mercernary camp exit until you get to an island.
Matches Question:
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Is there any use for getting them out of the city before the endgame? Or do you just use them at the end on your lantern for more points than if the bard had given you matches?
Assassin Question:
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I've now read of three clues in this topic for figuring out who the assassin is. A piece of black cloth, a hair, and the note from the pigeon. Are there any more? And do you only show them to the fairy queen or do they have another use?
Still stuck in chapter 8:
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I killed the beast by the princess and I've tried to wake her up but I can't. I don't know how to open the gate without getting spot, and people are saying use my flute, but I don't have it with me anymore. Where do I go from here?
I need the solution of a faerie riddle. What grows if you give him food, but dies if you give him water?
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I went and showed the Truth to the princess, but the sorcerer turned me into a rabbit! I managed to evade the fox and get to the other side of the river, and I've talked to the druid, but I can't use the faerie ring. I've walked around it 3 times, both clockwise and counterclockwise, but nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong?
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I need the solution of a faerie riddle. What grows if you give him food, but dies if you give him water?
maybe fire?, didn't have that riddle.
Thanks ledz!
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I am still a little stuck, I have no clue what to do to get past chapter 5. And I still cannot get the gobliiins out, I assume I have to put a poisoned apple in the stew, but where the poison? Maybe the poisoned blade? Where can I get that, maybe near geraint? I have no clue what to do.
How can i get pass of the guard in chapter two, after i have escape from the kitchen. I'm now in the wall and if i go down the guard catch me. The game says i have to deal with but i have only money and i can`t do nothing with it.
Excuse me my english
olgui
if it's the guard I think it is
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you have to knock him out, throw something on him, if that doesn't work talk to him first to get him out from under cover
player1:
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no, you actually have to use on the goblins what was used on snow-white, that is a poisoned apple. I don't know how to hint about this, so in order to find what you need you need to have the thief knock you out and steal stuff from you.
Found another way to make money
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sell the vase that was hiding the scepter to the jeweler on day one when your in the room with the board game. You can escape the castle later through a window in the big room with the throne.
When is the black smith
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not in his shop?
Thanks
the blacksmith is
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not in his shop when he goes to talk to the sorcerer's apprentice who sits at the dock, around day 5 or 6 I believe.
thanks ledz.
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How do I get near the gobliiin village with skullcrasher, I keep getting killed on my way there. How do I steal the orb in the library? I have not seen any ravens on that acorn tree too throughout the game.
Player1:
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essentially you're asking the same question. The raven's place changes randomly, if you can't find him at all try looking at the entrance to the giant's place, it took me a while to find the raven there too, he is hard to spot.
and you're welcome!
About the horseshoe. Well, I can't find it. It should be on the right side of the stable. But where???Please, help!!!
diddly, the horseshoe:
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you can't actually see the horseshoe on your screen (at least i couldn't), but your character can. Just walk into the open stable box (or whatever it is called) and let your character look [\hide]
and thanks again ledz :)
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I have trouble getting the rope ladder down in chapter 9, for some reason I feel I am missing the obvious.
Thank you anyel. I was starting to steam...Now I have another big problem: I can't figure out how to use the brain in the jar. Every time I use it on something, the message "Yuck! no thanks!" keeps on showing. My goodness!!
Quote from: diddly on Thu 19/07/2007 23:14:11
Thank you anyel. I was starting to steam...Now I have another big problem: I can't figure out how to use the brain in the jar. Every time I use it on something, the message "Yuck! no thanks!" keeps on showing. My goodness!!
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you can give it to the scarecrow.
Quote from: player1 on Thu 19/07/2007 23:07:58
and thanks again ledz :)
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I have trouble getting the rope ladder down in chapter 9, for some reason I feel I am missing the obvious.
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I saw this question asked earlier too, and the answer was to have your girl hit it with her sword. But in my case she just says it doesn't sound like a good idea. ??
Still stuck
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as a rabbit at the faerie ring. Nothing happens, even though I'm walking around it 3 times.
player1
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she won't use her sword,
but she will use your dagger
Quote from: Balin on Thu 19/07/2007 23:35:25
Still stuck Spoiler
as a rabbit at the faerie ring. Nothing happens, even though I'm walking around it 3 times.
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walk exactly on the red mushrooms 3 times in circle anti-clockwise. If it doesn't work, first go talk with the druid in havgan.
Thanks anyel :)
Two questions.. I'm still in Chapter 3 and I can't get the green vial off the cabin shelf, and while I can get out of the cage in the goblin encampment and get the symbol I can't escape after that.
Help please..
Vial -
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There are a lot of long handled tools lying around the shed. Maybe you can use one of them?
Goblin camp-
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Maeldun can't escape anywhere without getting his feet wet.
I know this is way behind where most people are in terms of progress, but I can't get onto the boat in the pier...I'm already disguised and at the harbor. What am I supposed to do now?
I know I'm probably missing the obvious, but how do I escape my room at the beginning of chapter 2
Giant Troubles
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What do I have to trade with the Giant to get the crystal? Where can I acquire said item? I'm in Chapter 6.
Quote from: Anon on Thu 19/07/2007 23:55:12
I know this is way behind where most people are in terms of progress, but I can't get onto the boat in the pier...I'm already disguised and at the harbor. What am I supposed to do now?
Hey Anon
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It's easier than you think. Maybe you should take a dip and think about it.
Thank you =D. Actually, now I feel kinda stupid after walking around in frustration for ten minutes trying to find a way out ::)
Also, I didn't expect the responses to be so fast =).
thanks player 1, but i still stuck,
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i don`t know what can i throw on him, i think that it would be some stone but i can`t get one or push one.
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olgui
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You can throw the vase on him.
leonard
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it's a buried treasure, on a room where a rainbow ends (rainbow appears only once
I am at end but
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how do I defeat the sorcerer, he keeps wasting me and co, I've tried with chime, throwing dagger at chime and him, and charging him with sword.
player 1, thanks, but
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what vase! The one I changed for money in chapter one? Then I have to begin the game.
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[/quote]
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You're not actually supposed to be able to sell the vase while within the castle; if you think about it, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, now does it?
If you did anyway, try escaping via the window instead of via the guard room. Or restart if you must, it's only one minute from the beginning of the game anyway.
I think this is a technical error, but every time I try to take the key from the druid, the game freezes, and when I try to click on anything, it closes with an error popup window. Has anyone else gotten this problem? Thanks
Yes, that's a technical error. A fix will be online shortly. But there's an easy workaround.
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You are in fact telling the druid to give the key to himself. To get him to give the key to you, click the ARROW on the key, then close the inventory, then click the key on Maeldun.
Ah, thank you! I thought I wouldn't be able to finish the game because of it ;D Are there any other errors I should know about?
never mind my questions. finished it, great game :)
Can you tell me how to do the test from the fairy queen.
I can take 2 object but which 2 and what to do then.
When i take a feather and dragon scale i can through the fire and clouds
how can i open then the other - stone , water, wood and sky (i think)
I think i must open all and place the colored gems on the same colored cave ?
Thanks
Quote from: peter on Fri 20/07/2007 01:49:07
Can you tell me how to do the test from the fairy queen.
I can take 2 object but which 2 and what to do then.
When i take a feather and dragon scale i can through the fire and clouds
how can i open then the other - stone , water, wood and sky (i think)
I think i must open all and place the colored gems on the same colored cave ?
Thanks
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yes, you need 4 gems, only certain two objects will get you all four rooms/gems. It's always different, so it's trial and error.
Can somebody please tell me how to escape my room at the beginning of part 2
Stable Boy Question
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Okay, I've got the pumpkin, the crystal, and the sleeping mouse. Now what do I do? Every time I visit the Fairy Queen everything goes white and I get a crappy ending. I'm in Chapter 6.
Quote from: nobody on Fri 20/07/2007 02:41:23
Can somebody please tell me how to escape my room at the beginning of part 2
I think you'll find an answer if you search this thread (a pain, I know),
but I'll give you a hint.
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Is there anything in the room that you could use to make it look like you're in bed when you're not?
Also, check the closet. Maybe you can make a noise and hide while the guard investigates.
Quote from: Leonard LePage on Fri 20/07/2007 03:02:13
Stable Boy Question
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Okay, I've got the pumpkin, the crystal, and the sleeping mouse. Now what do I do? Every time I visit the Fairy Queen everything goes white and I get a crappy ending. I'm in Chapter 6.
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Well, that's two questions I guess. You actually need to give the fairy queen those 3 items *before* you defeat the goblin chief. After you do that, you will get that scene with the white light and will never be able to go back there, even if you avoid the crappy end.
To avoid being trapped in the fairy land, there are a couple of solutions. The obvious one is to use the cold iron charm from the goblin camp, but if you used that already, just use the dagger on yourself.
How do I hide?
How do you hide?
Hint:
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Think about a place where the guard won't notice you when he walks through the door.
Solution:
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Hide behind the door.
Thank you KuroShiro! You were a huge help!
Quote from: KuroShiro on Fri 20/07/2007 03:10:49
Quote from: Leonard LePage on Fri 20/07/2007 03:02:13
Stable Boy Question
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Okay, I've got the pumpkin, the crystal, and the sleeping mouse. Now what do I do? Every time I visit the Fairy Queen everything goes white and I get a crappy ending. I'm in Chapter 6.
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Well, that's two questions I guess. You actually need to give the fairy queen those 3 items *before* you defeat the goblin chief. After you do that, you will get that scene with the white light and will never be able to go back there, even if you avoid the crappy end.
To avoid being trapped in the fairy land, there are a couple of solutions. The obvious one is to use the cold iron charm from the goblin camp, but if you used that already, just use the dagger on yourself.
Mirror:
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Where is the mirror in the druid's house? I saw reference to it being on the wall, but I can't find it.
Thanks in advance.
Don't worry. I found it. Must have been clicking the wrong spot!
In chapter 4, when I try to walk to the jeweler's, a storm comes and throws me over the edge of the cliff. Is there any way to avoid this?
Quote from: guest on Fri 20/07/2007 04:08:29
In chapter 4, when I try to walk to the jeweler's, a storm comes and throws me over the edge of the cliff. Is there any way to avoid this?
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Just grab the fence before you fall off. You have plenty of time.
I tried and tried, but I can't find the hair.... Need a hint...
???
guest -
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Look on Vortigern's door
Can someone point me in the right direction?
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I can't seem to stop the goblins from killing me in their camp after defeating them in the town. I have been walking over the river using the orb, but each time they eventually kill me.
Em -
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You need to use something they left in the village, but you might want to show it to someone who knows what it is first.
Kestrel -
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Any hints on identifying the assassin?
Edit: Ack. Meant to edit my last post. Is there a way to delete them?
Hi...Guys .. :) :)this is extreamly difficalt Game...may be some body will be so kind and post WT???? ??? ??? ??? ???
I really cant figure out how to lpay,even wz hints...so desperate... ::) ::) ::)
Thanks, kestrel and player1, your hints are very helpful and have got me a little bit further. However:
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Presumably the wizard guy who lives in the woods can help with the injured pigeon, but where is he? He's not in his house (the goblins are hanging around outside and kill me if I go near) and he's not in the woods any more (he's already come out to warn me about the goblins.
How do I get to play dice with the goblins? They kill me if I talk to them, and I've already been captured once so I die if I go back to the camp.
Even if I knew how to get money from the tailor, I can't because he's shut up shop.
Thanks. It's bloomin' hard, this game... :(
Update: Aha, the power of posting... I've just read an earlier response that has just got me a whole load of money :)
Further update: Boo! My wealth was short-lived! :( How can I avoid
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being robbed?
paolo -
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You can't avoid being robbed. But you can get back your stuff...
Quote from: paolo on Fri 20/07/2007 12:41:42
Thanks, kestrel and player1, your hints are very helpful and have got me a little bit further. However:
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Presumably the wizard guy who lives in the woods can help with the injured pigeon, but where is he? He's not in his house (the goblins are hanging around outside and kill me if I go near) and he's not in the woods any more (he's already come out to warn me about the goblins.
How do I get to play dice with the goblins? They kill me if I talk to them, and I've already been captured once so I die if I go back to the camp.
Even if I knew how to get money from the tailor, I can't because he's shut up shop.
Thanks. It's bloomin' hard, this game... :(
Update: Aha, the power of posting... I've just read an earlier response that has just got me a whole load of money :)
Further update: Boo! My wealth was short-lived! :( How can I avoid Spoiler
being robbed?
