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at the gates, the haunted, children of bodom ,korpiklani ,finntroll and raised fist!

pretty much all music works for me nowdays.

still listening to youth of today,gorilla bisquits and bold but that´s not really metal now is it?!

and metallica died with CB... 

Anyway, to go back to the translation by Perkele. To be blunt, either you are either not fluent enough or too careless for the task. It would make a good start for a native English speaker to take and polish.

it´s probably a bit of both,from what i can remember english grammar & spelling was alot better when i was 14-23, but yes, i was quite careless in that translation, maybe careless aint the right word here... i was lazy.
but even so, it was quite an example of how things can get "strange" when you take away the personal touch by letting a software do the translation.

to cut it short.

what you can read between the lines in the original text is lost in automatic translation because of the lack of personal input.

[This is the opening in the game/novel Hell Awaits that im trying to translate ( ive been using google translate now ) so is this a good translation or not.]

This is the opening in the game/novel Hell Awaits that im trying to translate ( ive been using google translate now ) so is this a good translation or not.
would appreciate your views on it and is open for suggestions that would improve it.

Monday 10th of. May 2010
[The dream]

The pain was creeping, slowly, through the stomach, further around the spine and then up towards his throat.
the vomit was not far away now.
The breathing stopped for a while, it seemed like an eternity.
Heart is pounding hard in the chest and the pulse increases dramatically.
Frenetically, he tries to wipe the blood off his hands, it has dried ...
Now it feels like the tears are eating away the cheeks.
He wants to scream, he wants out of his body, the muscles turns in pain;
the only sound he manages to get out is a silent gasp.

Sweaty and disoriented, he sits up in bed, he has not quite grasped what is real or not.
The hands are still trembling when he reaches for the clock on the bedside table.
[02:46] lights up in red on the alarm clock that stands on the bedside table.
At the edge of the bed is Ellie, his daughter.
She stares at him, she looks sad.

- daddy! I can´t sleep, (she says anxiously)
- Are you having nightmares again?
- Mmmm.
- I know how you feel .
- Come ,lay down here between mother and i.
Jeff hugs his daughter tight and gives her a kiss on the forehead.
- I love you Ellie! Remember that

She did not answer, she had fallen asleep in her father's safe embrace.

Monday 9th of. May 2011

- Dad! Wake up (Ellie whispers in Jeff's ear)
Jeff opens his eyes and looks at Ellie and smiles.
She laughed and smiled at him.
She is so beautiful, like her mother in most of her features, the sun is shining through the window so that every single hair glisten when the sun lights up her golden-blonde little head,
Her green-blue eyes look at him and her gaze cuts through his heart.
He got a kiss on the forehead and then she whispered in his ear.

- I will return soon!
- I love you Daddy!

Jeff felt how he melted inside, that the three words in combination could give so much comfort.

- Iiiighhh .. he noticed how difficult it was to speak.
- I love you Ellie! (he managed to squeeze out at last.)

- WE ARE LOOSING HIM! READY!
The pain in his chest was unbelievable when the syringe settles into the chest and pumping his heart full of adrenaline.
The bright glow of the surgical hall strong lights flicker in his eyes.
A migraine-like pain cut through his head.
He hears a voice say that he will survive.
Then everything turns black.

[The night before.]

The last fluid in the bottle of Jack Daniels slips down throat, his thoughts went back to that day a year ago, tortured him, haunted him.
Everything was about what if he had done so, what if he had not.
Had he not turned around at that moment she had never run out on the street…
The truck driver didn’t stand a chance, just a second earlier he had held her hand, and then…
What if he had ... he could have…
the guilt, the dreams, the eyes, oh my god her eyes.
He started crying.
He had almost been like in a coma for a year now, he did not know what was real anymore, he heard voices, had hallucinations, he never slept more than an hour and usually floored by fatigue.
All that was needed was a glimpse of him and you´d see, his soul was twisted by grief and guilt, his eyes told a story with more agony than anyone has ever been able to tell in words, it´s said that a picture tells more than a thousand words, a pair of eyes tells can tell us even more and also revealing a whole life, a window to your soul.
He had seen her several times, standing in just outside the eyes reaching view, in a street corner, a window or in the middle of a street, she would smile and wave at him.
He had decided that enough is enough now, he could not fight back the tears any longer, he could not be the strong one anymore.
tonight, he would escape all, tonight, everything would stop.
It was just after two in the morning when he sat in the car and drove away.
There was almost no traffic at all and he threw in a higher gear up and the speed was way above the allowed limit.
He saw the railing of the bridge approaching quickly,he did not care, the speed increased even more.
It's almost over, he thought, it will be done quick.
The sound of metal grinding against metal , glass that rips his face to shreds, every muscle in his body tense, getting ready to resist the enormous force that pushes him through the front window.
He sees himself smashing the windscreen with the weight of his body.
He see how the body turns into unnatural movements.
Weightless,
a smile
he sees himself hitting the water and sink ...
He looks at the man sinking, it's him, but someone else.

An indescribable pain cut through his lungs when the body through reflex trying to breathe and draw in the gallons of water that fills his lungs, yet he is calm, the lack of oxygen getting his body to produce quantities of adrenaline which acts as an anesthetic agent. He welcomes the warm darkness that wraps around him.
He has accepted his fate.
It was not his life that passed in revue, it was his daughter's death, which was played over and over again, for him it was like a confirmation that justifies his action.
A darkness sweeps in and embraces him, the eternal darkness, it's over now he thought before the last electrical impulses to what is interpreted as  a consciousness from the brain sends him a last message
A whispering voice echoes in his head.
- Dad ...

Lol.

