And to prove feminists aren't all fun-hating killjoys, I want to share a sample of a great parody comic highlighting some of the absurd stereotypes mentioned here:





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Show posts MenuQuote from: Danvzare on Wed 03/03/2021 18:34:10Well, it'd be interesting to hear her point of view, but I will say that it's not exactly news to me that there are women who like divisive comics and similar media too,
I would absolutely love to get you in the same room as my sister. She'd probably turn your entire worldview upside down.
For instance, look up Lady Death comics. That's what my sister likes.
And trust me, she does not give a crap about what any man thinks. She likes what she likes, because she likes them.
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 03/03/2021 18:34:10I wasn't trying to call you out personally, and I'm sorry if it came across that way, but I really wanted to comment on a pattern I've seen for quite a while now.
"oh sure it's awful, but it's only those kind of guys who do it and I'm obviously and visibly not that kind of guy", well I'd hate to break it to you, but people like to defend themselves.
If someone called you one of those straw-man argument man-hating feminists, you would probably be quick to point out that those types of people are awful, but you're not one of those types of people.
Don't paint everyone with the same brush, and don't complain when someone tells you not to.
That being said, I am a little bit sexist and a little bit racist (I'm probably even a little bit homophobic). It's ingrained into me through cultural osmosis. You probably are too.The question is, are you more than me?
At least I'm willing to question that what I believe might be wrong. You on the other hand, based on what I've read on this thread, seem quite adamant that nothing you believe in is wrong.
You need to question yourself more, re-evaluate your beliefs, and most importantly, stop going to articles written by people who think the same way as you. Diversify and question things more!
That's why I love talk to you. You're my way of doing exactly that.
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 03/03/2021 18:34:10I don't want to replicate any of the jokes I've heard there, but I will say that those jokes at the place I mentioned were really, really bad.
Also, of course they were all laughing at the same sexist and homophobic jokes, it's called reading the room. Trust me, you don't want to be the one guy to point out that this joke (or comment) is sexist, homophobic, or racist, in the middle of a friendly conversation. You aren't going to change them, you're just going to piss them off, and probably even make them worse (I'm not kidding, it's a psychological effect that happens).
I mean sure, if it goes too far, step in, but otherwise keep your mouth shut.
You don't stop that stuff by highlighting it every chance you get.
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 03/03/2021 17:42:05You're right, I made a typo!Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 01/03/2021 18:27:22Don't you mean the one of the left? Or both?
The expression on the doll to the right that I saw in a bargain bin some time ago unnerved me.
The one on the right looks stoned, the one on the left looks like it's about to murder me.
Quote from: SpicyNachosGraphics on Mon 01/03/2021 18:15:11Hello to you!
Hello! I am Nacho Ayala, a Spanish guy that has been around since 1979... I was here a looooong time ago, attended some Mittens, made some unforgettable friends, made no games... I have been the sprite artist of "Fountain of Youth" for almost 15 years... But now I am back to fly solo, with some mistakes learned, re encounter some old friends and make new ones. Hello to all!
Quote from: Mandle on Sun 28/02/2021 12:37:39That's idiotic, as long as you're not feeding them anything dangerous I don't see what's the problem.
And, if this was a mainstream social media platform I would now brace myself for the usual hate of "Don't feed wild animals you IDIOT!" and "Do you think animals are just there for your enjoyment, tourist???" kind of responses but this is AGS so I'm suuuure I'm safe from that here....
Quote from: Galen on Sun 28/02/2021 17:19:51Exactly! My thought was a stage microphone being tampered with.
Those birds are clearly in need of tuning. Sounds like a children's musical toy running out of battery.
Quote from: KyriakosCH on Sat 27/02/2021 09:00:23I recognize the other meme characters, but who's the guy to the left?
Pretty cool:
Quote from: TheFrighter on Sat 27/02/2021 09:08:22Now that you say it, they do have that Giger quality to them. To me, it's even more creepy because I mostly see them swimming with their feet underwater, so you only see glimpses of what's underneath at a time.
Yeah, a bit. Looks as the "facehugger" of the Alien's movies.
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Quote from: KyriakosCH on Thu 25/02/2021 22:25:53I wasn't scared of the eye tatoo guy until you put that image into my head!Quote from: Mandle on Thu 25/02/2021 22:21:56
I see a guy whose goal in life is to make children cry.
If so, one can do worse
But yes, I would probably be terrified if I saw him when I was a kid.