Goblins:
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You will find the goblins to play the dice game with in the forest. Turn left at the bridge and they should be on the next screen.
Robbed:
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There is a way to get your flute back. Look for the theifs hideout.
Please help
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Where is the thief's hideout?
rolyn
vaque
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Near the beach
less vague
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look for footsteps
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the ship
Chapter 8. I'm in the castle at night, with Branwin, but I can't do anything. There are guards on the upper floor, but I don't know what to do. Please help!!!
When and where does the rainbow appear. Do I need to do something?
diddly
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use your flute on the stairs then use your shovel on a statue
Faery's test: a question:
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Am I right in thinking that the door between two caves is the same (fire, cloud, etc) in each direction? In other words, if going from cave A to cave B would take me through, say, fire, then going from cave B to cave A would also take me through fire?
I ask because I've graphed the structure of the caves out on paper, and it doesn't seem to be possible to visit all rooms using only two objects if the doors are the same in each direction.
Faery's test: SOLUTION METHOD that does not rely on trial and error (assuming what I say in the spoiler above is true):
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There are five rooms: purple (where you start), red, yellow, green and blue. Draw a large pentagon and join every corner to every other (so that you have a pentagram inside a pentagon). Now label each of the corners so each has a different one of these colours (the order doesn't matter). Take any two objects and pass through one of the doors in the purple room that you can get through. Note what object you used to get through the door and which room you end up in. Write the name of the object on the line joining the purple corner of your pentagon to the corner for the colour of the room you end up in. For example, if you use the feather and end up in the green room, then write "feather" on line joining the purple and green corners of the pentagon. Now go through the door you just came through to get back the purple room, and repeat for another door. (Be careful not to go through the middle door, which will take you back outside.)
Keep going until you have done as much as you can, then return to the purple room, speak to the faery and pick a different combination. Keep doing the above until you have written on each of the ten lines on your diagram.
Pick one of the objects. Lightly sketch out a new pentagram in a pentagon and copy on to it the exact arrangment of lines that are labelled with the object you have chosen. Repeat (on a new pentagon plus pentagram each time) with the other five objects. This gives you six new diagrams.
Now take these diagrams two at a time in all possible combinations (there are 15 ways to do this). If you find a pair of diagrams that enable you to trace a path starting in the purple room and visiting all of the other rooms, then the two objects in this pair are the two you need to choose to solve the puzzle.
This method works. The first time I tried it I made a mistake.
Em:
Thanks, but the goblins aren't there any more, so it looks like I missed that opportunity.
Quote from: paolo on Fri 20/07/2007 12:41:42
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Presumably the wizard guy who lives in the woods can help with the injured pigeon, but where is he? He's not in his house (the goblins are hanging around outside and kill me if I go near) and he's not in the woods any more (he's already come out to warn me about the goblins.
paolo, this was in my case too. I'm not sure if I should have but
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At the spot where the druid warns you, he is still there hidden in the trees, you can sorta see his robes right behind the tree on the left, you cannot talk with him, for some reason I got your bard's friend's dialoque in plain red letters (no dialogue boxes around). I just gave him the pigeon there, and he restored it. I don't know if that was a bug, but he was there, so I could heal the pigeon in chapter 5 even though the gobliiins was in the village.
Quote from: Lyaer on Fri 20/07/2007 08:48:59
Kestrel -
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Any hints on identifying the assassin?
Edit: Ack. Meant to edit my last post. Is there a way to delete them?
Hint:
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There are a few characters that has been lying you to from the beginning. Look at all the cutscenes, and you'll be able to eliminate most of them.
Slight spoiler:
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Someone gives, in the course of conversation, both MOTIVE for the killing and a FALSE ALIBI that is later proven a lie when you see him/her saying something else to someone else.
Where is the Princess's bedroom? :X
Princess' Bedroom Hint-
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Look at the second floor- doesn't anything look a little off to you?
Princess' Bedroom Blatant-
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Go to the second floor- there's a blank wall where your bedroom used to be. Use the water-bored stone on the blank wall
Cutscenes?
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Okay, so they're needed to figure out the big mystery... I only triggered about half of them on my bed run-through so far... Any hints about triggering some more?
Please help
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Where is the grass?
lynn1
grass - small hint
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ask the monk in monastary about it, and read about it in book in library and ask him about it.
Raven
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I need the key from the raven to get the orb. I defeated the goblins in the druid area and have the mask and a sharpened sword. How do I get the key. I wished for good health not animal trust. Btw, what cut-scenes?
A quick question about the comb:
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I'm in ch.5 right now, and I need the comb to get into Havgan. I'm told to fill a bottle with water, but where do I get this bottle?
Thanks =)
Nevermind, I've got it =)
For anyone with the same problem:
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Use the cidar bottle. If you don't have it, you can get it off the sleeping goblin in the orchid by Havgan. Empty it and refill it with water.
Hopefully I didnt just miss the answer to this question, I tried to read through this whole thread but... how do I get into the shed? I've seen people ask, but I think everyone else has managed to figure it out before the answer is posted. Thanks for the help
To get into the shed:
Hint:
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Maybe someone can let you in. Warning: the game might crash in the process if you do something wrong, so save =)
Spoiler:
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Talk to the druid. Ask him to do something for you, then click on his inventory. Using the arrow, click on the key, then close the inventory. Click the key on yourself, and he will let you borrow it. If you click on the hand in his inventory, then click on the key, the game will crash.
Ah, thank you! I didn't even know that was an option, so I probably would have been stuck forever, hehe.
Questions
The bone
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what is it for?
assassin
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what are the clues, how do you know?
Weird rabbit
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what can you do with it?
Is a 100% walkthrough forthcoming by anyone any time soon? I suspect you can play this game over and over and never complete it fully.
I'm stuck on day 5. I know I have to convince the warlord to go back, but I can't even get near the camp. Whenever I walk up to it, the guard kills me. I've already used up my first chance to escape without doing anything, so how can I get near Skullcrusher? Thanks
the camp:
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did you already defaet the giant?
The goblin camp:
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Yes, I've already beaten the giant. I've also returned the key to the monk, if that has anything to do with it, but I'm not sure what to do now.
On a different note, concerning the brain:
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I've read that it's located on an island east of the mercenary camp. But whenever I swim into the ocean, I die. Is it where I found the shell, because I don't see it there.
Brain:
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From memory, you need to swim east from the beach with the shipwreck
Sorceror?
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How do I stop him in the kings room? I use the chime, but it ends up on the ceiling. Any hints?
How to defeat the gobelins?
I'm stuck on day 5, I think.
I have no idea how to defeat them.
I already fought the giant, have the orb and tried to use it near the fall but it tells me that it is not the right time yet.
Help me please!
Quote from: Em on Sat 21/07/2007 01:18:30
Brain:
Sorceror?
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How do I stop him in the kings room? I use the chime, but it ends up on the ceiling. Any hints?
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use the chime on sorcerer, then let geraint attack, then let branwyn throw the dagger on the chime
Quote from: Yaya on Sat 21/07/2007 01:44:47
How to defeat the gobelins?
I'm stuck on day 5, I think.
I have no idea how to defeat them.
I already fought the giant, have the orb and tried to use it near the fall but it tells me that it is not the right time yet.
Help me please!
getting some stuff to help you
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try getting your flute stolen on certain screens, then catch the thief, in his hideout is something you'll need. He lives nearby the camp, he'll leave a trail.
and
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you'll need to pass by as one of their own (gobliiins) For this you'll need some kind of enchantment, you'll find it on the screen below the giant.
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getting some stuff to help you
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try getting your flute stolen on certain screens, then catch the thief, in his hideout is something you'll need. He lives nearby the camp, he'll leave a trail.
and
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you'll need to pass by as one of their own (gobliiins) For this you'll need some kind of enchantment, you'll find it on the screen below the giant.
Thanks Player1.
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Are you talking about the comb and the golden apple? I have all that already. I was trying to use the orb to freeze the pond (near the waterfall) and use it as a mirror surface with my comb. But it's not working and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I have no idea how to use the golden apple either.
Any other hint you may give me?
Thanks a lot again for your help!
Hey Yaya, as for the golden apple:
Warning: detailed spoilers below :D
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Supposing you haven't gotten rid of the goblins at Havgan yet, go to the lake with standing water. Use the comb and go to Havgan, where the druid used to be but is now overrun by goblins. Go into the druid's old house, and put the golden apple in the stew pot. The goblins will eat it and fall asleep. After that, you can go find Skullcrusher and beat him.
Now for my question. I have done everything I've stated above; but how do I get the orb?
[/spoiler] I've already gotten the key from the raven and returned it to the monk. Now what? Do I just keep looking for the raven? I've tried that and I just can't find it. [/spoiler]
Unable to edit the above message; will try to rephrase better in this one. I have done everything I've said in the spoiler, except for beating Skullcrusher (obviously), since I don't know how to get the orb.
Also, my apologies for the spoiler that got away :-X
Quote from: Anon on Sat 21/07/2007 02:28:45
Hey Yaya, as for the golden apple:
Warning: detailed spoilers below :D
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Supposing you haven't gotten rid of the goblins at Havgan yet, go to the lake with standing water. Use the comb and go to Havgan, where the druid used to be but is now overrun by goblins. Go into the druid's old house, and put the golden apple in the stew pot. The goblins will eat it and fall asleep. After that, you can go find Skullcrusher and beat him.
Now for my question. I have done everything I've stated above; but how do I get the orb?
[/spoiler] I've already gotten the key from the raven and returned it to the monk. Now what? Do I just keep looking for the raven? I've tried that and I just can't find it. [/spoiler]
Thanks a lot Anon, it worked.
As per the orb:
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you need the key, I don't know if you'll be able to get it back from the monk but once you have the key back, open the window in the library and get out of the monastery, then climb through the window (the monk won't be in the library) and you can open the glass cupboard and get the orb.
I can't get to the Gobelin camp. I get back to my humane form and get killed by the gobelin guard. Any hint on that? (I have the gobelin mask in my inventory and tried to use it to no avail)
Quote from: Anon on Sat 21/07/2007 02:28:45
Now for my question. I have done everything I've stated above; but how do I get the orb?
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I've already gotten the key from the raven and returned it to the monk. Now what? Do I just keep looking for the raven? I've tried that and I just can't find it.
How to enter the goblin camp:
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I think that since you've given the key to the monk already (you could have waited until you didn't need the orb anymore) you're never going to get the orb now. As an alternate route, defeat the giant and then ask him to take you to the goblin camp.
Thank you for your suggestions everybody. Unfortunately, I reloaded at the beggining of Chapter 5, since there were many other things that I did not get the first time around. This also mean I have to redo the fairies' quest -____-
Sorry to post again, but how exactly do I beat Skullcrusher?
What I've read so far:
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You can use the bag of sand or the black crystal. Do I have use of the crystal later on in the game? If so, I'd rather keep it. How can I use the bag of sand? Skullcrusher challenges me and I'm forced to draw a weapon. The only thing I can use is the rusty sword, but it's too blunt to do any damage and I die. Is there a trick or something where I can sneak up to him from behind?
Thanks again ;D
Anon -
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You'll need to get your rusty sword polished; you can't use any other weapon for fighting Rashakk
Anon:
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no, you don't need the onyx crystal for anything else. In fact, I found it somewhat of an oversight that you couldn't call down the might of the dark faerie on the sorcerer at the end.
I'm still waiting for some explanation on:
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how precisely to get to this mythic wizard's tower place that shows up on the map from the castle (and seems to be where the lighthouse is). The reason being that I used the holy water on the first barghest and the charm to save the princess from pooka's enchantment, so unless I find this snake symbol mentioned there is no way of removing the barghest with what I have in my possession. It's a shame that the horseshoe can't be used here to trap the barghest in the corner, since it's largely a useless one-off item for gambling with the goblins otherwise.
ProgZmax -
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From the beach area one screen north of the mercenary camp, swim east to get to the island. Horseshoe has two other uses besides gambling, and yes, one of them involves the barghest.
*edit* My Original post was not a good one. Its an enormous spoiler as labeled below with the answer. Dont ruin the mystery for yourself, i actually now wish i hadnt. A game like this is rare as we all know and doesnt come around much at all, dont ruin it for yourself by reading the answer below this post labeled ENORMOUS SPOILER. Its not worth it. *edit*
To Kestrel -
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Thanks, I found the assassin and showed the truth to the princess, and got the same error you mentioned. Most frustrating. I don't suppose you found a way past it?
