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Title: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Mike S. on Wed 08/08/2012 06:46:57
I'm about to go off to sleep, but at the moment I'm stuck at

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the Coach and Horses. I've exhausted every option with Seamus, I realize each food order shortens to PQJ but I'm not sure what to do with that information.
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The game's only been out for an hour and a half, and for all I know, I may have this problem figured out by tomorrow morning. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Khris on Wed 08/08/2012 09:13:12
Funny, I got stuck at the same spot and immediately realized the solution when I read your question:
hint:
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PQJ is short for Percival Quentin Jones
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solution:
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Just spell BJ with your own food order (Blood Sausage, Jaffa Cakes, no dessert) and put it in the dumbwaiter.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 10:53:24
I am stuck after the situation mentioned above

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I have met Percival Quentin Jones, but I literally have no idea what to do next. The notebook isn't much help either.
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I played it again, then it became obvious what I was supposed to do.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: cactusx on Wed 08/08/2012 11:46:36
I'm having a real problem with

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getting into the old woman's house in Sighisoara. Every time I use the plank to knock I get banished after a few seconds.
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Thanks!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Khris on Wed 08/08/2012 12:11:21
cactusx:
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After the door is opened, interact with it. Arthur will hold it open and eventually you can enter.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: cactusx on Wed 08/08/2012 12:14:48
Quote from: Khris on Wed 08/08/2012 12:11:21
cactusx:
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After the door is opened, interact with it. Arthur will hold it open and eventually you can enter.
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Lifesaver! Cheers!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
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Stuck again:

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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:47:08
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
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Oh yes, I've been to the cemetery, Many many times. He reads the names of the tombstones but seems content to leave it at that.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:49:41
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:47:08
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
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Oh yes, I've been to the cemetery, Many many times. He reads the names of the tombstones but seems content to leave it at that.
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Have you been to the tree then? And read all of the carvings? After that, talk to the archivist.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 13:27:30
Ah, thank you! Thank you! <3
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Olvery on Wed 08/08/2012 13:34:38
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Stuck again:
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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
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I am stuck here to, there are only three places on the map (Persy's home, pub and museum). I think one has to look something up in the museum, but no idea what. Tried to raise the reporters interest in children fates using the magazine, but alas to no avail. :smiley:
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 13:41:28
Ah, I think I found it. The answer lies in:
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pixel hunting. Perhaps in places where you haven't found anything else yet.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 14:33:31
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
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Stuck again:

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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
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Ahhh, here is the answer to that one:
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go back to Percy's flat and then look on the street light, you should then find a piece of paper on the bottom of it. That is a guide to "weird places"
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. Anyways, I am currently stuck to on this part
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the crypt maze after you go down the manhole with all the rooms in it, i have tried every single item, but none of them work and it's almost the end of the game, i almost had an aneurysm trying to figure it out
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 15:05:26
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 14:33:31
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
[close]

Stuck again:

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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
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Ahhh, here is the answer to that one:
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go back to Percy's flat and then look on the street light, you should then find a piece of paper on the bottom of it. That is a guide to "weird places"
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. Anyways, I am currently stuck to on this part
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the crypt maze after you go down the manhole with all the rooms in it, i have tried every single item, but none of them work and it's almost the end of the game, i almost had an aneurysm trying to figure it out
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What you need to do is:
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Go back to the osuary entrance and look at bottom left of the screen. Pick up the pebbles and go back to the room with the policeman and then throw the pebbles in the doorway leading north. Now you can go across the room. Take note of the writing on the wall: "NO ONE SEES".
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: dbuske on Wed 08/08/2012 15:09:30
I am stuck after 5 minutes. What do I search the computer for.
What is the Cardinals name? No info for Knights of St. Anthony.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 15:14:48
Quote from: dbuske on Wed 08/08/2012 15:09:30
I am stuck after 5 minutes. What do I search the computer for.
What is the Cardinals name? No info for Knights of St. Anthony.

