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BYO Hero
« on: 23 Sep 2020, 22:29 »
I encountered a bug possibly:

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Hint, tell to find of pile of sticks under tree near frog. I look and click everywhere and cannot locate those





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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #1 on: 24 Sep 2020, 02:30 »
I encountered a bug possibly:

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Hint, tell to find of pile of sticks under tree near frog. I look and click everywhere and cannot locate those


Thanks Splat.
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Do you know if you had the BROOM HANDLE from the Castle Storeroom at the time? (Getting the Broom handle from the Storeroom is what triggers this next Hint)

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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #2 on: 25 Sep 2020, 02:53 »
Thank you but that hint came before:
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Getting handle. While using handle on well and last thing for 2 coins, sticks show up


You might changing that so
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hint sticks come later


Great game
I encountered a bug possibly:

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Hint, tell to find of pile of sticks under tree near frog. I look and click everywhere and cannot locate those

Thanks Splat.
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Do you know if you had the BROOM HANDLE from the Castle Storeroom at the time? (Getting the Broom handle from the Storeroom is what triggers this next Hint)



Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #3 on: 25 Sep 2020, 05:17 »
I also made other observation:

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About branch for getting hair pin, according to hint it seem to indicate branch should near overpass (where I got bananas I think) but isn't here or no hotspot


Can you explain that?
« Last Edit: 25 Sep 2020, 05:22 by splat44 »

Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #4 on: 25 Sep 2020, 09:09 »
I also made other observation:

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About branch for getting hair pin, according to hint it seem to indicate branch should near overpass (where I got bananas I think) but isn't here or no hotspot


Can you explain that?

You are looking in the wrong place. Read the spoiler if you don't want to search for it yourself.  ;)
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The overpass is the gate-like structure just south of Abbey's platform/east of the cemetery entrance.

Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #5 on: 30 Sep 2020, 23:51 »
Great I figured walkway spoiler that another member provided.

There another confusion toward lock dragon gate:

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Hint indicates dates on tombstones but I see written are years. One of contains full last year of death and remaining two them few digits are missing. Is there some reference to code found after getting flag, like left arrow to 2, right arrow to 5 and flag? It so then I fail to see what.


As you may see kids will be confuse.

I also made other observation:

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About branch for getting hair pin, according to hint it seem to indicate branch should near overpass (where I got bananas I think) but isn't here or no hotspot


Can you explain that?
Thanks SPLAT for your feedback. These things are quite easy to update in the game and I don't want anyone confused, especially kids!
 - So I have made those updates based on your feedback - See items 1 and 6 below (worded on the devlog so that no one gets help from them as a spoiler)

Please see the updated version of the game at:
 - https://byo-hero.itch.io/byo-hero/devlog/182095/updated-game-version-20200927hs

27/09/20: Updated Game Version 20.20.09.27.HS
 - 01 Solved: Updated Sticks HINT Text description with ordering of two tasks to complete
 - 02 Updated: Added HINT light bulb in Settings Screen and change it's status based on HINTS On/Off setting'
 - 03 Updated: Changed MAP Inventory Graphic (new icon that also now says 'MAP' text under it)
 - 04 Updated: Changed HINT wording for Beaver to replace text: him with her
 - 05 Updated: Added POINTS for giving Beaver what she needs (Lowered other areas so total points remain the same)
 - 06 Updated: Added term 'Walkway' to HINT that relates to it


Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #6 on: 01 Oct 2020, 01:19 »
There another confusion toward lock dragon gate:

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Hint indicates dates on tombstones but I see written are years. One of contains full last year of death and remaining two them few digits are missing. Is there some reference to code found after getting flag, like left arrow to 2, right arrow to 5 and flag? It so then I fail to see what.


As you may see kids will be confuse.

These are late additions to make the game a little more challenging. There are a couple of puzzles near the end with more parent-mode difficulty level.
Dragon gate:
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Try to manipulate the tombstones to get the full code.
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The tombstone with the dragon on it!
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Rub the moss covering the date.

After getting flag:
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The left arrow to 2 etc. are hints for a later puzzle, but my daughter and I first suspected that they were hints for the dragon gate, just like you.

Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #7 on: 01 Oct 2020, 08:00 »
Ok, I suspect flag thing deals with:

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left and right rope, but even after connect flag, clicking left rope to set 2 on left rope and 5 on right rope or visa versa, flag isn't in right height. Is there something I am missing?