To Zazzaro (enormous spoiler) -
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Blossom.
Can somebody tell me how to open the door at the tailors shop
How in the world is?????????????!!!!!!!!!
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Calite the assassin? Cause he couldn't pay back the tailor? The Tailor wanted money too? Moreover, what evidence is there that we have to give to the fairy queen that Calite is the assassin. In fact, in one scene, Calite demands that the sorceress apprentice should reveal the assassin. An assassin demands that he be revealed? I only finished the game at about 80% wisdom, so I must've missed evidence that Calite did it? Moreover, we hear, after escaping the castle, from the large house, that someone in that house was involved. How is Calite linked to that house, where the jeweler does business? Calite is the assassin? Please say you're kidding.
Quote from: Huh? on Sat 21/07/2007 06:13:14
How in the world is?????????????!!!!!!!!!
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Calite the assassin? Cause he couldn't pay back the tailor? The Tailor wanted money too? Moreover, what evidence is there that we have to give to the fairy queen that Calite is the assassin. In fact, in one scene, Calite demands that the sorceress apprentice should reveal the assassin. An assassin demands that he be revealed? I only finished the game at about 80% wisdom, so I must've missed evidence that Calite did it? Moreover, we hear, after escaping the castle, from the large house, that someone in that house was involved. How is Calite linked to that house, where the jeweler does business? Calite is the assassin? Please say you're kidding.
Mega-spoilers-
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I didn't really see all the cutscenes, but I just tried it out- and apparently he is the assassin. The reasoning I gave (that worked) was that he wanted to set up a stronger leader... I gave a note and a bit of cloth for evidence. I still need to work backwards, I think, to figure out what's going on...
And personally, I think that conversation at the large house might be a red herring- for the assassin anyway. I think around the time of the assassination, someone was stealing your belt-thingy... which shows up at the jeweler's. I need to replay the game, but that's my theory for the moment.
In my opinion, such a major spoiler probably shouldn't have been posted, because people will read it anyway :P
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It does make sense if you pay attention to dialogue. You can figure out who was in the castle at the time by talking to various characters, and then by process of elimination (figuring out who was doing what during the night), can find out the assassin that way. You don't really *need* to see all the cutscenes to work this out
And yes, there are some red herrings too, but they make sense
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eg, the perfumed hair, is obviously Rhiannon's... and it'd make sense that it's there
oops, missed this:
nobody -
QuoteCan somebody tell me how to open the door at the tailors shop
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There may be something in the stables to help you
Jeni, that makes no sense at all. That person as an assassin is so off base that it can be said that he was chosen for one reason: so people would play again and again. As I said, a cut scene shows that it can't be they. Would an assassin demand that he be revealed.
Additionally, the note is not evidence of anything. Let's look: the note says you predicted so let us come together. Who is this person to make diplomacy? When was he told and why? Who is he to be told of a prophecy?
I really have to laugh? I'm sorry.
I must come to the conclusion that the authors decided on this assassin so as to make us play and play. This makes sense. Why? Cause it took them a long, long while to create this game. So to make that long effort worthwhile, we have to take a long, long time to figure (more like try and try again) out the culprit.
The real assassins, I submit, are the authors. They who assassinate logic and their own pixel reality.
With more thought, an assassin would make sense. It doesn't here.
Not to say it's a bad game. It's a good one. It's just to say, somethings were poorly figured.
Sorry, Huh?, but you must've missed a number of clues for the player...
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To all the city folk, villagers, soldiers, etc, Maeldun IS the murderer. The assassin asks the apprentice to find Maeldun (but refers to him as the assassin of course).
The note works as evidence, because Seelie can't work out if Maeldun is fully correct without some evidence of it. But it's not proper evidence for the player, since anyone could've written it. There are two other items that you can use as evidence.
Being honest, I didn't know who the assassin was for sure until towards the end when we were finishing the game. Only Radiant knew for 2+ years. And then it turned out I was correct just by playing through the game, so you can't just say that the author was illogical.
Fizzi, first off I see no evidence that this person did it. Maybe I missed something as I did only get 80% wisdom.
However, the note proves nothing. In fact, it argues against this individual. As I pointed out, who is this person to make alliances? He is not in the realm's government. And why would that individual contact this assassin? He has no pull in Theylinn.
Moreover, why would the assassin demand that the assassin be revealed when he is the assassin?
To boot, if the assassin did what he did to make Theylinn rougher, how would he know that the daughter would be, or that she would marry someone who would be?
That you didn't know until you were told shows that it was arbitrary and a dice throw.
Hey, the game is well done, but it suffers here.
I didn't know *for sure*, but I had a good idea that it was this character that did it. I didn't make an arbitrary choice - the evidence pointed to this person far more than any other. Besides, someone worked out the assassin by themselves, so it can't be that illogical.
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If you play through properly, you might find some more clues for yourself, and more explanation once all is revealed in the game. Basically the whole thing is rather complex and comes to a power play, and I'm sure you know of another bad guy around.
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Try taking the full truthgem to the assassin for instance, then you'll get a better reason, even if you die :P
And to reply your post below - you don't seem to have paid much attention to the cutscenes before the beginning of the chapters.
Btw, Fizzi, Seelie needs to work things out? Does he not see all?
Fizzi, why would I take the truth gem to the assassin when there is no evidence that he is the assassin? The game demands I take it to the princess, so I can move on.
As I said, I got only 80% wisdom, so maybe there's evidence that so points. But--and I repeat myself--the assassin is overheard demanding that the assassin be revealed.
Now why is that done? Because as I said, the authors, having spent a long time making this game, wanted players to spend a long time playing.
No assassin demands to have himself revealed.
You put that in to misdirect. It makes no sense.
Hmm: I'm stuck betwen a bug and a hard place. When I'm a rabbit, I run into the bug that freezes the game when I try to cross the bridge. Someone hinted that it's possible to get past this point without using the bridge, but I can't manage it- can anyone describe it further?
reagel - try crossing somewhere else. Bridge crossing is a bug which will be fixed when v1.1 is released.
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Try the lilypad
Huh? - to clear things up, this is the dialogue in the cutscene you refer to:
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Have you found that murderer yet?
I'm not looking for him.
Balor's eye! Whiteblade must be found! etc etc
Thanks for the hint Fizzii, but
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when I try to cross at the lily pad, I either get the message about being uncomfortable crossing water or, if I use the hand icon, I get the message that I don't want to uproot the plant. I also occasionally get a strange kind of bug where the fox and I go running around the bushes on the bank and through the stream for some reason. You do mean the lily pad which is one screen to the left of the monastery, right?
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reagel - no, not that one, the other one in the room south. Besides, it's on the other side from where you are, so you can't reach it (though a different response might be good I suppose)
Fizzi, so the assassin asks she who knows to tell?
She knows, and he asks her to tell?
Fizz, it makes no sense at all. Unless you see it as I told: you tale a long time so I have ta' too.
Princess problems
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Could someone please tell me how to save the princess in the woods? I'm stumped.
Huh? -
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The thief yells thief. He is also testing to see if the apprentice knows the truth and if she is a potential danger to him.
for anyone having trouble with stolen flute:
SPOILER.
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I think there might be a way to avoid it for some time. Think about other ways of getting to mercenary camp, to avoid meeting with the thief. Temporary solution, though. you will need to get it stolen. when it happens try visiting the beach.
i need some help with the scarecrow, please SPOILER.
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how do I help the scarecrow? i know i need to go the island i saw on the map in the castle but how can I do thar, seeing that i die swimming there and i can;t board the vessel? is there a route i should figure out to swim anyway?
edit: neve mind, i figued it out.
Fizzii I apologize for asking about the assassin. After digging thru the first 6 or 7 pages i saw numerous discussions about it and figured it had been revealed in the next 7 pages. Like i posted i didnt want to keep digging thru cause i saw a few spoilers that i didnt mean or want to see. I dont want to take anything away from this excellent game you all worked so hard on, and i hope you arent too upset. I would have figured out the assassin purely by process of elimination eventually by choosing answers and restoring until i got it. Yeah I'm that guy that reads the last paragraph of a book before i start reading it.
Now, Ive been trying to get on the caravelgames site but my comcast has been down most of the night and now i cant get on. In my post about the error, you said you could send me a save game file from patch 1.1. I was wondering if that offer is still good and you could send me one saved right at the very start of the game. Will that still fix my error problem when i get there? Im going for the 100, 100. email is zazzarmp@hotmail.com
*edit* For what its worth i edited my original post to try and lure people away from ruining the mystery for themselves. If they want to know so bad, make a table and just try all combinations of people and answers like i should have done. *edit*
hi.
i'm in chapter 8, in a very dark tunnel. i can't go back, because the game won't let me, and i can't go on because it's too dark. how do i proceed? i have a lantern.
nothing seems to be able to make fire? :-\
I'm stuck on chapter 4, I have:
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Been robbed, defeated bargest and won money from goblins. I see the raven has something but I don't know how to make her stay still. I can't get pumpkin and don't know how to defeat the ogre. There is something in the hole outside the ogre camp, but I can't get it. I also can't find the portal.
Any hints or actual solutions?
Mordalles -
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Check Branwyn's inventory
Jon -
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Raven, giant, scarecrow puzzles are related to fairytales (try and think of a fairytale which features a raven, giant strength-proving test, and not-very-smart scarecrow). You can't stick anything down the hole, but is there something that might help bring the object up? Portal should be easy to find - the location is very 'faerie-like', but you do need something to actually reveal the portal
Zazzaro - check your email. An exe file is getting put up at the moment for those who already have the game.
Fizzii:
I am not so good with fairy tales, so I still have no idea. Could you give me a push in the right direction?
Jon -
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Scarecrow - Wizard of Oz (If only I had a brain). You'll need to explore the ocean to find this one.
Raven and shiny thing - one of Aesop's fables (The Fox and the Raven). Try and get it to sing.
Giant - The Brave Little Tailor - prove you're stronger than the giant by means of trickery.
Thanks Fizzii. So does that mean i dont have to get the exe file? Just start playing from the save file, and move it into my ATOTK folder?
Ah, thanks Fizzii, now I have the solution. But..
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I gave the brain to the wizard-girl
Jon - that's a side quest anyway, and should not hinder you from progressing further (Just means you don't get the very best ending)
Zazzaro - You do have to get the exe file, and you replace the v1.0 exe file with this new v1.1exe file (note that your saved games will no longer work with this version)
The exe file can be downloaded here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NEEUX950
It will need to be unzipped to your ATOTK folder.
QuoteUnfortunately, all available bandwidth is currently reserved for our premium customers. Therefore, free downloads will be unavailable for the next 7 hours.
We're working on adding more capacity for free users and would like to apologize for the inconvenience.
Your Megaupload Team
kinda problematic, that download link..
only 7 hours? i would have to wait 20. lol. and even after that time you would need to
try using megaupload toolbar. it sometimes helps..
Quote from: GradyTn on Mon 16/07/2007 05:48:49
How do I
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escape once I sneak out of my room? Can't go downstairs and can't open any door.
do you know how to do it now cause i dont i still stuck?!?!?! ???
Ok, this little rabbit is still totally stuck! Sorry, but can anyone give me very clear step-by-step directions on how to
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get to the screen with the lily pad? Once I get to the bridge I can either go back to the beach (right) or back to the cross roads (up) but I can't go along the stream to the left. If I go back to the crossroads, I can go up to the monastery, and then left to the stream bank, but at this point I can't go down to the point with the lily pad. (I can do this in human form by walking across the stream, but not in rabbit form.)
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HELP
How do I open the latch at the tailors shop?
Guest, to open the latch,
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use the nail that you pulled out of the post in the stables
I absolutely loved this game, and remember checking it out a couple years ago. So glad it's finally released and well worth the wait!
I beat the game with an okay ending, and now I'm playing through very carefully and trying to get 100/100.
However I'm stuck escaping the castle...
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...without breaking the vase. How is it done?
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Ways I know to escape:
1. Douse the barracks torch, drop vase
2. Toss vase through window
~Sirus
HELP!!
How do you do the maze/gems?
Have tried mapping the whole thing out and still can't do it!!
P S~
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The maze is different each time you play. It's basically just trial and error. Pick one of the items and goes as far as you can through the doors, collecting the games that you can. Then go back and pick another item that will get you further.
Keys to the maze doors:
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Item - Door
Mole claw - rocks
Eagle wing - clouds
Dragon Scale - fire
Leaf - leaves
Bat wing - night
reagel~
I don't think you even need to go near the bridge. How I did it...
