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Title: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 29/07/2004 19:14:55
Just downloaded this game and it's great. Unfortunately I'm stuck.
How do I get the pencil quill from the highwaywoman. The Foolkiller told me that she doesn't like clowns. Do I need the inflatable clown from the foolkiller's tent? If yes, How do I get it?
Someone please help me.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: luutje on Thu 29/07/2004 20:19:13
i would like to help but i am stuck to
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 02:03:08
you can put the quill pen on the desk and walk away but can't pick it up again w/out signing...
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 03:12:03
Quote from: redisis on Thu 29/07/2004 19:14:55
Just downloaded this game and it's great. Unfortunately I'm stuck.
How do I get the pencil quill from the highwaywoman. The Foolkiller told me that she doesn't like clowns. Do I need the inflatable clown from the foolkiller's tent? If yes, How do I get it?
Someone please help me.

Where did you find the Foolkiller and his tent???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 04:01:19
keep going everywhere and talking to everybody and it'll be added to the map once you've heard about him
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: imspeshul on Fri 30/07/2004 05:37:44
this game is HaRd...how do I put the awning down in the stables???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 05:45:41
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 30/07/2004 05:37:44
this game is HaRd...how do I put the awning down in the stables???

I have no idea.  I thought I could get the ladder from bakery but that did not work.

I am still looking to solve the rats puzzle. 

Any suggestions ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 06:10:03
man I'm still stuck on this crazy quill pen!  I just keep going in circles and resorting to crazy things like trying to use all my inventory items on every hotspot I can find in a given room.  Please help!
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I need to find the monster's lair to get the book but I could only dive that once.

I'm theorizing that the ex-pirate will give me information about the monster when I get him his drink, but I need a writing utensil to make the drink!

I'm completely stuck; no new information anywhere or anything.

I saw a guy's head pop up behind a bush but cannot interact any further with that room. 

I have the coal in my lamp, but I can find no way to light it to start making a golem. 

What should I do next? 

I can't figure out how to continue =(
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RATS:
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make them flee out the door.

you can make them flee by blowing down the appropriate chimney

you can force them out the door by blocking all other routes

you need round flat objects that fit perfectly in two of the vent holes
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AWNING:
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you can't reach it yourself; get somebody else to do it

somebody who can get up that high e.g. a bird
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 06:25:40
I need a pen/pencil, so the centeur can give me an autograph. Where can I get it and how? (I'm guessing the highwaywoman's quill is what I need to get, but how can I keep it?)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 06:37:19
Quote from: guy on Fri 30/07/2004 06:10:03
man I'm still stuck on this crazy quill pen!Ã,  I just keep going in circles and resorting to crazy things like trying to use all my inventory items on every hotspot I can find in a given room.Ã,  Please help!
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I need to find the monster's lair to get the book but I could only dive that once.

I'm theorizing that the ex-pirate will give me information about the monster when I get him his drink, but I need a writing utensil to make the drink!

I'm completely stuck; no new information anywhere or anything.

I saw a guy's head pop up behind a bush but cannot interact any further with that room.Ã, 

I have the coal in my lamp, but I can find no way to light it to start making a golem.Ã, 

What should I do next?Ã, 

I can't figure out how to continue =(
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RATS:
Spoiler
make them flee out the door.

you can make them flee by blowing down the appropriate chimney

you can force them out the door by blocking all other routes

you need round flat objects that fit perfectly in two of the vent holes
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AWNING:
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you can't reach it yourself; get somebody else to do it

somebody who can get up that high e.g. a bird
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Thanks.Ã, 

I have just found how to get the awning down using the bird.

I too saw a blond face behind the bushes near the tent but did not see it again and could not interact with it.

Now you talk about a monster's lair ???Ã,  How did you know about the lair ???Ã,  I have not seen any mention of that so far. :-[

I myself am stuck with the postcard but the Centaur cannot sign because they have no pen ???

As for the rats, Pibs keeps saying he has to find a cat ???
Also I managed to block 1 vent with the gear I borrowed from Jezzebel.
Someone mentioned to get something from the stables/centaur but I can talk to them but cannot get anything :-X

Also you say you got the coal for the lamp.Ã,  Ã,  Where did you get the coal ???

This is what I think:  ANY SUGGESTIONS/HINTS  WILL BE ....GRRREEAATLY .....APPRECIATED :)

I need another gear to block the second vent in bakery ???

I need to get the old lady mad so that she will take out her club ???

At the tent, when I talk to Foolkiller, I can only talk about the old lady..... I know she hates clowns so I'm pretty sure I need the clown from the tent to scare the old lady..... but how do I get the clown ???


I need to give the guard in front of Lorenzo's house a T-shirt to cover his sunburn.........they are giving them away when you enlist ???

When you go to camp......there is the pencil man......could we get a pencil out of him to sign postcard ???   But I don't want to be seen :(

At the far left of screen, there is an island......that Pib says they cannot go to since they lost their horse ???

Someone mentioned he got the coal for his lantern....Where/when did you get it ???

Also on the map, there seem to be a 'forest' (like in the middle of the map) and to the left, under the camp, there seem to be a small house (brown).   Has anyone got to visit these 2 places ???
If you did, when were they accessible ???


Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: imspeshul on Fri 30/07/2004 07:05:33
Once again, More questions....
I cant get the autograph signed- I know I need the pen to get it signed but I cant take it from the highwaywoman and I cant forge the autograph because he doesnt know what it looks like!?!?!?

and the rats- I know what to use for the vent in the middle but what do i use for the other 2...ive tried everything....

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: nickeedoo on Fri 30/07/2004 09:42:59
STOVES:
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you only need to block two of the three holes. Perhaps someone in the stable might be able to stick their hooves in?
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I'm aso stuck on the pen. You can see the clown has something to do with something but I don't  know how to get it. It's an absolutely fantastic game though.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 11:36:12
Hello people

I just downloaded this magnificent game.
But I m stuck (un-original huh?)

*SPOILER BELOW*
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I "looked" at the rod, the pirate ownes. Pib said after that, that "we should take care of the rob we also have at the closet downstairs". I persume that I should take that rod and use it to catch the sea monster, just like the pirate did at the old times. But, how do I access the tower's closet?
When I enter the tower, I immediately go to the second floor. I guess I should somehow use the "laundry chute", so I can access the closet. But how?
Im stuck all the way there.


P.S. Sorry about my bad english.
P.S.2 How do u do that SPOILER thing?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Pesty on Fri 30/07/2004 13:17:17
tErraformEr: do [ hide ] secret! [ /hide ] without the spaces in between.

Like this!
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So, where exactly did you see this fellow's head pop up? Everyone seems to have seen it, but nobody has said where, besides 'behind a bush'. I'm stuck where everyone else is stuck, and I'd just like to know. I probably missed him or something, knowing my luck.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: nickeedoo on Fri 30/07/2004 13:41:15
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The person behind the bushes is behing the bush to the left of the bush that you get the lemon from outside the mansion. You see him once, you never see him again. Well, I haven't yet.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 13:42:43
Quote from: Pesty on Fri 30/07/2004 13:17:17
tErraformEr: do [ hide ] secret! [ /hide ] without the spaces in between.

thanks a lot.

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This hiding guy can be seen behind a bush, when you enter the scene in Lorenzo's mansion (the fish dealer). I saw it once, and its the same guy the designer uses as avatar I thnik.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: ida on Fri 30/07/2004 15:39:09
Can anyone please help me with the stables..

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I released Lloyd from the cage and he flew away. Did I need him to get the awning down in the stables? To reach the peg? As now it looks like he has gone
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 15:41:07
Quote from: ida on Fri 30/07/2004 15:39:09
Can anyone please help me with the stables..

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I released Lloyd from the cage and he flew away. Did I need him to get the awning down in the stables? To reach the peg? As now it looks like he has gone
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Just have a good look around the village and you'll find Lloyd :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: ida on Fri 30/07/2004 15:50:18
Thanks! Found him  :D
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 15:50:43
Has anyone figured out how to keep the quill, or get the magic book from the dragon/sea monster? Please, share.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 15:57:58
Tis quill problem drives me crazy, the only thing what I found out  about it: Wen you have it in your book and look at it, Pib says that it is stolen from the Willowbean government, but that doesn't take me any further
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 16:03:26
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 30/07/2004 05:37:44
this game is HaRd...how do I put the awning down in the stables???

Release the bird from the cage :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 17:49:41
Has anybody figured out how to light the lantern???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 18:21:48
Pen info/spoiler.

Spoiler
So far, the only way I've found of getting the pen is to put it on the desk, and wait for the patrolman to come by and harass her. If you've talked Foolkiller into avenging her already, then he ceases to show up, and it seems impossible to obtain the pen.Ã,  Therefore, it would seem that if you do not obtain the pen before putting the patrolman out of business, then you might not be able to get it at all. I've not found any other way to get the pen, so it could be.
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In other news...

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Need the fire to finish the golem. I assume you get the dragon to light your lantern.

Have to get the curse book from the dragon in order to stop the rain at the racetrack.Ã,  But I can't find the dragon's lair, nor a way to lure the dragon.
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G'luck.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 18:39:16
Ok, I'm very very stuck, and I have no idea what else to do. I've been just walking around for a whole day.

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Ok, I've gotten rid of the rats. That's one thing. Now the races and the golem.

- Ok, for the races, I need to get the Master's book from the dragon. But Pib won't dive anymore. So I have no idea.

- I also need the quill to get the centaur to sign the autograph. But it looks like no one knows how to get it yet, so...

- The golem: I have all the ingredients, except the fire. I have the lantern with the coal, but I have no idea how to light it.

Also, I saw the guy behind the bush too. But he appeared next to Foolkiller for me. I don't know why, maybe it's just random.
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If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 19:29:11
I've got the quill but cannot find anyway to get Lloyd off the mansion fence?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Fri 30/07/2004 20:00:10
I finally solved the quill puzzle but i think most of the people who stuck right now would get mad if they know the truth....  I'd like to give out hints instead of solution.

Here goes:
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The truth is: if you have passed the point where you got the uniform.  You MUST RESTART the game.  There is no way to take the guill after that.

Hints: THe highwaywoman keeps the quill all the time, right?  How about to make that quill visiable?
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Fri 30/07/2004 20:07:57
This game is great.I just finished the game
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 20:31:38
Argh!

