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Racist sites and organisations? christ, try the British education system, seperating black and white kids to different classes? talk about breeding bigotry!

They happen all the time, but now it's time we all recognised the serious fuck ups made by the film industry, please post with your most hated or loved mistakes that made the final cut

My contribution is from Return Of The Jedi, when the rebels pull up from the death star II, and they face the entire Imperial fleet, watch closely, as the hundreds of tie fighters fly towards the screen, watch the bottom of the screen, where did those tie fighters come from?

(Edited by AGA to remove profanity from title.)

Top five, top ten, tis all fubar anyway

Happy birfday!,

by the by, who remembers Sharkey and George, the crimebusters of the sea? (p.s. if twas already mentioned, go easy on me, I'm pushed for time and couldn't read the whole thread)

I'd like to add to blackthorne's conclusion that Lucas writes good stories and can't do screenplays, and that is that Lucas' directorial skills are not very good either, if you anylise ep 5 and 6 and, then compare them to the others, the interaction and banter between the characters is a lot better than the other films' poor contributions. I also agree with the point that the old (chemically based) sfx were more appealing,  as regardless of it's age, still looks better than any CGI sequence will ever look.
I would also like to add a very appropriate line to Ep1;
Padmé: You're a slave?
Anakin: I'm a person and my name's Anakin Skywalker, and i'm and American!
(please watch this scene again and it will make sense)
i really am ashamed of lucas for creating Jar Jar Binks, I mean what the hell was he thinking? Chewbacca never seemed to annoy the pants off of me, so why did lucas make jar jar so damn annoying?

Now for some miscellaneous questions:

1 Why does anakin age but Padmé doesn't?

2 how come the Empire weren't taking control of the galaxy sooner?

3 What do the trade federation actually trade?

4 How come Bevel Lemelisk wasn't in ep 2?

5 What the hell had Jar Jar got to do with anything?

You don't speak for me :)Ã,  I haven't seen the picture, but I've seen PLENTY of CGI that blends perfectly with live action.Ã,  (Gollum in Lord of the Rings) and I've seen completely CG movies (Polar Express) that had so much realism you could almost not tell.Ã,  There is (some) CGI in the matrix movies that seemlessly blends.Ã,  To me at least.Ã,  Some of the best (invisible) CGI work I've ever seen was in "The Last Samurai".Ã,  Don't know what CGI I'm talking about?Ã,  That's my point

i was refferring to star wars, u should cough up the â,¬5 to buy the Issue of Empire if you wish to challenge my opinion.

P.S. I don't have any links to help you, I read it with an old friend in a copy of Star Wars magazine about seven or eight years ago.

P.P.S. Consider the fact that qui gon found it difficult to fight maul, now consider obi wan's skills at that time, it all adds up when you think about it.

P.P.P.S. you seem to like S.W. v much, did u read any books?

I think we should clear up this fact first, CGI is not at the stage where it is indistinguishable, If anybody read the latest copy of Empire Magazine, they would have seen the picture of yoda sitting with Obi-wan and mace windu in one of the drop ships, now, I ask you (those who have seen the pic that is) does the picture seem real to you, (Besides the actors of course), do the two clones seem real?, does Yoda? I speak for everybody when I say no.

As regards the maul debate, Darth Maul is a fuckin deadly dark jedi, he killed a jedi master fer cryin out loud, do you think it's possible that an apprentice could defeat him? (consider Luke VS Vader in ep 5) I think it would have been a better climax if Obi wan fell and we would not know his fate until later in the film (like the Lord of the Rings). Maul would have kicked ass in ep ii if he survived, I think that Lucas created the character too hastily without considering future events, and late in the writing of the story, he just killed him off.

To address the year difference between the first film and the fourth, It was announced at the completion of the first that it was set fifty years before (or thereabouts) the fourth, and was later changed.

The clones are the worst thing about ep ii, even if they were all Jango's clones, that doesn't explain their Aussie accents, it's not like things like aussie twangs are hereditary.

And last but not least, the whole boba fett storyline is completely poor and rushed, why couldn't he be the son of Zam wessel (or whatever the shape-shiftin cow wuz called), it would add complexity, and would explain away his differences with his father.

I beg to differ about Maul, it's not that he ain't cool, he just didn't have any signifigance to the plot, why kill him off in the first film, I mean, Deus ex machina or what (even more obvious than your Anakin example) It was also agreed when Lucas lisenced out the rights for authors to write books he accepted all answers to tie in to the Star Wars universe, and as such he agreed on all decisions made by the authors. In other words, the books are as relevant as the first three films (the old/new ones)
The same thing was done with the matrix and it's sadly shite game, where you have to play the game to understand where the third film starts.

