Use It All (Or Forget Your Ball)

Started by cat, Wed 06/03/2024 19:26:07

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cat

@Kastchey I'm stuck again. So instead of spamming the MAGS thread, I open a thread here.

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I have to ribs from the corset but cannot glue them to the tiara with the resin. I have a repaired horn. I cannot fully wake up the owl. The pig is running around with my garter.
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heltenjon

Quote from: cat on Wed 06/03/2024 19:26:07@Kastchey I'm stuck again. So instead of spamming the MAGS thread, I open a thread here.

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I have to ribs from the corset but cannot glue them to the tiara with the resin. I have a repaired horn. I cannot fully wake up the owl. The pig is running around with my garter.
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You need to do some things more than once. Examining things should hint at what.
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Examine your dress.
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If you have already done that, then
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concentrate on the pig. You have to fool him into believing the wolf is there.
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Kastchey

Thanks @heltenjon  :)

@cat , if you need more hints let us know here, just one note from me though:
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The owl will always be either asleep or half-awake. What is important is the timing and coordinating her flapping with other steps in the scheme.
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cat

Quote from: heltenjon on Wed 06/03/2024 21:32:07You need to do some things more than once. Examining things should hint at what.
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Examine your dress.
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If you have already done that, then
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concentrate on the pig. You have to fool him into believing the wolf is there.
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I have some additional cloth strips, and when the fox is running around, the knife and the shears get a weird outline. But I have no idea what to do. I can't modify the fox trails and I can't do anything with the pig either.
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Kastchey

Re the 'weird outline' ;):
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Actually, the weird outline (a.k.a. "a magic aura signifying that your blade is temporarily enchanted") appears when you approach the sword, regardless if the fox is running or not. There was a one time event the first time you approached the sword that sorta explained it, but you can probably easily overlook or forget about it.
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Some hints:
Hint 1 (tiara):
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You cannot use the resin to glue the horns to the tiara (though it is a logical solution that didn't occur to me - I may even add it as an alternative way to do it post-MAGS), you need to use something else to make the disguise parts hold together. This item may or may not be in your inventory, depending on the previous actions. If it's not, then you will be able to collect it later.
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Hint 2 (pig):
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Have you managed to fully harness the pig yet, so that he's attached to the pulley rather than dragging the loose strings behind him? Having him fully harnessed unlocks some new options.
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Hint 3 (fox trails):
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You need something that looks more like wolf claws than your knife.
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If the above hints are not much help, here's a more straightforward solution split into parts to avoid spoiling that much:
Solution part 1 (pig):
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You need to use the cloth strips three times: on the sheep, on the tree and then after slipping the garter on the pig, on any of these three detached parts to create a connected pulley. Then the dialogue options allowing you to attempt to deceive the pig will open.
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Solution part 2 (owl):
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The pig mentions three "signs" that will convince him that the fox is actually the wolf, and that he should run for his life. The owl flapping her wings is one of the "signs". The owl will go back to sleep eventually, so you need to ensure all the "signs" are active before you talk to the pig again.
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Solution part 3 (owl et al.):
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You need the following elements while attempting to scare off the pig: the running fox, the flapping owl, the echoing howl and the modified tracks. The tracks and the owl can be activated in advance, but you can only howl and talk to the pig while the fox is already running around.
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Solution part 4 (tiara):
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You need your garter back to use it as a sort of a headband with the tiara. You will need to scare the pig off first, though.
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Solution part 5 (fox trails):
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The right tool for tampering with the fox tracks is the bone rib from your corset.
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cat

Finally I was able to finish it!

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I tried to use the horns with the trails many times, but it didn't work. Only after I set up the pulley, I think.
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Kastchey

Great to hear :)

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Hm. Yes, I intentionally made the interaction available only after it was clear you need to scare off the pig, but I can see how this may be confusing. I'll consider changing that, thanks for the comment!
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cat

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I think the trails are mentioned in the dialog or some comment beforehand, that's why I even tried it.
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Kastchey

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Indeed, and rather early on. It might be a more logical enabler for the tracks interaction (you can only get the shears mid game anyway so it's impossible to do it early).
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glurex

After a good while, I finally managed to finish the game! The graphics, music, humor and animations are great.

My only question is:

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that the title is 'Use it all,' but I don't remember using the harp at all!
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Kastchey

Thanks! Glad you liked it :)

Quote from: glurex on Sat 09/03/2024 23:48:25
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that the title is 'Use it all,' but I don't remember using the harp at all!
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Haha, yes, actually.. The title comes from the puzzle flow scenario submitted by heltenjon in this puzzle competition thread. That's one thing. The other thing is, I had originally intended to include other puzzle flows from that thread, but it quickly became evident I wouldn't have enough time within MAGS constraints, so I focused on the original idea (for that time). There is one more item that has no use - it's the bloody rose.
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