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How do I get rid of Ollie? I thought if I gave him the army T-shirt he'd let me through or get forced into the army, but Pib just says he doesn't think he'd want it. What should I do?
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 20:32:50
make sure you know about the guy in the mansion first
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Fri 30/07/2004 20:40:44
Lantarn:
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You have to do something to make the dragon sneeze
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Dragon liar:
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Hint:What does the potion do.Maybe it will help you get to the Dragon liar.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 20:50:11
Quote from: manos on Fri 30/07/2004 19:29:11
I've got the quill but cannot find anyway to get Lloyd off the mansion fence?

Talk to  him (bird) and he"ll help you with the awnings at the stable. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Fri 30/07/2004 21:04:54
Quote from: Maddie on Fri 30/07/2004 18:21:48
Pen info/spoiler.

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So far, the only way I've found of getting the pen is to put it on the desk, and wait for the patrolman to come by and harass her. If you've talked Foolkiller into avenging her already, then he ceases to show up, and it seems impossible to obtain the pen.Ã,  Therefore, it would seem that if you do not obtain the pen before putting the patrolman out of business, then you might not be able to get it at all. I've not found any other way to get the pen, so it could be.
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In other news...

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Need the fire to finish the golem. I assume you get the dragon to light your lantern.

Have to get the curse book from the dragon in order to stop the rain at the racetrack.Ã,  But I can't find the dragon's lair, nor a way to lure the dragon.
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G'luck.

Hmmm... that could be a design flaw. It is our intent that you can never get into an impossibly stuck.

Once you finish the game, be sure to replay it and beat the bonus puzzle. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Fri 30/07/2004 21:21:48
I need hints! (no need any solution, hints will be fine)

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- How to find the sea monster's lair?
- How to get water?  Do I need to go to Oasis Thousands Tear?  If so, how?
- Is there anything do with the clown?  How can I take it?
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Fri 30/07/2004 21:25:33
You never have to go to the Oasis of a Thousand Tears in Apprentice 2. That hotspot on the map was put there as a bit of a joke.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Fri 30/07/2004 21:30:36
That's fine! ;D

But would you please give me a few more hints on my other stuck points?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Fri 30/07/2004 21:40:13
Can you give a hint about the bonus puzzle?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 21:59:01
Aw, damn. So I have to restart? Well, that's not fair. I spent a lot of trying to figure out this damn quill thing...No offense, this is a great game and I love it, but you have to make sure stuff like this can't happen. Oh well, gonna have to restart then...
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Fri 30/07/2004 22:18:58
My sincere apologies to anyone who got stuck by the pen trap. All I can say is to avoid it by taking the advice of these previous posts, but other than that, once I have fixed enough bugs I will upload a new version.

P.S. We beta tested this game.
Title: Bug and plea for help.
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 22:23:14
Well about the quill, there's another bug here :)

Spoiler
You can actually get two quills to exist at the same time. Take one quill and put it on the table, then simply ask for another one. I thought for a while that this might've been a solution to the "dead man walking"-problem, but alas, it wasn't... (Could be turned into one though.  ;) )
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I'm getting quite pissed at this game now, as I replayed it from the beginning to solve the above problem. And when I had finally passed that point, and then some, I managed to get it to lock-up. :/ I haven't been able to reproduce that problem, altough I did encounter the "pocket"-crash.

I would appreciate some help with these problems:
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- WHAT are you supposed to do about the round vents? I know I have to put something round there, but WHAT? :)
- I've seen references to some dragon. Who do I have to talk to, to gain access?
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Anyway, I'll thank you properly when I've finished it. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 22:43:29
does anyone know where there might be a walkthrough

BTW how do you hide what you say
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 22:48:43
Quote from: crazyman on Fri 30/07/2004 20:07:57
This game is great.I just finished the game


Hi Crazyman,

You finished the game :o

Could you please tell me if you got the pen while the armyman was bugging the oldlady or did you manage to get the pen after  ???

I will wait for your answer before restarting the game >:(

Thank you.  Hope you answer soon, I really like this game and would like to finish it but don't feel like starting over if it is not necessary 8)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 22:51:27
@sunshinegold:
I'm afraid you'll have to restart, look below.
Quote from: Geoffkhan on Fri 30/07/2004 22:18:58
My sincere apologies to anyone who got stuck by the pen trap. All I can say is to avoid it by taking the advice of these previous posts, but other than that, once I have fixed enough bugs I will upload a new version.

P.S. We beta tested this game.

(I had to too... :/ )

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@bobbyjoe:
use:

[spoiler]hiddenmessage here.[/spoiler]

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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 22:55:08
Quote from: ggy on Fri 30/07/2004 22:51:27
@sunshinegold:
I'm afraid you'll have to restart, look below.
Quote from: Geoffkhan on Fri 30/07/2004 22:18:58
My sincere apologies to anyone who got stuck by the pen trap. All I can say is to avoid it by taking the advice of these previous posts, but other than that, once I have fixed enough bugs I will upload a new version.

P.S. We beta tested this game.

(I had to too... :/ )

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@bobbyjoe:
use:

[spoiler]hiddenmessage here.[/spoiler]

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Thanks :'(
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 23:01:55
Well, I restarted it, and beat it. And I also found the bonus puzzle, which I loved. It was a great game, restarting it was worth it.

Good job, I can't wait for the next one. Just make sure nothing like the quill thing happensÃ,  ;)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Fri 30/07/2004 23:02:45
Yeah, keep savegames handy. That way you won't have to start from the beginning.

EDIT: But you already know that, right.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 23:10:37
Quote from: Kazzus on Fri 30/07/2004 23:01:55
Well, I restarted it, and beat it. And I also found the bonus puzzle, which I loved. It was a great game, restarting it was worth it.

Good job, I can't wait for the next one. Just make sure nothing like the quill thing happens  ;)

So... Mind giving me a hand? :D

(My questions are at the bottom of page 2...)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 23:14:43
How do you get Lloyd out of the cage?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 30/07/2004 23:48:59
ggy
Spoiler
The round vents: There's something round at the races.

The dragon: Find out more about the curse of the races.
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Bobrea
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To free Lloyd, you'll need something sharp. Borrow it from someone.
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Those were just hints. If you want the solutions, let me know.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: imspeshul on Sat 31/07/2004 01:23:29
FUCK...thats the second time i have to restart it...first by the goddamned pocket bug crash teddy bear thing and now by the pen...i think im getting a nervous breakdown...QVGQEMOPVKMQE  Q QCK
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 06:51:29
How do I get the T-shirt for Ollie?
In the Camp screen I cannot interact with anyone/anything. Pib just goes on and on: "I don't want to be seen".
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 07:36:58
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Could someone please tell me how to get the curse book from the dragon?Ã,  I believe I have to open the valve but cant seem to do it.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Nelinas on Sat 31/07/2004 07:58:59
Quote from: Yvonne on Sat 31/07/2004 06:51:29
How do I get the T-shirt for Ollie?
In the Camp screen I cannot interact with anyone/anything. Pib just goes on and on: "I don't want to be seen".
Had the same problem. Do you know how to use items on Pib? He has an item with which he can be seen, but not recognised.
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Uniform, that is. Use it on Pib. (Left double-click on item in inventory.) Readme files ARE to be read.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: splat44 on Sat 31/07/2004 08:19:17
Hi Nelina,

I've left double click on uniform and Pib say he doesn't have.

I'm still trying figure pocket game.
To those who solved that, what is the exact pattern?
I getting sick when that area is crashing!

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 08:39:32
Quote from: splat44 on Sat 31/07/2004 08:19:17
Hi Nelina,

I've left double click on uniform and Pib say he doesn't have.

I'm still trying figure pocket game.
To those who solved that, what is the exact pattern?
I getting sick when that area is crashing!


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In inventory, over the uniform, select the verb "use". Then click twice ON the uniform with the left button.
Pocket game pattern: Try adding 2 to the first pocket number that Navy Joe points out. If the Ist pocket number is 9, then try 2 as an answer. I am not completely sure, but that's how I managed. I did not have a first number "nine", though.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 09:20:43
I need help. How can you dive again after the first time and where can I find a book for the sea-monster?

How do I get the clown from Foolkiller's tent?

How can I light the lantern with coals?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Sat 31/07/2004 09:27:19
@sunshinegold
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I don't think there is another way to ask the pen
than use it on the desk leave.Then wait until the army guy is there,and pick up the pen that was on the desk
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Sorry it took so long
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: splat44 on Sat 31/07/2004 09:27:53
Quote from: Nelinas Lazy on Sat 31/07/2004 08:39:32
Quote from: splat44 on Sat 31/07/2004 08:19:17
Hi Nelina,

I've left double click on uniform and Pib say he doesn't have.

I'm still trying figure pocket game.
To those who solved that, what is the exact pattern?
I getting sick when that area is crashing!


Spoiler
In inventory, over the uniform, select the verb "use". Then click twice ON the uniform with the left button.
Pocket game pattern: Try adding 2 to the first pocket number that Navy Joe points out. If the Ist pocket number is 9, then try 2 as an answer. I am not completely sure, but that's how I managed. I did not have a first number "nine", though.
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Hi Nelinas,

Thank You that solved it.

Phil
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Sat 31/07/2004 09:30:18
Dragonlair:
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Just get the grog ready give it to the pirate. Then go outside near the diving gear and drink the potion
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Lantarn:
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If you are with the dragon use the quill on the dragon and then directly after use the lantarn with coal on the dragon
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Sat 31/07/2004 09:38:37
Cursebook:
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To get the curse book try to open the valve and reason with the dragon  until all options are used.After you get the right question.The dragon will give it you.Just keep trying.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: crazyman on Sat 31/07/2004 09:40:21
Could you give a hint about the bonus puzzle,i can't find it
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: splat44 on Sat 31/07/2004 13:34:52
Hi,

I believe I got t-shirt from camp and I know that should go to guard at mansion. But I just cannot give!

I know who is in this mansion.

What should I do!

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 14:08:30
Have actually talked with Ollie (the guard)? Maybe you can't give away unless Pib has been told he want something to protect the sunburn?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Sat 31/07/2004 17:23:51
I'd like to confirm if I have solved the bonus puzzle...

Is the bonus puzzle regarding the official screenshot?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 18:35:15
Stuck again...
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Ive gotten the curse lifted but no one in the game i talk to can give me a hint as to who is going to win the race.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Sat 31/07/2004 18:38:15
Quote from: manos on Sat 31/07/2004 18:35:15
Stuck again...
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Ive gotten the curse lifted but no one in the game i talk to can give me a hint as to who is going to win the race.
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Did Seacookie mention why he couldn't win?  Do you notice his number?  May be something can help to solve it...