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...was to have the fox chase me from the scarecrow and went down, down, left, left, and click walk on the lilypad. Those directions might be wrong (and I can't go back and check cause I saved over the file), but basically just take the shortest route to the lilypad.
~Sirus
Sorry if I am repeating someone else's question. I only read about half of this thread because (a) it's 16 pages long and (b) in checking out spoilers looking for someone in my same situation, I ended up learning the solutions to like 6 different puzzles I hadn't even encountered yet, which is a bit frustrating since it detracts from the satisfaction of solving at least a few of those on my own.
Anyway, I'm in chapter 4--
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My two biggest questions are:
-How do I get an animal for the druid? I'd prefer not to use the well wish since I want to save it (and besides even using the well wish, I don't know what to do). I found the squirrel and the acorns but can't seem to capture the squirrel--teh bag is apparently too small.
-Is there some way to play dice with the goblins without losing my bottle? I want to be able to keep the bottle so I can get more cider later for use with faeries if necessary. Once again, if I can avoid it I don't want to use the well just yet--I know I can wish for wealth but if there's a way to have the goblins' wealth, the cider, AND still have my wish un-used, then that's the way I want.
-Is there any point to wishing for a drink at the well? It was hilarious seeing Cuppit again but it didn't do anything for me that I can see.
Storygamer~
Animal: (progressive hints)
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You need something bigger, some sort of cloth.
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You get it in the town.
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The cloak at the tailor's.
Bottle:
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You can retrieve your bottle. They toss it into the river.
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Check the next screen over.
Drink Wish:
I think the fact that Cuppit shows up says that its a easter egg/red herring/joke by the creators.
~Sirus
I am stuck at the beginnin of chapter 5. Can anyone give me some hints, please
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I have the orb from the monastery, the flute, a golden apple, cider, lantern, shovel, the note from the jeweller about the belt, the rune, the stone from the druid. I have already been to the sidhe and spoke with the Queen of fair folk. Now I donlt know how to beat the goblin army, help the sorcerer girl and get my belt or matches.
If anyone could offer any hints, I would be grateful.
I asked this question a couple pages ago and no one responded, so I'm going to go ahead and ask it again. I hope that isn't poor hint forum etiquette.
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Could someone please tell me how to save the princess in the woods? Spoil me, please.
Jocker
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If you want to help the fairy girl, go to the monastery and talk to the monk. There's a book in the library that can help you, but you can't read it without someone's assistance.
Hope that helps!
Leonard -
Quote from: Leonard LePage on Sat 21/07/2007 21:13:17
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Could someone please tell me how to save the princess in the woods? Spoil me, please.
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The rune you find in the goblins' camp can dispell faery magic. Helping Rhiannon is a side quest, by the way.
Meerbat, thank you very much!
Yes it does Leonard thank you and if you want to help the princess.. oh i see someone posted a spoiler for that :)
Regarding the rune...
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Is there anyway to acquire it before you beat the Goblin Warleader in a duel? I've tried to get it before, but every time I break out of my cage and grab the rune, I get caught. It tells me I haven't been stealthy enough, but I don't know how to increase my stealth.
Sirus or anyone else for that matter, I'm also trying to get a perfect score and am having trouble escaping by
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not breaking the vase. Also, i couldnt find the hair again. I thought it was in the kings room but i couldnt find it
Quote from: Leonard LePage on Sat 21/07/2007 22:03:57
Regarding the rune...
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Is there anyway to acquire it before you beat the Goblin Warleader in a duel? I've tried to get it before, but every time I break out of my cage and grab the rune, I get caught. It tells me I haven't been stealthy enough, but I don't know how to increase my stealth.
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grab the rune but <Maeldun isn;t going anywhere without wetting his feet.
hope it helps
and another, small question..
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i know the game has no dead-end situations but is there any way to trade the tailor's life if you didn't get the shiled earlier? I already helped the girl and freed the kingdom of the goblin thread, but i hadnlt niticed that particular shiled when i had the occasion to grab it. Is there anything else I could trade for the poor man's life? i tried the crystal and the pumpkin, they donlt seem interested. just a hint if there is anything else i can find?
would appreciate a pointer on this.
For the love of God... I've already played through, but without doing the giant side quest and getting a crappy ending all because I can't figure out how to pick up the bloody pigeon.
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From the moment I saw it, I said, 'better take that to the druid,' but nothing seems to make the bird budge and I've been fussing with it for three hours. I've even tried giving all of my items to Branwyn (it wouldn't wllow me to) on the off chance it had to be carried seperately), and still it gives me a message simply stating 'The pigeon ruffles its feathers' the moment i try to move it.
Either kill me or help me, please...
O great... different BBS tags. Crap. Sorry for the minor spoiler.
Girdle Question
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How do I get the girdle back?
Do I have to break into the Jeweler's shop after it's closed?
If so, how?
Quote from: O on Sun 22/07/2007 00:30:06
For the love of God... I've already played through, but without doing the giant side quest and getting a crappy ending all because I can't figure out how to pick up the bloody pigeon. Spoiler
From the moment I saw it, I said, 'better take that to the druid,' but nothing seems to make the bird budge and I've been fussing with it for three hours. I've even tried giving all of my items to Branwyn (it wouldn't wllow me to) on the off chance it had to be carried seperately), and still it gives me a message simply stating 'The pigeon ruffles its feathers' the moment i try to move it.
Either kill me or help me, please...
A hint/spoiler
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Seen a well? Make the well fulfill your wish.
Beat the game without too much trouble, but I have a few outstanding questions (about sidequests mostly). Probably some pretty big spoilers below.
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- I guessed the right assassin (just since he'd been obviously lying the whole time I guess), but when I gave the gem to the princess after that, the game crashed. Has this been fixed in the new version that was posted eariler? Hope so ... since that will necessitate starting the game all over again, it'd be nice to get a couple hints as to how to do some of the sidequests, as there are no logical ways to start them, or any hints in the game whatsoever, really. IE ...
- Getting the belt back from the jeweller. I assume this can be done in the time she's out of her shop, but there's really no obvious way to go about this.
- Helping the changeling ... he says he can't go through the gate because he doesn't want to. Maybe there was supposed to be a hint given somewhere, but I guess it was too vague for me :P
- Helping the apprentice. Perhaps this has something to do with the cider-making woman in the village, but who knows.
- Using the horseshoe to beat the Barghest. This is more just curiosity really, as I want to see what happens.
Oh, and I don't know if these have been fixed yet, but a few fairly major crash bugs: 1). The previously mentioned one with the princess. 2). If you happen to have the goblin in boxer shorts appear in that screen to the south of the village (only happened to me once) and you talk to him, the game crashes after the first line of dialogue. 3). If you try to use the self-bored stone when Rhiannon is trapped in the forest, you can't leave your inventory and the game freezes if you hit escape. 4). If you play your flute a 2nd time in the main hall in the end game, the dialogue replays (in red) and then the game crashes when it tries to move the non-existant guards. 5). When you're being chased by the Barghest, if you try to enter the ship the game locks up. Probably happens at the monestary window too.
That's all. Thanks for any hints/nudges anyone can provide. I was thinking of trying to put together a walkthrough, but I'm not smart enough to get 100% in both stats :P
Changeling Sidequest Hint-
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You have to find his 'double' in the human world, and you have to have seen some sort of proof that he's not human.
Quote from: jenimad on Sun 22/07/2007 06:37:25
Changeling Sidequest Hint-
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You have to find his 'double' in the human world, and you have to have seen some sort of proof that he's not human.
I have no idea how to get that proof.
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I assume you're talking about the urchin. After I steal the apple from his ship he tells me to leave and I never see him again. I've tried giving him cider when he's at the bridge (I heard faeries like it) but it just says "you don't want to spray the urchin with cider" or something like that.
Quote from: Fay on Sun 22/07/2007 07:11:41
Quote from: jenimad on Sun 22/07/2007 06:37:25
Changeling Sidequest Hint-
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You have to find his 'double' in the human world, and you have to have seen some sort of proof that he's not human.
I have no idea how to get that proof.
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I assume you're talking about the urchin. After I steal the apple from his ship he tells me to leave and I never see him again. I've tried giving him cider when he's at the bridge (I heard faeries like it) but it just says "you don't want to spray the urchin with cider" or something like that.
There's probably other methods to do it, but-
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Use the goblin iron symbol-thing on him in the brief pause while you're in the ship.
I've only just downloaded but am stuck, I cant seem to walk of the pier just goes to the end but wont walk off
Quote from: leis on Sun 22/07/2007 09:16:13
I've only just downloaded but am stuck, I cant seem to walk of the pier just goes to the end but wont walk off
oh! I see dont worry about answering I just worked it out
KuroShiro,Hi. :) :)..plz,put WT in any shape ! its veery difficalt to play but veery interesting Game to give up.. :(
I ask ab WT b4 ,looks like nobody bother..Why,why all that fight?those who like to play without WT ,they can procede..isnt it?
But i am abut to lelete Game,cose it make me very nervous sometime,not to find out in situation..
So ,at this moment ,its nice to have just A LOOK,if i am on right truck.. :)
Plz do it, plz..
thanks in advance... :)
Need help on assassin
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What evidence do I need?
And the belt
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How to I begin to get this back?
Help! Stuck at end:
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In the castle at end. Have used flute, and then shovel with statue. Am now stuck in the room. What do I do?
Stuck on chapter 5, how do I do the faeries test?
On the 1.1 version of the game, i think the pigeon might be bugged unless the puzzle has changed.
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On my first run thru the pigeon was directly north or my camp and i was just able to walk up and pick up him/her up. Now on my second run thru the pigeon is where the waterfall is and you use the ice orb, but all it does is ruffle its feathers when i try to pick it up and ive used the kindness to animals wish at the well. i have no way to get it. Whats going on here.
Quote from: Jon on Sun 22/07/2007 18:21:13
Stuck on chapter 5, how do I do the faeries test?
A hint.
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There is no one answer here as the riddle changes from one game to another. You should map it out. Note the colours of the doors.
Quote from: Fizzii on Sat 21/07/2007 06:49:35
In my opinion, such a major spoiler probably shouldn't have been posted, because people will read it anyway :P
This is a help thread. Someone asked a question, and I answered it, but I agree, in retrospect, it was probably a poor judgement call on my part. Apologies. I've edited my post to contain ridiculous and misleading information, but I'm afraid there isn't much I can do about the reaction. >_o
Jocker -
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It's random, but whenever I've played I've had a configuration like this in the opening room:
A _ B
C C
Invariably I have been able to solve the puzzle by choosing the item corresponding with door A and one of two items that doesn't correspond with any of the initially visible doors. (So shouldn't need take more than 2 tries.) But I don't know if that was just odd luck for me, or if that's an actual pattern. All I know is it's worked on three consecutive play-throughs.
Your goal is to collect all four gems and return them to the alter in the room that best fits them.
well I'm trying to make a point list to figure out exactly which paths lead to better score, so regarding that, Radiant said that:
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it's possible to escape the castle without using the urn, but I have not been able to do this as in order to take the 2nd path you need to break the window and the urn is the only thing that works for that, as far as I could tell, so if anyone knows how to do it another way...
Quote from: Zazzaro on Sun 22/07/2007 18:49:30
On the 1.1 version of the game, i think the pigeon might be bugged unless the puzzle has changed.
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On my first run thru the pigeon was directly north or my camp and i was just able to walk up and pick up him/her up. Now on my second run thru the pigeon is where the waterfall is and you use the ice orb, but all it does is ruffle its feathers when i try to pick it up and ive used the kindness to animals wish at the well. i have no way to get it. Whats going on here.
I'm thinking it's a bug, too, then. You are having the same problem as I except the pigeon has been in the same place both times.
And thank you, Jocker, for the response, but
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I actually made the wish to have animals trust me and it is still doing this.
If it is a bug, I'll be relieved to know that I am not crazy and that it really was impossible, but I'll still be crazy for having tried so hard and long... >___<
Hello again (3rd time). Seems like nobody knows how to answer my question, but I'll ask it one last time anyway.
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I'm at the end/staircase/princess bedroom and I DO NOT have the flute. What can I still do to win? I gave the flute away to the pookie.
I think the developers said there weren't any walking deads that they knew of, and if this is one, I really, really don't wanna go back and replay the game. Somebody please tell me I can still win.
