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Maybe I should just wait and see if Mr. Jones will release a Christian version...

Pop back in another 18 months to see how things are getting on.

I think this is the solution.

come on isnt it obvious this guys a troll? seriously no-one is that stupid.

SSH is

SSH is not stupid. He's a lot nicer that some of you.

I have downloaded the XVI hex editor. Is it legal for me to replace text in the Christian version of the AGS Editor?
I can be debugging my own Adventure engine in the meantime...

Not polite.
You should have *at least* the author's agreement with your plan anyway.
Then I still really do not understand the purpose of your mission...

I think I'm being misunderstood. I'm using LB to make an engine in Basic.

Let me ask you this, does your web-browser have a special feature which pops up a Bible quote for every page you view? Does it replace all Google Ads with Jesus Tags? That might be a bit sacrilegious, but that's between me and my God.

As a matter of fact, my web browser is special, it's Opera, with image block and a special FlashBlock installation thing. I would recommend it to others.

All of you, have a good day. 

If some of you want to make fun of me, go ahead. Jesus said if someone slaps me on one cheek to let you hit the other also. I just thought I could put some finishing touches on the one that SSH made, but there was questions on the legality of it. 

First of all, I think one or more of you may have been too harsh on SSH.  He has been kind and helpful when some others weren't.

So... I already downloaded the Christian version of the AGS Editor. Is it legal for me to keep it?

I have downloaded the XVI hex editor. Is it legal for me to replace text in the Christian version of the AGS Editor?

What do the wise people say?

What do the other Christians in this forum think?

There didn't seem to be any all rights reserved in the copyright notice, does that mean anything?

Maybe I should just wait and see if Mr. Jones will release a Christian version...

I can be debugging my own Adventure engine in the meantime...

I downloaded SSH's special Christian version, Thank you for all the work, SSH! He made a from scratch font himself and other stuff. I was wondering if I can put some finishing touches on it, like when it says something about Larry Vales in it or just XQXQXQ filler, when you start it up, instead I could put Bible verses so when Christians start it up, it will give them Bible verses or something. CJ says to ask in the forums in the help file.

AGS is a powerful engine! 

it should be quite obvious that you commit a hundred sins every day that surpass this one in magnitude.

What sins?

I wish Santiago luck. I myself tried to encode my own adventure game engine due to my blue cup phobia, and I hope his attempt is more successful.

It's not a joke. I used Liberty Basic.

Hey, SSH, is this one legal and everthing? I opened it and it had a font, but I don't know if its an illegal one. -Thanks

I'm downloading the version from SSH, thanks..

I don't mean to be rude or make fun... But I just would like to know where it says in the bible that you will go to hell for using an engine that has a 20-year old font that is, more than likely, licensed to no-one by now? I have to know? And what does it have to do with losing your faith?

1 Timothy 1:19  Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

1 Peter 2:13  Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

Look, guys, I love you, and I'm sorry if I've gone to an extreme, because now people will think all Christians are weird or something.  But I sincerely try to live carefully. My wife sometimes also thinks I go to an extreme, but be patient with me, there was one point in my life, where I was careless about the Bible, and I'm trying to shape up.

I did take an IQ test I think, and the lady said something like I didn't have a big IQ but I was doing well with what I had. Sorry

Actually, you can already easily get this "conscience" version:

From: http://mp3licensing.com/help/index.html

no license is needed for private, non-commercial activities (e.g., home-entertainment, receiving broadcasts and creating a personal music library), not generating revenue or other consideration of any kind or for entities with associated annual gross revenue less than US$ 100 000.00

If you're not going commercial, you're fine with MP3. As for the font, create your own template that has no SQ4 fonts in it, then delete the original templates. Easy.

Thanks, let me think/read over these replies, I'm not up on all the legal ins and outs.  (I don't even know if the Editor has MP3 software in it)

I guess I don't want to download it to my hard drive if it has an illegal SQ4 font embedded in it. Now the MP3 issue, I'm not sure if that is for the decoding mechanism or the 'format' which I think is overduing it. Because that's like Henry ford charging you to drive a Ford every trip you make. If they want to be like that, I say hurray for Ogg Vorbis. 'licensing' the mp3 format for files sounds greedy. But respect for the decoding patents (if they exist) is another story.

If anybody else has any legality advice, it's welcome. I'm not crazy, but maybe I'm going to an extreme, not sure. Ags is powerful though.

Please Santiago, in all honesty I am begging you...for the sanity of everyone involved...put a stop to this madness. Accept the fact that by using the engine without MP3 support and by not using the font in your game that you have no possibility of copyright infringement from either of those aspects...and let this thread die!

This isn't a useless topic, because it involves careful living.

I think I'm ok when it comes to browsing, also the browser software does this to reduce bandwith usage.  But I try to respect web page copyrights.