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Check your room and look for something that help for luck
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 19:13:54
 ???i need help with the rats PLEASE!!!!!



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I have gotten the awning down, i have the gear in one of the vents at the bakery, but there is nothing else i can do at the races to get one of the centuars to put his hoof (or something???) in the round vents. I also got the autograph already. What the heck am i supposed to do!!????
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 19:15:48
Quote from: Artphreak555 on Sat 31/07/2004 19:13:54
???i need help with the rats PLEASE!!!!!



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I have gotten the awning down, i have the gear in one of the vents at the bakery, but there is nothing else i can do at the races to get one of the centuars to put his hoof (or something???) in the round vents. I also got the autograph already. What the heck am i supposed to do!!????
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Spoiler
Look at Seacookie's left hoof for your answer.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: big brother on Sat 31/07/2004 19:30:59
For your information,

there's no need to restart over the quill thing. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get the uniform or even meet the foolkiller if you haven't already taken the quill pen. If anyone has found otherwise, please let me know.

The bonus puzzle does not involve the wig room cutscene that occurs from the recruitment camp room. That was just an extra scene (which was kind of funny, but we probably should have left it out). 
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 19:35:49
I found it right after i wrote that...but thankyou, perhaps you can help me with something else though:

Spoiler
I do not know how to help the pencil maker in the stocks, i have the uniform-i assume i need to help him to get the charcoal he has. Also, how do i find out about the seamonsters lair-do i need to lift the race track curse first??
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 19:35:53
If you're using the first available version of App2, then you CAN get the uniform without getting the quill.  I for one did so  ::) and hence had to restart.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Sat 31/07/2004 19:37:00
So any hint on the bonus puzzle?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Nelinas on Sat 31/07/2004 20:10:36
Quote from: big brother on Sat 31/07/2004 19:30:59
For your information,

there's no need to restart over the quill thing. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get the uniform or even meet the foolkiller if you haven't already taken the quill pen. If anyone has found otherwise, please let me know.
...
Oh, yes, I did have the uniform and no quill.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 20:32:50
The same here. Isn't there a way to get the quill pen before meeting the foolkiller and getting the uniform?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Sat 31/07/2004 21:02:58
Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 20:32:50
The same here. Isn't there a way to get the quill pen before meeting the foolkiller and getting the uniform?
Yep, that one is a "point of no return" before a revised version, which is promised by geoffkhan, comes out.
  So you have to get the quill before that.

Spoiler
The highwaywoman is keeping the quill with her, right?  How about find a way to make the quill visible?
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 21:12:54
OK, forget my other messages, i am almost DONE!!! YEAH! But now i need help with one more thing:

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i have made the gollum, lifted the curse, gotten rid of the rats, i just need to figure out who to bet on, how can i figure out the sure thing???!
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Also, here is a complete spoiler for all of you stuck with the quill:

Spoiler
ask to sign petition again, with pen in inventory use it with the desk so it is visible, then when highwaywoman is distracted by the soldier take the pen from the desk.--if you already talked to foolkiller you will have to restart!!!!
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 22:07:09
Nevermind again, I JUST FINISHED THE GAME!!! yipee! Awesome game guys!!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 22:14:51
I've restarted playing 'cause of the quill problem and now I'm stuck again but at the t-shirt puzzle. Before restarting i'd success in giving the shirt now pibs doesn't want to give it.... why??? it's another stuck bug??? help please I'd like not to restart again
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 22:20:12
Quote from: AgsFanatic on Sat 31/07/2004 22:14:51
I've restarted playing 'cause of the quill problem and now I'm stuck again but at the t-shirt puzzle. Before restarting i'd success in giving the shirt now pibs doesn't want to give it.... why??? it's another stuck bug??? help please I'd like not to restart again


Have you exhausted all conversation with the gaurd? Pib has to know that the guard wants a shirt before he will give it to him.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 22:21:46
I've made the conversation fast so i didn't follow it like the first time but now i cannot speak anymore with the swordman so i suppose i'd to know the sun problem.... ARG
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Sat 31/07/2004 22:34:37
Quote from: Airborne on Sat 31/07/2004 21:02:58
Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 20:32:50
The same here. Isn't there a way to get the quill pen before meeting the foolkiller and getting the uniform?
Yep, that one is a "point of no return" before a revised version, which is promised by geoffkhan, comes out.
Ã,  So you have to get the quill before that.

Spoiler
The highwaywoman is keeping the quill with her, right?Ã,  How about find a way to make the quill visible?
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Well, it looks like there's enough bugs -- I mean, not MANY, but that quill thing is quite annoying.

Also, about the crashes in the Navy Joe pocket game: I can't figure out what's wrong. I've played it over and over and I can't get it to crash. Maybe it's something to do with computer speed or something. :(
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 22:41:04
A question.

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How on earth you gert that sea water? I interact with the barels that contain sea water at the dock site, but notthing comes out of it... what should I do?
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Sat 31/07/2004 22:43:41
Have you looked inside that pirate ship place?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 23:12:38
where is the rum and postcard ?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 31/07/2004 23:24:39
 ;D

Finally I completed the game.... GREAT WORK GUYS!!!

There are some point to adjust and some small bugs but I hope you'll release a final review because this game needs to be 100% perfect since it's a masterpiece =)


Hope to see soon the III chapter and to find the secret puzzle.... damn
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 01:45:32
Any word yet on the secret?  :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 01:52:10
Is the secret puzzle the getting a present for Jezelle one? If so, I did it!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 04:41:23
Hmm... it looks like I need a postcard and you get it pretty early in the game. I have searched high and low. I've already finished the rat puzzle, gotten the quill pen, freed the pencil maker, and dove for the first time. I think I may have missed it somewhere? Because for the life of me I cannot find a postcard.

Nor can I find the "reading material" that I need to use to bait the dragon (err sea monster)

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 05:19:43
Quote from: Bryce on Sun 01/08/2004 04:41:23
Hmm... it looks like I need a postcard and you get it pretty early in the game. I have searched high and low. I've already finished the rat puzzle, gotten the quill pen, freed the pencil maker, and dove for the first time. I think I may have missed it somewhere? Because for the life of me I cannot find a postcard.

Nor can I find the "reading material" that I need to use to bait the dragon (err sea monster)

Thanks in advance.



I believe you get the postcard when you ask NavyJoe about the rum :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 06:03:34
Hmm... I must have missed something then, because I don't think I ever triggered that conversation with him and I have spoken to him about everything (and also beat his little game).

Any advice?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Sun 01/08/2004 08:29:10
Have you start making the grog?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 08:36:57
Quote from: Monkeyman1138 on Sun 01/08/2004 01:52:10
Is the secret puzzle the getting a present for Jezelle one? If so, I did it!

I did that too. But that is way too small a thing - and not difficult at all - in order to be the bonus puzzle.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Trapezoid on Sun 01/08/2004 09:28:15
I got screwed by the quill thing too... But I can't figure out how to get past it anyway. I can't talk to the highwaywoman while she's distracted by the guard!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Airborne on Sun 01/08/2004 09:54:05
Quote from: Trapezoid on Sun 01/08/2004 09:28:15
I got screwed by the quill thing too... But I can't figure out how to get past it anyway. I can't talk to the highwaywoman while she's distracted by the guard!
Yep!  That's the key, try to  setup something before she is distracted.  She won't be distracted all the time leave and return again and eventually she will alone.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 10:00:29
Someone knows how to get the secret/bonus puzzle?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 10:28:51
Quote from: AgsFanatic on Sun 01/08/2004 10:00:29
Someone knows how to get the secret/bonus puzzle?
There is reference to it above in this thread. you'll be able to interact with something that earlier in the game it was impossible.
The lump of clay "smells kind of funny". Pib has to use "purest elements possible". There is mud on the track.
So - is it possible to get mud and use it for the golem instead of the not so pure clay?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: nickeedoo on Sun 01/08/2004 12:57:20
I can't seem to make the golem. I've put all the ingredients in the cauldren but nothing happens. I know there are other instructions but the last half is in latin apparently.... Bugger.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mephistophilis on Sun 01/08/2004 13:04:54
The last half is in Latin because it's an incantation. You just use the scroll on the cauldron.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 14:54:12
Quote from: Airborne on Sun 01/08/2004 09:54:05
Quote from: Trapezoid on Sun 01/08/2004 09:28:15
I got screwed by the quill thing too... But I can't figure out how to get past it anyway. I can't talk to the highwaywoman while she's distracted by the guard!
Yep!Ã,  That's the key, try toÃ,  setup something before she is distracted.Ã,  She won't be distracted all the time leave and return again and eventually she will alone.

The set up part is right but I did manage to get the quill even when she was still distracted by the armyman. :)  I did not have to wait for her to be alone. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 15:16:18
No. I haven't started that yet. That's a drink, right? for tyhe pirate? i probably need to find how to trigger that.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 15:21:03
Quote from: bryce on Sun 01/08/2004 15:16:18
No. I haven't started that yet. That's a drink, right? for tyhe pirate? i probably need to find how to trigger that.

Talk to pirate.  Try to get his potion.  Try to get his bottles.  Look at those before talking to him. Then he will mention the grog.  Ask him how to make it. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 15:57:43
Quote from: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 14:54:12
Quote from: Airborne on Sun 01/08/2004 09:54:05
Quote from: Trapezoid on Sun 01/08/2004 09:28:15
I got screwed by the quill thing too... But I can't figure out how to get past it anyway. I can't talk to the highwaywoman while she's distracted by the guard!
Yep!Ã,  That's the key, try toÃ,  setup something before she is distracted.Ã,  She won't be distracted all the time leave and return again and eventually she will alone.

The set up part is right but I did manage to get the quill even when she was still distracted by the armyman. :)Ã,  I did not have to wait for her to be alone. :)
You can NEVER get the quill while she is alone.
You can only get it while the soldier or whoever is there and they quarrel.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 17:19:46
I completed the game but this might help you regarding the quill problem.

I noticed that as long as you have NOT talked to the Foolkiller and asked him to get rid of the annoying soldier, the soldier will leave and then return several times to hassle the highwaywoman.  Thus, there are otehr opportunities to ask her for the quill and set it on the desk during those moments when the soldier is not there.  Then you can keep entering and leaving the scene until you see them arguing again so you can steal the quill with no problem.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 17:45:30
Quote from: AgsFanatic on Sat 31/07/2004 23:24:39
;D

Finally I completed the game.... GREAT WORK GUYS!!!

