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Title: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: alvdar on Fri 13/03/2009 07:37:05
I'm a bit lost with that game, I thought it would be as easy as Sector 1 but oh boy, it isn't... I have some questions:

-What do I have to do once I have dismantled the warhead bomb in the North Korean embassy?

-How do I cross the bloody quicksands?

-I have the Bayonet, where shall I use it?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Fri 13/03/2009 10:35:32
I can only help you with the quicksands and the nuclear material:

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Quicksand: I just didn´t walk directly through the quicksand-field. I just passed it at its backside.
        Warhead: I just carried the material around in the bucket until I later needed it for a "special" shipmotor ;-)
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I would also like to know for what the bajonet is good for... ???

Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: fra on Sat 14/03/2009 22:16:12
I would also like to know for what the bajonet is good for... ???

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Bajonet: You need it in Oberzoegersdorf for the hot-air balloon.
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: D-TurboKiller on Sat 14/03/2009 23:07:41
Okay, I think I'm really stuck this time. I've gone as far as the US Zone, but I get killed by those savage americans.

I have some doubts for a start:
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-What do you have to do in the US zone?
-Am I able to use the post-its for something? (though I used one already for the pianist)
-Is it possible to do anything in the Dark Room, maybe save yourself? (pretty funny btw)
-Those Cheetos on the US house zone under construction, are they useful? (they break up into bits...)
-The ET in the zoo, is it just for fun? Or does he have something useful as well?
-Is it possible to enter the Korean "house"?
-Do you need to do anything to the hamster? (I did notice the bayonet could work, but he says the hamster is too strong)
-Can you actually get into the Red October yard?
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Here's what I have:
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Passport, Medal, Generic Medal, Post-it Gomulka, Files, Post-it Gleb Neugebauerov, Gravel, Bayonet, Wrench, Car-jack, Vehicle master key, Shearing Scissors, Post-it Fiodor Mikhail Otkupshchikov, Furrow Cruiser Manual, Large hair ball, Flask (used water on the ship)
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I'd really appreciate the help. It's a great game, I really loved Sector I but this one is definitely harder, but great! :D
Title: Pavel Protin...
Post by: on Sat 14/03/2009 23:11:45
Hi! I Just got the motor but since two days I can't escape Pavel Protin. Any hints?
Title: Re: Pavel Protin...
Post by: D-TurboKiller on Sat 14/03/2009 23:15:21
Quote from: meme on Sat 14/03/2009 23:11:45
Hi! I Just got the motor but since two days I can't escape Pavel Protin. Any hints?
Hmm, I thought this was easy, but here goes...
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After you got the motor, on the room you escaped into, wasn't there an open door there with a keyhole? And didn't the scientist tell you to lock that a certain door?
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I hope this helps you  ;)
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Sun 15/03/2009 12:51:55
I'm having some problems too

How do I get to the US zone?

What do I have to do with the token?

I've got the cruiser manual but I don't know what to do with it?

Where shall I use the key to the past?

I have filled the flask with water. What do I have to do with it now?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Sun 15/03/2009 16:33:45
Where did you find the manual? I got the motor, but he refuses to use it with the boat..
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: fra on Mon 16/03/2009 14:55:04
Quote
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Q: Is it possible to enter the Korean "house"?
A: yes. try twice.
Q: Can you actually get into the Red October yard?
A: yes, but only as a dead body.
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Here's what I have:
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Passport, Medal, Generic Medal, Post-it Gomulka, Files, Post-it Gleb Neugebauerov, Gravel, Bayonet, Wrench, Car-jack, Vehicle master key, Shearing Scissors, Post-it Fiodor Mikhail Otkupshchikov, Furrow Cruiser Manual, Large hair ball, Flask (used water on the ship)
You will need the bucket from the last corner of "lake" buikal once you got into the korean embassy...
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I'd really appreciate the help. It's a great game, I really loved Sector I but this one is definitely harder, but great! :D
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Mon 16/03/2009 15:15:16
Quote from: Bobbert on Sun 15/03/2009 16:33:45
Where did you find the manual?

Underground..
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You need to use the porthole in the steppe
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Therefore you need..
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The car jack from the gas station
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But...
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You need to see a few people first: at the busstop, the gas station, the taveerne and the academy of science.
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 06:50:35
Where is the motor?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Tue 17/03/2009 08:54:20
To get the motor..