More so if he was walking backwards.
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 26/02/2021 17:57:06Yeah, the Bechdel test isn't a test on how feminist a story is or how good role models the characters are (also, where I'm from at least, "whore" is considered a severe slur, so well, not the greatest title...),
Completely random, but I think that formally this game passes Bechdel test in the very first minute, because there are two women talking about their life situation during introduction:
https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=45593.0
Yeah, the game title is... lol. I think it's a dark comedy, but I never played it through. It was a part of a Bake Sale (or similar event), and it is not in AGS database sadly, and I dont know where exactly to get it now :/.
Also, "The Cat Lady".
But then again, it's kind of a random way to test games too, more suitable for statistics rather than anything imo.
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 26/02/2021 13:19:15Oh, if only...Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 20/02/2021 21:51:11Having read that paragraph, all I can say is that no guy wants a girl like that. Except those jocks who you always see playing the bully in 80s movies.
I think this paragraph should be required reading for every man trying to write a female love interest, this sentence in particular;Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 20/02/2021 21:51:11With a quote like that, I thought it was going to be about anime girls (I've heard similar things being said in lots of reviews for bad anime). Instead it's about "Cool Girls".
You are not dating a woman, you are dating a woman who has watched too many movies written by socially awkward men who’d like to believe that this kind of woman exists and might kiss them.
Which are obviously girls that only exist in the mind of a teenage frat boy. You know, the kind of guy everybody (and I do mean everybody) hates.
Quote from: Matti on Sat 20/02/2021 18:41:32Wow, most of it just sounds like your bad garden variety of bad sitcom stereotypes paired with bad romantic comedy stereotypes, but the fourth and the last points on the list really jumped out at me with how crude they were in their sexism.Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 20/02/2021 16:22:26
As for The inner world and Guard Duty, I only saw the screenshots and thought they looked nice but never got around to playing the games because there have been so many other games I'd rather play, but this sounds disappointing yet not surprising
As for the Inner World, it really is a pity. Despite the sexism the game is rather charming, but that alone stopped me from even trying out the second part. Here's a bad review that illustrates the portrayal of women in the game:Spoiler
"However, I cannot overcome the subconscious issues with this game: [spoilery]
- The main character Robert falls in love with the first woman he ever sees, of course, right at first sight.
- The main character Robert comments on a picture of the barmaid when she was young with: "What time does to women". The old barmaid has sagging breasts (there is no comment about the old men). Hello misogyny...
- The only time, two female characters (love interest Laura and toad) are on the screen at the same time, a "catfight" is created. Of course, two female characters cannot interact without hating each other [sarcasm].
- Only flirting with the toad leads to success, there is no other way. The flirting intensifies the catfight between Laura and toad because the toad "steals" the main character from Laura. What the ♥♥♥♥.
- The main character Robert does not manage one physical task. Self-talk of Robert: "Laura (Love interest) will laugh at me because I ask her for help". Laura then actually says: "Sure, we just don't talk about it". The toad then says "Well, I like it when men show weakness". Which does this say of the image of men in this universe?
- When the father of the Laura (love interest) is rescued and sees his daughter Laura with the main character Robert, the father becomes directly defensive and hostile: he has "always been afraid" that his daughter will meet a boy. Even though there isn't any declaration of love from Laura (Love interst) to the main character Robert so far. Robert could also be a stalker, but the father of course only recognizes one possible lover.
- In a flashback: an applicant only talks to king, even though the queen is sitting right next to the king. The queen only talks in private to the king. Which power does the queen have?
- In general, positions of power are only occupied by men. Main character, the villain, guards, king, mechanics, scientists, wind monks, black market sellers are all men. Women appear only as love interest, barmaid (also love interest), mother, wife (queen) or "nasty b**ch" (toad). All female characters are equipped with so-called feminising gender signifiers (lipstick, eyelashes). Otherwise, they have no other personality markers in their appearance, no characterising thing. Just lipstick and lashed. Wow.
- When Laura (Love interest) is petrified, main character Robert kisses her (no consent whatsoever). After she is saved, she first thanks Robert for the rescue, apologizes for always "teasing" him because she really likes him (That's not how this works what the ♥♥♥♥). She kisses him. Then finally she slaps him in the face "and that was for the kiss earlier, you didn't think I'd notice". Main char Robert lies on the floor, looks very happy and says "it was absolutely worth it". Yikes."[close]
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