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what you i did was search "genovese" in the computer and then read the "clergyman london" article and then i typed in "St. Thomas" and i believe one of the articles there opens up a new address for you
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 15:19:19
Quote from: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 15:05:26
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 14:33:31
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
[close]

Stuck again:

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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
[close]

Ahhh, here is the answer to that one:
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go back to Percy's flat and then look on the street light, you should then find a piece of paper on the bottom of it. That is a guide to "weird places"
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. Anyways, I am currently stuck to on this part
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the crypt maze after you go down the manhole with all the rooms in it, i have tried every single item, but none of them work and it's almost the end of the game, i almost had an aneurysm trying to figure it out
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What you need to do is:
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Go back to the osuary entrance and look at bottom left of the screen. Pick up the pebbles and go back to the room with the policeman and then throw the pebbles in the doorway leading north. Now you can go across the room. Take note of the writing on the wall: "NO ONE SEES".
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i think you misunderstood me, i am stuck in the part where
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where i light up the dark room after i go down the manhole and i see all these drawings and there are a bunch of doors and after  a certain amount of clicks it brings you back to the beginning of the room and you have to start over
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 15:29:30
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 15:19:19
Quote from: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 15:05:26
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 14:33:31
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
[close]

Stuck again:

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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
[close]

Ahhh, here is the answer to that one:
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go back to Percy's flat and then look on the street light, you should then find a piece of paper on the bottom of it. That is a guide to "weird places"
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. Anyways, I am currently stuck to on this part
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the crypt maze after you go down the manhole with all the rooms in it, i have tried every single item, but none of them work and it's almost the end of the game, i almost had an aneurysm trying to figure it out
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What you need to do is:
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Go back to the osuary entrance and look at bottom left of the screen. Pick up the pebbles and go back to the room with the policeman and then throw the pebbles in the doorway leading north. Now you can go across the room. Take note of the writing on the wall: "NO ONE SEES".
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i think you misunderstood me, i am stuck in the part where
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where i light up the dark room after i go down the manhole and i see all these drawings and there are a bunch of doors and after  a certain amount of clicks it brings you back to the beginning of the room and you have to start over
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If you took some time to learn some french, you'd know that NOOSES isn't a french word...
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It's an abbreviation!
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 15:34:57
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 15:29:30
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 15:19:19
Quote from: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 15:05:26
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 14:33:31
Quote from: Noat on Wed 08/08/2012 12:39:43
Quote from: Resulka on Wed 08/08/2012 12:22:08
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I'm stuck getting the headless Vamp's Name to search through the town records. Percy = no help. I may have tried to stake him a couple of times.
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The town records is in one of the buildings, but you can't rely on that entirely. If only there was another place where they write down the names of dead people...
[close]

Stuck again:

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I have just finished the story and am looking for "weird places". I was thinking either Berkeley Square or that sunken city would qualify, but no, it has to be something new...
[close]

Ahhh, here is the answer to that one:
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go back to Percy's flat and then look on the street light, you should then find a piece of paper on the bottom of it. That is a guide to "weird places"
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. Anyways, I am currently stuck to on this part
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the crypt maze after you go down the manhole with all the rooms in it, i have tried every single item, but none of them work and it's almost the end of the game, i almost had an aneurysm trying to figure it out
[close]

What you need to do is:
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Go back to the osuary entrance and look at bottom left of the screen. Pick up the pebbles and go back to the room with the policeman and then throw the pebbles in the doorway leading north. Now you can go across the room. Take note of the writing on the wall: "NO ONE SEES".
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i think you misunderstood me, i am stuck in the part where
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where i light up the dark room after i go down the manhole and i see all these drawings and there are a bunch of doors and after  a certain amount of clicks it brings you back to the beginning of the room and you have to start over
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If you took some time to learn some french, you'd know that NOOSES isn't a french word...
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It's an abbreviation!
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Stop being so criptic, dude!
N stands for North
S for South
O for West (if you checked the chart at the Hostel you'd know that)
E for East.
So.. NOOSES. Does that tell you anything?
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Mike S. on Wed 08/08/2012 16:52:03
I'm now stuck at

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the second part of Percy's story in Romania. I've broken into the house, discovered the body, but can't seem to do anything else.
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EDIT:

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I figured it out. Somehow I overlooked the broken glass outside.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Mike S. on Wed 08/08/2012 17:55:25
And now, with 91/100 points, I have another problem.

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How do I light the sewer? It says I need another light source because the lighter gets too hot. I've been exhaustive in my search and have found nothing.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 18:14:36
Quote from: Mike S. on Wed 08/08/2012 17:55:25
And now, with 91/100 points, I have another problem.