This is the most complex, side-quests-available, multiple-solutions adventure game I've ever played! What this game really needs is a comprehensive walkthru--has the author or anyoen else made one yet? Just going through this thread looking for the solutions I need is like playing another adventure game entirely!
Thanks to those who helped me previously. I'm stuck again, in Chapter 5 this time. I'd appreciate some strong hints:
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-How do I beat the giant at his strength test? Based on the fairy tale this comes from, I assume I need to find some cheese somewhere to pretend it's a rock. But I can't find cheese anywhere. Or is there some other way to do this?
-How do I save Havgan and route the goblins as the Fairy Queen asked me to do?
I haven't used my wish yet--but I can't get to the well anyway--I do NOT have cider (just empty bottle), but I do have two full pages of inventory (so I won't list every item). I just succeeded in helping the robed girl but it didn't appear to accomplish anything other than increasing my honor score.
This game rocks, btw!
Quote from: O on Sun 22/07/2007 21:24:47
Quote from: Zazzaro on Sun 22/07/2007 18:49:30
On the 1.1 version of the game, i think the pigeon might be bugged unless the puzzle has changed.
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On my first run thru the pigeon was directly north or my camp and i was just able to walk up and pick up him/her up. Now on my second run thru the pigeon is where the waterfall is and you use the ice orb, but all it does is ruffle its feathers when i try to pick it up and ive used the kindness to animals wish at the well. i have no way to get it. Whats going on here.
I'm thinking it's a bug, too, then. You are having the same problem as I except the pigeon has been in the same place both times.
And thank you, Jocker, for the response, but Spoiler
I actually made the wish to have animals trust me and it is still doing this.
If it is a bug, I'll be relieved to know that I am not crazy and that it really was impossible, but I'll still be crazy for having tried so hard and long... >___<
hmm. Strange everything worked fine for me in this case. i don't know why wouldn't it let you do it.
I had to start over due to some bugs, but -
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Does anyone know how to escape the castle in the beginning without breaking the vase? I assume it has something to do with finding one of the secret passageways mentioned in the royal library, but I can't figure it out!
also -
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I was thinking that, in order to escape without breaking the vase, I may have to acquire the rope on the dummy in Geraint's quarters before the murder takes place. Geraint won't let me take the rope, but I think if I can distract him long enough with the alarum bell I might have a chance to slip in and take it. The problem is, I can't figure out how to get to Geraint's quarters after ringing the bell without Geraint stopping me along the way.
Am I on the right track? Help!
Quote from: Storygamer on Sun 22/07/2007 22:00:25
This is the most complex, side-quests-available, multiple-solutions adventure game I've ever played! What this game really needs is a comprehensive walkthru--has the author or anyoen else made one yet? Just going through this thread looking for the solutions I need is like playing another adventure game entirely!
Thanks to those who helped me previously. I'm stuck again, in Chapter 5 this time. I'd appreciate some strong hints:
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-How do I beat the giant at his strength test? Based on the fairy tale this comes from, I assume I need to find some cheese somewhere to pretend it's a rock. But I can't find cheese anywhere. Or is there some other way to do this?
-How do I save Havgan and route the goblins as the Fairy Queen asked me to do?
I haven't used my wish yet--but I can't get to the well anyway--I do NOT have cider (just empty bottle), but I do have two full pages of inventory (so I won't list every item). I just succeeded in helping the robed girl but it didn't appear to accomplish anything other than increasing my honor score.
This game rocks, btw!
giant
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yes, you need to trick him. Three items, you need. one of them may resemble rock but you can easily smash it and it is easily accesible.. The second one is supposed to be one of the things that a good warrior should posses, and may trick the giant too. The third item is something that flies up.
the second one i donlt know yet. But hope this one will give you some clue.
Quote from: Storygamer on Sun 22/07/2007 22:00:25
This is the most complex, side-quests-available, multiple-solutions adventure game I've ever played! What this game really needs is a comprehensive walkthru--has the author or anyoen else made one yet? Just going through this thread looking for the solutions I need is like playing another adventure game entirely!
Thanks to those who helped me previously. I'm stuck again, in Chapter 5 this time. I'd appreciate some strong hints:
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-How do I beat the giant at his strength test? Based on the fairy tale this comes from, I assume I need to find some cheese somewhere to pretend it's a rock. But I can't find cheese anywhere. Or is there some other way to do this?
-How do I save Havgan and route the goblins as the Fairy Queen asked me to do?
I haven't used my wish yet--but I can't get to the well anyway--I do NOT have cider (just empty bottle), but I do have two full pages of inventory (so I won't list every item). I just succeeded in helping the robed girl but it didn't appear to accomplish anything other than increasing my honor score.
This game rocks, btw!
the goblins/some hints.
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you need to sneak into the village without causing alarm- you need a disguise. the disguise would be of fair folk's doing- but an object is what youre looking for (think of the changeling) you need to "snow-white" the goblins. Then you go fight the skullcrusher. To win you must prove once again that you are a good warrior./hide]
I'm kinda-sorta working on a walkthrough at the moment- it's really really messy, though, so it might be a while (assuming someone else doesn't beat me to it). I'm working on the Belt sidequest at the moment...
But anyhow, to get the rope (blatant)-
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Pull the rope to ring the alarm when there's no guards wandering in the hallway, and then use the hand icon on the balcony in front of the king's bedroom to jump down. Then you can scoot into the guardroom and grab the rope.
TheJBurger -
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You should be able to create a distraction someplace else, even if you don't have the flute.
Leonard -
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You can escape using the rope, but you might want to hold on to it instead. It is much more useful than the vase.
Big honkin' spoilers for the belt-
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All right, so I've finally managed to sneak into town after dark and break into the Jeweler's shop... but she calls the guards on me. Any idea of what to do to prevent that? Did I miss some item I should have brought with me?
Jenimad
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When can you move around at night? Also how'd you break in? Did you use a rope?
Hints/spoilers for the belt quest-
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You need the rope, yes.
You also need someone with experience at being a bit underhanded- perhaps you can get this person's cooperation somehow?
It was pretty easy once it got rolling, but while you can activate everything early, you can't do the break-in until Chapter Six.
More blatant-
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You need to somehow get the thief's cooperation- try giving him a taste of his own medicine.
I have finished the game by niw with a pretty good score..I am just wondering... and this is a yes or no questiion, concerning the ending.
*WARNING* big spoiler comes next.
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is there a way to end the game so that Geraint is ok? i guess i am hoping he will. he's a pretty decent guy, it would be a shame if he stayed in such a..peculiar condition. /hide]
Jenimad
I'm what you'd call a challenged adventurer :P Could you be very blatant, like in telling? Just title your spoiler that you're answering specifically. Thanks.
What I have worked out for the belt quest so far-
BLATANT spoilers (don't say I didn't warn anyone):
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First of all, you need to know where the belt is and have something physical to show people. You just need to look at the ad for it and then click on it with the hand icon in the Jewelry store- the lady will give you a piece of paper about it.
Then you need to have had your flute stolen- when you go to get it back, stop in the entrance and look up- realizing there is a net there makes it so you won't trip it. Proceed as usual, getting your stuff back. When the game tells you that there's someone coming, click the hand icon on the net- this will cause you to spring the trap and catch the thief- I don't know if there are other ways to do it, but I chose to talk at him a bit and get him to promise to stop thieving.
Once the thief is sorta on your side, you can show him the belt advertisement... I don't know if I should continue, but that's a HUGE start on getting the belt back.
Thanks Jenimad
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I tried to cut the net down but that didn't work.
Looking forward to your walkthrough if you decide to make it. (Pease make it! :-*)
Dang it i wonder why im having the pigeon problem. No one else seems to be having this problem. I wonder if its something i did questwise that triggered it. Like i said i thought maybe it was a bug or they changed the puzzle with it cause on my second run thru, items are in different places. The raven is in a new spot, and the single coin you find is in a new spot. I guess i can start over again and see if i run into the same problem.
Quote from: Guest on Mon 23/07/2007 00:32:01
Thanks Jenimad
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I tried to cut the net down but that didn't work.
Looking forward to your walkthrough if you decide to make it. (Pease make it! :-*)
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Don't cut the net down- just look at it when you first get in the ship so it won't fall on you, and use the hand icon on it when you know the thief is coming back.
I could do a bare-minimum walkthrough at the moment... But I'm trying for something neater ;D I probably still won't get all the alternate solutions and such...
Thank you Jenimad and Meerbat! Both of you have been tremendously helpful.
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but...
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...in the beginning of the game when you're at the castle, you can see Ruadh (the thief) wandering about on the top floor. I tried to look at him, touch him and speak to him, but he ignored me.
Is this "sighting" important to the game later on? It's a really great touch, I'm just wondering what relevance it bears to the rest of the story. Maybe I should wait and see for myself?
Okay, I managed to get past where I was stuck with the belt, so I've finished the game. My final score was 95/94, I was missing five cutscenes, and I did all the sidequests.
I can't promise I know EVERYTHING, but I am going to work on that walkthrough and try and give some help here still.
Plus I have to figure out what to do with a walkthrough anyhow, because it'll likely be kinda unwieldy to post here ^_^;
Jenimad, post it either as a new thread or on the AGS walkthrough site.
I definitely don't have all the alternate solutions to things, or 100%... Would anyone mind if I did a new thread? That way I could edit in alternate solutions and people could easily contribute...
Hrm, I'm not sure that's even allowed though ^_^;
Jenimad, post a new thread and people who don't want to see a walkthrough don't have to read it.
Btw, the belt
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how do I beat the alarm
I'll try and organize my notes and I'll make a new thread- right now all I have is a big text file of everything I did and in what chapter ^_^; I'm going to try and at least group it by quest/task.
Belt alarm-
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Do you mean the Jeweler catching you, or something else? Highlight the next bit if that's what you meant.
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I've only found two solutions so far- one bad (Lost ALL my honor points) and one that doesn't lose points.
Basically the hint? Try throwing something at her. I don't think you can avoid triggering her.
Thanks, jenimad. Take your time on the WT.
I know there's a coin by the waterfall but when my game died and I had to start over, it wasn't there! What's going on??
Quote from: claire on Mon 23/07/2007 03:50:29
I know there's a coin by the waterfall but when my game died and I had to start over, it wasn't there! What's going on??
A couple of things in the game have their location randomized as far as I can tell- the coin being one of them.
Quote from: Meerbat on Sun 22/07/2007 23:44:46
TheJBurger -
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You should be able to create a distraction someplace else, even if you don't have the flute.
Leonard -
What exactly do I need to do?
Jenimad -
Just for the hell of it, I've started working on a walkthrough. I managed to get 100% of the cutscenes (some are *really* easy to miss), and finished almost everything. Just figured since you said you are writing one, I would ask if you want to collaborate. Let me know ;D Oh, and thanks for the nudge ^^.
Jenimad~
I too am working on a walkthrough of sorts. I started work out a point list, which I'll PM to you. Hope it helps you out.
~Sirus
TheJBurger -
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I suggest pyromania
Please help
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Where do I find grass?
Quote from: Fizzii on Mon 23/07/2007 07:55:23
TheJBurger -
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I suggest pyromania
SIRUS,Hi...can you send me also WT? dearme9@yahoo.com
I will be very gratifull...thanks :) :) :)
Ok. a hint, please? i am doing the belt sidequest and..
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know how to secure help within the city but have no idea where to get a rope?
and Rolyn..
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In the monastery there is a book you can read with someone;s learned help
hope it helps.
Thanks but
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Did that = I need the physical place - I went to the place suggested in the book - nothing happened
Well, Finished my second run thru with 95 wisdom, 95 honor, 19/20 cutscenes, and 5/5 side quests. So close to perfect. I wonder what I'm missing, although i have a feeling. I have a pretty good idea on the cutscene, and where i could earn more points. Anyone that has finished, please read this spoiler to speculate on possible points and cutscene i missed.
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At the start, the bard said he might go see the druid, i kept checking there during each chapter and left and entered his area over and over but the bard never showed. Anyone see a cutscene with them? And points... I'm sure there is more than one way to beat the sorcerer. Im guessing you have to beat it without Geriard being turned into a bird. Anyone found any other ways to beat the end. Also the evidence for the assassin i heard there was a crumpled note and pieces of hair. I did not find those which im sure cost me a few points.
Quote from: rolyn on Mon 23/07/2007 11:12:54
Thanks but
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Did that = I need the physical place - I went to the place suggested in the book - nothing happened
oh I see what you mean, yes..
