Who ever made Roger?

Buckethead · Wed 23/08/2006 14:39:59

First of all I would like to say sorry for getting up some old discussion again. Second, if nobody feels like making a new Roger (which I fairly doubt) I could give it a try. I can understand that there some people like Roger and don't want to see him leave BUT! What about an Default SE? With the same settings only with a new and improved Roger. Old Roger lovers could ofcourse just pick the normal Default.

3rd, If i understand correctly CJ (a.ka Chirs jones almighty) made Roger, ok that's all I wanted to know. THNX ^^

R4L · Wed 23/08/2006 14:48:37

I don't know a Chirs Jones, any references?

j/k I like the current Roger, but I think Prog's Roger would be cool to use as say an extra character? Say someone can draw backgrounds, but not characters too well. Having a newer looking Roger would fit nicely there. Or maybe just having an extra template to use would be good, especially for people modding the current Roger to use in their games. All I am saying is that it wouldn't hurt.

MrColossal · Wed 23/08/2006 15:08:22

Yea, now let's update that blue cup... We gotta keep up with the times!

sedriss · Wed 23/08/2006 15:19:31

Here. I made a new and improved bluecup.

big brother · Wed 23/08/2006 15:56:52

While we're at it, we should give Roger a l3n5f14r3, too.

Imagine how sweet the walkcycles would be.

Dan_N · Wed 23/08/2006 17:00:45

Hey, don't touch that cup!

I've searched to long and hard to find a big blue cup to buy and keep near me for inspiration! (and the occasional emptying of a 2,5l cola bottle)
Do you know how hard it is to find a big blue cup in Romania? It's like we're a freakin' 3rd world country!

Anyway, I'm not going to search for a new cup now!

Anyway, I think Roger's funny the way he is, and the only thing that should be changed is his view. I mean, make it more human-like and acceptible, for those who cannot draw too well to fill in Roger with different colors and make minor changes easily. Can you imagine Trilby walking like the existing Roger?

(my 2 grammes of spice for now)

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Thu 24/08/2006 01:28:59

For Steve and others:

I didn't feel like doing diagonal walk cycles and most people don't use them anyway. Feel free to paintover these as needed, though I recommend people use these as a reference rather than do a paintover. You learn more that way. These are 6 frame animations except for the icons. I don't know how many Colossal's template uses.

Edit: Forgot to put in Roger's insignia in the left walk cycle. Added a bonus anim because I like doing heroic type corny poses.

Kweepa · Thu 24/08/2006 02:53:00

Awesome, thanks ProgZmax!
Now we just need to persuade CJ to put those in the default template.
(Couldn't bring yourself to paint the poster pink, eh?)

Gilbert · Thu 24/08/2006 03:51:49

No, it can't be in the default template, another template maybe.

EagerMind · Thu 24/08/2006 04:58:09

Well, I realize I'm new here, but here's a vote for ProgZmax's version of the sprite. The only potential downside I see is that maybe everyone will start using the default!

But I do agree about the cup - no touch! I've got a big black cup (close enough, I suppose) sitting by my side even as I type.

Ubel · Thu 24/08/2006 05:25:04

I think it's a wonderful sprite and it's a great reference for people who want to practice animating. But still what EagerMind says is quite true. Some people are already using Roger in their games as the player character, which is bad enough.

With these sprites in the default game, and if you also replace the GUI graphics, we would rarely see new sprites again since new people want to use the default template for everything.

I repeat myself, no Roger replacing!

Dan_N · Thu 24/08/2006 06:13:35

Here, here!

I continue the motion for new Roger, at least for Roger's brother, or something...

And I support ProgZmax's character.

Here's to you!(drink out of 2,5l cola bottle)

Kudos!

SSH · Thu 24/08/2006 06:21:33

Now, who's going to redo the default template iconbar and cursors?

Buckethead · Thu 24/08/2006 07:40:33

Quote from: SSH on Thu 24/08/2006 06:21:33
Now, who's going to redo the default template iconbar and cursors?

There isn't much wrong with those imo besides, everyone with a bit of talent should be good enough to make their own cursors.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Thu 24/08/2006 09:02:39

How about some weird alien type icons?

Ali · Thu 24/08/2006 12:46:20

I would strongly support the inclusion of a ProgZMax's Roger Mark II in the default template. A more polished default graphic would be more inspiring. I don't think it would lead to more people depending upon Roger II as a player character, I think it would encourage people by showing them what can be achieved.

I don't think that should be seen as disrespectful towards Mr Jones's Roger, but I do feel the original distinctly lags behind the quality of the AGS software.

Chicky · Thu 24/08/2006 13:01:42

Getting rid of roger is a bad idea. The poor default sprites encourage people to make their own, no matter how good or bad they are. With progz's one in there we'll end up with a load of clones with the same character.

Change is bad. I've still not learn the new scripting style.

SSH · Thu 24/08/2006 13:16:54

AGS could come with Empty, Default (new) and Classic templates...

Layabout · Thu 24/08/2006 14:19:24

No it shouldn't be included. There is no reason ANYONE should ever use the default template unless they are making a test demo for themselves to learn how to use ags. NO other reason.

If Roger looks okay, more people will use it in their own games. As a graphical template it is fine, but it should not be included.

Buckethead · Thu 24/08/2006 14:33:55

Can I use ProgZmax' char anyway?