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#1
@Snarky
The distinction I tried to make there, is that I simply should have control over what my artwork is used for, unless it infringes on your more basic rights.
To force you not to speak your mind about my artwork(etc. write a review), to force you not to learn yourself from my artwork, to force you not to look at my artwork once its publicly available are some of those instances.
Perhaps using my artwork for testing, purely for research or for some other strictly non-commercial purposes.

Of course public good is another principle that should play a role, meaning if using my work for training should in some obvious way elevate suffering and can't be easily replaced, that should beat my right to stop it, but not if all it does, is on a push of a button, produce something pretty.

I believe the degree* to which my artwork(my labour) contributed to the NN's weights being adjusted, rather than other artwork or photo is the fact that should entitle me to have a say in whether its used that way, even if it didn't produce artwork that would pass under current laws as obvious plagiarism. Its turning my labour into my own competition in a systematic and undeniable manner.
My guess is, the laws now might more or less reflect what is fair, considering the damage a person can make with creating artwork similar to someone else rather than a machine spewing tons of it, combined with the fact that a person creating artwork on their own shouldn't need to struggle riddled with uncertainty just to avoid copyright infringement, as opposed to a AI model where you have clear choice in what you include in a data set.

*And the fact that proportionally to that degree the unapproved use of my work has contributed to me loosing future work, while someone else gets richer of it, its just hard for me not to see that as a sort of insult to an injury.
#2
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 07/08/2024 09:31:13...
I'm not going to get into the copyright/plagiarism/ethics arguments other than to say that I don't see a substantial ethical dimension to the question of where models get their training data; only to what they produce. As Jesus would say: "It is not what goes into the training that defiles an AI model; but what comes out of it, this defiles an AI model."

I'm not sure if, what you're indicating, is that copyright owners (largely creators) shouldn't have a say in whether their work is used in training AIs, but if yes I just wanted to respond to that.
I'm not completely clear on why some people think the owner shouldn't have control over the use of their work in this regard, but I'll try to respond to what seems as some commonly held notions that are misguided in my opinion.
Prohibiting a person from directly learning from your work that is publicly available is absurdly restrictive to their most basic personal liberties in a way, that asking someone not to use your work to create a machine that will churn out stuff derived from it and make money of it, while not alleviating some serious suffering with it, is not.
The damage another person can cause to your professional life with learning from your work and then deriving work from this knowledge is quite restricted in a way, that again a machine that can, churn out tons of stuff based on features characteristic of your expression, is not.
Putting to use the mathematical description of the process of "learning" doesn't automatically provide some divine immunity and moral high-ground beating the ownership of mental property.

It feels quite ridiculous, that one can not post their work online, which is often necessary to reach customers, and have any control to keep this expression of their hard-earned skills and inner being, from getting artificially deconstructed and utilized against their interests.

Clearly there is some blurred line between doing something for the purpose of saving lives with no commercial expectations and for the purpose of deluding someone into believing that they actually created something, or just acquiring loads of assets for little expense and no effort, with the goal of making lots of money. But most of the generative AIs related to topics close to this thread and forum seem to me very much at the latter end.


As far as the future of generative AI in the field of art and entertainment goes, I can only say that I wish (though I'm not very hopeful) there will be at least bunch of people left, who enjoy and appreciate the fact, that there has been a conscious living being that can be related to, who wanted to convey something to another conscious being and who invested themselves into the work that they want to experience.
#3
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Sat 15/10/2022 19:18:56
I think the full title is: Alan Partridge, the replicant that made Eldon Tyrell voluntarily squash his head.
#4
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Sat 08/10/2022 18:01:50
That's correct!
Either one of the worst B-horror shows ever or one of the best AAA comedy series.
#5
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Sat 08/10/2022 12:12:31
nope
#6
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Fri 07/10/2022 20:25:37
#7
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Thu 06/10/2022 20:45:57
Here it comes:
#8
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Thu 06/10/2022 19:59:03
Thanks Snarky for helping me solve the posting issue!
Derry girls was awesome, recommended.

I'll post a screen soon.
#9
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 17/06/2022 17:14:13
Bump.

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 10/06/2022 10:20:23
Have anything tried running latest 3.6.0 on linux in fullscreen mode? Trying this on a linux virtual machine results in a completely black window with no video or audio or reaction to input, regardless of the chosen renderer; so I am wondering if that's vm or engine's problem.