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How do I light the sewer? It says I need another light source because the lighter gets too hot. I've been exhaustive in my search and have found nothing.
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i remember you need to combine the bone with one of the paper items you have (forget which one it is), the motor oil and then the lighter  to make a makeshift torch
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Mike S. on Wed 08/08/2012 18:23:36
Quote from: fatmike006 on Wed 08/08/2012 18:14:36
Quote from: Mike S. on Wed 08/08/2012 17:55:25
And now, with 91/100 points, I have another problem.

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How do I light the sewer? It says I need another light source because the lighter gets too hot. I've been exhaustive in my search and have found nothing.
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i remember you need to combine the bone with one of the paper items you have (forget which one it is), the motor oil and then the lighter  to make a makeshift torch
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Thanks! I tried that a few times but

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i guess it's reliant on the order you do it in.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Fool on Wed 08/08/2012 18:56:53
Hey guys, I finished the game, but I only found two endings.
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Killing cardinal or leaving him ant let him to jump. Any suggestions how can I find other 2?
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Thanks!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Fool on Wed 08/08/2012 19:17:43
Or are there only 2 endings? :D
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Wed 08/08/2012 19:33:41
 i cant even seem to find the pub and i feel really stupid anyone help me?
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Fool on Wed 08/08/2012 19:56:30
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search "coach and horses" in library :)
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 20:23:14
Quote from: RaGG on Wed 08/08/2012 19:17:43
Or are there only 2 endings? :D

According to Francisco (said it himself on facebook) there are 4 endings plus a secret one. I'm trying to figure out which are those endings as we speak. Once I'll know more, I'll write it.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Wed 08/08/2012 20:28:43
yeah i did but it says nothing was found
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 20:29:57
By the way, has anyone found a use for
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the dog-head shaped key
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?
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Fool on Wed 08/08/2012 20:42:45
Thepr: Yup, I thought he did. I'm playing the game again with commentary so maybe I'll find something too...

The Hero: Really? Thats weird. Maybe typo? I'd suggest to try one more time...
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Grundislav on Wed 08/08/2012 20:57:22
Glad everyone is enjoying the game so far (I hope!)

As far as the endings, there are 4 depending on 2 variables:
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1. Whether or not you kill Genovese
2. Whether or not you follow Alice into the crypt.
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There is also the secret ending, and thepr is on the right track for that one...
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Fool on Wed 08/08/2012 21:08:29
AH-HAAAAH!
Excellente, thanks :)

And we're glad you made this series, Grundi. Case 8 is amazing!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 21:32:10
I got 4 endings out of 5. The secret ending is going to be a bit harder to  find.
What I know (I might be wrong) about it is that
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it has something to do with that dog-head shaped key and you can only get it if you go and meet Alice in the cemetery
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I'll try to figure out the rest.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Stupot on Thu 09/08/2012 12:59:56
Sorry if this has been asked, but I don't want to spoil myself by clicking through the hints above.
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I'm in Romania and have to find out the vampire girl's name so I can look her up in the town records.  I've tried everything in the graveyard and nothing works.  Perhaps I am missing an item (I only have some dry bramble and the wood from the clock tower). I don't know what to do next.
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How's about a little clue? ;)
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: verlaine83 on Thu 09/08/2012 15:18:10
Stupot+:

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Have you examined every carving on the tree outside the butcher shop? Have you asked the records keeper about the initials after examining the carvings? Have you examined every grave in the cemetery?
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Hope this helps!

Need more hints for the secret ending (pretty please?):
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Where exactly is the dog-head shaped key mentioned by thepr? I've already completed the game once on the Alice route -- but didn't come across any dog-head shaped key.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Thu 09/08/2012 15:44:55
Quote from: verlaine83 on Thu 09/08/2012 15:18:10
Stupot+:

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Have you examined every carving on the tree outside the butcher shop? Have you asked the records keeper about the initials after examining the carvings? Have you examined every grave in the cemetery?
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Hope this helps!