There are some point to adjust and some small bugs but I hope you'll release a final review because this game needs to be 100% perfect since it's a masterpiece =)


Hope to see soon the III chapter and to find the secret puzzle.... damn

To all of you lucky people who have completed the game, could you please tell me:

How to get the small gear to give the girl at the pier ???
How do you get the milk to give to Centaur ???
How did you get the small centaur to help you at bakery ???
How can you get the flag at the track ???
How did you manage to dive ???
Do we need the club from the old lady (maybe to get the flag) ???

I managed to free the pencil man :)
Got the story about the book in the water :)
Got the potion :)

But I still cannot do anything at the bakery :'(
nor at the track :'(
I got to speak to Lorenzo, but cannot get into the house :'(
I gave back the gear and the pinchers to the girl hoping to get the diving gear.
I also thought that I could use the uniform to get into the chute at home but it did not work.

I am going around in circles.

PLEASE HELP :'(
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 18:46:11
So far I've gotten through the game without any problems (except for the quill thing, but that's kind of a given).Ã,  The one thing that's got me stuck right now, though, is trying to win the centaur race.Ã,  I've gotten the curse lifted any everything, but still haven't figured out who wins the race.

I've heard you need a lucky item, and I'm pretty sure I've found it at the castle, but I have no idea how you can get it/use it to make the centaur lucky.Ã,  If anyone can give me some hints on this, I'd be real cool.Ã,  Thanks.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 18:54:10
Quote from: wisewhiz on Sun 01/08/2004 18:46:11
So far I've gotten through the game without any problems (except for the quill thing, but that's kind of a given).Ã,  The one thing that's got me stuck right now, though, is trying to win the centaur race.Ã,  I've gotten the curse lifted any everything, but still haven't figured out who wins the race.

I've heard you need a lucky item, and I'm pretty sure I've found it at the castle, but I have no idea how you can get it/use it to make the centaur lucky.Ã,  If anyone can give me some hints on this, I'd be real cool.Ã,  Thanks.

You seem to have gotten quite far in the game, so maybe you could ANSWER/HELP others by answering some of our 'cry for help'.

IT WOULD BE NICE AND APPRECIATED. :-\
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 19:12:05
Heh, sorry.  I'm kind of new to these boards and haven't had a chance to answer any questions before they've been answered by others.  And I've been kind of busy trying to beat this game  :) .  But I'll try to answer questions that I see.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 19:20:58
wisewhiz,
[help] Use the object from your bedroom that makes you feel lucky on Seacookie.  Then go back to ticket man and place a bet with your coins. [/help]

sunshinegold,
You have a "buttload" of questions!  I think you should work on the rats!
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Did you get the bucket off of Seacookies foot?  Something  fell off the bucket that you can use to plug one of the vents on the stoves at the bakery.  Work at opening the stove doors and letting rats run into the stove on the right.  Plug up the vents on two or the stoves with objects in your inventory.  Then go up on the roof and work with the stove pipes that are there.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 19:21:52
Quote from: wisewhiz on Sun 01/08/2004 19:12:05
Heh, sorry.Ã,  I'm kind of new to these boards and haven't had a chance to answer any questions before they've been answered by others.Ã,  And I've been kind of busy trying to beat this gameÃ,  :) .Ã,  But I'll try to answer questions that I see.

Thank you, it will be appreciated.

As you can see, if you take a look at all the questions on this forum, there are lots that have not been answered, and sometimes 1 hint can help us get much further in the game.

SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY POST and I HOPE I DID NOT SOUND TOO HARSH :-[
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 19:24:25
Quote from: cittymom on Sun 01/08/2004 19:20:58
wisewhiz,
[help] Use the object from your bedroom that makes you feel lucky on Seacookie.Ã,  Then go back to ticket man and place a bet with your coins. [/help]

sunshinegold,
You have a "buttload" of questions!Ã,  I think you should work on the rats!
Spoiler
Did you get the bucket off of Seacookies foot?Ã,  SomethingÃ,  fell off the bucket that you can use to plug one of the vents on the stoves at the bakery.Ã,  Work at opening the stove doors and letting rats run into the stove on the right.Ã,  Plug up the vents on two or the stoves with objects in your inventory.Ã,  Then go up on the roof and work with the stove pipes that are there.
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I did manage to get the bucket off of Seacookies foot a long time ago, but my arrow never changes color when I pass it on the ground or on Seacookies. :'(
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Zaerth on Sun 01/08/2004 19:27:51
OK, nevermind.  Heheheh, I fell for a red herring.  I was thinking the mailbox was the key (since he said it had it's lucky number).  It's not, by the way, just to give a little hint to others.  ;D
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 19:57:41
Quote from: cittymom on Sun 01/08/2004 19:20:58
wisewhiz,
[help] Use the object from your bedroom that makes you feel lucky on Seacookie.Ã,  Then go back to ticket man and place a bet with your coins. [/help]

sunshinegold,
You have a "buttload" of questions!Ã,  I think you should work on the rats!
Spoiler
Did you get the bucket off of Seacookies foot?Ã,  SomethingÃ,  fell off the bucket that you can use to plug one of the vents on the stoves at the bakery.Ã,  Work at opening the stove doors and letting rats run into the stove on the right.Ã,  Plug up the vents on two or the stoves with objects in your inventory.Ã,  Then go up on the roof and work with the stove pipes that are there.
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Thank you Cittymom :)

I tried so often but never got anything from the bucket, it just changed automatically to 'TALK TO SEACOOKIES'. 

Now I got that part from bucket and got rid of the rats ::)

I went back to track, gave lucky picture to Seacookies, tried to give coins to ticketman, but he says that I won't find any centaur to race. ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 20:09:19
sunshinegold,
Spoiler
I tried so many different things, that it is hard to remember the order I played.  But,  I believe you need to have conversations with the guy at the mansion or the master wizard about the curse before you can do the betting.   Have you talked to the guy at the gate about his sunburn and him needing the t-shirt? And then have you gotten the t-shirt from the camp?  Hang on to the "pinchers' because you will need them again at the camp.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 20:18:46
Quote from: cittymom on Sun 01/08/2004 20:09:19
sunshinegold,
Spoiler
I tried so many different things, that it is hard to remember the order I played.Ã,  But,Ã,  I believe you need to have conversations with the guy at the mansion or the master wizard about the curse before you can do the betting.Ã,  Ã, Have you talked to the guy at the gate about his sunburn and him needing the t-shirt? And then have you gotten the t-shirt from the camp?Ã,  Hang on to the "pinchers' because you will need them again at the camp.
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Yes I did speak to the guard and gave him the t=shirt :)

I have already freed the pencil man at the camp.  DO I STILL NEED THE PINCHERS AT THE CAMP ???

The master wizzard and the pirate BOTH told me their stories about the book falling in the water :D

I thought that small piece from the bucket could also be useful to Jezzelle but she's not interested.  I tried to use it with the pirate for him to maybe make it smaller but no can do :'(

I also got the water from the fishbowl but I wish I could get into the mansion. :(
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 20:27:04
Quote from: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 20:50:11
Quote from: manos on Fri 30/07/2004 19:29:11
I've got the quill but cannot find anyway to get Lloyd off the mansion fence?

Talk toÃ,  him (bird) and he"ll help you with the awnings at the stable. :)

I've tried that, but that doesn't seem to be a talking option.  Any idea on how to change that?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Sun 01/08/2004 20:30:23
Quote from: Any Non-Mouse on Sun 01/08/2004 20:27:04
Quote from: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 20:50:11
Quote from: manos on Fri 30/07/2004 19:29:11
I've got the quill but cannot find anyway to get Lloyd off the mansion fence?

Talk toÃ,  him (bird) and he"ll help you with the awnings at the stable. :)

I've tried that, but that doesn't seem to be a talking option.Ã,  Any idea on how to change that?

Well that's how I got him to help me.  He's on the gate, look at him, talk to him about everything.  I'm not sure but you might have to talk to him a few times, until you see 'I need a favour from you' or something like that. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 20:30:25
sunshine,
Spoiler
  ok, missed that you already have released the pencil maker.  At somepoint the rain will have stopped and then you can do the betting.  When you put your uniform on at the camp, did a small round "spur" piece fall off?   This is what you need to put on diving rig.  Then you use the potion on yourself somewhere near the rig.  This is where the "trojan horse" scene will happen.  Then after this scene, you can talk to Jazelle about taking a test dive. I think you "use" on the diving suit to make this happen.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 20:35:29
Quote from: Any Non-Mouse on Sun 01/08/2004 20:27:04
Quote from: sunshinegold on Fri 30/07/2004 20:50:11
Quote from: manos on Fri 30/07/2004 19:29:11
I've got the quill but cannot find anyway to get Lloyd off the mansion fence?

Talk to  him (bird) and he"ll help you with the awnings at the stable. :)

I've tried that, but that doesn't seem to be a talking option.  Any idea on how to change that?

Have you gone to the racetrack and looked at the pegs and tried to get them first?.... then go back and try to talk to Lloyd
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 22:18:31
Ok, I've seen the sea monster.Ã,  But where are the dragon and the valve?Ã,  Also, when I give the postcard to Seacookie, he says that he can't sign a postcard of another centaur.Ã,  I suppose this works itself out after the rain stops.Ã,  But I can't get the rain to stop until I find where the sea monster went with the curse book.

Thanks.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 22:42:58
el_kabong,
Spoiler
  Have you tried getting one of the other centaurs to sign the postcard?   It  sounds like you are ready to put on the diving suit for a dive if Jazelle says everything works now.    When you are in the "room" with the dragon,  there will be something to move to reveal the valve.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 01/08/2004 22:57:54
Spoiler
I realized once I had the awning down, that the fans left and the centaur would sign my postcard.Ã,  So now I can get the rum, make the grog and get to the dragon lair.Ã,  Thanks.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 00:12:57
As i said earlier i finished the game but i am trying to find the "secret puzzle". I have read earlier posts and no one has yet to actually give any hints regarding this, only questions such as mine, so can someone help me and the others PLEASE??? ???Also, someone mentioned a gift for the pirate girl, what is it?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 00:47:45
Quote from: Artphreak555 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:12:57
As i said earlier i finished the game but i am trying to find the "secret puzzle". I have read earlier posts and no one has yet to actually give any hints regarding this, only questions such as mine, so can someone help me and the others PLEASE??? ???Also, someone mentioned a gift for the pirate girl, what is it?

