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Title: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: poc301 on Fri 18/12/2009 15:52:24
I am stuck on the Order of Things puzzle..  I was thinking it meant to walk to the rooms in order they are "laid out" or something, so I went from room to room using the buildings in the background and their relative position as a marker, but that didnt seem to work..

Help?

Thanks,

Bill
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: ThreeOhFour on Fri 18/12/2009 15:58:51
Hehe

This is my favourite puzzle  :D

First of all

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Everything you need to solve each puzzle with is contained in that puzzle's room - so you don't need to leave the park to solve the puzzle. Talk to the girl again and see what she tells you.
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If you still don't get it:

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Try talking to the other characters. One of them might provide some insight, though his clue will also be cryptic
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If you're bored of working out my puzzles, and need a direct-ish answer:

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Click on the various hotspots around the park. !, Robot will say something and the girl will reply. The key to the order of things is in her reply
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If you just want the plain old answer straight out-ish

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The last word of the girl's reply for each thing should tell you what you need to do in each order
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And if you don't get it with that ;):

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Click on the blanket, city, tree and then picnic basket in that order
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Enjoy :D
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: poc301 on Fri 18/12/2009 16:08:29
I got it based on your first reply.  I missed the little thing which gives it away :)

Good game so far Ben, thanks!

-Bill
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: IndieBoy on Fri 18/12/2009 16:53:14
I don't seem to get the whole battle scene yet. I have been trying to solve it for half an hour. Maybe I'll just sleep on it and try again. Although a little hint would be nice.
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: ThreeOhFour on Fri 18/12/2009 17:05:56
This is a hard one, I agree. Sadly, it's kinda hard to give you a hint without completely ruining it.

It should be fairly obvious but:

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One of the lines will work each time, and the other two will not. There's no set order - it's worked out with randoms, so don't bother trying to look for a sequence. Instead, look at the three lines you have each time and see if you can spot something that one has that the other 2 do not.
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Sadly, the next hint I have is going to pretty much be a complete spoiler:

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Think about the game's title
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Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Leon on Fri 18/12/2009 17:30:32
It reminded me of the Shivah!
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It had the same technique.. but with another punctuation mark... ?!
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Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: IndieBoy on Fri 18/12/2009 17:44:13
Evil, ben. Very evil. But good. ;D
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: poc301 on Fri 18/12/2009 17:50:22
Ahhh...  The rap battle thing makes sense now.  I just didnt get it before.

-Bill
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 18/12/2009 18:10:39
Quote from: Leon on Fri 18/12/2009 17:30:32
It reminded me of the Shivah!
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It had the same technique.. but with another punctuation mark... ?!
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Same here :)
This can't be coincidence. I feel a schema behind this.
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Galen on Fri 18/12/2009 20:10:52
How do I phone people? I don't understand what to do :(
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Leon on Fri 18/12/2009 20:13:32
Press all buttons in sequence. Look carefully at the name.
Swap two buttons and look at who answers next. This should help you to figure out what 'number' to dial.
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 18/12/2009 20:14:11
Quote from: Crazy on Fri 18/12/2009 20:10:52
How do I phone people? I don't understand what to do :(

Low spoiler hint first:
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Remember the name that soda girl gave you. Better write it somewhere and keep before your eyes.
Start calling random numbers. Observe people names. This may give you some clue
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High spoiler hint:
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Each phone key match certain letter of alphabet.
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Killer spoiler:
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2-4-3-1
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Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: ThreeOhFour on Fri 18/12/2009 21:41:56
Quote from: Leon on Fri 18/12/2009 17:30:32
It reminded me of the Shivah!
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It had the same technique.. but with another punctuation mark... ?!
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Actually, wasn't the Shivah based on
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the word "God" instead
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?

Whatever the case, as soon as I designed the puzzle, I too went "Aww man, that's just like in The Shivah :(" but then I remembered I liked that puzzle heaps when I was playing the game so I decided to keep it anyway.

I actually mentioned that I was doing a rap battle for a game to Dave and he said "Anything like the religious battle in The Shivah?" and I replied with something like "It's shamelessly similar  :=".

And if we're drawing comparisons to other AGS games, the pants fally down bit is just like at the end of How Many, which I also realized after putting it into the game. At least it looks like I'm paying homage to two cool AGS games  8)
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Leon on Fri 18/12/2009 22:28:54
Quote from: Ben304 on Fri 18/12/2009 21:41:56
Actually, wasn't the Shivah based on
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the word "God" instead
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?

Nope, it was the fact that Jewish people Rabbi
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always say things as questions.
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Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Quinny on Mon 21/12/2009 12:48:00
Thanks for letting me know there was a puzzle at the end. I just happened to click on all the right answers in my first go! :)
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Wed 23/12/2009 14:09:50
Hah!  Brilliant, Ben.  The solution to the last puzzle was stupidly simple and yet extremely subtle. I really liked the style and look of the thing.  The movement between the various scenes was quite slick indeed.  Very well made!

-Dave
Title: Re: Ben's new game : ! - Order of things?
Post by: ThreeOhFour on Thu 24/12/2009 10:39:57
Hehe thanks Dave :D