Need more hints for the secret ending (pretty please?):
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Where exactly is the dog-head shaped key mentioned by thepr? I've already completed the game once on the Alice route -- but didn't come across any dog-head shaped key.
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verlaine83
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The key magically appears in your inventory after you speak to Alice and return to meet Percy at the hotel (at least that's when I noticed it). But I'm stuck, I still don't know what to do with it.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 15:46:45
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ok ao i cant find the name of the vampire now ive read the hints read the grave stones someone talked about a tree with carving but the only tree i remember is the one in the grave yard that dosnt seem to be it
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Thu 09/08/2012 15:50:57
Quote from: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 15:46:45
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ok ao i cant find the name of the vampire now ive read the hints read the grave stones someone talked about a tree with carving but the only tree i remember is the one in the grave yard that dosnt seem to be it
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go to the where the town hall, don't go inside the town hall building instead head to the left of the screen and it should take you to the tree with the carvings
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: verlaine83 on Thu 09/08/2012 15:54:02
thepr
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Thanks! But unfortunately -- I still don't have the key in my inventory even after replaying the Alice crypt sequence and talking to Percy at the hotel. Maybe I haven't met another specific condition?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 16:05:02
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thanks for that now i got Rk but of course not that easy right so now what since the record keeper cantt help?
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i feel stupid needing all these hints
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: ssue on Thu 09/08/2012 16:20:46
Quote from: verlaine83 on Thu 09/08/2012 15:54:02
thepr
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Thanks! But unfortunately -- I still don't have the key in my inventory even after replaying the Alice crypt sequence and talking to Percy at the hotel. Maybe I haven't met another specific condition?
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verlaine83:
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Check out the drain by Rue Commines hotel. You have to utilize some kind of tool you used earlier in Sacré Coeur...
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and those who are in pursuit of the "secret ending", why don't we share our own progress?
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If you look into the relief above the Notre-date cathedral door, you may notice some carved people in some sort of "holy dog pile". This could be a significant hint, yet my all attempts to use the dog-head shaped key on it have been failed. Besides, I couldn't find any fittable keyhole for it throughout the whole game. Is it really a key to open something? In my guess it could be a part to assemble something.
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and just my wish,
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I hope the secret ending reveals the truth, like some detailed stories about poor Antonia (maybe the little girl with black pussy shown at the bombing cutscene?) and Genovese's penitence for what he has done. Of course, it might not go well as I excpect to be. It could also be some funny one related to a dog. Anyway, I just can't wait to see the last, tempting ending.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: on Thu 09/08/2012 16:27:15
Im stuck at the pub. I have the travel brochure, but the guy won't accept it. I can't seem to find any way to dry it out. Help!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Stupot on Thu 09/08/2012 16:42:31
@verlaine83
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Aha, that'll be it. I never even noticed any carvings on the tree. Thanks for the heads up!
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 17:43:03
ok so  forget my last hint request but
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what do i need to  get the old lady to let me in
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Thu 09/08/2012 18:33:07
Quote from: Que Tran on Thu 09/08/2012 16:27:15
Im stuck at the pub. I have the travel brochure, but the guy won't accept it. I can't seem to find any way to dry it out. Help!

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use the travel brochure on the lamp inside percy's room at the coach and horses pub
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: fatmike006 on Thu 09/08/2012 18:33:49
Quote from: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 17:43:03
ok so  forget my last hint request but
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what do i need to  get the old lady to let me in
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use the dried brambles with the wood piece and then use that stick on the door to knock on it for the old lady to let you in
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 19:03:16
nothing  changed unless i did it out of order
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: dbuske on Thu 09/08/2012 19:14:14
I couldn't get by the guy with the gun in the beginning.  Have to get back to thee game.
Only played 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 19:19:14
@dbuske
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there is a reason Percy is behind the door try talking to him
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: QW on Thu 09/08/2012 19:21:28
@verlaine83:
I didn't get it magically, myself:
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I fished it out of the drain outside the hotel in Paris, using the unwound coat hanger ...still can't find anything to do with it, however - and the only reference to dogs I've seen is the dog pile Ben describes when looking at the topmost carving on the door to Notre Dame.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: reem on Thu 09/08/2012 19:52:05
The Hero, I'm not sure which part of the problem you were asking hints for in your earlier post, but just in case you need the latter half, here it is:
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To get inside the old lady's house, first you need to knock on the door with the piece of wood (you don't really need the brambles yet) just like fatmike006 told in the previous post. Then, when she opens the door and won't let you in, you need to block the door with your hand so she can't get it shut.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: reem on Thu 09/08/2012 20:19:05
To all you people having trouble with the secret ending: I still haven't figured it out, either, but here are some random thoughts I had on it. Some are quite far-fetched, as I'm getting pretty desperate here. :) At least this hopefully saves someone else the trouble of trying out these silly ideas.

