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Title: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Arvhus Hoth on Fri 29/08/2008 05:58:26
I can't seem to be able to challenge Issur to an arm-wrestling match, due to some reason, are there any particular actions I should carry out... (Most of the other stuff I got)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: TheJBurger on Fri 29/08/2008 07:09:54
Use the mouth icon on yourself. You should be able to challenge him from there.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Arvhus Hoth on Sat 30/08/2008 07:39:20
Thanks a lot! Anyway managed that now the only problem is beating Issur, I can't beat him with a strength of 132! LOL maybe I need greater strength.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Secret Fawful on Sun 31/08/2008 20:56:45
Never mind as far as #1.

Never mind for #2. I am an idiot. I thought you could just do this on any day.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Mon 01/09/2008 11:37:29
You can challenge him on any day, but before you can challenge him, he'll have to tell you that he likes to arm wrestle and that you're welcome to try and take him on.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: .M.M. on Thu 04/09/2008 13:34:04
I know that this is really silly problem, but I am not able to change my gold coins on anything else at the moneychanger! How do I have to do it?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: agentbauer on Thu 04/09/2008 14:56:13
First of all, great game, I love Quest for Glory.  And this remake is wonderful. :D
I finished the game as fighter, and I wanted to become a Paladin....

I got 176 Honor points, but that was not enough.
How many Honor points do I need to become a paladin?

@Mirek
Your money change problem. Click with the talk icon on yourself and choose exchange money when you are near Dinarzad (the moneychanger). That should work.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: mdyoung40 on Thu 04/09/2008 16:12:11
i went in as a wizard,when i take my test at wit i can't get past wall,i target the wall then use the calm spell,and can't get over the wall.helppppp,pleaseee.thanks for the help.than you erpy.next problem is the iceburg,i used the flame bolt and split it in half then i used the thunder bolt on the split twice,then i was thrown out.why? helppp
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Storygamer on Fri 05/09/2008 19:31:54
Probably a stupid question--but how do I get
Spoiler
incense from Harik?
[close]
I'm at the point now where I'm about to need it.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: TheJBurger on Fri 05/09/2008 22:09:48
Quote from: Storygamer on Fri 05/09/2008 19:31:54
Probably a stupid question--but how do I get
Spoiler
incense from Harik?
[close]
I'm at the point now where I'm about to need it.

If that's the part where you need it to
Spoiler
destroy an elemental
[close]
I think you need to use the mouth icon on yourself and tell him about the elemental. I can't remember.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Sat 06/09/2008 12:11:57
You have enough honor points to become a paladin, but you must refrain from doing anything that would disqualify you. (finish off helpless opponents, steal stuff, peep on ladies)

As for the fire elemental, talk to Harik about it. (it's in his daily news section) Or ask him about it straight out through the parser.

To get over the calmed earth wall, just click the hand on it.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Thu 11/09/2008 09:49:43
By the way I should mention that I found it easier to use a combination of the text parser type conversations with the clickable type because there are some topics which must be brought up but cannot be and hence one can simply enter it into the text parser area (pssst... this is similar for incense, then you can buy it from him)... I don't know whether this is a mistake and it might be because one also does not get options to ask Aziza about elementals or julanar (the tree woman... you know...)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Thu 11/09/2008 10:25:19
Yeah, parser can be used as a shortcut to bring up topics that have to be found in the dialogue tree otherwise, but the relevant topics are in there nevertheless.

Incense appears in a subbranch of the fire elemental topic.

The elementals are a branch of the daily news topic, but only after they actually show up. Likewise, Julanar appears in Aziza's daily news topic, as well as her desert topic, after you've been told about the fruit of compassion or after you've seen the tree in the desert yourself.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Mr. Mozzarella on Sun 14/09/2008 20:51:39
I'm playing this game on a laptop (which is probably murder to my keyboard) so I had to change the keys for the fighting. But when I try to fight against the warrior girl, I can't attack her. I put the attacking moves to 7 and 9 but when I press these keys, nothing happens. Is that normal, am I not supposed to attack her, or is this some kind of bug that other keys won't work?  ???
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Mon 15/09/2008 19:47:12
Is it possible you're in the combat tutorial? (it gets offered the first time you challenge her and you might have clicked the top choice instinctively) In the battle tutorial, only the moves you're supposed to do at that point actually do something. Other than that, I have no clue. If a button works for one fight, it should work for all of them.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Shrekgrinch on Mon 22/09/2008 00:22:23
Quote from: Mirek on Thu 04/09/2008 13:34:04
I know that this is really silly problem, but I am not able to change my gold coins on anything else at the moneychanger! How do I have to do it?

