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Aye, I think it is a one-off. I remember a time when adventure games  featured constantly in top ten list. It just doesn't happen as much anymore. Sure you get the odd game like this one, but they're very rare.

As for marketing adventures for today's audience, I'm not too sure.  It might work or it might bomb. Sometimes the gaming market is very hard to predict. 

For example, I remember a time when two guys cobbled together an adventure game that sold oodles and started a trend in interactive movies. Yet, no one saw it coming.

The game?

Myst.

DG: Point and Click adventure games aren't dead. Check out the Nancy Drew adventure games, they're selling like hotcakes. Also a lot of children's games are point and click adventure games, just cause they aren't for us older peeps doesn't mean they aren't adventure games!

Yeah, cause I see Nancy Drew games all the time in the top ten lists for best-selling games. Sarcasm aside,  ten years ago I remember games like Day of the Tentacle and Sam n Max featured in the charts all the time. You don't see good quality (or any quality) point n click adventure games selling like they used to. Which is why I say they're commercially dead.

I think game genres are starting to merge together to form hybrid genres.

For example, Deus Ex combines elements from FPS and adventure games. Perhaps it's not that adventure games are dead, but more so the techniques used have merged into other genres (or can be merged into other genres).

However, I do feel point 'n' clicks are commercially dead. And I'm happy about that, because it means the scene is free for indie gamemakers to take over.

Um... there... is... a warning on all those movies...

I never saw a racial warning on any of those movies. If you're refering to film classifications (G, PG-13, R, etc) yes they are warnings but there're not warning audiences on the depictions of racism.

For example, American History X was rated R by the MPAA for graphic brutal violence including rape, pervasive language, strong sexuality and nudity.

O Brother was rated PG-13 for some violence and language.

According to IMDB, In The Heat of the Night was "approved" by "suggested for Mature Audiences".

None of the films feature warnings at the start of the films over "racial depictions". As for as I'm aware, the MPAA does not rate films over racial depictions.

The reason I bring this up is because this is what flinnt wants for Frank The Farmhand -- a warning on the racial depicitions in the film.

And such a warning is stupid for reasons we've explained previously in this thread.

The whole rebelling thing is getting off-track from the original argument. But nevertheless...

My point of view is simple: Frank The Farmhand doesn't need a racial warning for depicting such violence. Why? Because it's depicting it. It's not saying, "Hey, dudes! Please your good klan buddies by setting fire to the nearest non-white person!"

If you put a warning on it, then you might as well put warning on films like O Brother Where Art Thou, American History X, Mississippi Burning, and In The Heat of the Night. And if you slap a warning on In The Heat of The Night, then you're going to have a very pissed-off Sidney Poiter:



Don't fuck with MISTER Tibbs!

In The Heat of The Night was made to be shocking in a period where racial tensions where pretty high. To slap a racial warning on it decreases the message behind it.

Likewise, with Frank The Farmhand. It's a satirical game. The website's plot even says: "A conspiracy involving the american president, religious fanatics, middle-eastern terrorists and some surfdudes. He will travel around the world trying desperately to save both his neck and the world itself." It basically functions the same way as 'O Brother Where Art Thou?'. To slap a warning on it decreases the value of the game. You might as well just play "The VIllage of Happy Nice People Where Nothing Goes Wrong Ever". But trust me, it's a shitty game.

That is why I think if you're so, so offended by the racial depictions, you need to refill your beer-bong.

I wonder what Comedy Central's top comedian has to say?

Darth:
Maybe they should digitally edit all weapons into walkie-talkies too.

And instead of 'nigger', they should say 'African-Americans who weren't appreciated at one point in history'.

flinnt:
I'm not getting worked up. You're the one going nuts whenever you hear the word 'nigger'.

