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Title: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Omega71 on Sun 05/05/2013 19:04:53
Hello everyone, I am stuck on a ledge (outside of the cave) and I do not know how to get past the force field. Could someone please tell me what to do. I have tried so many different things I do not know what to do anymore. I have been looking all over for a complete walkthrough but could not find anything. The walkthrough in this forum is incomplete. Thank you for any help provided.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: sthomannch on Sun 05/05/2013 21:55:49
You mean, the field that sends you back?
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try to get the red rock from below the ledge. First, you have to cut the small tree above it
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use stick with hook to get the rock
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if you use this item again, it is too heavy, so you can't use it yet
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put the magazine on the green cross, then the red stone
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how to crush it?
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the rocks above the cave exit would do the job, but you can't reach them. You can't use the stick
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shout at the rock
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use the stick to remove the fallen rock, then get the paper with the iron dust and use the dust on the magnetic field, so you know where you can step to get to the switch
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you can cross the field, but how do you get to the other side?
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flip the switch and step on one of the red spots of the magnetic field
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Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Omega71 on Mon 06/05/2013 13:29:49
Thank you sthomannch for your help. I never would have guessed it. Looking forward to chapter 2. Take care.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 08/05/2013 00:44:38
I'm in the cave and how do I get to the second part of it. It says something about needing a light. Where do I get this light? Its really frustrating that no one has done a walkthrough for the rest of this 1st part yet.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Shadow1000 on Wed 08/05/2013 16:17:35
Quote from: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 08/05/2013 00:44:38
I'm in the cave and how do I get to the second part of it. It says something about needing a light. Where do I get this light? Its really frustrating that no one has done a walkthrough for the rest of this 1st part yet.

This will take a few steps. I don't know how far you got in this puzzle so I'll just post the first few steps and if you're still stuck, please post back:

1)
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did you notice the bowl near the entrance? Did you notice the heart rock at the bottom left of the screen near the entrance?
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2)
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use the gum on yourself and then put it into the bowl
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3)
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you're going to need some of the vine at the entrance to the cave
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See if that helps!

SHADOW
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 08/05/2013 19:39:54
Shadow, I've already done all of that. Still stuck. Please tell me the rest.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Shadow1000 on Wed 08/05/2013 20:11:25
Quote from: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 08/05/2013 19:39:54
Shadow, I've already done all of that. Still stuck. Please tell me the rest.

Certainly :)

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go back out of the cave and put the vine segment into the waterfall. THEN put it in the bowl and it will then redirect the light to the crystal which will illuminate your path...
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SHADOW
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 08/05/2013 23:27:43
Ok. Shadow. This game is really getting on my nerves. Please, just send me a walkthrough. A step by step way to complete this. I'm getting so pissed off, I might even write the creator and tell him off, that his game is too difficult and for him to make a walkthrough.

I'm stuck again. I'm at the part, where I've cut the stupid tree and now what?! I HATE GAMES LIKE THIS!!!!!! Sierra at least made hintbooks you could purchase to get you through the tough parts. No one does walkthroughs anymore. WHY?!
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Thu 09/05/2013 00:38:53
Just finished the 1st part. Hope he doesn't abandon this. It was kinda fun.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Leisure Suit Harry on Thu 09/05/2013 12:17:49
I'm sorry, Itcolonel97062, that the difficulty level of DOTE made you curse. I assure you that I had my game beta-tested before I released anything. To speak frankly: I meant to challenge the players! I certainly could have provided a walkthrough. But let's be honest: The real gaming-satisfaction comes from solving a tough puzzle without a hint-book. I tried to place the hints within the game. I can imagine though, what made the cave difficult for you and consider implementing a slight hint within the game before I release part 2.
Yes, I am not going to abandon the game. PArt 2 is progressing. I will complete it in the near future.
All puzzles have been done though. And I can tell you (yes, this is a heads up, folks) it's not getting any less difficult! (And least that's what I hope, my beta-testers may prove me wrong).

Neeeeeeeeever give up!

Looking forward to providing you with the full length "Decision of the Elders"

Yours Boston McShew (aka Leisure Suit Harry)
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Leon on Thu 09/05/2013 21:12:16
Until the full game is finished, here's the walkthrough (http://gamesolutions.efzeven.nl/space-quest-decisions-of-the-elders-walkthrough-boston-mcshew2013) so far.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Fri 10/05/2013 03:14:32
Thanks Leon! Hope he updates it, as the game progresses.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Leisure Suit Harry on Tue 25/06/2013 12:02:54
I have recently released PART 2 of the game.
The game (consisting of part 1 and the new part 2) can be downloaded at:
http://www.tonundtext.at/downloads/SQ_DOTE2.zip  (http://www.tonundtext.at/downloads/SQ_DOTE2.zip)

The beta testers managed to solve the puzzles without help. The puzzles are hard but if you take the time to read the hints you will solve them.

If not, you can ask me. Or, even better, maybe LEON has mercy and extends the wonderful walkthrough of part 1 :) :grin:
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 18:18:05
I am stuck...
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I have the bow/arrow, balloon, potato with copper coin, tongs, and walnut. No clue what to do next.
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Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Shadow1000 on Tue 25/06/2013 18:44:33
Quote from: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 18:18:05
I am stuck...
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I have the bow/arrow, balloon, potato with copper coin, tongs, and walnut. No clue what to do next.
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Try
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finishing the battery. You need zinc, right? do you know where to get that from?
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SHADOW
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 19:06:03
Yes, I know where to get the zinc, but don't have the right tool.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Shadow1000 on Tue 25/06/2013 19:11:06
Quote from: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 19:06:03
Yes, I know where to get the zinc, but don't have the right tool.