Drag your money bag to the Moneychanger.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Shrekgrinch on Mon 22/09/2008 00:24:44
Ok, I'm in Aziza's.  But when I type in 'yes' or 'tea' when she asks me for tea, it doesn't work and she gets mad and throws me out.  Any hints?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Mon 22/09/2008 00:46:49
There are two different menu's for interacting with other characters. The first one is the "ask about"-menu, which lets your hero ask the character for information about subjects and is accessed by clicking the mouth on the character. The other one is the "tell about"-menu, which lets your hero give answers and tell NPC's about certain subjects. This one is accessed by clicking the mouth cursor on the hero. You need the second one in order to tell Aziza that you'd like to drink tea with her.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Renodox on Thu 25/09/2008 17:54:33
Quotei went in as a wizard,when i take my test at wit i can't get past wall,i target the wall then use the calm spell,and can't get over the wall.helppppp,pleaseee.thanks for the help.than you erpy.next problem is the iceburg,i used the flame bolt and split it in half then i used the thunder bolt on the split twice,then i was thrown out.why? helppp

Don't know if you got past this but for the wall, make sure you've cast trigger on it BEFORE you cast calm.  Otherwise, it won't do anything.

As for the iceburg, it sounds like you may have run out of magic.  Of course, I am assuming that you are kicked out of WIT.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sat 27/09/2008 14:17:24
Do you have to have Magic skills to finish the game


got the fruit of compasion and the feather but doesnt seem i can give it to Harik so he can make a dispel potion for the beast


Im a fighter with 0 in magic.

Cant i not buy a potion because of this or do i miss some conversations?


thanks in advance
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sat 27/09/2008 15:55:36
JT, if you are a fighter, then you do not need any magic skills.
Harik needs a reason to make dispel potion for you.

Spoiler
Have you found beast in the desert yet?  If so, then tell Harik about it.  ;)
[close]

Hope that helps you.   :)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 30/09/2008 09:55:46
This WOULD be a great game if that idiot ERPY had nothing to do with it!!! I have tried several times to beat the stupid wrestling guy and he keeps asking for 10 dinars for the bellows!!! Why did you jerks take away the cheat codes!!! That is messed up!!! Also you guys need to fix your website as when you enter it, you aren't able to click on anything!!!! Don't you idiots know what you are doin!!! The only games I don't have problems with is your remakes of King's Quest 1 and 2
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Tue 30/09/2008 10:12:18
Quote from: colonel on Tue 30/09/2008 09:55:46
This WOULD be a great game if that idiot ERPY had nothing to do with it!!! I have tried several times to beat the stupid wrestling guy and he keeps asking for 10 dinars for the bellows!!! Why did you jerks take away the cheat codes!!! That is messed up!!! Also you guys need to fix your website as when you enter it, you aren't able to click on anything!!!! Don't you idiots know what you are doin!!! The only games I don't have problems with is your remakes of King's Quest 1 and 2

There's no need to be so rude, colonel.  If you drop the attitude, I may help you.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 30/09/2008 10:18:46
Well, I am sick and tired of things not working!! The whole idea of leaving the cheat codes in would be to help those who can't or who arent able to do things like everyone else!!! So how do I get the wrestling jerk to give me his bellows?! I have wasted all of my money trying to wrestle with him and I still need to stop the wind elemental. If you guys had left the "suck blue frog" cheat in the game then I could beat him and get the bellows, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You guys just had to take out the cheat code!!! WHY????????????
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 30/09/2008 10:52:05
Ok, well since no one is willing to help me, then maybe someone can send me a save game file after the fighter gets the bellows. Because of the fact that the cheat codes have been removed, why I don't know, I would say that this is the part that everyone is stuck at. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Tue 30/09/2008 14:13:04
You don't need cheat codes to complete the game.

If you ask nicely, maybe people would be more inclined to help.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 30/09/2008 19:27:04
The cheat codes would help me beat the guy at wrestling so I could get the bellows. I can't beat him otherwise.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Wed 01/10/2008 08:40:33
A couple of things:

- If I had had nothing to do with the game, it wouldn't have been a great game. It wouldn't have been completed. I did close to 50% of the scripting, if not more.

- We didn't take out the cheat codes. The debug options in the remake allow for even more messing around than the original game. But they must be unlocked, which involves completing the game under certain (secret) circumstances. The reason the debug modes are not accessable from the get-go is simple...debug modes allow people to break the game and ignore the usual checks. We wanted people to play the game the way it was meant to be played first, so all the bugs reported would be genuine bugs and not stuff that popped up because people messed with the game using debug options.

- In order to beat Issur: Make sure your strength is between 140 and 150 or so. Make sure your stamina is filled to the max because it'll be draining during the course of the match and if it's too low, you automatically lose. Keep increasing the pressure and hold back his slams so he wastes his own stamina. (you can tell you're holding him back because the arms aren't trembling)

- If your strength is too low, practice it. Throwing rocks or daggers is a good way to get it up. Alternatively, you can practice combat and focus on attacking. Dodging a lot in battle increases agility, which ups your stamina maximum.

- Save before challenging him and restore if you lose. No reason to waste obscene amounts of money on him.

- If you're not a fighter class, there are other ways to obtain the bellows.