To those of you who don't seem to of read my text properly, I suggest you go back and re read, as you'll see that I say the game should come with a ‘racism warning' noting that there is racism in the game (unless you are going to try and find an argument in the fact that watching a scene of KKK trying to burn a black boy, isn't showing a racist scene ?!?!?) I didn't say the author was racist (again, for those of you who seem to have trouble deciphering sentences,) I merely said I found the racist scenes offensive. It's just purely my opinion.
To the comment made by DGMcphee *Sigh* I thought this forum was for over 16 year olds ? Grow up, and if you have nothing constructive to say, don't reply to my posts â€" unintelligent remarks bore me.

First off all, Frank the Farmhand is about as racist as Stevie Wonder converting to Buddhism.

Secondly, it's an amatuer computer game that portrays a KKK burning. That doesn't mean that the scene is racially offensive or the game is racially offensive. You haven't even considered thingys like context or authoritorial intent. I mean, it's like claiming O Brother Where Art Thou is racially offensive cause it has a KKK scene.

Thirdly, if you don't like my unintelligent comments, piss off. You've only been here for, what? A whole day? And already you're making misguided comments about a game and me. Hell, there are people who have been picketing a movie theatre for the last week because it was going to play 'Birth of a Nation' (which contains ACTUAL racially offensive scenes). They're doing something that seems a little more important. Meanwhile, you are wasting your life away picketing a game that's a VERY minor blip on Professor McSmartyBrain's Racist-o-meter.

Finally, go refill your crack-pipe, hippy!

Bollocks to that. Go picket 'Birth of a Nation', you tree-hugging hippy!

Wasn't that a Les Manly game?

If so, they made a sequel called 'Lost in LA' (I think).

Oh, Gil. You crack me up plenty! 

But that's just like using half a rendering package.

You say that like it's a bad thing. 

You're all wrong!

HELM WINS!

It wouldn't be listed in features because it's not a feature. It's a rendering standard.

All the best 3D rendering programs use Zverily these days. It's a sign of a modern 3D program.

I think the cartoonish genre seems like a decent one to use with AGS because AGS works with cel animation. Granted, you can you more photo-realistic stuff, but not everyone is a Rembrandt and not everyone has a blue-screen set-up.

But there are shining examples of non-cartoonish adventure games. Gabriel Knight, Under A Killing Moon or Police Quest 4, for example. It's just a matter of finding them, I guess.

I get a thrill out of playing Stickmen and Ultimerr -- just as much a a thrill as from making them. They were the kind of games I made for myself -- ones that I made to make me laugh.

However, I do see how someone could have difficulty playing their own game, mainly because they know how to complete it so the drive to finish it isn't there.

I threw in some Dan Brown references too. See if you can pick 'em.

Incest and beastiality. The choice of every good comedian's daily breakfast.

Being Aussie, I guess you probably haven't heard many redneck jokes.

For something to be funny it usually must be out of the ordinary or shocking. Once it crosses a line, it ceases to be funny for some people. I'm just not that sensitive.

You obviously don't know much about Australia.

And the whole "I-fucked-my-mother-cause-I-come-from-the-South-hyuck-hyuck" bit isn't shocking. It's stale. It's been done to the point of cliche. Nowadays, I don't really see anything funny about rednecks and inbreeding, not because I'm offended, but because I've heard the joke too many times. It's people who can twist the joke (e.g. The Simpson's episode where Cletus goes to parenting school -- "Pa, I cut my finger on the screen door again!" -- or the Futurama episode with the Hillbilly on the moon) that I find funny.

But I should also remind you that we are talking about kids here. It's a little difficult for most people to find child abuse or sex with minors (related, redneck or whatever) funny, no matter how sensitive a person you might be. Sure, you get the odd Michael Jackson joke here and there, but I doubt you'll ever see Paul Reubens doing a stand-up routine on the wonders of child pornography.

But like I said, we're getting WAAAY off-topic now. So... back to senseless violence in computer games!!

* DGMacphee hacks everyone to pieces with a chainsaw!