There another confusion toward lock dragon gate:

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Hint indicates dates on tombstones but I see written are years. One of contains full last year of death and remaining two them few digits are missing. Is there some reference to code found after getting flag, like left arrow to 2, right arrow to 5 and flag? It so then I fail to see what.


As you may see kids will be confuse.

These are late additions to make the game a little more challenging. There are a couple of puzzles near the end with more parent-mode difficulty level.
Dragon gate:
Spoiler: ShowHide
Try to manipulate the tombstones to get the full code.
Spoiler: ShowHide
The tombstone with the dragon on it!
Spoiler: ShowHide
Rub the moss covering the date.

After getting flag:
Spoiler: ShowHide
The left arrow to 2 etc. are hints for a later puzzle, but my daughter and I first suspected that they were hints for the dragon gate, just like you.


Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #8 on: 01 Oct 2020, 08:37 »
Ok, I suspect flag thing deals with:

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left and right rope, but even after connect flag, clicking left rope to set 2 on left rope and 5 on right rope or visa versa, flag isn't in right height. Is there something I am missing?


You are close.
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The two numbers must be aligned - in the same height. You probably have one high up and the other further down on the screen. There is a way to manipulate this so that the numbers are closer or further apart. This is probably the most difficult puzzle in the game, but if I remember correctly, there are more in-game hints if you're stuck.

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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #9 on: 02 Oct 2020, 03:40 »
Ok, I suspect flag thing deals with:

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left and right rope, but even after connect flag, clicking left rope to set 2 on left rope and 5 on right rope or visa versa, flag isn't in right height. Is there something I am missing?


You are close.
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The two numbers must be aligned - in the same height. You probably have one high up and the other further down on the screen. There is a way to manipulate this so that the numbers are closer or further apart. This is probably the most difficult puzzle in the game, but if I remember correctly, there are more in-game hints if you're stuck.


Thanks for fielding these questions Heltenjon!

It is an adventure game so I feel like it definitely needs a little bit of searching around, using some things together and thinking a little here and there, especially for the flag etc...

The NOTE on the wall behind the tapestry (we use as a FLAG) has a Flag Icon on it! and the hint helps you more. Where you need to connect this flag and raise it has the exact SAME numbers and Flag Icon for you to see, so I definitely don't want to make that even easier... I think it may end up being a very easy game of easy tasks and not an Adventure at all if this is taken too far!! :-)

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FYI: If the flag is NOT aligned and you look up the top from across the river from the castle then you'll see the flag is NOT blowing in the wind properly as a result, and is at 'half mast' - since it is not 'aligned' to the right level yet for the wind to catch it. Once it is aligned you'll see it flapping in the wind nicely.... (alerting the guards)

Also, if hints are ON for this part (kids mode), then the 'Reset' lever does NOT need to be used' however if hints are off (ADULT / harder) then the reset lever MUST be used or the flag can never align (it can be used any time once the flag is connected and raised)

If it’s not broken, let’s fix it till it is...!

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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #10 on: 02 Oct 2020, 03:45 »
There another confusion toward lock dragon gate:

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Hint indicates dates on tombstones but I see written are years. One of contains full last year of death and remaining two them few digits are missing. Is there some reference to code found after getting flag, like left arrow to 2, right arrow to 5 and flag? It so then I fail to see what.


As you may see kids will be confuse.

These are late additions to make the game a little more challenging. There are a couple of puzzles near the end with more parent-mode difficulty level.
Dragon gate:
Spoiler: ShowHide
Try to manipulate the tombstones to get the full code.
Spoiler: ShowHide
The tombstone with the dragon on it!
Spoiler: ShowHide
Rub the moss covering the date.

After getting flag:
Spoiler: ShowHide
The left arrow to 2 etc. are hints for a later puzzle, but my daughter and I first suspected that they were hints for the dragon gate, just like you.


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Yes the Old Man actually TELLS you the name of the 'V.Illan' that locked up the Dragon, before she burnt him for taking her babies... hence the LOCK CODE is the year he set that lock (locked her up) - the year of his death! (which is on his tombstone!) :-)
If it’s not broken, let’s fix it till it is...!

Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #11 on: 05 Oct 2020, 03:06 »
Ok but:

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hint seems to indicate 5 and 2 be used. I noted number positioned on right rope is higher and number positioned on left rope is lower and applies to all numbers regardless which ropes being clicked on


Hint is always on. I suspect that must some kind of bug

Ok, I suspect flag thing deals with:

Spoiler: ShowHide
left and right rope, but even after connect flag, clicking left rope to set 2 on left rope and 5 on right rope or visa versa, flag isn't in right height. Is there something I am missing?


You are close.
Spoiler: ShowHide
The two numbers must be aligned - in the same height. You probably have one high up and the other further down on the screen. There is a way to manipulate this so that the numbers are closer or further apart. This is probably the most difficult puzzle in the game, but if I remember correctly, there are more in-game hints if you're stuck.


Thanks for fielding these questions Heltenjon!

It is an adventure game so I feel like it definitely needs a little bit of searching around, using some things together and thinking a little here and there, especially for the flag etc...

The NOTE on the wall behind the tapestry (we use as a FLAG) has a Flag Icon on it! and the hint helps you more. Where you need to connect this flag and raise it has the exact SAME numbers and Flag Icon for you to see, so I definitely don't want to make that even easier... I think it may end up being a very easy game of easy tasks and not an Adventure at all if this is taken too far!! :-)

Spoiler: ShowHide

FYI: If the flag is NOT aligned and you look up the top from across the river from the castle then you'll see the flag is NOT blowing in the wind properly as a result, and is at 'half mast' - since it is not 'aligned' to the right level yet for the wind to catch it. Once it is aligned you'll see it flapping in the wind nicely.... (alerting the guards)

Also, if hints are ON for this part (kids mode), then the 'Reset' lever does NOT need to be used' however if hints are off (ADULT / harder) then the reset lever MUST be used or the flag can never align (it can be used any time once the flag is connected and raised)


« Last Edit: 05 Oct 2020, 03:16 by splat44 »

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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #12 on: 05 Oct 2020, 11:13 »
Hi Splat,

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hint seems to indicate 5 and 2 be used. I noted number positioned on right rope is higher and number positioned on left rope is lower and applies to all numbers regardless which ropes being clicked on

Yes, the alignment is ALWAYS required ...and both red number across lines must be perfectly lined up to the red line...

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What you may not have noticed is that the LEFT rope slips when it it pulled down and it is at its bottom.... !!! you will see it goes up more than it went down.... pulling on it about 11 times therefore gets it set right at the red line and then pulling the right one will line up the 2 and 5.
That is in KIDS Mode...

In Adult mode (hints off) the START position of the rope is IN-BETWEEN slip positions so the RESET button MUST be used (anytime) to reset it to the same start position as kids mode > then of course the above slipping etc applies to solve this puzzle...

Cheers!!!
:-)
If it’s not broken, let’s fix it till it is...!

Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #13 on: 06 Oct 2020, 06:11 »
Based on your comment:

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You mentioned "you will see it goes up more than it went down.... pulling on it about 11 times...", I presume you're talking about left rope?


My findings:

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Yes, I notices left number goes slightly up more, however, after click left rope until the end and plus 11 times have no effect as even if I click on right rope 2 and 5 never align correctly


Anything else I am not doing correctly?
This puzzzle seems more random

Hi Splat,

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hint seems to indicate 5 and 2 be used. I noted number positioned on right rope is higher and number positioned on left rope is lower and applies to all numbers regardless which ropes being clicked on

Yes, the alignment is ALWAYS required ...and both red number across lines must be perfectly lined up to the red line...

Spoiler: ShowHide

What you may not have noticed is that the LEFT rope slips when it it pulled down and it is at its bottom.... !!! you will see it goes up more than it went down.... pulling on it about 11 times therefore gets it set right at the red line and then pulling the right one will line up the 2 and 5.
That is in KIDS Mode...

In Adult mode (hints off) the START position of the rope is IN-BETWEEN slip positions so the RESET button MUST be used (anytime) to reset it to the same start position as kids mode > then of course the above slipping etc applies to solve this puzzle...

Cheers!!!
:-)

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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #14 on: 06 Oct 2020, 07:31 »
Hi Splat,

Note that you should also be able to see HELP - every time you 'Look' at either of the ropes (several times)... there are additional more and more helpful messages revealed (about 5 different layers of hints) change and give you more and more help - and are meant to lead you to the solution...