- Practice your communication. Not your in-game skill, the real-life version. Calling people names is bad for your honor.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Wed 01/10/2008 17:31:02
Ok, thankyou and I apologize. Anychance you guys will fix your website and make a walkthrough for this game?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Wed 01/10/2008 19:40:21
You can find walkthrough here - http://www.reloaded.org/download/Quest-For-Glory-II-Trial-By-Fire-Remake/410/

Scroll down, and look at the 'Extras' bit. 
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Wed 01/10/2008 20:03:13
In addition, Cyricz has created a very comprehensive FAQ/walkthrough for the game that's available on www.gamefaqs.com

It contains just about everything there is to know about the game, including some of the hidden stuff.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: AGD2 on Thu 02/10/2008 07:08:31
The website's not broken, it requires IE7 or one of the later versions of FireFox to take advantage of some features.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: SSH on Thu 02/10/2008 13:01:22
Quote from: AGD2 on Thu 02/10/2008 07:08:31
The website's not broken, it requires IE7 or one of the later versions of FireFox to take advantage of some features.

In IE6 the "Download the game" button doesn't work. Is this one of the features that IE6 users can't take advantage of?  ;D
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Mon 20/10/2008 04:37:06
Okay, quick question about beating Issur at arm wrestling. I've always wondered: do you hold down the left arrow to increase pressure, then hold down the space bar to attempt to slam, or do you tap the buttons repeatedly at the appropriate time? ALso, I don't get "decrease pressure" and "hold opponent." At the point you're about to be slammed, no real point of going on about it. Just lose and start over.

Any help?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Mon 20/10/2008 13:07:36
You can increase pressure by either quickly tapping or holding the left arrow. You don't have to hold space to slam, just tapping it once is enough, as it takes some cycles. Holding your position is basically trying to defend against Issur's slams (which he effectively pulls off non-stop) and letting him wear his stamina down. There's no real in-game purpose of decreasing pressure, since Issur won't ever decrease his own either.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sat 25/10/2008 21:38:30
You guys left out the caged beast! I have been walking in the desert from the dervish for hours and cannot find the caged beast! Also the dervish won't answer the puzzle question or the caged beast question! What gives!? And I am still angry about you guys taking out the suck blue frog cheat system! The wrestling thing, just be a magic user and steal the bellows. I imported a complete theif, fighter, and magic user from the original quest for glory 1 and since I have all of their abilities I am able to use fetch at night to get the bellows since MR. Erpy and his team think it is ok to play THEIR game without the suck blue frog cheat! If I was on the team I would have insisted on leaving that cheat in, so the fans could actually win! But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Lets give the fans a game that is unbeatable and make everyone wait for a frickin walkthrough! MAKE THE GAME THE WAY SIERRA DID! oR DON'T BOTHER MAKING IT AT ALL! When is the walkthrough coming out? In a frickin, year or five?! So anyone who reads this, the caged beast doesn't exist in their game and they have made this game way too difficult! Atleast with the Sierra games, they had walkthroughs that actually got you through the game. And if they mentioned a caged beast, oh my god, it actually existed!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sat 25/10/2008 21:53:30
I see your communication skills still needs a LOT of work, colonel.

1.  The caged beast is still there - exactly like the original.
2.  Loads of people have completed the game without this blue frog cheat.  There is no need to cheat.
3.  I have already given you link to walkthrough.  Erpy gave you another link to walkthrough.
4.  Erpy and the team did a fantastic job.
5.  Cut the attitude.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sun 26/10/2008 01:55:27
Where is the caged beast? According to the map you are supposed to go three screens south from the griffin screen. and screen east. When I did that I ended up in a scene with no caged beast! So where is the caged beast? Does it only show up on a paticular day? If so, that is dumb as with Sierra's QFG2 it is there no matter what day it is! And the whole thing about arm wrestling for the bellows is a joke! I want to cheat in this game and in Sierra's QFG2 the cheat code helps in situations like this. Is there another cheat code? If so what is it?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sun 26/10/2008 03:21:10
Why don't you try reading the walkthrough again, and this time, read it correctly.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sun 26/10/2008 05:33:31
I love AGS and you guys
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Pumaman on Sun 26/10/2008 11:42:36
Colonel97062, the minimum age for using these forums is 16. If you are unable to act like an adult, then please refrain from posting here. This is your final warning.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Sun 26/10/2008 15:29:55
The caged beast (and the Dervish' answers about it) are activated on day 12 and not sooner. Just like in the original game. (contrary to your claim) The reason for this is the fact that until day 12, there is no way you can solve the beast puzzle and you'd be forced to visit it each day afterwards in order to prevent it from dying while you wait for the missing item to become available.