The gift for the pirate girl is involved in the bonus puzzle.  First, try to find something romantic to give to her.  You may have already tried to pick this up at the start of the game, but the game wouldn't let you because Pib didn't have a good reason to...now he does.  I hope that's not too cryptic for everyone.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 00:54:50
Quote

Yes I did speak to the guard and gave him the t=shirt :)

I have already freed the pencil man at the camp.Ã,  DO I STILL NEED THE PINCHERS AT THE CAMP ???

The master wizzard and the pirate BOTH told me their stories about the book falling in the water :D

I thought that small piece from the bucket could also be useful to Jezzelle but she's not interested.Ã,  I tried to use it with the pirate for him to maybe make it smaller but no can do :'(

I also got the water from the fishbowl but I wish I could get into the mansion. :(
Quote

to answer some of your questions (which may have already been answered by others - so I'm sorry if this is duplicated)....Also, I'm not sure how to hide my clues so I'm sorry if this ruins the game for some people.

There are two things wrong with the diving machine - it needs a new gear (NOT the piece from the bucket - you need to find something else) and the lever is stuck.  If you talk to Jenelle she will usually let you know what she is missing to get the machine functioning properly.  The pinchers and the other gear you took earlier also need to be replaced as well before you can dive.

I  don't think it's possible to get into the mansion.  I completed the game and found the bonus puzzle without having to enter the mansion at all.

I hope that helps.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Me on Mon 02/08/2004 00:55:31
This is a walkthrough for those of you who can't solve the game.


Rat puzzle:
Spoiler
Go the the docks and get the gear from the diving rig. Then, go to the bakery and stick the gear into the middle vent.  Take the butter and enter the stables in the racing track. Use it on the bucket on Seacookie's leg. Then, find the bucket part on his left leg and take it. Go back to the bakery and use it on one of the vents. Make sure it isn't the stove with the rats.  Use the stove with the rats and watch them leave the bakery.
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Ok, the next one is wrong.  I may have left something out or told you to do something in the wrong order, but this is a really complicated game. I hope you find what you need to advance into the game.

Racing track puzzle
Spoiler
Make sure you have the butter you got from the bakery and the mollassas. Enter the docks and go into the shipwreck. Try taking the potion on the shelves. William refuses so you have to talk to him and ask him about it. Finally, he'll tell you that he wants grog. Take the seawater next to him. Exit his place and take the pinchers off of the diving rig. Make sure that you replaced the gear if you took it.

Go to town and talk to the highway women. Exhaust all topics and ask to sign the petition again. Put the quill on her desk. Talk to Ollie and exhaust all topics. Go to the right of the bakery and free the bird with the pinchers. Make sure you use it on the cage, not on the bird. Go to the stables and look at the pegs. Go back into town and talk to the bird, which is next to Ollie. Ask the bird for a favor and it'll take down the awning in the stables for you.

Go to the castle place and watch the cutscene. Go back to town and keep exiting and entering untill you see the highway women arguing with the soldier. Take the quill from her desk. Find navy joe and talk to him. Play his game.

Remember that the first pocket he points to is the clue. Add 2 to the pocket number. If it is 8, the bear is in 1. If it is 9, the bear is in 2, etc.

Also ask him about the rum. He will give you a postcard to sign. Go to the stables and give it to the big centaurs to sign. Go back into town and give it to Navy Joe. Talk to the highwaywomen and ask her about the soldier that was arguing with her. She will tell you about Foolkiller. Enter the tent and talk to Foolkiller. Mention the highwaywomen and tell him that shes not fine (or something like that).  Exit the tent and reenter it. Take the uniform.

Enter the castle thingy and double left click on the uniform in your inventory.  Take a tshirt from the box and free the man in the stocks with the pinchers. You will be taken into town and the man will give you charcoal. Take the lanturn on the road and use the coal on the lantern. (Thats actually for the golem puzzle, but whatever.)

Go to town and give Ollie the shirt. Enter and get a lemon from a bush. Have a long conversation with the guy. Exhaust all topics. Use the tin cup on the fishbowl and use the lemon you acquired onto the mollassass seawater. Use navy joe's rum onto the seawater. YOu should have grog now. Go to the docks and give it to William. Take the potion. Go to the tower and talk to Master about the curse thingy. He should mention a cursebook. Go back to the docks and ask William about it.

Exit his place and use the butter onto the lever. Also use the gear, extra uniform part onto the diving rig. The thing should be fixed now and listen as the girl says something about a test dive. Talk to her and volunteer for it. Watch the cutscene with the dragon. When you wake up, ask the girl about the dragon. Use the potion now and you should wake up in a weird place. Talk to the things and find yourself in the well. Talk to the dragon and  use the bookcase. Use the vent and eventually you'll get it. Take the curse book and go to the tower.

Enter and take the blue cup picture. Open the nightstand and take the coppers. Go to the track. Yay, the rain stopped! Enter the stable and give Seacookie the picture. Go back outside and give the guy the coppers. Sea cookie wins! Yay. Go back to the tower and give Master the mountain of silvers.
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Golem puzzle
Spoiler
See above hint for how to get to the dragon's lair (the well). To get the clay, go to town and get the clay under the bird's cage. Get the lantern laying on the road. Rescue the pencil man (again see above) and use the coal he gave you onto the lantern. Enter the well and use the quill on the book wyrm. When he breaths fire, use the lantern onto the fire. You also need to get the bellow thingy, but I forgot where that is, sorry.

Go to your tower and use the clay into the cauldron. After that, use the lantern on it. Watch the small animation and add the water. Use the bellow thingy on the cauldron and use the golem scroll on the cauldron.
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Hope you found this "walkthrough" helpful.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Mon 02/08/2004 03:14:58
Quote from: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:47:45
Quote from: Artphreak555 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:12:57
As i said earlier i finished the game but i am trying to find the "secret puzzle". I have read earlier posts and no one has yet to actually give any hints regarding this, only questions such as mine, so can someone help me and the others PLEASE??? ???Also, someone mentioned a gift for the pirate girl, what is it?

The gift for the pirate girl is involved in the bonus puzzle.Ã,  First, try to find something romantic to give to her.Ã,  You may have already tried to pick this up at the start of the game, but the game wouldn't let you because Pib didn't have a good reason to...now he does.Ã,  I hope that's not too cryptic for everyone.

Well I finally finished this wonderful game.   :)

Are you sure about the bonus puzzle ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Mon 02/08/2004 03:37:48
He's sure. :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: splat44 on Mon 02/08/2004 03:41:27
Quote from: Me on Mon 02/08/2004 00:55:31
This is a walkthrough for those of you who can't solve the game.


Rat puzzle:
Spoiler
Go the the docks and get the gear from the diving rig. Then, go to the bakery and stick the gear into the middle vent.Ã,  Take the butter and enter the stables in the racing track. Use it on the bucket on Seacookie's leg. Then, find the bucket part on his left leg and take it. Go back to the bakery and use it on one of the vents. Make sure it isn't the stove with the rats.Ã,  Use the stove with the rats and watch them leave the bakery.
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Ok, the next one is wrong.Ã,  I may have left something out or told you to do something in the wrong order, but this is a really complicated game. I hope you find what you need to advance into the game.

Racing track puzzle
Spoiler
Make sure you have the butter you got from the bakery and the mollassas. Enter the docks and go into the shipwreck. Try taking the potion on the shelves. William refuses so you have to talk to him and ask him about it. Finally, he'll tell you that he wants grog. Take the seawater next to him. Exit his place and take the pinchers off of the diving rig. Make sure that you replaced the gear if you took it.

Go to town and talk to the highway women. Exhaust all topics and ask to sign the petition again. Put the quill on her desk. Talk to Ollie and exhaust all topics. Go to the right of the bakery and free the bird with the pinchers. Make sure you use it on the cage, not on the bird. Go to the stables and look at the pegs. Go back into town and talk to the bird, which is next to Ollie. Ask the bird for a favor and it'll take down the awning in the stables for you.

Go to the castle place and watch the cutscene. Go back to town and keep exiting and entering untill you see the highway women arguing with the soldier. Take the quill from her desk. Find navy joe and talk to him. Play his game.

Remember that the first pocket he points to is the clue. Add 2 to the pocket number. If it is 8, the bear is in 1. If it is 9, the bear is in 2, etc.

Also ask him about the rum. He will give you a postcard to sign. Go to the stables and give it to the big centaurs to sign. Go back into town and give it to Navy Joe. Talk to the highwaywomen and ask her about the soldier that was arguing with her. She will tell you about Foolkiller. Enter the tent and talk to Foolkiller. Mention the highwaywomen and tell him that shes not fine (or something like that).Ã,  Exit the tent and reenter it. Take the uniform.

Enter the castle thingy and double left click on the uniform in your inventory.Ã,  Take a tshirt from the box and free the man in the stocks with the pinchers. You will be taken into town and the man will give you charcoal. Take the lanturn on the road and use the coal on the lantern. (Thats actually for the golem puzzle, but whatever.)

Go to town and give Ollie the shirt. Enter and get a lemon from a bush. Have a long conversation with the guy. Exhaust all topics. Use the tin cup on the fishbowl and use the lemon you acquired onto the mollassass seawater. Use navy joe's rum onto the seawater. YOu should have grog now. Go to the docks and give it to William. Take the potion. Go to the tower and talk to Master about the curse thingy. He should mention a cursebook. Go back to the docks and ask William about it.

Exit his place and use the butter onto the lever. Also use the gear, extra uniform part onto the diving rig. The thing should be fixed now and listen as the girl says something about a test dive. Talk to her and volunteer for it. Watch the cutscene with the dragon. When you wake up, ask the girl about the dragon. Use the potion now and you should wake up in a weird place. Talk to the things and find yourself in the well. Talk to the dragon andÃ,  use the bookcase. Use the vent and eventually you'll get it. Take the curse book and go to the tower.

Enter and take the blue cup picture. Open the nightstand and take the coppers. Go to the track. Yay, the rain stopped! Enter the stable and give Seacookie the picture. Go back outside and give the guy the coppers. Sea cookie wins! Yay. Go back to the tower and give Master the mountain of silvers.
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Golem puzzle
Spoiler
See above hint for how to get to the dragon's lair (the well). To get the clay, go to town and get the clay under the bird's cage. Get the lantern laying on the road. Rescue the pencil man (again see above) and use the coal he gave you onto the lantern. Enter the well and use the quill on the book wyrm. When he breaths fire, use the lantern onto the fire. You also need to get the bellow thingy, but I forgot where that is, sorry.