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this is one of those things i can;t realy understand. the same thing happened to me once- when I did the quest too late in game. I think there is something that you must do before you can find the grass but right now am not currently sure what. I did sometime in chapter 4 and worked fine, after i talked to the girl twice. Unless it is randomized and you can find other places similar to the one mentioned in the book?.
sorry i can't be of more help.
Rolyn:
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you need to have the monk use the top-right book and then he tells you where the grass is. The location changes each time you play, so I don't know if it'll help but I've had it be in the stump one screen before the tool shed, and in the fairy circle.
Zazzaro:
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the hair is on the door to vortigern's room after he is murdered, you need to look at the door and then you can take it. And the note is attached to the pigeon's foot.
Thanks got it
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Now how do you pick up the cheese
Yes
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in boat at entrance in chest
Quote from: rolyn on Mon 23/07/2007 13:21:47
Yes
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in boat at entrance in chest
You can't take that.
Actually I have the exact same problem....Would you mind telling me how you got around it?
Thanks!
I'm right at the beginning and I have a question. I'm not stuck s such, But something is confusing me.
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I have the sceptor and I went into the chamber that had been prepared for me. After some looking around and not finding much, I went to exit the room. Instead of going into the hallway I was tken to a dream sequence where a woman told me to choose two of 7 objects.
But before I had the chance to check the objects out I accidently clicked on the exit, and instead of going back into the chamber I was in some kind of meadow. I wanted to go back into the room with the objects so I restored my savegame and started from back in the chamber...
... BUT... clicking on the door this time brought me back into the hallway instead of the dream sequence again, and nothing I do seems to be able to trigger it off again.
Is there way way of triggering this to happen or does it occur randomly? I really want to check it out before meeting the king for dinner.
Thanks
Quote from: Jocker on Sun 22/07/2007 19:38:23
Quote from: Jon on Sun 22/07/2007 18:21:13
Stuck on chapter 5, how do I do the faeries test?
A hint.
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There is no one answer here as the riddle changes from one game to another. You should map it out. Note the colours of the doors.
I have tried all the combinations and at most can only get 4 crystals. Any hints?
There are only four crystals. You have to match the colored crystals with their corresponding room colors. red room, red crystal. You have to place the crystals back on the colums.
I have played this game 3 times, all with different endings. I am now trying a fourth time and I cannot get the rope at the beginning. I know it has something to do with the bell. But Geraint always busts me. Can someone help. Also, how do I defeat the sorceror at the end of the game. My people get turned into animals and i die. I can't even use the chimes. THANKS!
I figured out the rope thing.
According to a hint on page 3 of this thread,
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in order to defeat the giant I need the healed pigeon. To heal the pigeon I need to speak to the druid, but he's not there (not in his house and not in the woods.
Is there another way to heal the pigeon, or another way to defeat the giant?
Thanks.
Aha -
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I see I can disguise myself as a goblin if I use the comb. I'll see what I can do with that.
Are you in chapter 5? If so, then you are too far into the game.
Yes, I'm in chapter 5, alas :(
Paolo -
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The druid will come back after you run the goblins out of Havgan. I think you can still do the giant side quest after that.
Hm, if I use
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the comb with the water, which reflects me like a mirror, I can't move any more... what is going on?
Thanks, Lyaer.
That sounds like a bug. You're doing the right thing.
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Make sure you're not standing -in- the pond. And have you returned the comb to Blossom yet?
I have finished he game 4times by now. The only thing I still can't get is one of the sidequests.
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I really don't know how to help the changeling
Anyone has any thoughts on this? Any tips?
I wanted to commend and thank the creators. I always loved Sierra King;s Quest and Quest for glory. Your work is just as good with vivd graphics, great storyline, lots of options, lots of things to do. i love this game just as much as i love AGD interacrive;s king's quest remakes. Ilove the fact that it offers lots of solutions.
I love the puzzles, albeit there are some tricky ones. Thanks for providing me with some quality gaming fun in a world of legends and fairy tales.
Quote from: Lyaer on Mon 23/07/2007 18:38:57
That sounds like a bug. You're doing the right thing.
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Make sure you're not standing -in- the pond. And have you returned the comb to Blossom yet?
I got it to work. I think it might have been
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because I was standing right by the right-hand exit of that room. Yes, I had already returned the comb to Blossom.
Thanks.
I just started the game again trying to recheck my point list, and try to get more points, and I noticed something for the first time:
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on chapter 1, after I exit the throne room a second time, I see the peasant walking along the top floor... it's impossible to interact with him in any way, or to talk to anyone about him after seeing him... really weird.
At the end:
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How do you defeat the sorcerer?
Stuck in episode 2:
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how do I escape the room? I understand I'm supposed to get the statue to fall and have a decoy to distract the guard so I can escape... but how do I make a decoy?
Nostradamus,
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Look around you. Is there anything that you could stuff the bed with so it'll look as if it's occupied?
I have a few questions about items in the game. After finishing the game and reading through this thread, I don't see how these items are useful:
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The shell;
The bone you find under the skull;
The horseshoe (other than gambling)
Thanks =)
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The shell: can be used for money or to get an honor point.
The bone you find under the skull is a red herring.
The horseshoe (other than gambling) can be used to trap the barghest, as in the book you can read in the library.
Thanks Meerbat. Could you give me a hint as to how I can use the shell?
Hey, could anybody tell me how to get in the wizard's tower?
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I've heard that it's in the watchtower, but how do I get in? I've used the water-bored stone, but nothing happens. I am in chapter 5, btw.
the wizard's tower is:
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not in the watchtower, but on an island when you swim east from the mercenary camp entrance.
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The shell can be sold. Or given to someone who in return shows themselves to you.
Oh, and I missed a third use for the horseshoe. It is involved in one of the hardest side-quests, which also involves the rope.
jemmy
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In order to help the changeling, you have to know what he is and find and reveal his counterpart.
Can someone help me get off the balcony. I can't get past the guard when I climb down.
Thank you
Just a wild guess, but is the person I'm supposed to reveal
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the socceror's apprentice? Does she have anything to do with the changeling? And how can I get her to reveal herself; I've been in the tower once already and found nothing useful except the snake thing.
Thanks in advance =)
There is already a thread about this game. However, in order to get past the guard:
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You must talk to him, then once he steps out of the alcove, drop the vase on his head.
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you need to talk to the apprentice and she tells you about the changeling. but she isn't his counterpart. Now when the switcharoo was made, a faery child was brought in the human realm. It should not quite fit with the rest of the humans. When in doubt just look left while you read this. ;D
Thanks Asd.......did check the threads first .....must have missed this one.
I see :o
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But how do I find the apprentice? =\ I've been randomly clicking the shell everywhere I can think of, but she's still not showing herself. Spoil me please =)
Actually, if you have a question, ask in that thread and all the experienced members would be glad to help you =)
Actually, I just gave the shell to
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the Pooka. It increased my honor, but I don't see how it helped with anything, and I still can't find the apprentice -_-
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Yes, the shell just increases your honor and that's it, it has nothing to do with the other quest.
The sorcerer 's apprentice is the girl that walks around in the city or sometimes sits on the docks pondering.
Thank you, Meerbat. i missed this one a big time, will give me something to think and read about.
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I've already given her the grass, so she's gone now...I guess I could reload from the beggining of the chapter.
Also, sorry for turning this thread into a two way conversation '^.^
i've been following the last page of this thread, and i have a question about the changling side quest
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how do you prove that the thief is his counterpart? i know his eyes sparkle, but do you have to bring him to the fairy's realm?
The JBurger already asked this question, but I couldn't find a reply here. As I'm stuck in the same situation:
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at the end: how do I defeat the sorcerer?
Please help!
Assuming that you are already in the king's bedroom:
Detailed spoilers below ;D
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Have Geraint (sp?) attack him. Give your dagger to the girl. Use your chime on him. He will send it flying to the ceiling. Have the girl hit the chime with her dagger, and the fairy queen will be summoned to defeat him.
Thank you Anon
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i tried to use the dagger myself, which i should have known wouldn't work, and i guess i never would have had the idea that letting Geraint attack would do the trick. So off to a non-? ending
Hello hello, all people having trouble with the game. Just wanted to let you know I've posted a FULL walkthrough here (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=31927.0). Many, many thanks to jenimad for his crazy note-taking which made this possible.
I seem to have a similar problem where I am trying to escape from the city in costume but can't seem to get to the edge of the pier. Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance!
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
I'm one wisdom point away!!!!!!!!!
I just got 99/100/18/5. I've gotten the two other cutscenes before, I just forgot during this playthrough. (Paradur/Morholt and Rhiannon/Geraint )
Otherwise, do I get to take the glory as the one with the highest score? ;D If not, can I take the glory for figuring out how to beat the barghest with the horseshoe? (not recommended though)
~Sirus
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a long shot but could the last wisdom point be:
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hiding behind a tree as a goblin when you hear someone coming?
I found that point yesterday and thought someone else might miss it.
i cant get passed the guard when your the first time in the city
Sirus,
the highest I ever got was 97 Wisdom 100 Honor, 20 cutscenes and 5 side quests :)
I have a suspicion that the one thing I did too early and it ended up costing me the 3 points I didn't get is the same thing that you missed.
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btw, you can trap the barghest and then release him and kill him. Or find the last use it can have. Though, yes, this last one prevents you from completing one major quest.
[/spoiler]I just gave the sword to blacksmith to get it polished and the blacksmith says to come back later.
But the only thing i got left to do on Chapter 5 is fight the Goblin Leader at the camp and i need my sword back. Is it possible to just wait and how long do i have to wait or do i have to restore to an earlier point help!
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John
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Well, i am stuck in chapter 8.
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I am in the castle but i don't have the flaute and if i touch the statue it falls and they catch me.
I have found the princess but i don't have holy water or the snake figure.
help
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After talking with the druid as a rabbit, I can't get by the fox to get to the fearie ring without getting eatin. Can someone help...please
I have a question. I have been able to see the:
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Sorcerer's tower on the island with the brain. Is there anything to do there? If you walk up the stairs, the man kills you. I am in Chapter 6, having just refused to stay in the faerie realm.
Also, is there any way to avoid the game crashing when I visit the ship after I've shown the changeling who he really is? IF there is, please tell me when I can start that quest.
Vicki
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If you stay to the left of the river the fox shouldn't be a problem.
Matt
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You can smash the crystal and take the serpent thing on the shelf.
HK
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Just jump in the water from the ledge, not the pier.
Just wondering is the piece of paper that says ATOTK notepad. Click on any line to edit have any use in the game.
John
Where do I find the giant?
Snoopy -
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The paper allows you to take notes, without running to fetch a REAL pen and paper, but it doesn't do anything else as far as I'm aware. Certainly nothing vital or part of any major sidequest.
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He's to the north, just between the main city and the goblin camp.
I'm having the same problem as some others with a certain feathered friend sitting there ruffling his feathers and not letting me pick him up!
ANYONE FIND A SOLUTION???
YES--I'VE WISHED CORRECTLY
YES--I'VE TRIED RESTARTING ALREADY AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
I played thru this game 3 times. The first time the pigeon worked. Second time i had the same problem you did and unfortunately i found no solution and had to start over. Third play thru the pigeon worked. The only thing really different i did on plays 1 and 3 was i used the bucket of water to get out of the castle. The 2nd run i used the vase. Not sure if that triggers the bug, but like i said i had to play over.
Hi,plz help me.. :) :)
I walk straight to the docks to the south to escape the city,I am near ship,but cant go
Out of the city to end 1st chapter.. Wat happened???
Do I miss something or its BUG?
Thanks..
:) :) :)
ok, is my game bugged or am I just dumb?
What does the grass for the apprentice girl look like?
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The monk said it was around the area w/ the faerie circle. But I can't seem to find it. Everytime I click on anything it just tells me that there's nothing useful there.
I'm on Day 4 BTW
Alusa
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just *walk* into the water, do not go across the pier
Pegasus
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use the hand icon on the fairy ring or slightly in the ring, close to the mushrooms. Worked for me. If you still have problems, ask the monk again (if you load a game, the location may change)
BTW : The spoiler tag is [ h i d e ], without the spaces, see also the help
Thanks,dear,a lot... :) :) :)
Okay, a few random responses...
Not being able to pick up the pigeon is a bug. Sorry about that, I'm working on a v1.2 to fix that. Since this only appears to happen in one room, you have a roughly 25% chance of encountering it. NOTE however that you don't actually need the pigeon to complete the game.