As for the debug mode, you can only unlock it by completing the game with max points and a certain hidden item in your inventory.  Afterwards, you'll be able to cheat to your heart's content. BTW, for all the noise, the debug codes were taken out of QFG1 as well when that game was remade (naughty, naughty Sierra) and QFG3, QFG4 and QFG5 didn't have any debug modes at all. (bad, naughty, evil Sierra)

And yes, there IS another cheat mode referred to as "battle mode" that has some combat-specific features that cannot be used through the ordinary debug mode. Unfortunately, this one must be unlocked by finishing the game with perfect score and a certain secret item in your inventory as well. So no cheats for you during the first playthrough. Boy, does life suck or what?

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sun 26/10/2008 20:30:52
Making the fans beat your game with a perfect score then allowing them the cheat code is dumb! Who is the idiot that thought up that one? You? The game cannot be beat with a perfect score! I myself played through and got 493 of the 500 points! I had to steal the bellows from the wrestler because my stats weren't high enough to get them anyother way. This is the worst game that AGD has come out with! Their King's Quest 1 and 2 were done wonderfully, but this game truly sucked! But then again, the entire Quest for Glory franchise of games was pretty stupid anyway! I think I will stick to the REAL Sierra quest games. King's Quest, Police Quest, Space Quest, and of course Leisure Suit Larry. Why do you guy do these dumb easter eggs and hidden things. No one can find them and all you are doing is wasting people's time!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sun 26/10/2008 20:32:39
Quote from: Colonel97062 on Sun 26/10/2008 05:33:31
I love AGS and you guys

Whoever wrote the above, misquoted me, and I could sue for that! DON'T EVER MISQUOTE ME AGAIN!

I HATE AGS AND THE IDIOTS THAT MADE THIS GAME!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sun 26/10/2008 20:39:21
Quote from: Pumaman on Sun 26/10/2008 11:42:36
Colonel97062, the minimum age for using these forums is 16. If you are unable to act like an adult, then please refrain from posting here. This is your final warning.


If the idiots that made this game made is possible to cheat with a stupid perfect score and if that loser Erpy hadn't worked on it, then maybe I wouldn't get so mad! Sierra didn't make you beat their QFG2 with a perfect score before allowing the cheat code to work, why do you all think it is ok for your game to be like that?

And if you ever take something out that I wrote and then make up lies about what I said again, I will sue!

I HATE AGS, ERPY, AND THE IDIOTS THAT MADE THIS GAME! All you had to do was improve the graphics, keep the game the same as Sierra had it! But no, you all made it worse and added crap that no one can find! Then you all make it so that in order to use the cheat code, you have to have a perfect score! Thats really dumb, since there is no way to beat the game with a perfect score! If there is, then provide the save games for the perfect score and I will apologize. But until then, this game sucks and you all did a horrible job on it! The only thing I liked about it was the new graphics, everything else was dumb and sucked!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Sun 26/10/2008 22:13:56
Now that's where you're wrong, it makes perfect sense. If a person has beaten the game many times before and has unlocked the debug mode, it makes sense that upon replaying some time later, he wants to play through the game a little faster and occasionally blue-frog his stats up in order to keep stat raising to the absolute minimum. There's nothing wrong with that. I do object to someone who plays through the game for the first time using debug features to rush past things. It took a lot of time to make the game. The respectful thing to do would be to invest a little bit of your own time in going through it.

And yes, the game can be beaten with perfect score. Many people have done it. There's even a guy on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXFq4FmYlqE) who recorded a fighter playthrough of the game and beating Issur at arm wrestling, even without using the hold back option. (so you can apologize now as I'd see that as obvious proof) As a fighter, you get 7 points for beating Issur at arm wrestling, which is why you didn't get 500 out of 500. Now, in the time you've been crying over this, you could have raised your strength up to 155 to 160 or so and beat the Issur yourself. Stats play a bigger role than anything else.

And yeah, people do find hidden things. Most of the hidden features have been found during the first month. Most people liked them too.

As for the rest of your tempter tantrum, it's obviously coming down to this: "I suck at something, but rather than admit this to myself and face the fact I'm not perfect, I'll go and throw abuse at the developers in order to preserve my oh-so-fragile ego." I only have one thing to say to that. Cry me a river and get over it.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Pumaman on Sun 26/10/2008 23:07:33
Quote from: colonel97062 on Sun 26/10/2008 20:39:21
I HATE AGS, ERPY, AND THE IDIOTS THAT MADE THIS GAME!

Ok ok, look I'm sorry that daddy didn't buy you the new bike that you wanted for your birthday, but that's no reason to get mad at Erpy. When you've finished throwing things at the teacher and beating up your younger sister, maybe you'll have managed to release enough anger to be able to leave your house and face the outside world.

