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Title: The Shivah
Post by: pslim on Sat 01/07/2006 05:27:32
Nevermind, I figured it out.


But, hey. Someone else might need the thread.  :=
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Fizzii on Sat 01/07/2006 05:51:46
QuoteI'm right at the beginning, but I can't figure out how to access the computer. I read the clue, but I'm having trouble connecting it to anything.Ã,  Help?

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Check your inventory
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Quote(Also, what's the code for posting hidden spoilers?Ã,  )

Use [ hide ] andÃ,  [ /hide ] but without any spaces between the square brackets

whoops you edited as soon as I posted :P

Ok, I'm stuck after finding the other temple, bar, the business and the lauder residence and questioning the two people about the murder. I don't know what to do now.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: pslim on Sat 01/07/2006 05:53:21
Thanks.

Turns out I clicked through the "you have the right username, now what's your password" screen accidentally, so I didn't realize I had the right username, and kept trying to put in the password for that.  :-X But at least now I know how to hide stuff. :)
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Sat 01/07/2006 12:10:53
I'm stuck in the same place as Fizzii ...
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Khris on Sat 01/07/2006 13:14:13
Me too.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Sat 01/07/2006 13:17:29
i,m also stuck at the computer, it doesn,t accept anything i type in
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Mordalles on Sat 01/07/2006 13:33:38
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username: rstone
password: yenta
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i don't know what to search for on the computer, or how to get a new location to go to. theres only one location on my map, and thats the one you start at. please help!
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: DoorKnobHandle on Sat 01/07/2006 13:38:31
Don't know if it helps any, but I'm stuck right there, where Mordalles is. There's nobody to talk to, no new location and I already did everything that seemed possible. Plus, I have no idea what I SHOULD do.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Babar on Sat 01/07/2006 13:44:17
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After "triggering" all the information, you should know what you WANT to do. The only thing stopping that you don't know the address to go. The computer's search function should help there.
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My problem is as follows:
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I can't think of the password for the 2nd computer. I tried lauder, and jlauder, but neither work
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Khris on Sat 01/07/2006 13:45:13
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Search for "Jack Lauder"
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Stuck again, maybe encountered a bug:

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Combined the clues JDM and Joe DeMarco, got new clue: Joe's Meeting, but when I clicked on it in the conservation with Sharma, she didn't answer.
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Babar:
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It's the name of his wife.
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Sharma
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Sat 01/07/2006 13:54:13
still stuck, the computer will not accept anything i type in, what am i doing wrong?
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: eyeCoof on Sat 01/07/2006 14:21:25
okay, i'm in what i think is the final confrontation, but

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Zelig keeps doing me away. what is a man to do? do i need to get out on the balcony? stall? maybe do something before i get to the penthouse?
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: eyeCoof on Sat 01/07/2006 14:35:15
ok, forget it. i've just beaten it, it's rather short, yet fun.

if anyone needs any tips, ask away, i'm too lazy to write an actual solution. maybe later.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Khris on Sat 01/07/2006 14:38:24
Ok:
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What do I have to do at the pub?
Did Sharma react when you asked her about Joe's meeting?
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: eyeCoof on Sat 01/07/2006 14:41:30
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at the pub, ask the bartender about everyone the first time around. did you find out ethan g's identity?
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ethan g's identity:

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at the beit tikvah synagogue, there is a photo of "e. goldberg". e goldberg + ethan g - ethan goldberg. run it through the mainframe on your computer. ask zelig about it. ask zelig about everything until you get a new option of conversation.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: DoorKnobHandle on Sat 01/07/2006 15:47:25
Hmm...

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How do I get to the pub? I have four clues, the newest one is Joe's Meeting and I can go to the three first locations (including the starting one). I don't know what to do anymore again. :)
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: YicklePigeon on Sat 01/07/2006 16:06:54
dkh:

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Go to the Sharming Showroom, use the computer, go to the ledger, use the clue "Ethan G." on "Goldberg accounting" to form a link.  Then go back to Stone's PC, and search for "Ethan Goldberg".
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Regards,

Yickle.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Sat 01/07/2006 17:12:57
How do I:
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win the final battle with the rabbi?
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: eyeCoof on Sat 01/07/2006 17:18:25
Guest:

