Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Tue 02/01/2007 14:38:50Quote from: Ishmael on Mon 01/01/2007 08:27:25The American mind is so corrupted.I'm not 100% sure exactly what you meant by that ... but I'm sick and tired of the rest of the world lumping all Americans under the same umbrella. Just because our President is destroying our country and our mass media exploits that fact doesn't make us all war-mongering capitilist pigs, I assure you.
And to show that Darth is consistant with this view, he's even gone on the record defending the French against people who criticised them for not getting involved in the War on Terror. And it's something that I appreciate.
Quote from: ildu on Tue 02/01/2007 15:54:54
I guess that's what all of us 'non-Americans' are objecting to. The ridiculous and extremely arrogant notion that the world is divided into Americans and non-Americans. It wouldn't be the same if you lumped the rest of the world together into one, as it would for us to lump Americans together, because you're simply just one country. As a non-American, I'm lumped together with South America, Canada, Russia, Europe, China, Japan, India, Africa, etc.
I think you're missing Darth's point... He's not lumping all non Americans together and distinguishing one group as Americans from another that's non Americans. He's trying to say that no matter what criticisms have been targeted at one country's government or history, you can't lump the whole nation at current like that. And the example I posted above where Darth defended the French is proof.
Please don't confuse the issue. You're making Darth out to be arrogant when he's actually trying to promote good cultural attitudes that're NOT based upon stereotypes.
Anyway...
I don't think all Americans are corrupt. Perhaps the system or the government, but I don't think the people are. I think essentially they want to do good.
The problem I think is they were misguided by a lot of false information. Stuff that tried to verify things like "Iraq has WMDs" or "Iraqis will great us a liberators" or "Mission Accomplished" or "We're winning the war".
US Citizens are starting to realise things aren't working in Iraq and in the War on Terror. There's a growing disillusionment in the government's ability to fight such a War. Consider the resignation of Rumsfeld... whoa hold on...


Sorry, I just get so giddy when I mention the resignation of you-know-who...
Anyway, consider that and the recent midterm elections. Clearly America is looking for a better way to try and do right.
Let's hope they do. I'll say this: I'm feeling a little more confident about this year.