Anyway, you've left me with no option other than to ban you from posting here for a while. As you hate us all so much, I'm hoping that you won't mind this and that it won't wind up your blood pressure to the point where you have a heart attack.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Mon 27/10/2008 08:55:19
For what it's worth Erpy, most of us appreciate all the work you guys put into this game.   :)

Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Mon 27/10/2008 09:22:00
I know. I was just having a little go at him for being a crybaby.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: mihalis on Mon 27/10/2008 18:03:08
I am unable to cast spells or perform any actions other than with my sword during battle.  I have even tried resetting the associated keys to different ones (A,S,D,W, etc), but I am still having the same problem.  Any pointers?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Mon 27/10/2008 22:06:09
If you're a fighter, you must store your shield in the chest in your room, since you need one free hand to cast magic. Also, you can't use flame dart, force bolt and dagger throwing in melee range, you must back off first.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Thu 30/10/2008 06:57:00
Ok. Now that I am able to write again on this forum, I have a question. Forst of all, I was able to beast the wrestler. I was also able to obtain the bellows from him without stealing it. So in order to get the blue frog, I am wondering on what days it is there with the dervish? I got the bellows on day 8. So what day after day 8 will the blue frog be at the dervish scene? It is a pain for me to go everysingle day after day 8, so if you just tell me the day I can get the blue frog, that would be great! I have also defeated the air elemental, that is in my opinion why I had to wait until day 8 to get the bellows. Right? Or as the fighter, could I have gotten the bellows sooner without stealing it?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Thu 06/11/2008 13:18:10
The blue frog appears randomly in the oasis screen. If it's not there, leave and come back. In order to actually catch it you must use the bellows on it before you capture the air elemental. (afterwards, it's no longer possible) So the ideal time would be to get it after getting the bellows but before going over to the palace plaze to take care of old blowhard. That's the only window of opportunity you have if you're not gonna steal it. You can beat Issur at wrestling before day 8, but he won't give you the bellows until you tell him about the air elemental.

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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Thu 06/11/2008 22:21:08
Ok. Thanks. I actually solved my own question about all this that same day.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: shameenkatta on Wed 12/11/2008 17:31:37
okay so how do I kill the fire elemental? I'm having fun but keep dying!  :'(
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Wed 12/11/2008 22:20:29
To beat the Fire Elemental, you need to:

Spoiler
Ask Aziza about FIRE ELEMENTAL, then COTNRARY ELEMENT. 

Now go to Apothecary and ask about FIRE ELEMENTAL, then FLAME.  Get INCENSE from him, then leave.

Make sure you have LAMP from brass merchant (opposite Magic Shop).

Jump to gate plaza, where the Fire Elemental is, and click INCENSE on it, so it will follow you.  Now drop LAMP on the ground.  Use a waterskin on Fire Elemental, and it will jump into the lamp. 

Voila! 
[close]

Hope that helps.   :)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 25/11/2008 13:19:32
I'm enjoying this video  game.  My computer did something weird and I had kill the earth elemental twice.  Now I'm having trouble with the tree in the desert.  I get prompted for each step until I hug the tree and try to tell her name and there is no way to accomplish that.  There is no prompting dialogue or direction and no way to even bring it up.  Is it just my machine malfunction that is acting up or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Tue 25/11/2008 14:48:30
Betty, if you want to TELL something (rather than ASKING), just click Mouth Icon on yourself, and then type in 'Julaner'   ;)

Title: Can't FIGHT in QFG2 on laptop
Post by: on Sat 20/12/2008 09:32:43
Problem with FIGHTING:


I'm playing the Quest for Glory II remake on a laptop, Dell Inspiron with Windows XP

Everything works fine except for a big problem, I can't get the hero to fight or to dodge.  the only thing he can do is move forward or backwards by pressing the up or down arrows.  the left and right arrows have no effect, and I don't have a button that makes him attack (so he just stands there taking damage, not dodging,  until I finally run away)

It's very frustrating as I played this back in the 90's and never had a problem like this

I've tried playing with Numlock on/off
Any suggestions?
As you realize I can't get far without being able to fight, can't go out into the desert or anything

thanks
L
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sat 20/12/2008 13:15:55
Hey LM   :)

Have you done the tutorial with Uhura?  She teaches you how to fight.

You have to use the number pad.  If I remember correctly, 7 & 9 are Attack buttons.   ;)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sat 20/12/2008 19:47:29
Thanks for replying!

But I don't have a number pad, I'm on a laptop


Hitting the regular numbers on the top row has no effect
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sat 20/12/2008 21:50:04
I think you can redefine combat keys through the options menu.   :)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA fighting on laptop
Post by: on Mon 22/12/2008 02:12:35
great!
redefining the keys worked! yay

thanks
I hadn't seen the button before because it was written in grey on grey, kinda hard to read but thanks for pointing it out
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Mon 22/12/2008 02:19:38
Glad to help.   :)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Sun 04/01/2009 21:02:29
Does anyone know whether the frog still appears after you've unlocked the debug mode?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Dilbert on Mon 12/01/2009 12:24:11
Great game, but I had the following problem at the end.  Spoiler alert.