Entering the Crystal Cave from your bedroom is also a bug, but a less critical one. Just restore if it happens to you, there isn't all that much to do in your bedroom anyway.
Yes, you can get the vase out of the castle. No, this won't get you any more points.
I'm not sure how many people have realized this, but if you find the Crystal Cave puzzle annoying, there's three alternative ways of passing it.
Likewise, the apprentice in chapter 8 can be passed in three different ways, two of which require some action on your part earlier in the game.
And likewise, if for whatever reason you don't have the flute in chapter 8, there is still an alternative way.
I have been stuck for three days on the bunny part (when I am the bunny). Th4e lilypad is on the wrong side and I can't cross the bridge because of the beggar. PLEASE HELP!!!
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There's two lilypads.
sthomannch, thanks bunches, it worked! and for the spoiler tag. ;D
Quote from: sthomannch on Mon 30/07/2007 05:58:48
Alusa
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just *walk* into the water, do not go across the pier
Pegasus
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use the hand icon on the fairy ring or slightly in the ring, close to the mushrooms. Worked for me. If you still have problems, ask the monk again (if you load a game, the location may change)
BTW : The spoiler tag is [ h i d e ], without the spaces, see also the help
Hello, everyone. I'm afraid I'm a little stuck and I was hoping one of you could help me. I have the following problem:
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I'm in Chapter 5, and I understand I have to get the comb out of the hole in the ground by pouring water into the hole. Unfortunately, I gave my bottle of cider to the Pookah in Chapter 1! A walkthrough I read suggests I look on the sleeping goblin outside the village to recover my bottle, but when I do that I get the message that the goblin holds nothing of interest. Any way for me to get my bottle back? Alternatively, any way to get the comb out without using the bottle?
Many thanks,
Eva
@eva-:
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When don't you try to give the Pookah something else, to get your bottle back?
@Stump and Hole:
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I tried to look into the stump under the goblin camp and in the hole near the giant with the lantern. Then of course the hero tells me, that it's not lit. So I'm trying to use the matches, but he won't let me do it, because it's broad daylight.
Is there any logic in that?
I also found another bug:
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If the Pookah is gone from the faerie realm and you try to touch that horned rabbit, you still get the monolog of the Pookah, but without picture and background.
Great game, but I just can't get the matche.Did anyone else have this problem?
I started playinjg v1.2 and now I can't seem to find the dark cloth on the window in the room on chapter 1 anymore.
Quote from: Guest on Thu 30/08/2007 19:19:22
Great game, but I just can't get the matche.Did anyone else have this problem?
The shop is at the city square. It's not always open, and you need money.
Quote from: Nostradamus on Thu 30/08/2007 20:25:25
I started playinjg v1.2 and now I can't seem to find the dark cloth on the window in the room on chapter 1 anymore.
That's because it won't be there until chapter 2.
Doh!
yeah I forgot I had to go after the assassin first.... nevermind
The shop that sells matches never opened, but in the Chapter 8 tunnel, Branwyn mysteriously had some. Now I'm stuck at the apprentice. I've already used the snake object from the tower on the monster in the princess' bedroom, and I don't have any holy water. I spoke to the apprentice earlier, and got her the grass, but I can't so far talk my way past her. Am I stuck?
That's not mysterious, that's dead-end prevention :) I'm sure it would have been open earlier in your game.
I'm not sure how you got to the bedroom without dealing with the apprentice first?
Anyway, you're not stuck. Remember you're not alone here.
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Exciting and enjoyable game so far, but I'm stuck. I'm in Chapter 4: I have the rusty sword, apples, and I need to meet the Giant. I thought I had the bag, but I don't have it. Could someone please tell me if it is too late to obtain the bag, and if not, where I can get the bag?
Thank you. :)
WackyWildCard- no, it's not too late
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You'll find the bag south of the village
:)Thanks for the advice, Fizzii, so much!
Got the bag, Adventure-Ho! :D
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What's the deal with the cave in the land of the Fair Folk? The Unseelie just tells me no mortals come out alive, I can't figure out how to get in. If there's no way in, why's it there?
???
(By the way, I won the game!) Hmmmm...interesting point you make.
It is my opinion that the cave is more of a novelty in the game then anything else. However, it would be cool, as a easter egg, if you could enter the cave and get captured by the dark, creepy hands of hundreds of fiends...the hero would yell,"Aiiiiii!" ... THE END.
Neat idea, eh?
Hi,
I'm having trouble finding the mouse for the sidequest. The walkthrough told me what room it was in, but when I went there I didn't see it anywhere. What side of the screen is it on?
Thanks, anyone.
Hi
i'm stucked chapter 8
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in the castle i have to find a door with the self bored stone but i can't find it.
Any clue?
riseryn -
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It's on the right side of the hallway upstairs, the section of blank wall between two doors... where your bedroom was in the beginning
Thanks ;D
but i have to find a way to go there ^^
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Now that I have enough money the jeweler tells me she already sold my girdle. Is this the end or is there another way to get it back?
Also, I found some spells in the tower that look pretty useful but how do I use them? Can I get a wand or something from somewhere? Is there anything important in the tower besides the snake and the spells? (if it is I missed it ...)
And I'm stuck looking for the mirror. I tried to freeze the river with the orb (thought I could use the ice as a mirror) but it says it's not the right time.
Thanks :)
Mr. Mozzarella-
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You won't be able to get the girdle back I'm afraid. Fortunately it's not that important to get a good ending, you just won't get 100% score.
Spells in the tower can't be used - Maeldun is not a magic user after all. Only the snake is important inside the tower, but the books on the Pact give you an idea as to how things work, for the story later on.
Ice isn't actually very reflective :P Water, however, is.
I'm looking for Ashe's love poem...even after looking to the walkthrough, I can't find it. Apparently I should go to the stable in Chapter 5 and Ashe will not be in there, but every time I go, he's inside. Help?
Clefaria-
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It depends on the timing. I believe in chapter 5 you have to find him (with the princess) in the forest first before you can go to the city and find him gone.
Quote from: Fizzii on Tue 04/12/2007 04:22:31
Clefaria-
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It depends on the timing. I believe in chapter 5 you have to find him (with the princess) in the forest first before you can go to the city and find him gone.
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Where in the forest is he?
Clefaria-
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West of the bridge. And this is at the beginning of chapter 5 by the way
Quote from: Fizzii on Tue 04/12/2007 04:34:37
Clefaria-
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West of the bridge. And this is at the beginning of chapter 5 by the way
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I remember meeting the Princess by herself at the beginning of Chapter 5 (not on the screen you described, though), but I never saw the stable boy with her or anything. I managed to free her--what am I missing?
Clefaria -
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Yes, the stableboy was with her in the room to the right of where she was (where the river is, and where the two goblins originally were). You need to go to the stables BEFORE you free Rhiannon in order to get the note. Otherwise, once you free her, they ride off and naturally reach the city before you.
Quote from: Fizzii on Tue 04/12/2007 04:22:31
Clefaria-
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It depends on the timing. I believe in chapter 5 you have to find him (with the princess) in the forest first before you can go to the city and find him gone.
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Actually you don't need to see him in the forest in order for him to be there, but that's one way to find out. You can also go to the city e.g. at the beginning of each chapter and check if he's in his stables.
Quote from: Fizzii on Tue 04/12/2007 07:47:44
Clefaria -
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Yes, the stableboy was with her in the room to the right of where she was (where the river is, and where the two goblins originally were). You need to go to the stables BEFORE you free Rhiannon in order to get the note. Otherwise, once you free her, they ride off and naturally reach the city before you.
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Damnit, the walkthrough said nothing about that :'( Because of that save game issue with overwriting saves without notice, the most recent save I have before Chapter 5 starts is just having gotten the raskovnik... (and doing things in the order the walkthrough says to...) I really don't want to do most of Chapter 4 over again just because of a save bug...
To avoid that, simply open the game folder in your Windows explorer, and rename saved games until they're all numbered sequentially, starting from zero.
For instance, if they're 000, 001, 003, and 004, then obviously the number 002 is left out, so rename 004 to 002 and you're all set.
Quote from: Radiant on Tue 04/12/2007 16:42:51
To avoid that, simply open the game folder in your Windows explorer, and rename saved games until they're all numbered sequentially, starting from zero.
For instance, if they're 000, 001, 003, and 004, then obviously the number 002 is left out, so rename 004 to 002 and you're all set.
That will keep saved games from being overwritten? And why does it put them out of order to begin with?
Is there a limit to the number of saved games?
Quote from: Clefaria on Tue 04/12/2007 17:27:42
Quote from: Radiant on Tue 04/12/2007 16:42:51
To avoid that, simply open the game folder in your Windows explorer, and rename saved games until they're all numbered sequentially, starting from zero.
For instance, if they're 000, 001, 003, and 004, then obviously the number 002 is left out, so rename 004 to 002 and you're all set.
That will keep saved games from being overwritten? And why does it put them out of order to begin with?
Is there a limit to the number of saved games?
Doesn't anyone know? o.o;
Quote from: Clefaria on Tue 04/12/2007 17:27:42
Is there a limit to the number of saved games?
Twenty (000-019) plus one for the autosave. Since the game has no dead ends this has not so far caused serious problems for anyone.
Quote from: Radiant on Sat 08/12/2007 22:01:57
Quote from: Clefaria on Tue 04/12/2007 17:27:42
Is there a limit to the number of saved games?
Twenty (000-019) plus one for the autosave. Since the game has no dead ends this has not so far caused serious problems for anyone.
I wanted to see the best ending, though. :P The walkthrough should make that point clear from before. :/
i need help with escaping. i got out of my room and picked up a bucket of water and the listen to Paladurs and Geraints conversation. I through the water on the torch and now i am on a balcony and i am stuck
what do i do???
Superman Josh -
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Knock the guard out somehow, then climb down the side wall of the gate
okay. i am seriously think i am stuck. i have a snake talisman, the self-bore stone, the ice orb, some acorns but i already gave the druid the squirrel, gave the scarecrow a brain, he let me get a pumpkin, gave the pumpkin to the man on the bridge, don't know why i did that, i have a bag full of sand, some holy water and apples, i have a rune that disrupts fairy magic, cant find the pigeon everyone is talking about, got the lantern but no matches, i have no freaking idea what that stupid conch is for, please help. i am officially stuck, oh and plus i cant get into the city, i haven't even been in yet.
Please help. i am so lost
The two main ways of doing that are
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Using the wishing well to get people to trust you
and
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Using the elixir from the tool shed to grow the vine next to the city wall, and climb over.
i am in chapter four and i have found the entrance but whatever combination i try i cant get all the gems , i have tried giving her wine and the rune and the shell but pooka just drinks the wine and rejects all the others and the rune breaks, i have written every combination down but none of them work, how do i get through???
The easiest way is by
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using the wishing well to make the faeries trust you.
However,
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if you give Pooka the cider or cold iron rune, she should let you pick up all six objects in the first room, after which it should be easy to find all four Gems.
Furthermore,
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the puzzle remains possible without doing any of the above, if you draw up a map.
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At the beginning of the game. How do I not get killed by the assasin? At first I go into the kings room and find him dead, I get killzored once I try to exit quickly. On restarts I can't use either stairs as "he doesn't have a good reason to", when the assasin comes, he kills me before I can escape.
Any suggestions?
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Is there any way you can defend yourself?
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In particular, is there a weapon in the room?
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Pick it up quickly.
Quote from: MonoK on Tue 17/07/2007 16:51:17
Quote from: GradyTn on Tue 17/07/2007 16:41:36
And still stuck on chapter 3. :o
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I think you have to leave the city by swimming without speaking with the princess to go to the next chapter. That is what i've done.
I've tried that, but can't seem to get past guard to jump in harbor - is there a way to get clothes? I tried at the tailor's but couldn't get in.
Quote from: Radiant on Sat 29/12/2007 22:58:24
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Is there any way you can defend yourself?
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In particular, is there a weapon in the room?
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Pick it up quickly.
you can - touch the king's body and you'll get the dagger that killed him.
lyq5 -
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Yes, you need to get into the tailor's shop
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Getting in is the puzzle - can you get something to pick the lock?
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Try the stables
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Quote from: MonoK on Tue 17/07/2007 16:51:17
Quote from: GradyTn on Tue 17/07/2007 16:41:36
And still stuck on chapter 3. :o
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I think you have to leave the city by swimming without speaking with the princess to go to the next chapter. That is what i've done.