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you need to "out-rabbi" him. this is similar to Insult Swordfighting in the Monkey Island series. the beginning hints to the answer: rabbis answer to questions with a question. you need to ask him stuff, he'll try to answer with a question. if he doesn't succeed (ended sentence with a period or an exclamation mark), he is baffled, and it's time to throw a punch.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sat 01/07/2006 19:40:21
Im at the pub but nobody wants to talk to me......What now?
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Babar on Sat 01/07/2006 19:43:17
do other stuff
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sat 01/07/2006 21:54:35
at the bar?
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Greyarea on Sat 01/07/2006 22:03:36
No the bar is not the key you have to look at other locations
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You can try combining clues and when you get something new try to see what you can get out of characters that you are alreay talking to
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 00:36:40
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you talk about the beil tikvah synagogue, but I am at a different one, the one I started at.  How do I find that one?  I did the search for Goldberg on Stones computer....Found it....But I have not progressed at allllll.......I keep going back and forth between computers, synagogues, wifes house, and bar, nothing new to be found for me.......in hints here it says photo of goldberg there in temple tikvah, saw it but cannot take it...I have talked over and over again to rabbi zelig no new conversatin........Im ready to quit.


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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Artphreak on Sun 02/07/2006 01:38:28
I need some help with the final scene:
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I read the post about giving rabbinical responses to "out rabbi" him but I cannot seem to choose the correct responses-the girl always dies and then so do I one way or another...any further hints?
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also; Rosie:
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You need to search on your computer for the temple called Beth Tikvah, then when you visit that temple there are pictures on the wall including one with a E. Goldberg (then you can do the search on your computer for Ethan Goldberg).
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 01:41:00
I did but nothing new happens
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Artphreak on Sun 02/07/2006 01:45:03
Rosie:
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Have you come across the name of the temple yet? Perhaps that needs to happen before you can search for it...I cannot remember exactly where I saw it-either from speaking to the wife or searching the computer at their place of work...
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 01:49:36
I went to the new temple and spoke to the rabbi

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I combined jdm and JoeDeMarco and then went to confront sharma about a meeting........ no response.....also went to rabi and no response....also went to bartender,,,,, no talk....so what am I missing....This is driving me crazyyyyyyyyy
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: al77 on Sun 02/07/2006 03:23:00
Rosie,
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looks like you didn't go to the subway by the bar yet
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 03:32:20
I went down the stairs to the subway and came out by the maps
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: al77 on Sun 02/07/2006 03:44:52
Rosie
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you will meet someone new at the bar soon, he'll go to the sub
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 03:58:29
Thanks for all the hints...But in the end I die.....Tried all different endings, but I die
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: miryoku_81 on Sun 02/07/2006 05:44:51
Quote from: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 03:58:29
Thanks for all the hints...But in the end I die.....Tried all different endings, but I die

Rosie: Hints become progressively more direct/explicit:

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You need to try to get the gun away from the rabbi.
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Are you close enough to reach the gun?
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Is there a way to distract him and get him to look away from you?
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in order to get the gun away from the Rabbi.Ã,  Get as close to him as possible (this will require stalling him once, and getting shot twice when you try to grab his gun).Ã,  Then sit on the balcony and admire the view.Ã,  He will turn away to look at the scenary and you can grab his gun.Ã, 
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Some interesting endings to try (they are all slightly different:
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(1) Raj is killed, evil rabbi is killed;  (2) Raj is killed, evil rabbi is allowed to live;  (3) Raj lives, evil rabbi is killed;  (4) Raj lives, evil rabbi is allowed to live
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: chistinalove on Sun 02/07/2006 10:19:53
Quote from: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 03:58:29
Thanks for all the hints...But in the end I die.....Tried all different endings, but I die

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The trick is to throw a punch everytime the evil rabbi ends a sentence with a period instead of a question.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Sun 02/07/2006 16:15:18
Ok, thanks I got a good ending this time......
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Wed 05/07/2006 15:34:07
Hi, im stuck;
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Ive read the e mails about ethan g and put the company with the name, but how do i find anymore inofmration out ? Ive tried doing searches on Ethan g but nothing comes up ?
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: miryoku_81 on Wed 05/07/2006 20:23:16
bbc:

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Have you gone to the other synagogue yet?  There is an e-mail on the clothing store computer regarding another synagogue.  Search for the name of that synagogue on your computer to find an address (and open up another location for you to go to).  Be sure to look at the photos when you get there to find out Ethan G.'s full name and then do a computer search of his full name. [/hint] 
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Thu 06/07/2006 16:14:48
I have
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looked at the ocmputer but cant see another temple name ?
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Ali on Thu 06/07/2006 18:22:59
Quote from: Artphreak on Sun 02/07/2006 01:38:28
I need some help with the final scene:
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I read the post about giving rabbinical responses to "out rabbi" him but I cannot seem to choose the correct responses-the girl always dies and then so do I one way or another...any further hints?
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Artphreak:
I'm not certain of this but...
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Did you show mercy on the subway? If you didn't, I'm not sure it's possible to save her.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: miryoku_81 on Thu 06/07/2006 18:50:17
Quote from: bbc on Thu 06/07/2006 16:14:48
I have
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looked at the ocmputer but cant see another temple name ?
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bbc:
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When you check the computer in the clothing store you can scroll down the page to look at more e-mails.  There should be one there talking about a synagogue that Jack Lauder is a member of (at the very bottom of the e-mail list.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Rosie on Thu 06/07/2006 21:34:28
Artphreak

Look at the answer from Miryoku81 from July 2,2006 on the top of this page.  It was the same question I asked about getting a good ending......Follow his instructions.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Mon 07/08/2006 07:52:28
I'm stuck here ...