Go to your tower and use the clay into the cauldron. After that, use the lantern on it. Watch the small animation and add the water. Use the bellow thingy on the cauldron and use the golem scroll on the cauldron.
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Hope you found this "walkthrough" helpful.

Yes, I can't give t-shirt to Ollie as stated in Racing track puzzle section!
Anything else I need to do?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 04:03:37
Quote from: sunshinegold on Mon 02/08/2004 03:14:58
Quote from: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:47:45
Quote from: Artphreak555 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:12:57
As i said earlier i finished the game but i am trying to find the "secret puzzle". I have read earlier posts and no one has yet to actually give any hints regarding this, only questions such as mine, so can someone help me and the others PLEASE??? ???Also, someone mentioned a gift for the pirate girl, what is it?

The gift for the pirate girl is involved in the bonus puzzle.Ã,  First, try to find something romantic to give to her.Ã,  You may have already tried to pick this up at the start of the game, but the game wouldn't let you because Pib didn't have a good reason to...now he does.Ã,  I hope that's not too cryptic for everyone.

Well I finally finished this wonderful game.Ã,  Ã, :)

Are you sure about the bonus puzzle ???


I am sure about the bonus puzzle since I played and completed the game already.Ã,  I don't want to give a more specific hint since I think that most of the fun of bonus puzzles is discovering them yourself.

btw Geoffkhan - I'm a girl :)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: splat44 on Mon 02/08/2004 05:27:45
Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 14:08:30
Have actually talked with Ollie (the guard)? Maybe you can't give away unless Pib has been told he want something to protect the sunburn?

Yes, I have exhaust all conversation with Ollie and still cannot give t-shirt given by guard from castle place.

What else?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 06:00:49
Quote from: splat44 on Mon 02/08/2004 03:41:27

Go to town and give Ollie the shirt.


Yes, I can't give t-shirt to Ollie as stated in Racing track puzzle section!
Anything else I need to do?

Quote
You should have talked to Ollie before giving the T-shirt, and mention his unusual colour. Then he will answer that it is his "don't-bring-a-shirt-to-work-day". Then you should be able to give him the T-shirt.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 06:03:45
Sorry for the double post.
There is something I should mention. I might be an exception, but I have never had a crash with the pocket game, though I have played it lots of times whie trying to discover the pattern.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 06:06:50
Quote from: splat44 on Mon 02/08/2004 05:27:45
Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Sat 31/07/2004 14:08:30
Have actually talked with Ollie (the guard)? Maybe you can't give away unless Pib has been told he want something to protect the sunburn?

Yes, I have exhaust all conversation with Ollie and still cannot give t-shirt given by guard from castle place.

What else?

It may be one of those things that's so obvious you might not have actually done it, but have you actually "looked" at Ollie.  When you look at him Pib comments about how his skin looks quite red.  If you then talk to him, you'll notice that a new dialogue option opens up where you can ask him why he isn't wearing a shirt and you talk back and forth for a bit.  You should then be able to give Ollie his shirt.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 06:19:03
I'm having the same problem.  I've looked at Ollie and his skin and exhausted all dialogues with him but I still can't use the shirt on him.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 06:30:17
Quote from: GameCreator on Mon 02/08/2004 06:19:03
I'm having the same problem.Ã,  I've looked at Ollie and his skin and exhausted all dialogues with him but I still can't use the shirt on him.

Spoiler
Have you talked to everyone else to figure out why you have to go to the mansion?  I'm assuming you talked to all of the people at the racetrack, but have you talked to the wizard again about the races?  He will play dumb and not provide any new info, but it may trigger something to let you go to the mansion and give the guy the t-shirt.  Other than talking to all of the characters again, I can't think of anything else that I had to do in order to get into the mansion.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 07:10:42
Just finished the game absolutly stunning. The clues are simple but yet arent. If you think about it closely but not to hard. The awnsers come...also if you use a walkthrough ;). Anyway i loved the game cant wait to see part 3
Title: Once more
Post by: on Mon 02/08/2004 07:29:33
I finished the game by starting all over.Ã,  This time I didn't do the rat puzzle and I didn't talk to and look at Ollie until I was ready to give him the shirt.Ã,  I also didn't talk to as many people as possible.Ã,  Don't know what made the difference but I wanted to do everything as differently as I could from my first to tries to increase my chance of avoiding the bug.

Thanks to "Me" for posting the walkthrough (the bellows is found in the bakery, by the way) and, of course, the creator of this great game.Ã,  I couldn't stop playing it until I finished it.Ã,  I am very impressed.Ã,  Congratulations on creating such a great game!!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: kristofski on Mon 02/08/2004 13:37:42
I'm trying to free the bird, but he just says "I don't see how freeing pets is going to help anything". Have i missed something important here?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Me on Mon 02/08/2004 13:49:25
I think you have to talk to the bird first and then free it.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Zaerth on Mon 02/08/2004 16:42:07
Hey folks, after beating the game, I decided to do a second run through, this time writing a walkthrough a long the way.Ã,  I'm used to reading them, not writing them, so to warn you, this is my first one, but what better game to start with than this one?Ã,  Anyway, if you find yourself stuck somewhere and need some help, check it out.Ã,  Right now I posted it on my site at GeoCities.

http://www.geocities.com/wisewhiz/apprentice_2_walkthrough.html

By the way, I'm not sure if it's too early after the release to make a walkthrough, or if I'm going against some unwritten rules that I don't know about, but I figured it'd e all right.Ã,  If I should save it for later, I can take it down for now, though.Ã,  Thanks.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mephistophilis on Mon 02/08/2004 17:29:13
You could Post it on AGA games as well, as not everyone wll look here for it.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Mon 02/08/2004 23:03:17
Quote from: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 04:03:37
Quote from: sunshinegold on Mon 02/08/2004 03:14:58
Quote from: miryoku_81 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:47:45
Quote from: Artphreak555 on Mon 02/08/2004 00:12:57
As i said earlier i finished the game but i am trying to find the "secret puzzle". I have read earlier posts and no one has yet to actually give any hints regarding this, only questions such as mine, so can someone help me and the others PLEASE??? ???Also, someone mentioned a gift for the pirate girl, what is it?

The gift for the pirate girl is involved in the bonus puzzle.Ã,  First, try to find something romantic to give to her.Ã,  You may have already tried to pick this up at the start of the game, but the game wouldn't let you because Pib didn't have a good reason to...now he does.Ã,  I hope that's not too cryptic for everyone.

Well I finally finished this wonderful game.Ã,  Ã, :)

Are you sure about the bonus puzzle ???


I am sure about the bonus puzzle since I played and completed the game already.Ã,  I don't want to give a more specific hint since I think that most of the fun of bonus puzzles is discovering them yourself.

btw Geoffkhan - I'm a girl :)


My sincere apologies! I hate that he/she thing. I wish they only had one word instead of two. Like in Chinese... :)

EDIT: By the way, nice walkthrough, Wisewhiz!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 03/08/2004 01:16:16
Quote from: cittymom on Sun 01/08/2004 19:20:58

I did manage to get the bucket off of Seacookies foot a long time ago, but my arrow never changes color when I pass it on the ground or on Seacookies. :'(

Point right at his feet.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: splat44 on Tue 03/08/2004 01:19:50
Ya! I just finished apprentice 2. I believe I've also done bonus puzzle, so I though it would bring into mansion but not so.

Great game and I certainly cannot wait for next sequel.

splat44
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 03/08/2004 01:51:42
Quote from: Yvonne on Mon 02/08/2004 06:00:49
You should have talked to Ollie before giving the T-shirt, and mention his unusual colour. Then he will answer that it is his "don't-bring-a-shirt-to-work-day". Then you should be able to give him the T-shirt.

Actually, you don't even have to speak to Ollie about his colour or look at him (strangely enough!)  .  All you have to do is ask Simon (at the racetrack) about the curse (and eventually about the gangster).  In order for that little tidbit to come up, you need to speak to the ticketmaster about the curse first.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Pesty on Tue 03/08/2004 07:28:08
About the bonus puzzle:
Spoiler

I don't want any clues, really. I just can't seem to figure out where to start. I've talked to everyone and there doesn't seem to be anything prompting any reason for getting something 'romantic'.  I'm just curious where to start. The more vague the better, if possible.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mephistophilis on Tue 03/08/2004 13:30:30
I don't know if there is a prompt, I had pretty much finished the game I just had to hand over the silver.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 03/08/2004 13:39:54
Quote from: Pesty on Tue 03/08/2004 07:28:08
About the bonus puzzle:
Spoiler

I don't want any clues, really. I just can't seem to figure out where to start. I've talked to everyone and there doesn't seem to be anything prompting any reason for getting something 'romantic'.Ã,  I'm just curious where to start. The more vague the better, if possible.
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Not a single character will give you any prompt. You might feel obliged to Jezelle for letting you take the test dive. And besides she is meant to be beautiful and "appealing". So, you might try to thank her properly by offering her something.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Tue 03/08/2004 22:39:57
NOTE: The updated version of Apprentice II: The Knight's Move has been released. It has replaced the old download link.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Mephistophilis on Tue 03/08/2004 22:48:14
What's updated about it?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Tue 03/08/2004 23:46:22
I fixed the quill pen bug, a few typos, and supposedly fixed the crash in the Navy Joe game.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 04/08/2004 02:07:11
I have totally completed the game now, hidden puzzle and all. This was by far one of the best AGS games ever, i cannot wait for the last installment of the trilogy!!!

Here is a hint about the secret puzzle:
Spoiler
you cannot complete the secret puzzle until you help someone finish building something and have completed your underwater tasks. It involves taking something you cannot take without completing the above tasks and could not take earlier in the game
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 04/08/2004 07:23:03
I have all but the ending within reach   I have the picture to cheer up seacookie but when i show it to him he says

"I dont think there will be a race today"

someone help me out i wanna see the ending :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

P.s. i dont i do the hide thing so you have to select the writinfg to see i....

P.s.2   Thank for any help that is givin.....
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: ida on Wed 04/08/2004 12:13:17
Bobby_Joe,

The race and ending...