I'm not sure if this is still relevant or if I fully understood the question- I compiled the Tumbleweed demo with some mp3 music included in AGS-3.6.0.27-Beta7 for Windows and ran it under Kubuntu 20.04 system in fullscreen mode and everything went smoothly..

If it would help to test anything else in Kubuntu, let me know.
#10
Thanks for reply CW. But things that are compiled with AGS don't ever try to access internet, at least not by default, right?
#11
Hi, I wanted to try out Unity 3d and have been reading their https://unity3d.com/legal/privacy-policy. Maybe someone here might be able to tell me if I understood one point referring to usage of software built with Unity - Does every game build with it, every time its run, send a detailed hardware fingerprint of the user's device including OS and IP to Unity? Meaning, there is no way to build an app with Unity that doesn't send information about everyone who uses it?
I find that quite unsettling, if that's so.

Also was wondering, does AGS collect any information?
#12
The Rumpus Room / Re: *Guess the Movie Title*
Wed 01/06/2022 17:56:46
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 31/05/2022 21:18:14
That sounds like a companion piece to the story of Cheesoid.
Haha poor Cheesoid, that was just heartbreaking. Mitchell & Web had some killer sketches, the Homeopathy clinic bit makes me still laugh just thinking about it.


Quote from: TheFrighter on Wed 01/06/2022 17:29:57
Uh! I watch this movie in tv a couple of months ago!
It's Peter Strickland's In Fabric
a fine horror movie  very eerie!

In Fabric it is! Horror that was actually great Fun to watch.
#13
The Rumpus Room / Re: *Guess the Movie Title*
Tue 31/05/2022 21:01:13
Oh my god, I had no idea it was turned into a full movie, this made my day!  :-D But June 17. in theaters, when, how am I gonna see it aaaaaaa and what am I gonna do till then! 8-0


..So I guess its my turn despite my shit brain:
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/RHtJXhY/snapf.jpg[/imgzoom]
#14
The Rumpus Room / Re: *Guess the Movie Title*
Mon 30/05/2022 18:20:47
This is a short with David Earl. He builds this sad, creepily adorable robot out of some garbage. I've seen it some time ago and loved it, but my shitty memory can't come up with the title.
#15
I watched Lake Mungo a week ago after I read LimpingFish's recommendation and I'm still scared to go to the toilette after dark. Scariest most disturbing horror I've seen in a long time.

Also watched Phoenix Forgotten and liked it.

Then I watched Host (2020) about spirit summoning over Zoom gone wrong, quite spooky.
#16
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Wed 02/03/2022 20:44:58
I believe I've seen this, but for the love of life can't recall the title. I think it was some unsettling pair of words like Irredeemable truth or some kind of horrible truth.
I won't keep guessing though, just thought its of the utmost importance to let everybody here know that I've probably seen it.
#17
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Wed 23/02/2022 11:17:30
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Tue 22/02/2022 19:05:07
omg this is JAM!
BINGO!!!  To me its an absolute gem. Though anyone who wants to check it out I tell ya, beware! its sharp, its heavy, its dark and its probably cursed.

Here is a tiny little snippet which doesn't even begin to convey minimum of the insanity contained in Jam:
Spoiler
What seems to be the problem?
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/wznhY0V/1.jpg[/imgzoom]
Its the bed wetting thing.
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/J5nnTXs/2.jpg[/imgzoom]
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/0yrXFc3/3.jpg[/imgzoom]
Don't worry it won't go away in a day..
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/QCgZ9Zd/4.jpg[/imgzoom]
..but it will go away in the end.
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/Cz2qQcV/5.jpg[/imgzoom]
After all.. its not a disease.
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/7SXf1j2/6.jpg[/imgzoom]
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/6R662FL/7.jpg[/imgzoom]
[imgzoom]https://i.ibb.co/RvQswDH/8.jpg[/imgzoom]
[close]

Your turn Laura.
#18
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Tue 22/02/2022 18:52:16
Its a sketch comedy series from 2000.

Next time I'll announce the title If no one guesses it.

Spoiler
#19
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Fri 04/02/2022 13:29:55
End Of The F****ng World was good as I remember, but this is much older and only one series was released.
#20
The Rumpus Room / Re: Guess the TV show
Thu 03/02/2022 20:21:03
I should mention that when I was writing my previous post I missed that new season of 8 out of 10 cats is running,

more screens:
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