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#721
General Discussion / Re: London Riots
Sun 14/08/2011 23:22:08
Quote from: WHAM on Sun 14/08/2011 15:26:30
@Chicky: I personally believe that punishments for crime should be tougher all around. I truly want to believe that the majority of us humans are civilized and "good people", and that those few who break the law and loot and riot should be punished so heavily that they will either be removed from the society or forced to conform.

Maybe I am naive, maybe I am, as you say, "and angry teenager with a rant", but still I want to believe.

I want to add that I believe the only reason people defend actions like this, or seek to lessen the punishments for criminals, is due to these people being criminals on some level themselves. I see no other reason to defend such activity, which has no place in a civilized society's streets. If people want violent entertainment, let them have an arena and televize the figts, actually, lets just put all criminals in an arena and commercialize their deaths. This would be fine by me. Radical, tough, extreme, but hellishly effective.

Feel free to disagree, but think about it. Do we need prisons? Do we need to pamper criminals? Or could we put these creatures that are closer to beast than a person to some sort of use that could serve the rest of us?

I agree with lots of what you say. On one hand prisons are ideal for violent offenders (to protect the average person rather than for their own good)... instead I'd like prisons to be a last resort, and the average crim to be put on community service more often! Give them hard work, not a prison cell! Clear up the litter, mow the public park, scrape the chewing gum off pavements, tend to the flowers (ok now I'm pushing it).

Now that I think about it, what kind of punishment is locking somebody up anyway? It's like putting a child on the naughty step, but for longer and with more mental trauma, and with other kids who can give you tricks on the next best way to steal from the cookie jar! And the dad (prison guards) may slip you some sweets (drugs) if you're lucky.

However WHAM you lost me when you spoke about televising bloodshed :P It reminds me of something... I can't quite place it...

Oh yeah, the Middle Ages. This is 2011 not 1311! And just think of how many complaints would go through OFCOM!
#722
Quote from: ShadowRifter666 on Sun 14/08/2011 15:45:47
just fancy a bit of closure rather than leaving it floating around
Quote from: ShadowRifter666 on Sun 14/08/2011 20:50:56
just wanted some closure.

This seems mighty suspicious to me. Are you by any chance being sought by government agencies? I hear the cyber police can backtrace anything these days ;D

Quote from: ShadowRifter666 on Sun 14/08/2011 21:55:26
Is there an Admin person I can ask?

You don't find them. They find you.

(No seriously, if you're still so inclined somebody will likely contact you).
#723
General Discussion / Re: London Riots
Sun 14/08/2011 14:06:23
Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Tue 09/08/2011 17:18:46
Quote from: Atelier on Tue 09/08/2011 17:16:45
And in my book, if you have an attitude like that towards society, you don't deserve to be part of society. What is so wrong with that?

Because people make mistakes. These are *kids*. You think they should be just kicked out of society for a mistake at 16 years old?

Yes. By then they should know that destroying an innocent person's home, business, car etc is wrong. And nobody makes the accidental purposeful mistake of wearing their best hoody and going out for a few hours looting.

Aside from that, I'm astounded how anybody can actually defend them. Oh they are such poor souls. Their lives are so oppressive, so hard, in comparison to people dying from starvation and disease in Kenyan refugee camps. It's not fair how they're given the chance at a free education. It's not fair their life is served to them on a silver platter. Society must change! Actually no fuck that, why don't they change their attitude and be grateful for living in a country that strives to do everything for them?
#725
Atelier, obviously.....
#726
The Rumpus Room / Re: Happy Birthday Thread!
Sat 13/08/2011 18:12:18
Happy birthday wonkyth, and Tabata :)
#727
What is name of the place where owls live? Is it nest or roost? Or either?
#728
Wow Duzz, nice screen! Armageddon, very avant-garde :P

Quote from: Ponch on Sat 13/08/2011 05:54:25
I'm doing my best. But I'm afraid my game design may have been a little too ambitious. We'll see if I can make the deadline or not.  :-\

I second this. I may have to fold but here's one of the rooms to prove I did something :D



Every other day, easy-going Jonny Junior turns into his cruel, selfish alter-ego Donny, who is loud, rude, and aggressive to everybody around him. The relationship with his girlfriend is at breaking point, and pretty soon he stands to lose all his friends and family after an embarrassing episode at a party.

Out of the blue, Jonny is approached by an eccentric psychiatrist, who may have a solution to Jonny's problem...
#729
Adventure Related Talk & Chat / Scroll Wheels
Fri 12/08/2011 18:48:21
In game design, would it be safe to assume that everybody nowadays has a scroll wheel on their mouse?

I want to simplify things so I can remove tons of up/down buttons (I have multiple list boxes on the screen at one time). Instead, the player can scroll up/down by hovering over the list box and using the mouse wheel.