Spoiler
You can only give the good luck picture to Seacookie if you have lifted the curse of the rain at the races
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 04/08/2004 14:07:39
Quote from: ida on Wed 04/08/2004 12:13:17
Bobby_Joe,

The race and ending...

Spoiler
You can only give the good luck picture to Seacookie if you have lifted the curse of the rain at the races
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Thats just it tho how the
Spoiler
FUCK!!
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do i lift that damn fucking curse i got the pic but how do i get the rain to go away....
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: sunshinegold on Wed 04/08/2004 14:38:11
Quote from: Bobby_joe on Wed 04/08/2004 14:07:39
Quote from: ida on Wed 04/08/2004 12:13:17
Bobby_Joe,

The race and ending...

Spoiler
You can only give the good luck picture to Seacookie if you have lifted the curse of the rain at the races
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Thats just it tho how the
Spoiler
FUCK!!
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do i lift that damn fucking curse i got the pic but how do i get the rain to go away....

Hi Bobby_Joe:

Have you read the other posts in this forum ???   You should have found your answer by now.    IF not, go to:

http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?topic=15643.120

You should get your answer.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 21/08/2004 01:45:03
quill pen
Spoiler
tell the highwaywomen that you sign for her and get the quill pen.
then use it on desk
exit town and go to camp
exit camp and go to town
if highwaywoman is arguing, just pick the quill pen on the desk and now it's yours
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 26/08/2004 05:27:04
Okay, this game is fantastic.. and I'm really enjoying it but I think I've encountered ANOTHER bug.  This is my 3rd time attempting to play the game through.  The first, I stupidly missed the pen and had to restart.  The second was with the grog.. I mixed the molasses with the rum, and then that with the sea-water and somehow ended up with lemon rum water or whatever it was called.  Of course, then when I got the lemon and tried to add it, it wouldn't let me because the game was under the impression that the lemon had already been added, but the molasses hadn't when it fact it was the other way round!  So I restarted again.  Now, I've done a bunch of new stuff from my previous game, added the lemon and molasses to the sea water.. but navy joe has VANISHED!  I have the autograph to give him as I did in my previous game but he just won't appear.  I've tried waiting there for ages, entering the bakery then coming back out, going back to the map then back in.. everything I can think of but he's just not appearing.  Is this a bug?  Do I have to restart the game AGAIN!?!?!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Kediri on Thu 26/08/2004 23:23:44
This is the first time I've seen anyone with that bug! Out of interest did you have the game saved before you added the ingredients to the seawater? Because it sounds like you might have triggered another bug  :-\  Especially if you've done all that wondering around and he has turned up!
You could try going back to the ship and asking the pirate for the recipe again and then maybe looking at your mixture, or try giving it to the pirate and then back to the village. That may trigger Navy Joe into turning up. See, if that helps before restaring from your last save. By the way, remember the old adage - save often  :)
Hope that helps a little.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: lightman on Sat 28/08/2004 00:07:42
I started from the beginning since I got the updated version of Apprentice 2 and I can't get the highway woman to tell me about Foolkiller. I don't remember having to do anything before. I've seen her talking to the soldier... Anyone got a hint?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 29/08/2004 09:15:59
Quote from: Me on Mon 02/08/2004 00:55:31
This is a walkthrough for those of you who can't solve the game.


Rat puzzle:
Spoiler
Go the the docks and get the gear from the diving rig. Then, go to the bakery and stick the gear into the middle vent.Ã,  Take the butter and enter the stables in the racing track. Use it on the bucket on Seacookie's leg. Then, find the bucket part on his left leg and take it. Go back to the bakery and use it on one of the vents. Make sure it isn't the stove with the rats.Ã,  Use the stove with the rats and watch them leave the bakery.
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Ok, the next one is wrong.Ã,  I may have left something out or told you to do something in the wrong order, but this is a really complicated game. I hope you find what you need to advance into the game.

Racing track puzzle
Spoiler
Make sure you have the butter you got from the bakery and the mollassas. Enter the docks and go into the shipwreck. Try taking the potion on the shelves. William refuses so you have to talk to him and ask him about it. Finally, he'll tell you that he wants grog. Take the seawater next to him. Exit his place and take the pinchers off of the diving rig. Make sure that you replaced the gear if you took it.

Go to town and talk to the highway women. Exhaust all topics and ask to sign the petition again. Put the quill on her desk. Talk to Ollie and exhaust all topics. Go to the right of the bakery and free the bird with the pinchers. Make sure you use it on the cage, not on the bird. Go to the stables and look at the pegs. Go back into town and talk to the bird, which is next to Ollie. Ask the bird for a favor and it'll take down the awning in the stables for you.

Go to the castle place and watch the cutscene. Go back to town and keep exiting and entering untill you see the highway women arguing with the soldier. Take the quill from her desk. Find navy joe and talk to him. Play his game.

Remember that the first pocket he points to is the clue. Add 2 to the pocket number. If it is 8, the bear is in 1. If it is 9, the bear is in 2, etc.

Also ask him about the rum. He will give you a postcard to sign. Go to the stables and give it to the big centaurs to sign. Go back into town and give it to Navy Joe. Talk to the highwaywomen and ask her about the soldier that was arguing with her. She will tell you about Foolkiller. Enter the tent and talk to Foolkiller. Mention the highwaywomen and tell him that shes not fine (or something like that).Ã,  Exit the tent and reenter it. Take the uniform.

Enter the castle thingy and double left click on the uniform in your inventory.Ã,  Take a tshirt from the box and free the man in the stocks with the pinchers. You will be taken into town and the man will give you charcoal. Take the lanturn on the road and use the coal on the lantern. (Thats actually for the golem puzzle, but whatever.)

Go to town and give Ollie the shirt. Enter and get a lemon from a bush. Have a long conversation with the guy. Exhaust all topics. Use the tin cup on the fishbowl and use the lemon you acquired onto the mollassass seawater. Use navy joe's rum onto the seawater. YOu should have grog now. Go to the docks and give it to William. Take the potion. Go to the tower and talk to Master about the curse thingy. He should mention a cursebook. Go back to the docks and ask William about it.

Exit his place and use the butter onto the lever. Also use the gear, extra uniform part onto the diving rig. The thing should be fixed now and listen as the girl says something about a test dive. Talk to her and volunteer for it. Watch the cutscene with the dragon. When you wake up, ask the girl about the dragon. Use the potion now and you should wake up in a weird place. Talk to the things and find yourself in the well. Talk to the dragon andÃ,  use the bookcase. Use the vent and eventually you'll get it. Take the curse book and go to the tower.

Enter and take the blue cup picture. Open the nightstand and take the coppers. Go to the track. Yay, the rain stopped! Enter the stable and give Seacookie the picture. Go back outside and give the guy the coppers. Sea cookie wins! Yay. Go back to the tower and give Master the mountain of silvers.
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Golem puzzle
Spoiler
See above hint for how to get to the dragon's lair (the well). To get the clay, go to town and get the clay under the bird's cage. Get the lantern laying on the road. Rescue the pencil man (again see above) and use the coal he gave you onto the lantern. Enter the well and use the quill on the book wyrm. When he breaths fire, use the lantern onto the fire. You also need to get the bellow thingy, but I forgot where that is, sorry.

Go to your tower and use the clay into the cauldron. After that, use the lantern on it. Watch the small animation and add the water. Use the bellow thingy on the cauldron and use the golem scroll on the cauldron.
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Hope you found this "walkthrough" helpful.


??? ??? I'm trying to get the feather pen from the highwaywoman, I have the postcard and the recruiter is there and they are arguing. But I click "take" on the desk, the woman, the petition and it's surroundings and I can't get the pen, I also tried "use" on everything in the woman's area. Is there a mistake with the game or am I doing something wrong. Please help :'( ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: lakerz on Mon 30/08/2004 02:06:15
Quote from: agser on Sun 01/08/2004 10:28:51
Quote from: AgsFanatic on Sun 01/08/2004 10:00:29
Someone knows how to get the secret/bonus puzzle?
There is reference to it above in this thread. you'll be able to interact with something that earlier in the game it was impossible.
The lump of clay "smells kind of funny". Pib has to use "purest elements possible". There is mud on the track.
So - is it possible to get mud and use it for the golem instead of the not so pure clay?

Is this true regarding the mud?  I've tried to pick it up both before and after the race, but with no luck.   ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 01/09/2004 19:09:40
i cant get foyled to fly away and fix the awnning can someone help
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 01/09/2004 19:15:45

i cant get foyled to fly away and fix the awnning can someone plz help
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 08/09/2004 14:32:08
Alright...I need help...

Spoiler
I've talked to Ollie about everything, looked at him, tried to even use him, but I still can't give the t-shirt that I got from the castle to him. Pib keeps saying "I don't think he'd want that." Is there something I need to do first?
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Wed 08/09/2004 14:43:16
Nevermind...figured it out myself...
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 09/09/2004 23:07:14
Can someone please tell me how to get Lloyd/bird off the mansion gate! I've tried talking to him, but Pib keeps telling Lloyd he's going to find a cat.
??? Sorry I don't know yet how to hide this text
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Kediri on Fri 10/09/2004 15:02:37
To hide text - you need to do this; [h]whatever you want to say text[/h] except write the word hide not just h.  ;)
You can then check it when you preview what you've written before posting it!  :D

With Lloyd there are several steps you need to take before you can get the help you need.