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You need to open the Brothers Strugatzki hydrolic entrance.
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 12:53:26
Quote from: Bobbert on Sun 15/03/2009 16:33:45
Where did you find the manual? I got the motor, but he refuses to use it with the boat..

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The traitor "took his knowledge with him when he died". Search for the corpse and you will find the manual. Dead body looks like Bruce Sterling, by the way... And it can be found on level -2 (access _not_ through level -1)
You can't use the motor on the boat stuck upside down in the military area. Use the crane to replace it with a boat from the lake first!
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Title: Stuck in OZÖD questions?
Post by: fra on Tue 17/03/2009 14:36:13
I have to apologize. One slipped though all betatesting.
Comrade Jon found a real bug, that stops the great socialist revolution at Oberzögersdorf. But: Only 21,4% of you are stopped, the others are lucky and can complete the mission.

Known post-release bug #2
in versions v1.0 and v1.1

If it happens that you have to answer the question
"...ist ein mächtiger Feind" // "...a powerful enemy"
you are in trouble, as you never can click the right answer and are stuck.
The chance that you are affected is 3 out of 14 (so you now know that there are 14 questions in total)

Unfortunately there is no workaround. And: Questions are selected randomly at start of a new game.
v1.2 is currently compiled and tested. Saved games will be fully functional in this release.

Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 18:05:30
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How do I replace the the boat with the crane? I haven't seen any lake
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 18:49:00
Quote from: gotelin on Tue 17/03/2009 18:05:30
How do I replace the the boat with the crane? I haven't seen any lake
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Military area with boat - go right, cross a place with a statue and you will find the crane system 'Categorical Imperative'. The street behind the crane leads to a small house which contains the crane control. You will need the token to start it.
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 20:39:58
Thanks a lot  Idea23

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I tried the the token, but in the monitor, not the slot, d'oh
Now I find myself in Oberzoegersdorf and I can only get captured and comment on things with a "grrr", I can't do anything else, is this a dead-end  ???
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Tue 17/03/2009 22:37:35
Nope, it's not.
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Walk to the left to meet the oponent. You can walk behind the billboard.
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 22:56:01
Thanks for your answer Leon but...

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I've already tried that, I meet the enemies but they capture me and the game ends... Maybe I've forgotten something...
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Tue 17/03/2009 23:24:50
Did you...
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...try to resolve the conflict in another way?
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Now that I replay that part...
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When you don't fire the cannonball, you don't get the options. Did you fire the cannonball?
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 23:34:01
I've tried almost everything and nothing... Don't know what that other way can be...
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Tue 17/03/2009 23:40:33
When you meet the Americans, you have two options:

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- Fight against the dibilitated cat allergy sufferers
- Try a different conflict resolution strategy.

When you select the second one, you should be able to continue.
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Tue 17/03/2009 23:45:19
It seems I don't have any option other than die...

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When I approach the zone where the americans are a scene triggers leading me to my death, apparently they force me to watch South Park until I die... I can't make any choice
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Thanks again
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Wed 18/03/2009 00:09:46
Seems like you haven't fired the cannonball then?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Wed 18/03/2009 00:14:20
Quote from: Leon on Wed 18/03/2009 00:09:46
Seems like you haven't fired the cannonball then?

Ouch, I haven't, So... I take it im screwed and I should start all over again right?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Wed 18/03/2009 00:20:39
If you haven't saved.... I'm afraid so.
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Wed 18/03/2009 07:03:23
Quote from: Leon on Wed 18/03/2009 00:20:39
If you haven't saved.... I'm afraid so.

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Oh damn, so what should I do to fire that cannonball?
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Wed 18/03/2009 09:26:36
Oh, eehhhh... quite a bit. In a nutshell:

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You need the master key, the shearing scissors and unknown device. With the master key you can open the Tatra and take the bread, then give the bread to the cat-lady who will call the cats. Use the scissors on the cats and take the hairballs. Give the unknown device to Irina at the power unit and use the shunt there. Then use the hair ball on the space travel machine and your cannonball is finished.
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Well... piece of cake, right?  ;D
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: muppet on Wed 18/03/2009 12:30:22
Done cat/bread thing earlier, didn't get furball, now cats gone. Am I stuffed?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Wed 18/03/2009 13:17:00
Are you with the cat lady or at Tullner street?