Flawed or not? Could there be any other alternatives to buttons? Discuss.
#730
Rock dat Boat

The night was calm, and not a soul troubled The Freebooter on its anchorage, somewhere far, far out at sea. The breeze caught the sails gently and furled the mighty flag; the colours of fearless pirate No-nose Jimbo! His ship was of the cruelest fashion; it bristled with cannons, and dealt the fiercest blows on the Seven Seas.

Accordingly, The Freebooter was crewed by the biggest bunch of bilge-sucking hornswagglers ever to have lived… hang on!

“Hearties! Nights be mighty lonely on the seas! Let’s share hammocks!”

I must apologise. The epicness of our story has been somewhat spoilt.
#731
General Discussion / Re: London Riots
Tue 09/08/2011 17:16:45
Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Tue 09/08/2011 14:07:36
EDIT: Wait I just reread the thread. Some of you are suggesting *shooting at them*? Like.. with guns?

Not with live ammunition ;) Talking rubber bullets, water cannons, and the like.

Quote from: Ali on Tue 09/08/2011 13:55:06
Quote from: Atelier on Tue 09/08/2011 11:36:25
In my opinion they lose their citizenship when they put on a balaclava and go out for a night of sticking their middle finger up at society.

In my opinion, and by coincidence the law, they don't.

Ok, but I ask myself why is it like that in the first place?

These people have destroyed whole communities (economically, physically, socially), so why are they shown leniency before during and after? I know it would be different if these were legitimate anger-fueled protests. But they're not! People are just calling on their mates, crawling out the woodwork, and going out for a bit of free late-night shopping. Anybody would be disillusioned to say these people have a cause. Their only cause is to loot phone shops and businesses then burn down flats and wreck cars for the lols. In one area they looted a charity shop. What the hell is the point in that?

And in my book, if you have an attitude like that towards society, you don't deserve to be part of society. What is so wrong with that?
#732
General Discussion / Re: London Riots
Tue 09/08/2011 11:36:25
It's worth mentioning that it's spread to Birmingham, Nottingham, Bristol, and Liverpool too. 99% of the people 'rioting' in these cities have never even heard of Mark Duggan.

Quote from: Ali on Tue 09/08/2011 11:27:04
I agree, most riots tend to calm down once the government start shooting civilians.

In my opinion they lose their citizenship when they put on a balaclava and go out for a night of sticking their middle finger up at society.
#733
General Discussion / Re: London Riots
Tue 09/08/2011 11:16:36
Quote from: WHAM on Tue 09/08/2011 09:42:30
1. Bring in the military
2. Authorize rubber bullets

I don't know whether this is a joke, but it makes perfect sense to me ;D

With no resistance there will never be pure discipline. I'd love to live in a world where anarchy is impossible. PM says he is putting 16,000 officers on the streets tonight, and canceling all police leave. Let's hope it goes with a no-restraint policy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

Just look at the video here. It's blatant disregard for authority. I wish they'd just go and beat the hoodies in the streets, or get mounted police and ride them down. These people are destroying homes and businesses, looting shops, some of them have done it for three nights in a row. The government needs to start showing serious aggression (soon, before it inevitably dies down), otherwise for me its image of feeble restraint will be perpetual. It's a good insight into memetic nature though.
#734
I prefer your version. Sinead's sounds like she's singing with multiple clones. When you say the 'timing' is off, I don't know whether you mean because of the London riots and all :P (ie, I didn't notice anything ???) Constructively, I think there needs to be more dubstep. I didn't hear a single ear-splitting drop. Please come back with a dubstep remix.
#735
My own entry is coming along ok I think. It will be my first game!

Quote from: Duzz on Tue 02/08/2011 00:58:21
It's been a long time since I've done anything in AGS, and MAGS should be a good way of getting back in to it. I think I've got a good idea too, so I'M IN.  :=

How's it going dude?
#736
Make steals on Contribution Thread. There is some pretty useful stuff there.
#737
AGS Games in Production / Re: Broken Quest V
Thu 04/08/2011 19:44:35
Quote from: GregsAnimation on Thu 04/08/2011 17:14:30
bump

>=@

Judging from the third screenshot this looks pretty funny := Good luck!
#738
My love has no limit, but my words are running out.

Do you remember that day in the snow, when you held out your hand to me? I see you now, holding out your hand to me. Your eyes were bright as stars, and your gaze melted my heart; then the clouds rolled over, and I fell into an abyss. I still scale the walls; abound with razor rocks of my own creation. Soon I will sit and dissect my dreams, in my disillusioned outer world.

My last three words carry the weight of my crippling burden… you never knew.
#739
Quote from: Duzz on Tue 02/08/2011 00:58:21
It's been a long time since I've done anything in AGS, and MAGS should be a good way of getting back in to it. I think I've got a good idea too, so I'M IN.  :=

Yay :) I think I may enter this one myself. Then I can win no matter what!

PS. I can also give myself a two month extension. Bring on the competition bitches!!
#740
The Rumpus Room / Re: Happy Birthday Thread!
Wed 03/08/2011 21:42:43
Happy Birthday loominous! Come back to visit sometime :-[
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