Ok,
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the right tool is in the hole in the tree. Have you located that yet?
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SHADOW
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 19:19:42
Yep--can't figure out how to get the squirrel out :)
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Shadow1000 on Tue 25/06/2013 19:23:54
Quote from: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 19:19:42
Yep--can't figure out how to get the squirrel out :)

Ok, step 1:
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grab the clock in the workshop
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Step 2:
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affix the walnut to the clock
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See if that gets you close

SHADOW
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 20:58:47
Got it and done--thank you Shadow1000!
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Shadow1000 on Tue 25/06/2013 21:15:28
Quote from: gspit1124 on Tue 25/06/2013 20:58:47
Got it and done--thank you Shadow1000!

Great! You're welcome. Enjoy the game...

SHADOW
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 03/07/2013 03:46:17
Great puzzle with the balloon. Very difficult to catch it. Please continue the walkthrough.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 03/07/2013 04:23:12
Where do I get the walnut? Does the walnut even exist or is it imaginary and in your head? The game won't allow you to get the clock. Why are you giving bs hints? The clock cannot be removed. Come on. REAL hints, please.

A message to Leisure Suit Harry. If you're gonna make a game, then make a walkthrough for it. Like Sierra did, back in the day. How difficult is it to make a walkthrough of YOUR game?! YOU made the game, so YOU have all the answers. YOU should have all the answers, anyway.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 03/07/2013 04:40:40
There is NO walnut!!!! YOU cannot TAKE the stupid clock, either!!!!!
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 03/07/2013 04:55:51
Got the copper coin. But guess what?! Still no stupid walnut! SO the game is dead ended. Cannot continue without a walkthrough.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 03/07/2013 05:45:38
I don't see or could find the bow/arrow, either. So I guess I am missing a few things. Maybe these things are not real and are imaginary. I have looked everywhere and cannot find the walnut, or the bow/arrow.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Phemar on Wed 03/07/2013 08:12:42
LtColonel:
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Push the tree next to the shed for the walnut. You need to fix the clock before you can pick it up.
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Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Wed 03/07/2013 21:08:09
Thanks Phemar, But now I'm still stuck. How do I get the squirrel out of the tree?
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Phemar on Wed 03/07/2013 22:17:04
Hint:
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You need to put him a trance...
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Answer:
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Put the clock on the branch, and attach the walnut.
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Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Thu 04/07/2013 00:23:21
This game is getting very irritating! Still no bow/arrow. Now I'm stuck after reading the letter from Julia's brothers. Have the Coke can and the letter and stuck on the cliff. Thanks again for the help, Phemar.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Phemar on Thu 04/07/2013 09:28:44
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Have you collected the heart balloon filled with cow farts? (You learn the cow farts are super lightweight.)
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Have you collected the liquid gold from the birch tree? (You need a jug to collect it in, there's a 1 liter jug in the house.)
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You need to weigh down the rock on the cliff so it doesn't float away when you attach the balloon. Pour the gold into the coke can and place the remaining gold on the rock. Now attach the balloon.
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For the crossbow:
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You need to collect all the feathers. There are three, I can't remember exactly where they all are right now. Pick up the cross in the scarecrow's hand and attach the circular ring you got from the kettle in the fireplace.
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Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Thu 04/07/2013 20:17:15
You instructed me to, You need to weigh down the rock on the cliff so it doesn't float away when you attach the balloon. Pour the gold into the coke can and place the remaining gold on the rock. Now attach the balloon.

You can't put the rest of the gold on the rock. The game won't allow it. You also cannot put the balloon on the rock either, as the game, won't allow that. Any other ideas?

How about a walkthrough? Thats alot better than hints, which some of the hints you've given me don't work. I did manage to find the feathers and use them on the stick to made what the game calls a missle. Is that the bow/arrow, or am I still missing something?
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Sun 07/07/2013 07:39:49
Still stuck. Hope someone does a walkthrough for this 2nd part.
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: sthomannch on Sun 07/07/2013 14:16:50
I didn't pour the gold on the rock but put the jug on the rock. Do you have the crossbow ready and is there an alien standing at the ledge? Have you already examined the sign at the ledge?
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Mon 08/07/2013 00:11:46
Yes I have the bow/arrow ready. I too put the jug of gold on the rock. What alien? I haven't seen an alien. I did look at the sign on the ledge. Have I missed something?
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: sthomannch on Tue 09/07/2013 00:16:41
Perhaps the main character is still frustrated and has no goal?
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touch metal plate, it is hot
examine the letter again, smells of lemon
put letter on metal plate and read message
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Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: ltcolonel97062 on Tue 09/07/2013 00:34:58
Great! Thanks for all help! I made it to Part 3! Thanks again, everyone, for all your help! Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Space Quest Decisions of the Elders Chapter 1 stuck on ledge with force field
Post by: Leisure Suit Harry on Sun 25/08/2013 13:50:23
Hi all.

A complete walkthrough ist now available:

http://www.tonundtext.at/downloads/WalkthroughDOTE.pdf (http://www.tonundtext.at/downloads/WalkthroughDOTE.pdf)

I advise against using it! If you play around you will get hints and funny responses at the very least. But since some puzzles are indeed difficult, before you get really frustrated check out the walkthrough.

Have fun - Harry (aka Boston)