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They'll disappear from there. When you give the lady the bread, you can use the scissors on the cats. I'm not sure what happens when you ignore the cats...
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Which version are you playing?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: muppet on Wed 18/03/2009 14:14:36
Playing version 1. I'm with Americans, can't do anything but die! Deleted early saves & can't be bothered to do it all again. Looks like i'm done here. New 1 looks good, will try that.
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Wed 18/03/2009 20:52:45
Quote from: muppet on Wed 18/03/2009 14:14:36
Playing version 1. I'm with Americans, can't do anything but die! Deleted early saves & can't be bothered to do it all again. Looks like i'm done here. New 1 looks good, will try that.

Did you fire the cannon?
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When you are on the ship, you have to fill the water into the funnel on the right.
Then put the cannonball into the big hole on the left and the cannon is loaded.
Don't forget to get your departure clearance (mission code warbler) via intercom.
When you start the engines and cross the country you will be asked if you want to fire the cannon.
Doing so makes much difference in oberzoegersdorf...
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Wed 18/03/2009 21:38:23
my three questions (and the answers) are:

Oh
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Hayek
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, your errors scorch the earth.

It's not always easy to
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hover
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on top.

The revolutionary has to move about among the people like the chrysalis of the warble fly in the body of the
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ovine livestock
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: themom on Thu 19/03/2009 19:53:28
Where can I find a flask for water?
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Thu 19/03/2009 20:34:31
Quote from: themom on Thu 19/03/2009 19:53:28
Where can I find a flask for water?

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Listen to the poet.... twice!
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Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: on Thu 19/03/2009 20:44:59
Searching for answers to these questions:

The imperfection of humanity is ... of our enemies.

and

... is the most precious good!

The third answer
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We are working on an Idea
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I found on a statue in the room with the "wall".


Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Fri 20/03/2009 00:08:18
Your missing answers:
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Health is the most precious good!
(looking at the statue of Lenin north of the cemetary)

The imperfection of humanity is an invention of our enemies.
(looking at the peoples wall across the zoo)
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Quote from: Edward P. on Thu 19/03/2009 20:44:59
I found on a statue in the room with the "wall".

Can you be more precise which statue/room this is?
Title: Walkthrough Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector II
Post by: fra on Sat 21/03/2009 16:14:59
english version: walkthrough Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector II
http://gamesolutions.efzeven.nl/soviet-unterzogersdorf-sektor-2-walkthrough-monochrom2009/

Nederlandse versie:
http://gamesolves.prophp.org/free/s/su2.htm

deutsche Version: Sowjet Unterzögersdorf Sektor II
http://www.korrupt.biz/1180/sowjet-unterzogersdorf-sector-2-noch-kein-kompletter-walkthrough/
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: fra on Sat 21/03/2009 16:36:44
You already have the answers for these three quesions, but the locations where the hints can be found are missing. To complete this missing information (I use the numbers of your walkthrough at http://gamesolutions.efzeven.nl/soviet-unterzogersdorf-sektor-2-walkthrough-monochrom2009/):

4. You’re the product of the workforce
You’re beloved without remorse
To the future you gave birth
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Now you upgrade planet Earth.
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(from the "ode to the party", played during the furrowcruise)


10.
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We are working on an idea.
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(from the room with two fallen statues - just behind the room with the wrench)
Comment: I must confess that this one is quite tricky in english, as the translation differs in both variants. The statue says "We're spinning this idea..." and the question is "We are working on _______". Where as in german both sentences are "Wir arbeiten an einer __Idee__". I changed the sentence on the statue for future releases, as it is text without voice output and thus quite simple to change.


12.
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Hold remembrance in high esteem!
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(seen on the poster pinned to the door to the monster room in the cellar. you can see it only when you close it to lock in pavel protin).
Title: Re: Soviet Unterzoegersdorf Sector 2
Post by: Leon on Sat 21/03/2009 16:57:08
Thanks, I'll update the page.

I've seen the text We're spinning.. several times but wasn't sure if that was the one. I was still looking for the others but hadn't found them yet. Thanks again.