When playing the game as a thief, the ending doesn't go quite like the walkthrough suggests.  When I try and break into the palace and head left on the top floor, instead of going to the harem I end up on a balcony that looks over the room where Khaveen is standing guard.  Can anyone suggest what I should be doing differently or how I can defeat Khaveen and move on?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: AGD2 on Thu 15/01/2009 18:58:49
If you're trying to follow the walkthrough for the EGA game while playing the remake then that explains the discrepancy. The Thief encounter with Khaveen in the Antechamber was not in the original version by Sierra (and thus, the solution won't be mentioned in the old walkthroughs). 

The scene you describe was added to the remake as an alternate method of dealing with Khaveen as a thief. When you're outside the Palace gates, if your thief doesn't have enough throwable projectiles (rocks & daggers) nor a Magic Rope with enough charges to successfully beat Ad Avis after going through the harem, he'll be taken to the Antechamber instead.

The objective here is the same as usual. Deal with Khaveen so that you can get past him and make it through the door to the ritual chamber. As a thief without magic, you'll need to be sneaky and deceptive about it. Watch Khaveen carefully and wait for the right moment.

Keep in mind that if you're forced to go through the Antechamber as a thief, you cannot obtain full game points.

Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Fri 30/01/2009 01:43:30
First, as an old schooler, I loove the fact that you guys remade these games :D  I have to admit, the slow battling is a bit frustrating, but the rest of it is pretty, frickin, sweet.  My question:  Can I do ANYTHING as a thief and still become a paladin?  I imported my QFG1 Fighter and remained a fighter, but am able to do thief quests.  I would love to do them just to do them (get the whole feel for the whole game), but I also want to go Pal in QFG3.

Thanks in advance and thanks again for an AWESOME remake.  I hope you guys wake up every morning, look at yourselves in the mirror, and smile huge, toothy grins while patting yourselves on the back :Op

THANKS!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Erpy on Fri 13/02/2009 16:59:43
Sorry for not replying sooner. There's a bunch of things you shouldn't do in order to become a paladin at the end of QFG2VGA and breaking in is one of them. (it's an instant disqualifier) If you want to get the best of both worlds, I suggest doing thief stuff in QFG2 (make sure to have stealth, lock picking and climbing), finishing the game as a fighter and become a paladin in QFG3. QFG3 has no paladin-exclusive quests, nor does it have any real thief sidequests you'll miss out on (there's very little for the thief to do there) and staying a fighter is harder in that game that becoming a paladin. Then you can carry your QFG3-promoted paladin over to QFG4 and 5 which do have paladin-exclusive quests. The only downer is the fact you won't have any paladin abilities for the biggest part of QFG3.

And slow battle? LOL, most people who didn't like the combat in QFG2VGA thought it was too fast-paced. Or maybe you're playing with some heavy filters.

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashhapy.jpg)
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 10/03/2009 07:15:04
Hey! I'm having a huge problem w/ the text parser in the game. Its impossible for me to type, every time I press a letter (except occasionally if I can tap it very quickly) the letter will repeat itself for the entire line, for example "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" (instead of the word I'm trying to type).

Even using point and click, this presents me from doing things like getting into Aziza's place, where you have to type out full answers to her questions.

help!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Pumaman on Tue 10/03/2009 19:12:59
Last time somebody had that problem, installing the latest version of DirectX from Microsoft's website fixed it.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Mon 23/03/2009 17:58:27
Regarding the laptop issue - I play on one as well.  Is there a function key on yours towards the bottom left of your keyboard (next to control?).  If so, you can hold that and use the following keys for combat which correspond to the number pad: 789 UIO JKL.

I might as well make my signature: Thanks for this awesome game!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Dualnames on Sat 04/04/2009 23:05:06
I've being playing this again, this time deciding to finish it, and I'm wondering I'm a thief...can you hint me where the thieve's guild is? And if it's not in Shapeir, can you tell me how to go to Raseir?

I have 42 points and I also have a Saurus.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sun 05/04/2009 02:09:18
Dualnames, have you...
Spoiler
visited the money changer yet?  She is Head Thief in the Thieves Guild, lol. 
Just click mouth icon on yourself, and make thief sign to her.   ;)
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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Dualnames on Mon 06/04/2009 15:00:27
Spoiler
I heard from someone(in game character) that she knows where the guild is, but I didn't knew you had to do the sign that way, thanks a lot :D :D
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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Fri 24/04/2009 07:23:38
You need to throw rocks in the desert outside of shapeir to build up your strength for the arm wrestling match.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: poc301 on Fri 24/04/2009 15:35:40
Thief Guild:
Spoiler
There is no guild per se in Shapeir.  Raseir though, thats where the organized fun begins.  Although you can break into various places and fence your goods at the moneychanger, there is no guild in the town.  The only way to get to Raseir is to progress in the game.  You can't just travel there when you want.
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And I haven't even played the VGA remake :)  The old EGA version was my favorite game in the entire world as a kid.  I swear I must've played it 100+ times.

-Bill
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Stace on Tue 02/06/2009 12:56:34
I am at the end of the game using the magic user. Every time i enter the ritual chamber i am killed by the statue. I have tried following the walkthrough completely and it still happens. Please help?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: poc301 on Tue 02/06/2009 13:25:16
Trigger works wonders..