The detailed instructions are as follows;
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You may have noticed that the Ropes move a little more than one-full-cycle between numbers... that is the main thing to notice to solve this puzzle

Anyway, just in case you are stuck getting the flag on or something;
1. Click the RIGHT Flag to lower the rope and see the Flag Connector
2. Use your FLAG From Inventory on the RIGHT Rope connector to connect the Flag to the RIGHT rope
3. Click the RIGHT Rope again, to Raise the flag up and out of the hole

4. If HINTS are OFF then Press the 'R' Lever (To Reset the flag rope positions - you will see Position '1' on the LEFT Rope jump up a little )

Then you need to do these following steps to align the line with 5 and 2 (we work with 6 and 1)...
So, just RESET the ropes at any time... (Press the R Lever), then;

5. Click the LEFT Rope 5 times. You will then see the Left-Rope's '6' marker on the screen (a lot LOWER than you need) and the 1 marker on the RIGHT Rope
6. Click the LEFT Rope 11 more times until the Left-Rope's '6' marker exactly aligns on the Red Line (The 1 marker on the RIGHT Rope will be a little HIGH)
7. Click the RIGHT Rope once to Align the 5 on the left rope and the 2 on the right rope (Since the RIGHT rope will move a little more than a Full Number/Cycle)

Then, let me know how you go!
I have added extra help in the game now, to ensure people an keep looking even more and get more help since this puzzle is obviously harder than I thought people playing would be able to do.
Cheers,
T
If it’s not broken, let’s fix it till it is...!

Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #15 on: 07 Oct 2020, 01:14 »
Phew! I had no ideal that I could turn hint any time and yes providing more help will do

However, I definitely notice a bug:
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After connecting flag, when clicking on same rope, number 6 remains in place but number 1 from left rope goes down and down until next number 2 from top reaches red line


Now I know this bug doesn't affect reset but you might making sure that all numbers remain same place when clicking on right rope

Hi Splat,

Note that you should also be able to see HELP - every time you 'Look' at either of the ropes (several times)... there are additional more and more helpful messages revealed (about 5 different layers of hints) change and give you more and more help - and are meant to lead you to the solution...

The detailed instructions are as follows;
Spoiler: ShowHide

You may have noticed that the Ropes move a little more than one-full-cycle between numbers... that is the main thing to notice to solve this puzzle

Anyway, just in case you are stuck getting the flag on or something;
1. Click the RIGHT Flag to lower the rope and see the Flag Connector
2. Use your FLAG From Inventory on the RIGHT Rope connector to connect the Flag to the RIGHT rope
3. Click the RIGHT Rope again, to Raise the flag up and out of the hole

4. If HINTS are OFF then Press the 'R' Lever (To Reset the flag rope positions - you will see Position '1' on the LEFT Rope jump up a little )

Then you need to do these following steps to align the line with 5 and 2 (we work with 6 and 1)...
So, just RESET the ropes at any time... (Press the R Lever), then;

5. Click the LEFT Rope 5 times. You will then see the Left-Rope's '6' marker on the screen (a lot LOWER than you need) and the 1 marker on the RIGHT Rope
6. Click the LEFT Rope 11 more times until the Left-Rope's '6' marker exactly aligns on the Red Line (The 1 marker on the RIGHT Rope will be a little HIGH)
7. Click the RIGHT Rope once to Align the 5 on the left rope and the 2 on the right rope (Since the RIGHT rope will move a little more than a Full Number/Cycle)

Then, let me know how you go!
I have added extra help in the game now, to ensure people an keep looking even more and get more help since this puzzle is obviously harder than I thought people playing would be able to do.
Cheers,
T

« Last Edit: 10 Oct 2020, 04:02 by splat44 »

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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #16 on: 05 Nov 2020, 13:30 »
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Now I know this bug doesn't affect reset but you might making sure that all numbers remain same place when clicking on right rope

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Unfortunately that IS the actual puzzle!!... working out that one side slips more than the other in order to line up the numbers!


Cheers,
T
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Re: BYO Hero
« Reply #17 on: 08 Dec 2021, 16:55 »
Reminder that there are HINTS for every step in the game that you can turn ON under options for help if needed.
For further detailed HELP, please see he following;

1. There is a DEPENDENCY MAP available for this game that Maps out the full workflow.
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2. There is also a detailed GAME (ROOM) MAP and WALKTHROUGH of all steps in the game;
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Only look at these if you want to see all steps and actions and inventory items you require throughout the game.
« Last Edit: 08 Dec 2021, 17:09 by ToeKnee »
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