1
Spoiler
Have you tried to get the centaurs to sign your postcard?
They won't because they are too busy signing fans autographs
The fans are protected from the rain, by the cover
Look at the cover, look at the pegs, can you get them? - No you can't reach
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2
Spoiler
Now try and go back and ask Lloyd for help
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It might be that you need to repeat this until it registers in the game  :-\
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 10/09/2004 19:01:37
Thank you so much
[h]I never thought of taking the peg again, since I already tried that, but it worked now![/h]Ã,  ;D
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: brown on Fri 10/09/2004 19:15:30
I`ve a problem with the curse book.....I`ve talked to the dragon and it says I can have the book......but when I `ve returned to the races,it is raining.....what is the problem?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: brown on Sat 11/09/2004 10:42:37
ok I solved the problem...can someone give a hint about the secret bonus?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 11/09/2004 15:27:56
Jezelle wont ask me to test drive her diving rig?!?! :-[ *sigh* neone help?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 11/09/2004 15:42:17
 :D yay! i went under! no worries  :P
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: brown on Sat 11/09/2004 17:21:38
again....give me a hint about the secret bonus,please! ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: evenwolf on Sat 11/09/2004 21:39:18
Don't be such a prick.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 12/09/2004 00:39:49
Quote from: crazyman on Sat 31/07/2004 09:30:18
Dragonlair:
Spoiler
Just get the grog ready give it to the pirate. Then go outside near the diving gear and drink the potion
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I JUST DID IT BUT NOTHING HAPPENS

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 12/09/2004 17:07:43
Quote from: crazyman on Sat 31/07/2004 09:38:37
Cursebook:
Spoiler
To get the curse book try to open the valve and reason with the dragonÃ,  until all options are used.After you get the right question.The dragon will give it you.Just keep trying.
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THE DRAGON DON'T REASON WITH ME, HE SAYS THAT A MAGICIAN CANT BEAT AN ARMY
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Kediri on Mon 13/09/2004 01:29:58
There is a sequence that you have to go through, getting the right sequence is hard work!  :-\

Luckily there is a walkthrough written by Wisewhiz;

http://www.geocities.com/wisewhiz/apprentice_2_walkthrough.html

;D

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: brown on Mon 13/09/2004 10:50:08
Quote from: kingsized on Sat 11/09/2004 21:39:18
Don't be such a prick.
thanks of your kindness???!!!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: evenwolf on Tue 14/09/2004 07:20:21
you're welcome - as it is a clue.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 24/10/2004 19:37:48
any1 know how to get water?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Goot on Sun 24/10/2004 20:19:41
Spoiler
There's a barrel of seawater inside the ship where that pirate guy lives.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 07/11/2004 08:28:54
plz,can anybody tell me,if this Game Zip files?
Its long time to download it and may be ,i will not be able to play it in my pc..thanks
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Mon 08/11/2004 00:54:44
If I understand your question correctly, yes, Apprentice 2 is in a zip file.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 08/11/2004 16:19:34
Thanks,...you get it right but...sorry ,i forgot to ask more important ,is it Dos platform?
I cant play DOS in my PC...so pitty..thanks again..
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: nick3005 on Mon 08/11/2004 20:37:36
Quote from: Alla on Mon 08/11/2004 16:19:34
Thanks,...you get it right but...sorry ,i forgot to ask more important ,is it Dos platform?
I cant play DOS in my PC...so pitty..thanks again..

I don't know much about DOS games on ags, but it runs on windows, if that was your question...
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 09/11/2004 16:04:35
Thanks,but as i said *I cant play DOS in my PC.*..so pitty..So ,if its DOS platform,its useless for me to download. Any one remember , if its Dos platform Game?
thanks again..  :)

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: nick3005 on Tue 09/11/2004 17:45:33
Quote from: Alla on Tue 09/11/2004 16:04:35
Thanks,but as i said *I cant play DOS in my PC.*..so pitty..So ,if its DOS platform,its useless for me to download. Any one remember , if its Dos platform Game?
thanks again..  :)


I'm confused!  ;)

As far as I know, its a windows platform, as i played it on my windows PC
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 11/11/2004 06:47:39
Right I've got the book but it never seems to stop raining at the track!! after getting the book I made the golem but the rain still won't stop. trying entering / exiting etc to no avail.. any help?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 11/11/2004 07:02:04
nvm abt the book - i figured it out
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sun 14/11/2004 14:10:35
I don't seem to have the curse book, even though it said I did.  I went back to an earlier save to check - did the whole dragon thing again - there was nothing to pick up, and when I tried to do the valve again it just said "you already have the book".  If so - where is it?

I have done the rats and golem, I have been up and down the tower and back and forth to the race track several times, but it is still raining, and no one will speak to me.

Also, all my earlier saves have disappeared.  I can only load save12, my most recent save.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: AGA on Mon 15/11/2004 01:29:21
Spoiler
The book's on the pedestal next to the dragon...
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 16/11/2004 03:55:56
You can get the book back from the dragon, by trying to open the valve behind the bookcase.  Move bookcase.  He will get worried that the water will come in and ruin the books.

Go to the web and search Apprentice2 or Apprentice 1 (I forget which one this is) search for cheat sheets or hints on this .  There you will find a walkthrough.

Lots of luck. It was a fun game
Title: Game crash
Post by: on Tue 07/12/2004 21:52:44
Trying to use the coppers on the guy with the sword at the gate causes the game to crash.Ã,  It's happened twice now (checking to see if it was a one time deal). The first time I didn't get dialogue, the second time he told me he valued his job more than that.Ã,  Then it crashed.Ã,  Here's the error message that came up.

(Room 10 script line 1112)
Error: AnimateCharacter: invalid loop number specified

Other than this I haven't experienced any other problems.Ã,  Fun game.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 09/12/2004 18:45:58
No matter how much I try to talk to the bird it keeps saying, I'm going to find a cat for him,
Now I haven't seen a cat anywhere...The bird won't help me fix the fan problem.
So I can't make the rain stop and I can't get the rum for the potion

Also I saw the dragon, then where do I go? There's no place left
Bip won't go in the diving suit anymore:-\

The foolkiller won't give me the clown, the lady in the village doesn't do anything then letting me know she still has the club...

Where do I find fire to lit the lantern?

Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 10/12/2004 10:40:44
Have you managed to get the pen off the highwaywoman ?
I remember reading that there is only one point in the game that you can do this, and if you dont then youre stuck in a dead end.
Ive played the game but cant remember when it is you have to get the pen.....if not that may be why you're having trouble.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Rave on Fri 10/12/2004 23:46:21
How to get the pen is a bit trickey.
Spoiler
As I recall, when you enter the town, sometimes...there is that guard who is arguing with the highway woman. I think, you have to sign the petition, then....put the pen on the table instead of giving it back to her. Leave the town and come back when they are arguing. She doesn't notice when you snatch the pen. Or thats how I remember doing it anyway. You should be able to do it at any point durring the game as long as you havn't gotten the Foolkiller to "take care of buisness".
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Mon 07/02/2005 20:18:14
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 30/07/2004 05:37:44
this game is HaRd...how do I put the awning down in the stables???

Go to the gate with the guard in the village. If you have freed Lloyd, he will be there. Keep talking to him and then you can ask him a favour. The favour is to undo the pegs. He will fly away and do it. I haven't got a clue what to do next as I am stuck.
I put the cog in the stove, but don't know what to do next. This game is hard!!
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Rosie on Tue 08/02/2005 03:58:17
Quote from: lo on Mon 07/02/2005 20:18:14
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 30/07/2004 05:37:44
this game is HaRd...how do I put the awning down in the stables???

Go to the gate with the guard in the village. If you have freed Lloyd, he will be there. Keep talking to him and then you can ask him a favour. The favour is to undo the pegs. He will fly away and do it. I haven't got a clue what to do next as I am stuck.
I put the cog in the stove, but don't know what to do next. This game is hard!!


Walkthrough is at http://www.geocities.com/wisewhiz/apprentice_2_walkthrough. ..
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 08/02/2005 10:01:50
If you've put the cog in the stove
Spoiler
You need to keep messing with the stove (opening and closing them) so that the rats run out of the building and you've solved the rat problem.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Sat 12/02/2005 04:17:03
To get the pencil/pen you have to ask the highwoman to sign in. then you put it on the desk. You leave and wait untill sge discusses with the driver. When that happens, you take the pencil/pen and she will not notice it
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: moocowninja on Sat 12/02/2005 07:59:20
No were is that sea monster tell me plz.

???    ???    ???    ???    ???    ???    ???    ???    ???    ???    ???
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 24/02/2006 20:05:55
Heavily disappointed!

The walkthrough said there's only one dead end, but there's another.
Spoiler

The wyrm dialog can't be repeated.
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But the game lets me save only 1 game, so I can only restore the last save!
Now I have to replay the whole game (I won't), or to screw it.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Fri 24/02/2006 20:19:04
There is an ooold question how to get water.
Spoiler

Get it from the owner of the villa. You have to get past the guard (Ollie) first.
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The seamonster:
Spoiler

1. Check the walkthrough to do the basic steps first.
2. Then You have to talk to several people (multiple times) about the races curse, a book and the sea monster.
3. Then you have to make all things ready for the diving machine.
4. Then dive.
5. Then you have to talk to some person again to find the monster again.
6. Then comes a hard part to go to the monster (see the walkthrough).
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To Pe (ooold question, too)
Spoiler

No cat involved. Get the bird free with some tool.
Dragon/Swimsuit: See hint above and walkthru.
Coal you get from Navy Joe. Use all dialog options to play a game. Use trial and error on game and write down successes. Or use walkthru.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 13/06/2006 00:29:47
wow, thanks to this forum, I finally found out how to get the quill pen... :P :P
maybe it would be a good idea, to keep a more concrete note in the walkthrough, what to do with it when the highwaywoman gave it to you for another signature.

Could be, that I'm a little slow with things like this, but it drove me mad... ::) and the few hints on the first 5 pages of this thread werent any help to me.

But thanks to you all anyway ;D espeacially to the guy, who wrote the walkthrough... 8)
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: big brother on Tue 13/06/2006 06:28:59
The walking dead the walkthrough mentions was in an older version of the game. As for the wyrm:

Spoiler
It's not a walking dead, since attempting to open the valve will intiate a conversation with the wyrm, one you couldn't have by simply talking to him. It's through this conversation that you can convince him to give you the books back.
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Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Tue 13/06/2006 17:40:28
I knew it was no dead end, as you wrote it in your own forum. that's why it drove me mad, because i knew there had to be a way.
when i finally found out, i could have eaten my table, bite myself into the ass, as we would say in german.... ;) and i can't even blame the foreign language for my own stupidity :P

by the way, how about a translation, like you did on the first part?
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: big brother on Tue 13/06/2006 20:37:34
Sorry the game frustrated you. It's probably poor puzzle design on my part. :(

A German translation is a great idea. Unfortunately, Apprentice 2 has much more dialogue than the first one, and I'd feel pretty bad if someone had to translate it for free.

I'll look into it.
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: on Thu 07/09/2006 18:04:24
 ??? i need help, i cant give olie the t shirt it says he wouldnt want it
Title: Re: apprentice 2
Post by: Gregjazz on Sat 09/09/2006 05:52:33
Quote from: vampica on Thu 07/09/2006 18:04:24
??? i need help, i cant give olie the t shirt it says he wouldnt want it

You can only give him the shirt once you know you need to go to the mansion. Who lives in the mansion? Talk to the people at the centaur racetrack.
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