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I've been to both temples, sharming's, the lauder's house, and paddy's, but I'm not sure how to get to the subway. If I try to take the subway entrance by paddy's, it just pops me out at the manhattan map again. I've gone in and out of the bar 100 times with nothing new happening, and nobody is giving me new answers to questions when i try combining clues.
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thank you for your help.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Fizzii on Mon 07/08/2006 08:38:43
Taebee -

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You won't actually go there specifically, until you meet Joe. There might be something else you need to do/realise before you can talk to him.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Thu 10/08/2006 04:26:23
I have the clues
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JDM, Joe DeMarco, is Joe Jewish, Goldberg
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and I've gone through with them with the wife and Zelig and nothing new has come about. I've gone to the bar, talked with everyone, gone outside waiting to see if maybe I had to wait a few seconds for somebody to come along, but nope.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: jetxl on Thu 10/08/2006 10:48:10
Combine clues by selecting one and the clicking on the other.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Gregjazz on Tue 15/08/2006 00:35:18
Okay, I'm stuck:

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I'm in the bar with Joe DeMarco, and have exhausted the dialog topics. What do I do next? I have no clues or direction what to do now.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Tue 15/08/2006 01:16:57
Geoff.

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you DO have Zelig's business card though ;)
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too difficult?

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perhaps his email address could be useful.
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STILL too difficult?

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Zelig's email and Stone's computer.  Is Zelig on Ravnet too?
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I hate giving direct answers to puzzles, sorry.  Hopefully this will be good enough, though.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Gregjazz on Tue 15/08/2006 01:58:22
Quote from: ProgZmax on Tue 15/08/2006 01:16:57
I hate giving direct answers to puzzles, sorry.  Hopefully this will be good enough, though.

No, that's perfect!!

I'm glad you didn't give the direct answer... all I needed was a clue, and yours seems sufficient to give me the right direction.

Thanks again!

EDIT:

Found a little easter bunny or something?

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On your computer, search for "goldberg" (try with commentary on)
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: voh on Sat 19/08/2006 17:51:11
Quote from: Geoffkhan on Tue 15/08/2006 01:58:22
No, that's perfect!!

I'm glad you didn't give the direct answer... all I needed was a clue, and yours seems sufficient to give me the right direction.

Seemingly I need more than just a clue :(
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Gregjazz on Tue 22/08/2006 16:27:06
Quote from: voh on Sat 19/08/2006 17:51:11
Quote from: Geoffkhan on Tue 15/08/2006 01:58:22
No, that's perfect!!

I'm glad you didn't give the direct answer... all I needed was a clue, and yours seems sufficient to give me the right direction.

Seemingly I need more than just a clue :(

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Look up "amos zelig" (or whatever his full name is) on your computer to get biographical information.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: voh on Tue 22/08/2006 19:33:33
I did that ages ago, it didn't help me a lot. I get his email address, which seems to be no use. I tried logging in as him, but of course, no clue as to his password. I'm not even sure I should do that.

I'm more stuck than that ;)
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: Gregjazz on Thu 24/08/2006 02:40:46
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His password clue is "PET", maybe the password is the name of his pet...
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Need another hint?

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If you look up "amos zelig" and read his biological information, it tells you the name of his dog.
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Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: R4L on Thu 24/08/2006 08:49:53
Does anyone have the older Shivah? I can't download the whole game, I only get the demo.
Title: Re: The Shivah
Post by: on Fri 09/03/2007 13:26:52
Quote from: Geoffkhan on Thu 24/08/2006 02:40:46
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His password clue is "PET", maybe the password is the name of his pet...
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Need another hint?

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If you look up "amos zelig" and read his biological information, it tells you the name of his dog.
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hi, i need help:
I get Zelig's email address and his password but i dont know in which computer i must logging.Ã,  Now I cant enter his synagogue and in the other two computer I cant logging or enter.
I have the paid version and I'm a little frustrate because I'm trying three days and nothing new happens...
Thanks!