Maybe I am going to an extreme, I'm not sure, but I'm doing what my conscience allows for. Each of us has a different conscience, and when we go against it, it ruins our faith. (Which sends us to hell after we die.)

I already know that the runtime is available without MP3, I'm talking about the editor.

AGS is a nice piece of work, and it probably wouldn't be too hard to do these 2 small alterations. (A version for sensitive conciences)
Totally take out the space quest 4 font from package.
Remove support for MP3 from Editor.
(Actually, I think Windows has licensed built in mp3 support, so this support is redundant!)
(Maybe we could see who owns patent, and ask of these issues)

Pretty please Mr. Jones

Also, the mp3 library used is an early public library that will allow people to sell games without a problem.  Don't believe me, though, just take a look at The Blackwell Legacy, Blackwell Unbound, Diamonds in the Rough, and Al Emmo (to name a few).

I'm not sure I understand. I thought Thompson made a big deal about owning the patents for MP3.

I'm not trying to bother people, but my own adventure game system that I made from scratch is so feature deficient, it's nothing compared to the power of AGS. It works, It's nice, but nothing. 

I'm not joking or anything, I just would like a version of AGS editor without MP3 and without the default speech font.

Quote:
'First of all, the default speech font in AGS is ripped from Space Quest 4. If you are going to distribute your game commercially, you should change this because it may make Sierra unhappy.'

I replaced it, but when I started a new game, it reappeared in a new game. Is it in the installation somewhere?

Please don't take offence at me, I just want a good engine (better than mine)

-Thanks

Hi, I'm trying to make my own adventure game system, but it's challenging. If Mr. Chris ever makes a version of the editor without MP3 support and the space quest 4 font, that would be great!

Repent and turn from sin to God.

   Thanks Mr. Chris for taking time for this.

I appreciate everybodys help! and Mr. Chris, I hope you make a version without anything illegal in it. I wanna be one of the first to get a copy!!!

SINCERE THANKS to everybody who cared!!!!!!!!!

Love, James

 

I think the best idea anybody has given me so far has been to buy a copy of Space Quest 4. Any other ideas to make the AGS editor legal to have on PC?

Thanks,

James

Thanks for all the replies, I think the button that brings out the SQ4 speech fonts is called "reset fonts". I think the fonts are embedded somewhere, because when I replace them with my own fonts, and then reset fonts, the SQ4 fonts appear out of somewhere. So, unless i'm totally mistaken or something, it's illegal for me to even have the editor on my PC because it has the SQ4 speech font embedded in it somewhere.

Thanks for all the replies and if anybody can help me or set me straight, please do so. (If my thinking is backwards or something) 

Love, James  8)

The game fonts are not embedded in the AGS  editor.  They are saved in game templates so when you create a new game from a tmplate you get what ever the template designer gives you.   

Thanks for everybody's replies.

Is it possible for me to remove the SQ4 fonts from the editor? Or the "template"? Because I replaced them in the editor, but at the push of a button, they misteriously re-appear. They're embedded somewhere I suspect.  Does anybody have a solution for me?

Thanks again.

-James

HI, I need a version of AGS editor without SQ4 font embedded, because I think the SQ4 game and stuff was copyrighted and I don't want to break the law just by having a copy of AGS editor on the PC. Thanks if anyone can help.
(I tried replacing the fonts, and it worked, but I think the SQ4 fonts were still embedded in the editor, because at the push of a button, they would reappear.)
I deleted the AGS editor temporarily until I can get a SQ4 speech-font less embedded version or until I can find out if SQ4 is public domain or whatever.
I still saved my game folder though,

(without the mp3 support in editor too)

If anyone can help, Thanks, I like AGS and don't want to be without it.
-James 8)

NOTE: It looks like SSH made a version without any issues (see page 3) 

  THANK YOU

Greetings to all...
I'm such a fool.
I'm no legal expert, but I just want to do everything the right way. It says in the Legal Information Page here at adventuregamestudio that: However, AGS uses some third-party components which have different license agreements which you will have to abide by in order to commercially release your game.
In particular:
Hq2x/Hq3x (graphic filters) - use the GNU Lesser General Public License, Version 2.1, February 1999.
I wanted to use MP3 but, I decided to go with OGG, because of the Legal side of stuff.
But I want to get this Hq2x thing sorted out. I downloaded the source of Hq2x and Hq3x to release with my game theoretically, but I don't know if Mr. Chris made any changes to it, because it says in GNU that I have to release the source to the changes.
I'm such an idiot, and I'm so confused when it comes to legal stuff.. 

Thanks for anybody's help...

                Love,
                 James

It says in the GNU that I have to enclude the source code to any changes of the:

Hq2x/Hq3x (graphic filters) - use the GNU Lesser General Public License, Version 2.1,
February 1999. 

Were there any changes?


Thanks a million,


       James