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So, I just finished re-playing the whole game with the commentary on, and as entertaining as it was, it really didn't offer much clues as to what the secret ending could be. One small detail that caught my the eye second time around was the AGW graffiti outside Madame Tilly's shop. The statues in the Sacre Coeur crypt were A, D and G, so I was hoping I might simply find there something with W to end the sequence with, and maybe reveal something where the dog-headed key fits, but eventually I found nothing. I also tried A, G and S (Sacre Coeur itself) for AGS, but that didn't work out either. :) As I said before, this is getting pretty far-fetched.

I also found it quite strange in the flash-backs that the local butcher's family can afford a fancy crypt, but I couldn't figure out anything new in Arthur & Percy's adventures. What keeps bugging me most is the underlined name Butacu in the tree that can also be found at the graveyard, but maybe it really doesn't mean anything.

I also tried figuring out the dog-pile mural, but didn't really get anywhere with that. If it's not a red herring, I guess there's something we need to find before going to Notre Dame to do anything with it.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Thu 09/08/2012 20:21:42
I think Grundislav really enjoys himself while reading this forum. I hope you're happy man, you just woke up the nerds in us :))
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: reem on Thu 09/08/2012 20:37:04
I just figured out the secret ending!!! :) You can totally ignore my previous post. I don't want to spoil it for you guys, so here are some hints:

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Look really carefully at the tree in the village, the one with the carvings.
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See a familiar looking dog in the upper left corner?
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And #2 = SENO sure looks like catacomb directions?
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So, just go to the second intersection and walk from there. :)
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And yes, thank you Grundislav for waking up the nerd in all of us, because the real reason figured it out was:

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I reloaded back to the tree to check if that mysterious phrase was Romanian for "My hovercraft is full of eels" and noticed the dog by accident. :) And, yes, in case if you are wondering, it really was the hovercraft phrase.
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Thank you once again Grundislav for a great game and a great series!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: thepr on Thu 09/08/2012 21:07:53
Wait, the secret ending is THAT? All that work just for... oh, man! I was really hoping for something else... anyway, thanks for a great game, Grundi!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Sslaxx on Fri 10/08/2012 00:29:15
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What do you do, exactly, with the soggy brochure? The assh-erm, reporter-type guy in the pub won't take it from Ben.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: verlaine83 on Fri 10/08/2012 01:31:11
Sslaxx

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Try drying out the brochure on the lamp in Percy's room at the Coach and Horses
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Oh...so that's the secret ending? Thanks for tips  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Yuzzybus on Fri 10/08/2012 12:04:35
Stuck at the car chase. 
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I keep on throwing the kids magazine at the knight's car but it just blows away.  Am I just suppose to keep doing that repeatedly or is there more to it?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Sslaxx on Fri 10/08/2012 13:54:54
Quote from: Yuzzybus on Fri 10/08/2012 12:04:35
Stuck at the car chase. 
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I keep on throwing the kids magazine at the knight's car but it just blows away.  Am I just suppose to keep doing that repeatedly or is there more to it?
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Did you try to investigate the car you're in? If you did, did you try using what you found?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Fri 10/08/2012 14:12:40
ok last hint for me i think
w
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hat oh what to do with a soggy piece of paper?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Sslaxx on Fri 10/08/2012 14:16:37
Quote from: The Hero on Fri 10/08/2012 14:12:40
ok last hint for me i think
w
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hat oh what to do with a soggy piece of paper?
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This one stumped me too.
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But you can dry it on a lamp...
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: david on Fri 10/08/2012 15:42:23
Enjoying it so far, found it not very hard, but this maze in sewer system is started me crazy :P
any hints appreciated
I assume the drawings around in the sewer indicate for something, or not?
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Khris on Fri 10/08/2012 15:55:18
David:
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In each starting room there's a drawing of Notre Dame with a word or words below. In the first room, it's NOOSES. Like it says on the sign in the hotel, in French, "west" is spelled "ouest", thus O = west. So from the first actual maze room, go north, west, west, south, east, south.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: david on Fri 10/08/2012 16:00:10
Quote from: Khris on Fri 10/08/2012 15:55:18
David:
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In each starting room there's a drawing of Notre Dame with a word or words below. In the first room, it's NOOSES. Like it says on the sign in the hotel, in French, "west" is spelled "ouest", thus O = west. So from the first actual maze room, go north, west, west, south, east, south.
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Hey Khris, thanks :D
I was wondering why those silly phrases in the hotel, apparently silly me
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Fri 10/08/2012 18:48:39
 ok  one more
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I cant reach the heart from where i am
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Sslaxx on Fri 10/08/2012 21:40:04
Quote from: The Hero on Fri 10/08/2012 18:48:39
ok  one more
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I cant reach the heart from where i am
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In your hotel room, did you check the dresser? If you did, did you take a closer look at what you found?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Gord10 on Fri 10/08/2012 22:12:58
Quote from: The Hero on Thu 09/08/2012 19:19:14
@dbuske
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there is a reason Percy is behind the door try talking to him
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Quote from: dbuske on Thu 09/08/2012 19:14:14
I couldn't get by the guy with the gun in the beginning.  Have to get back to thee game.
Only played 10 minutes.
I'm stuck in the same place.