Have you tried that?

-Bill
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Stace on Tue 02/06/2009 13:28:17
Quote from: poc301 on Tue 02/06/2009 13:25:16
Trigger works wonders..

Have you tried that?

-Bill

i cant even get to the spell menu, ad avis starts talking straight away. is it posible i got there too late?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Tue 02/06/2009 15:17:48
Stace, I wrote my own walkthrough for this.  I recommend you reload a game from *before* you enter that room. 

Spoiler
Cast Reversal spell before entering the room  :)
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You can find the full walkthrough at Reloaded.org, but this might help you.   ;)
Spoiler
When you enter the room, the big statue comes to life as you get close to it.  First, CAST TRIGGER on the statue to make it crumble.  Now CAST FETCH on an unlit candle.  This will break Ad Avis' spell.  He is furious, and will use his shape-changing spells on you.  Fortunately, if you have Reversal activated, it will rebound off you.   ;D
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Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Stace on Tue 02/06/2009 16:11:26
Quote from: Frodo on Tue 02/06/2009 15:17:48
Stace, I wrote my own walkthrough for this.  I recommend you reload a game from *before* you enter that room. 

Spoiler
Cast Reversal spell before entering the room  :)
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You can find the full walkthrough at Reloaded.org, but this might help you.   ;)
Spoiler
When you enter the room, the big statue comes to life as you get close to it.  First, CAST TRIGGER on the statue to make it crumble.  Now CAST FETCH on an unlit candle.  This will break Ad Avis' spell.  He is furious, and will use his shape-changing spells on you.  Fortunately, if you have Reversal activated, it will rebound off you.   ;D
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Thanks heaps, I'll give it a go!  ;D
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Wed 10/06/2009 01:10:00
I'm having the same problem as Stace. I have followed the walkthrough exactly. I cast trigger, open, and reverse, then enter the final room. Ad Avis starts speaking, and I cannot go to the spell menu before the statue kills me every time.
I've tried it many times. I don't understand it.
Any help would be appreciated, as the rest of the game has been fine.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Mike19121980 on Fri 12/06/2009 04:09:05
Nevermind guys, I got the answer off another message board. It was simply because my health was too low. I checked and it was only 17. I simply a health pill, and the statue no longer killed me.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Fri 12/06/2009 07:56:32
Glad you solved it.   ;D
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Mon 29/06/2009 20:38:30
Quote from: Mr. Mozzarella on Sun 14/09/2008 20:51:39
I'm playing this game on a laptop (which is probably murder to my keyboard) so I had to change the keys for the fighting. But when I try to fight against the warrior girl, I can't attack her. I put the attacking moves to 7 and 9 but when I press these keys, nothing happens. Is that normal, am I not supposed to attack her, or is this some kind of bug that other keys won't work?  ???

I had to press Num Lock to unlock the numeric keypad keys.  Try doing that.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: xeltul on Sat 25/07/2009 19:15:05
Ok, first of all I love the game!  You guys did a great job re-making it. ;)

Now here is my gripe. ;D  My first time playing I got caught in a dead end right at the beginning. :'(  I imported a fighter and went and changed my money and bought some stuff including the Upgraded sword from Issur.  Then Day 2 the Saurus Salesman comes around and I can't afford to purchase a saurus because I spend my money on a sword. :'(  Which is my fault I know. :-\  So I wanted to go earn some money by fighting monsters.  But battle is so much harder in your game than the original I was unable to Obtain the money before the game kills me for not buying the saurus. :'(  So then I figured I rather than restore a game before I did all the work talking to people and haggling to get communication, I would look on the internet and see if there are any cheats that I could use just to get past this part and then get rid of the cheat and continue.  Then I found this thread telling me that you cant access the cheats until you beat the game with a perfect score. :'(  So I guess I am stuck going back to that saved game back before all that work.

So I guess my gripe is the easy to fall into dead end at the beginning and having to finish the game with a perfect score is a little extreme to get access to the cheat codes.  I could see having to finish the game first or even finish with each class but having to get a perfect score seems extreme.

Sorry if I sound too critical.  I really do like the game and I am enjoying it.  The visuals are beautiful and you did a great job in virtually every aspect of the game.  Thank you for the great job you did! ;D
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Dualnames on Sun 26/07/2009 17:56:52
I have this trouble. I've found the Thieves Guild and all, done some small quests, but from Shapeir, how do we get to Raseir?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: popolon on Sat 14/11/2009 03:32:22
question: i cant seem to use spells in combat, but i can use them when not in combat

i am a fighter is this the cause? can i do anything to work around it?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Frodo on Sat 14/11/2009 09:42:03
Hehe Popolon   :)

As a fighter, you would be better to use weapons for combat.  But before going out into the desert, you need to train a lot, in the training room.  You'll also get a run-down in the training room, of the combat actions you can perform. 