Because for once id like to be lazy!!!
And i was more frustrated over the situation than on google translator.

I don't mean the horrible shock films, I mean more like good story driven movies that are dark.
Like depressing or around that.

I can recomend both films,martyr is quite shocking but has got quite a story to tell.
Hierro is very dark and depressing.
You should see the orphanage if you havent seen it yet.

I'm not a Tarantino fan, Anywho I might have to check it out.

Not to derail the thread (You can pm me.) But does anyone have any recommendations for some movies that are dark?

Try martyr if you havent seen it yet, french movie, quite gruesome. Or you could try hierro, a good spanish movie

well the main problem when using google translation ( especially when you´re about to translate near 300 pages ) is that the program has got no clue wich one of the 10 words possible for each word you want to use, so the result will to 80% times lead to quite funny sentences.
( and ofcourse when you these damn electronic devices people call computers ( i call them hellspawn from now on! ) always find some way to **** your work up )

nah, i think it´s better to do it manually anyway, it´s going to take awhile but it will probably be for the best.

Probably easier to just do it yourself. Even in the best case, automatic translation is only going to give you a clumsy, often ungrammatical version of what you want to say. That's enough to be able to make sense of something in a language you can't read, or for basic communication, but if you already know both languages it's a waste of time.

Anyway, there's the old Yahoo! Babelfish, currently branded as Bing Translator. And Paralink offers online access to a number of different translation services, though the only one that covers Swedish is Babylon Translator. Finally, Reference.com offers a really basic translator (with a very restrictive character limit).

In my experience, none of these are really competitive with Google Translate, though it's sometimes worth running the same text through multiple ones, because they tend to make different errors. And they all seem to be pretty crappy at Swedish-to-English translation, probably because no one is working on it since Swedes speak English anyway.

i know it's better to do it yourself but im feeling quite lazy at the moment, and the thought of translating everything makes me even more lazy, lol.
well thanks anyway

GAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! I ( lots of bad words ) hate ( even more words that would shame a group of sailors ) computers right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 pages of translation down the drain because chrome thought i meant "go to previous page" instead of "erase the previous word"!!!!

does anyone know of a good translation software or website ( except google translate ) for translating documents from swedish to english...

and back to my own question...
i didnt really have any purpose other than see where people draw the line from where entertainment stops being entertainment.
I for one,just as soumi finland(WHAM) i presume, like to explore the more "darker" side of the human nature, to see what actually makes you tick.
( doesnt mean i do bad things hehe, im just wondering about them... )

The more provocative you make a game, the narrower the audience you can reach with the game.
Then again, I believe that those (like yourself, I would guess) who enjoy entertainment of a more provocative sort will enjoy the game even more for it.

There is no perfect solution, I'm afraid...

lol like myself... well it might be true that i enjoy provocative sort of entertainmen ( how do i say that without sounding like a really... really bad man... LOL )
it´s not really the provocative parts i enjoy, but what i dont like is when the choice aint mine to make, as an example, early fallout games, you could even kill children in those, wich was removed for the later parts. it didnt mean that i went on a killing kids rampage but the possibility that i could do something like it made the game feel more... authentic maybe...

i dont like provocation without a cause, i want it to fulfill a purpose... killing kids in fallout never had a purpose ( except bad reputation in the wasteland )
Fallout had prostitution,slavery and excessive use of violence,drugs,alcohol... most subjects quite provocating, tho it was made with style... so was never the shocker it could have been. another example... POSTAL!! wich purpose was to provoke and nothing more... i mean set a dude on fire then piss on him so he survives ( yes i did try that  ) but overall... a very very veeeerrrryyyyy bad game...

and when is too far way too far...

when it comes to story/graphics/sounds etc.

if you develope a game that is meant to be provocative, how far can you go before you cross the line?

just curious?

Great!!! Uhm, voice acting? Graphics? Wich one?

[Looking for:Background & Character artists.animation/cutscene artistsVoice actors]

Jeff's nightmare becomes real when his four year old daughter Ellie dies in a car accident, his whole world falls apart.
A year of living hell, hallucinations and severe depression has left its mark and on the anniversary of the accident, he intends to end the suffering once and for all.

He sits behind the wheel heavily intoxicated and drives through a bridge railing, but something prevents him from dying that night, miraculously enough, he survives almost unscathed.
Something that he saw in the depths of the river saved his life, was it really his daughters voice he heard,had she come from the "other side" or is there some other diabolical plan behind it all.
Soon after the incident he meets a young woman whose sister and nephew died in suspicious circumstances and she says that not everything is as it seems, together they try to solve a 3 year old alleged suicide while to figure out what´s haunting Jeff.

Has he gone mad or is there life after death, is it his daughter who has come back, is the young woman who she claims to be and if so, is she really as benevolent as she seems ...
Join us on a journey that cross the boundary between the supernatural and madness,
A dark tale of grief and longing, lust and betrayal, and a balancing act between what is real and what is not.

Does this look like something you would like to be a part of?

as for now, im trying to put a team together.

Looking for:
Background & Character artists.
animation/cutscene artists
Voice actors

PM me if you are interested and ill send you a copy of the script for episode 1 ( or drop a comment below    )!

The project has been on for a couple of months, but is standing still due to lack of artistic talent ( me )
( the story is 100% finnished )

the game will be in episodes, and im aiming for at least 800x600 resolution but preferably 1024x768.

it´s now called " Hell Awaits " 

damn you´re good   

is it possible to move the top edge of the room so that follows the top of the screen when its scrolling down?

scrolling the room worked like a charm(except i had to put SetTimer(1,1) above the if sentence,and use 1,1 instead of 1,10 huge thanks for this Khris!!! going to try the gravity next.