I have applied The Hero's solution, but I need the rest of it. In other words,
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What should I do after PQJ smashes him by door?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: The Hero on Fri 10/08/2012 22:48:26
@dbuske
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hit him  with the statue on the table
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: LRH on Sat 11/08/2012 01:39:01
I'm also having trouble
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in the church. I've got the hanger and I've bent it into a hook shape. However, when I try using it on the statue chest, nothing happens. Am I supposed to be doing something else entirely?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Igor Hardy on Sat 11/08/2012 01:49:53
Quote from: Domithan on Sat 11/08/2012 01:39:01
I'm also having trouble
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in the church. I've got the hanger and I've bent it into a hook shape. However, when I try using it on the statue chest, nothing happens. Am I supposed to be doing something else entirely?
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Yes. The hanger trick is for later. Just explore and experiment with the environment.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: LRH on Sat 11/08/2012 01:53:12
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: mkennedy on Sat 11/08/2012 08:32:18
Stuck at the pub on day 1.

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Ordered the drink three times, fourth time I pass out and the game ends. Is the glass needed for anything?
Asked about the meals ordered and used the meals on the dumbwaiter but not sure which meal works. I tried the shepherd's pie and jaffa cakes since the bartender mentioned them, but not sure what to do for desert as I think I tried the 3 choices but got no result when putting the meal in the dumbwaiter. Tried talking to the door in the backroom and to the window outside the pub.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Igor Hardy on Sat 11/08/2012 09:57:04
Quote from: mkennedy on Sat 11/08/2012 08:32:18
Stuck at the pub on day 1.

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Ordered the drink three times, fourth time I pass out and the game ends. Is the glass needed for anything?
Asked about the meals ordered and used the meals on the dumbwaiter but not sure which meal works. I tried the shepherd's pie and jaffa cakes since the bartender mentioned them, but not sure what to do for desert as I think I tried the 3 choices but got no result when putting the meal in the dumbwaiter. Tried talking to the door in the backroom and to the window outside the pub.
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Focus on the dumbwaiter and the info on what the guy above ordered. No special items are needed.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Stupot on Sat 11/08/2012 15:23:43
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I know I'm probably just being an idiot here (it took me nearly an hour to work out how to straighten the coat hanger :-\), but can anyone give me a hint as to how to get rid of the 'cataflic' guy?  I can't work out how to get past him... arrrgh!
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Cheers.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: reem on Sat 11/08/2012 16:27:19
Stupot+:

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You need to distract him. If only you could fool him into going to look through that extra doorway...
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The answer to this is actually a kind of a pixel hunt; I also missed it the first time. In the second intersection there are some pebbles on the ground. Once you find them, you can just throw them through the doorway and the cataflic guy will follow the sounds, but those pebbles are really, really easy to miss. I think this was probably one of the hardest parts of the game.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: mkennedy on Sat 11/08/2012 23:20:17
Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 11/08/2012 09:57:04
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Focus on the dumbwaiter and the info on what the guy above ordered. No special items are needed.
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Are the jaffa cakes the only one I got right? I didn't see pheasant, quiche, and juice, or quail and jellies, or prawns and quesadilla listed on the menu. Also when the bartender said he ordered the pie does he mean the shepherd's pie or is he talking about something else? Everything I've tried putting in the dumbwaiter just comes back down empty.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Igor Hardy on Sat 11/08/2012 23:33:08
Quote from: mkennedy on Sat 11/08/2012 23:20:17
Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 11/08/2012 09:57:04
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Focus on the dumbwaiter and the info on what the guy above ordered. No special items are needed.
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Are the jaffa cakes the only one I got right? I didn't see pheasant, quiche, and juice, or quail and jellies, or prawns and quesadilla listed on the menu. Also when the bartender said he ordered the pie does he mean the shepherd's pie or is he talking about something else? Everything I've tried putting in the dumbwaiter just comes back down empty.
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Unfortunately (for you :)) this puzzle is all made out of red herrings and the challenge lies in noticing what is actually important in the orders. HINT: Take notice that the bartender specifically mentions they don't have even half of the stuff the guy in the room above ordered.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: mkennedy on Sun 12/08/2012 00:35:31
Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 11/08/2012 23:33:08
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Unfortunately (for you :)) this puzzle is all made out of red herrings and the challenge lies in noticing what is actually important in the orders. HINT: Take notice that the bartender specifically mentions they don't have even half of the stuff the guy in the room above ordered.
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Finally solved this one thanks
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I sent up the blood sausage and jaffa cakes without any desert and got a key. Since I didn't see the sausage in the list of ordered food that was the one was giving me problems
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: AMFS on Sun 12/08/2012 05:20:19
Feeling stupid here, but what i should do after the sewer part, in the beginning of the 'OSSUAIRE' place? 
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: reem on Sun 12/08/2012 12:08:24
AMFS:

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In the second crossroads, before the Ossuaire, just look around for clues similar to the ones that led you through the sewer part. In general, it's a good idea to examine that whole room very carefully.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: AMFS on Sun 12/08/2012 21:13:33
Thanks.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: mkennedy on Sun 12/08/2012 22:36:11
Stuck again in the pub, still on day one.

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The task is now to find "weird locations" for the guy in the bar. Am I correct in assuming that I'm to use the computer in the library to look something up?
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Igor Hardy on Mon 13/08/2012 00:49:49
Quote from: mkennedy on Sun 12/08/2012 22:36:11
Stuck again in the pub, still on day one.

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The task is now to find "weird locations" for the guy in the bar. Am I correct in assuming that I'm to use the computer in the library to look something up?
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No, just go for a walk and do some pixel-hunting.
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: KatieHal on Wed 15/08/2012 04:27:32
Having a lot of fun playing the game--but I'm stuck at a spot and I think my problem may be that I missed an item. Help is appreciated! Non-direct help is even better, but I could use a nudge. :)

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I'm in the car chase with Otto--I've figured out I can toss magazine pages on the pursuing car, but that's not enough to get rid of them, and nothing else I have has any effect. My inventory is money, the magazine, the Coach & Horses key, and Rosenquist's business card.
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Nevermind! I got it! :)
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: david on Wed 15/08/2012 10:21:33
Quote from: KatieHal on Wed 15/08/2012 04:27:32
Having a lot of fun playing the game--but I'm stuck at a spot and I think my problem may be that I missed an item. Help is appreciated! Non-direct help is even better, but I could use a nudge. :)

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I'm in the car chase with Otto--I've figured out I can toss magazine pages on the pursuing car, but that's not enough to get rid of them, and nothing else I have has any effect. My inventory is money, the magazine, the Coach & Horses key, and Rosenquist's business card.
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Nevermind! I got it! :)

sorry, I just realized that you've figured it out already...

just out of curiosity how to delete the reply to the message? I can't seem to find any appropriate button for that action
Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: mkennedy on Wed 22/08/2012 08:05:38
Good game, got through all the endings and thanks for all the hints, just one thing though
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was there no way to avenge Simon? I felt kind of bad just letting Max go after he killed my best friend. Some sort of comeuppance would have been nice.
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Title: Re: Ben Jordan Case 8
Post by: Shadow1000 on Wed 22/08/2012 20:01:09
Quote from: thepr on Wed 08/08/2012 20:29:57
By the way, has anyone found a use for
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the dog-head shaped key
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Where do you find that? From the description I would assume that it's for the
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door in the ossuary
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Never mind...someone posted where to find it...got and I know where to use it.

SHADOW