;)

Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: popolon on Sat 14/11/2009 13:36:09
yes. i understand that weapons are best to use for a warrior.

but i gave my warrior magic powers. i can use the magic powers,  but i cant cast zap while in combat, or any other spell

when i play wizard, i can use the fighting controls (numpad) and the spells (QWEASD). i dont see why i cant cast a force bolt with my warrior while in combat, while i can cast force bolt when not in combat.

maybe i'm doing something wrong? i understand the game will be harder maybe, but i chose to play a warrior with magic skills.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: popolon on Sat 14/11/2009 15:34:18
turns out it was the shield - i put in in storage and now i can use spells in combat as well as use the sword :)

great game so far.. ! how do i turn on the lamp btw?
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: on Tue 05/01/2010 15:43:49
Seriously! guys i need help! i have been with str over 145 and decent stam, then in the wrestling match i get the msg that says i attempt to slam his hand to the anvil, then both bars at the top go blank and there it stays its a endless wresting match?

Plzzzzz i need help
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Lasky09 on Wed 10/02/2010 22:07:43
First of all i love the Quest for Glory games, and the QFG2 Remake I find awsome. I played the 4th as a kid and i'm on a mission to work my way from 1 to 5. I'm playing 2 as a fighter. I am in the Dungeoun of Rafier and i don't have the Object to give to the Katta guy there. I think i could have bought it earlier, but i now don't have it and my saved game is too far to go back to shapier. Do i have to start all the way over?   :(
Title: Quest for Glory 2 VGA Wrestle
Post by: Mitchell on Tue 13/04/2010 07:36:27
Who Has Defeated Issur In An Arm Wrestle As A Fighter?
Whoever Has Can You PLEASE Tell Me How Much Strength You Need In Order To Defeat Him  :D
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Sentinel on Fri 16/04/2010 22:34:25
I joined just to say how much I truly and utterly appreciate what the staff at AGS has done. I'd like to be able to say I've played games such as King's Quest, but I never did as a kid. I will say that what I did play almost exclusively was the Quest for Glory series by Sierra, and a few others later like Gabriel Knight. The one I always disliked the most was QFG2 because of the outdated graphics and at the time, I didn't really type all that well (two fingers!).

When I heard you were doing a remake, I could hardly stay in my seat and I downloaded it the moment it was released. Thank you so much!! It's a very wonderful and enjoyable game, the graphics are great and in keeping with the other VGAs of the series, and I must say that I love walking through the streets of Shapier and wondering what I'll see next: clothesline, plants hanging from windows, elaborate doors. One time I even saw someone leap across the tops of the walls!

Really and truly excellent job! Sometimes I do have a bit of bug, like with my fighter. I'd beaten him already in arm-wrestling and then the Air Elemental showed up and even after talking with Keapon, the 'tell about air elemental' didn't show up. However, the 'combination' for menu of parser and point and click came in handy there, so thank you for that too!

I couldn't think of any game that I wanted redone more than QFG2, as a staple of my childhood, and I had the greatest fun in playing a thief in there. The added quests you put in made me never want them to end!
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: AGD2 on Sat 17/04/2010 20:16:38
Psssst.... we're over here:

http://www.agdiforums.com/forum

;D

Thanks for your comments, nonetheless! Glad to know that the 8 years of development were put to (questionably) productive use.  It's also interesting to know that new players are still discovering the remake for the first time.

Regarding the 'bug', did you actually witness the Air Elemental yourself? For some "tell about" topics in the game, there's a knowledge flag where you need to physically see the subject of conversation with your own eyes before it will appear as a "Tell About" topic on the Hero's Point and Click menu trees. From memory, I believe that the Air Elemental is one such topic.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Sentinel on Sat 17/04/2010 20:58:55
heh, oops? XD Response posted on the new forum then.
Title: Re: Quest for Glory 2 VGA
Post by: Ajanhuiri on Wed 15/09/2010 03:12:58
I will reply in a new topic if need be, and will also be responding on the AGD forums.

I cannot laud the efforts of AGD enough; thank you so much. I expect to encounter many problems in the future playing of this game. I anticipate solving most of them myself.

I want to also add a personal note that few others can share. Growing up, I was once a childhood friend of Al Lowe's son (of Leisure Suit Larry). Being a child I had no money, and cheat manuals/walk-through guides required purchase from the bookstore (don't you remember - that's where we bought software!) I remember harassing poor Al regarding nuances of King's Quest IV which he helped to work on. I now am embarrassed of my laziness.

In this age of the internet most answers are readily answered through cordial (and mutual) dialogue. The need to harass developers is in extremely poor taste. The amount of effort that went into this pet project is truly extraordinary.

Back in the day I had character importation problems with QFGII and ended up playing through from scratch starting with that game. It was a good game, but I was sad about my 'weak' character. I am revitalized to try again, and this time, in VGA graphics.

Thank you Erpy, I owe you a case of scotch.