I've tried that, but can't seem to get past guard to jump in harbor - is there a way to get clothes? I tried at the tailor's but couldn't get in.
Quote from: Nikkylo on Sat 12/01/2008 00:20:56
I've tried that, but can't seem to get past guard to jump in harbor - is there a way to get clothes? I tried at the tailor's but couldn't get in.
You need something to lift the latch.
Did you look in the stables?
I cannot escape the guard when they put the blame on me of killing the king.After i somehow manage to get out the gyard comes back.what should i do?
This may be a stupid question ... but
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where is the hole i get the comb out of? i tried every pixel on the screen south of the giant's camp and i can't seem to see or even find it
Quote from: Chandrapriyan on Fri 18/01/2008 11:05:14
I cannot escape the guard when they put the blame on me of killing the king.After i somehow manage to get out the gyard comes back.what should i do?
Go with the flow. You can't escape getting blamed. You can, however, escape, find out who the true assassin is, and confront him/her later.
Quote from: Gina on Sat 19/01/2008 01:29:11
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where is the hole i get the comb out of? i tried every pixel on the screen south of the giant's camp and i can't seem to see or even find it
You meant "hide", not "spoiler" :)
It's the black patch in the upper left corner. Note that you can't get it out by hand.
I keep getting killed in the beginning by the guy with the knife. Every time I try to leave he throws it at me what am I doing wrong? Is there some item i'm missing?
Simply put, don't try to leave, try something different.
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like defend yourself?
how can I reveal my indentity in chapter 6 (I wish to people trust me) the guard at the gate just told me that I may pass
Quotehow can I reveal my indentity in chapter 6 (I wish to people trust me) the guard at the gate just told me that I may pass
As in, to prove you're innocent?
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Go the the castle and nag the guard till he lets you in
Could someone please give me a hint regarding how to
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save the apprentice girl from being killed in the tower at the end of the game?
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Do you have something that protects people?
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You did, at least at the beginning of the game...
I'm playing this the second time for the best ending. I can't figure out who it is. Can someone give me a hint please? or send me a message. Ugh...been at this soo long...wisdom -2! ;D
Who what is? You mean who the assassin is?
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Make a list of all major characters in the game.
Think carefully who was in the castle that night.
Cross off everyone who has an alibi, or lacks a motive.
If done properly, there will be one name left.
Yeah, I've been doing that. I narrowed it down to five people the first time I played but its none of them! I did even come up with one name but it wasn't him either. Do I have to give all three pieces of evidence?
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Ok tell me if my point of view is wrong. Geraint and the vagrant gave alibi for two people, so it isn't them. Right? The Tailer has a clue so that narrows it down? That only leaves one person. And it isn't him.
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(1) correct. (2) correct. (3) incorrect.
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You may have missed the fact that more people are in the castle that night than it would at first seem.
Thank ou so much for being so helpful.. However, I haven't figured it out. Could someone give me blunt hint or PM me with the answer? I feel like I'm cheating but this is driving me nuts. I have now tried everybody 3 times, since none of my conclusions were correct. Maybe I wasn't clicking right or whatever, but I give up.
Hi
I am also stuck. Could you escape????
Please help!!
Thanks
Hi
I am stuck. Once I escape the guard, after killing the king...what then. I go down the stairs. Get the bucket of water......but then every room is full of guards...
Help
after the bucket
Warning, blunt hint below! See the post after this for a more vague hint.
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you watch them talk and then throw the bucket into the fire on your left to put the lights out. Don't come out before this or they will see you.
ok maybe the above hint was too blunt. If so, I'm sorry. See below for a more vague hint.
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you need to escape without the guards seeing you. What can you do to make sure they don't see you?
If you want a more blunt hint see the one I posted above.
Ok. Thank you for your help. Everythings great now! ;D
What exactly is
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the hair I can get from the from the door of the king's bedroom
for?
What do you
think a hair is for?
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Whose is it? Does that have any relevance?
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if you ask me what I think ... at first I thought, it is a clue for a dark haired woman to be the murderer (branwyn, niameh, rhiannon) or even a dark haired man (midir). But then Taliesin or someone said that it was rhiannons ... I tried giving it to Ashe who could maybe like it and to the Fairy Queen, but it said "that wold be a pointless way to lose the hair" ... but you're right, maybe I should experiment a bit more ;-)
Yes, that's one possibility. Or,
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the hair could be Rhiannon's, who may have spoken to her father in his private chambers at some point earlier.
Hi All
I finished the game with 56 wisdom, 29 honor, 13/20 cutscenes...It's in chapter 6..I don't understand what should I do with the rainbow, how to get the crystall...I need WT...Could anybody help me?
Well, there's
eight chapters (and different endings) so you've certainly got some parts of the game left to explore :)
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Does a rainbow symbolize anything?
Do you mean Morholt's crystal? He might be willing to trade for it.
However, your more pressing problem is how to get out of Thierna na Oge. Don't you want to clear your name and confront that nasty wizard guy?
I have another problem now.
At the End, I can't defeat the Wizard :'(
I can't seem to figure out what's wrong.
I've cut and crossed and checked and double-checked, and I still can't figure out
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who the assasin was
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Since I'm not particularly observant, this is hardly a surprise. ;D
If someone could please send me the answer, I'd be very grateful.
Quote from: Rain on Tue 25/03/2008 11:21:45
At the End, I can't defeat the Wizard :'(
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Teamwork is the key.
Quote from: Zoe on Tue 22/04/2008 12:23:41
I've cut and crossed and checked and double-checked, and I still can't figure out who the assasin was.
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The answer was not meant to be easy. The way you go about it is this: write down the names of all named and portrait'ed characters on a piece of paper. Then start crossing out everybody who either has an alibi, or lacks a motive. For instance, Morholt is clearly innocent because he'd never fit under that cloak.
Who was in the castle that night? Are you sure there wasn't anybody else there? Who of those was with somebody else? Who wants the king dead? Do you have any objects that provide clues, and if so, who do they belong to?
If done properly, you'll end up with one name.
Thanks Radiant *hug*
A'ight Sherlock, let's get detecting. 8)
My problem is that I cannot find:
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the pigeon. I've looked in the places it supposedly shows up but no luck. Have I missed my chance somehow? I'm still in chapter 4.
Thanks!
No, you haven't missed your chance.
If you're playing a really old version of the game (prior to 1.2, which came out last august) there's a bug that may cause the pigeon to not appear.
Otherwise you're simply not looking hard enough :)
How can I take thing from ravens beak? and for what shall i use the bone? Can you help me?
In chapter 5 I don t know how to defeat the Goblin leader...If I try a sword he kills me, If I try a black stone (onyx) nothing happens....how can I defeat him?
Ok, I really want to continue with all my might, but I'm stuck guessing the assassin and his/her motive.
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I am fairly certain I can name everyone who was in the castle that night, but when it comes to alibis or motives, I can't seem to get it right, and therefore cant deduce who it was. But then, I'm also missing the cloth from early on in the game, and I'm NOT going to replay it all up till here. I have the note and the dagger for evidence, will that be sufficient for the queen to tell me if I got the assassin right? Unfortunately I haven't paid as much attention as I'd like to all the dialogue (I've replayed many parts and started skipping dialogues just so I'd get the sidequests done x.x) Is there a list anywhere of important dialogues and clues that have either eluded me or left my memory? I'd hate to continue and accuse the wrong person x.x
Thanks to any who reply!
Light
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If you want to get rid of the goblins in the small village, you need a disguise. Do you have the comb already in your inventory? You find it in the screen south of the giants camp. Use it on the lake that is a bit north of the village
He's not trying to get into the village, but rather fight with the leader at the end.
Light:
Super vague hint
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You're good at swordfighting, but not that good. You're gonna need something to help.
Push in the right direction
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The 'lesser' way to do can be found in a book in the monastery. The better way is with Fairy magic.
Blatant answer
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If the Dark Sidhe has granted you a boon, you'll have the onyx stone to use on the goblin leader. Otherwise, fill your cloth bag with sand and throw that at the leader.
Hi, I'm stuck after the first night, when I go out of my room the assasin ALLWAYS kills me :( I've tried to go downstairs, but I can't (not even using the other stairs).
HELP PLS!
Don't spend too long in the hallway. (The text that shows up immediately after you leave the room directs you to where to go)
Please can someone just tell me who the assassin is? No hints just the answer?
I'm sure someone has already realized this, but I found out that
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if you never picked up the matches, whether because you completely forgot, or if like me by the time you got to it you couldn't get them because either a)the jeweler was not in her shop to kick you out so the only way out is the water which ruins the matches, or b)the shop was closed; when you get to the cave sequence, Taliesin actually hands Branwyn a pack of matches saying you'll probably need illumination. Not sure about the lantern as I did pick that up.
Quote from: piperhcombs on Wed 17/06/2009 14:14:15
I'm sure someone has already realized this, but I found out that
Well, yes. That way there is no dead end for the casual players, and still a puzzle for the die hards.
I'm really stuck in Chapter 4
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I've gotten the flute and talked to the apprentice about the problem she is having, however Geraint keeps showing up in the town square. I need to go get my sword from the blacksmith but he recognizes me right away. How do I get past him?
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The appearance of the NPC in the town square is random. If you are trying to get past the town square from the docks, just leave the town and come back after a while. Or you can simply try to enter-leave the town square a few times until Geraint is gone (I don't think he spots you immediately after you enter the town square).
Thanks, I actually figured that out soon after I posted and then felt pretty dumb, haha ;D
In chapter 5, where is the boat?
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Somewhere I read that there's a boat that can be used to help the kid in the fairy kingdom.
The shipwreck by the beach in the human realm.
Quote from: Fizzii on Sat 07/11/2015 23:13:41
The shipwreck by the beach in the human realm.
If you're talking about the one the rogue character lives in then I already know about that one. Or is there also another beach with a shipwreck? From what I recall there was a boat in the town docks in the previous chapters but for chapter 5 I don't see it there anymore. Can it be somewhere else and If so Is this the one I am supposed to find for the changeling kid?
QuoteIf you're talking about the one the rogue character lives in then I already know about that one
Yep, that's the one.
The boat in the town docks is just for decoration only
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You may have noticed something a little odd about the rogue. Just need to confirm that he's the changeling's other half / the fae that the changeling was switched with.
Quote from: Fizzii on Mon 09/11/2015 11:10:18
Yep, that's the one.
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You may have noticed something a little odd about the rogue. Just need to confirm that he's the changeling's other half / the fae that the changeling was switched with.
Thanks for that info! Though now I'm rather stuck on what to do next.
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I've tried using the stone with the hole it in on the rogue as well as the changeling's comb and the flute doesn't seem to do anything either. I no longer have the iron charm either so I can't use that on him
I think you can
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go back to the Fae realm and talk to the changeling to tell him you've found his swapped twin?
Quote from: Fizzii on Tue 10/11/2015 20:44:26
I think you can
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go back to the Fae realm and talk to the changeling to tell him you've found his swapped twin?
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unfortunately when I talk to the changeling the only option is "Could you do something for me?" As of yet I have no idea how to show the rogue he's related to the changeling. Also is it possible to do this sidequest after chapter 5 or is it blocked after access to the fairy realm is no longer available?
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Once the faerie realm is no longer accessible, it means you can't go back to talk to Blossom anymore. So the quest is no longer solvable. I assume you've already befriended the rogue? Other than that, I can't recall if there was anything else you needed to do; it has been several years since I played the game.
Thanks for that info.
What all is there to do in the sorcerer's tower?
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You can get the snake figure and smash the orb, but is there anything else? The cabinet and wardrobe look interesting, but I can't get either of them to open.
Regarding Blossom,
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Use the cold iron charm on Ruadh to prove he's faerie-kin, then you can go tell Blossom about that.
Regarding the sorcerer's tower?
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There's also the brain-in-a-jar laying outside; but otherwise that's it. Smashing the crystal ball stops Taranis from harassing you with long-distance curses.
This come back of "hints and tips" on To2K made me want to play it again :) Off I go downloading it!
Hi, i'm currently playing deluxe edition and have problem with defeating Skullcrusher. He just kills me very fast, i have onyx, but it seems to be not of much help
do i miss sth? i thought i have to train with Branwyn first, but she's always saying it's not a time, mb later"
And I also know that i have to get the shield from smith, but he never leaves, so i just can't get it, do i have to start with earlier chapter? cuz i already have tried a hundred times to re-enter the city, but the smith doesn't want to leave his place:(