I think we all know it was a half-drunken can of Dutch Gold, but seriously.

I might be wrong, but it seems to me that the new Star Wars movies are not of the same quality as the originals. Both in SFX and storylines. The value of the visuals is close to nil as the costumes and carachters are decidedly poor and rendered in CGI
they may be the best available visual effects available, but it's still obvious, to prove my point, consider this, in the Return of the Jedi the scene where the emperor lands on the death star II is filled with costumed extras in Imperial uniforms, and although it is true that they are plastic and decidedly basic, they are ten times more realistic and cooler than the scene in Ep II where all the CGI clones (no pun intended) march.
I believe that physical sets and mass produced costumes are more pleasing to the eye that CGI will ever be.
And the lack of consistency sickens me, I mean, wouldn't c-3po actually recognise Darth Vader as his master?, Why is Anakin so young when ep 1 is set fifty years before ep 4 and ep 3 is set 18 years before ep 4?
And a long time before ep 1 happened, there was a mandalorian war, which turned most jedi to the dark side. A jedi civil-war followed where most jedi were wiped out. even the jedi council on Coruscant was wiped out long before the films. so how exactly does Lucas expect to explain all this???
I think we'd be better off without prequels and maybe it would be better if Lucas didn't direct the new ones, I mean the Empire Strikes back was the best star wars film ever made, and Irvin Kerschner directed it.

In short, the new Star Wars saga (which funnily enough is an old one) is a complete mess.

I've had accusations, allegations, patronisation, emmm railway stations.

But seriously, it is probably like in Jay and Silent Bob strike back, the assholes are all twelve year olds wanking to pictures of bugs bunny, they're not worth it.

It's recently becoming more topical in Ireland at the moment, but is it really neccesary, are guns the answer to problems with public order? I have only one view as I have never experienced armed police in everyday life. Does it work?, is it reliable? how many die each year due to shootings by armed police?

you are absolutely right about the plots not making sense, but I believe that I can pin that down easily. The whole bottom just fell out of the series after permanent changes were made, namely Maud Flanders' death, it developed into the charachters being typecast as their common traits i.e. Lisa's intellect (she doesn't come across as a child anymore) Marge's housewife activities etc.

The real problem with the simpsons these days is unneccesary changes that are irreversible.

My favourite:


German Guy: I remind you mister Burns, we Germans are not all smiles Und sunshine.

On a different note, does anybody realise that the Simpsons has lost it's charm?, it used to be great, but somewhere around 1998 it just wasn't as funny anymore, I think the quotes speak for themselves.

Although the internet is littered with thousands of different game rom sites, there are few that actually serve their purpose well, for example, www.emuconnect.com is one of the few that works. Many others use pop-ups and porno to make you subscribe, leading to mailboxes full of SPAM, but it's now time we separated the chaff from the grain and really made a definitive list of the best download sites out there, and stopped getting caught with crap sites, who mislead the visitor into countless trojan horses etc. etc. Feel free to debate about the quality of these particular sites, and consider some for quick download times, low pop ups, porno (absence of) and libraries of roms.

My contribution is Emuconnect, which in my opinion is the fastest there is!, How about you? :

What's the last film you saw, what's the best film you saw? what's the biggest lump of cow crap you ever saw (not literally) whether on DVD or in the Cinema It doesn't matter, nor whether it was worth watching or not, I'm just really bored.

Need i say more, no.. but i will.. PSP is damn saixy too...

oh baby, it's like a woman who'll make your dinner and act like a slut in the sack!

PSP's aren't the console for hardcore games, sure it's got perdy graphics, but the DS is where it's at.

and from what I have heard are 90% or so just re-releases of popular playstation classics, (not to say the DS won;t be doing the same).

People say that the PSP has been in dev. longer than the DS, this may be true as it's Sony's first attempt at a handheld while Nintendo have been making them for years with plenty of expertise.

I don't understand your point, you refer to the PSP's games as re-releases, when they haven't been released in the first place, many are franchise based, but not re-releases, actually I haven't seen one.

And on the second point, what the hell are you talking about? I don't understand where you are going with your reply so if you please, think before you speak.

Neither are worth buying. The PSP because everything PS is shit and crappy, and the DS because it's only a quick way for Nintendo to make some money before it's next gen machine. It's filler.

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