
once deleted and reinstalled steam worked perfectly with my new password.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: LimpingFish on Sun 29/05/2011 21:25:48
Yep, it's a scam.
The address lucasarts@copyright-compliance.com is also registered to BayTSP, which means you haven't been contacted by LucasArts themselves.
As for the waiver you signed, the "Office of Copyright Affairs and Mediation Services" doesn't seem to exist, according to Google.
Also:
"I will be aware that establishing internal file downloading systems such as Steam/www.steampowered.com on local area networks (or “LANsâ€), enabling them to trade copyrighted files without accessing the public Internet is no less illegal and presents many of the same problems as larger P2P systems. "
...is absolute nonsense.
The whole thing is a scam.
Quote from: Baron on Sun 29/05/2011 03:54:58
I'd also be interested in the content of the waver. I agree with Calin etc. that you signed it under duress and that it should not be construed as an admission of guilt. I also agree that you are the victim here, and that you should consider legal recourse (provided the facts are as you stated and you truly believe yourself to be innocent of piracy). Basically the company has defrauded you of money and/or services and defamed your good name by labeling you as a pirate. If you are contemplating legal action you should collect all correspondence on this matter and print it.
I must say it is unfortunate that you deleted the game in question, since it would be the only hard evidence of whether or not it was a pirated copy. Presumably Lucas-Arts would be able to verify that if subpoenaed. It may not matter: if it was legit then you've been wronged by Steam (fraud and defamation). If it was pirated then you've been wronged by Steam (fraud and piracy on their behalf). In fact, you could probably save money by reporting Steam as the purveyor of pirated goods and get their ISP to shut them down. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
Quote from: Barbarian on Sun 29/05/2011 00:39:40
I'd be curious to see the email from LucasArts and the Agreement Erenoth was told to sign (and who told him to sign it, and under threat of what legal action?)
I mean, if the game was bought legitimately, there was no account sharing involved, no piracy involved, no hacked account problem, no wrongdoing on Erenoth's part, then yes I agree that Steam should not have banned/closed his account on him and they should have been able to help him resolve things.
Quote from: Barbarian on Sat 28/05/2011 07:08:16
Major bummer man.
In hindsight, I guess you shouldn't have signed anything admitting guilt to pirating that game if you didn't.
I guess you should count yourself lucky in the sense that you only lost access to around 30 games.
I know that's still a fair chunk of money and games, but some Users (such as myself) have over 100+ games purchased via Steam.
I've never had any account or billing problems with Steam, and I always keep an up-to-date anti-virus running, firewall, never share my account login details with anyone and keep things legit.
They are rather fussy about anyone suggesting they support piracy in any way on their forums, but, I feel your pain, and DRM is a pain-in-the-aaa and doesn't stop piracy at all, (and Steam in itself is a form of DRM, but it's more acceptable than most, such as when compared to something like UbiSoft's horrible "always must be connected to internet while playing, even a single player game, or get dropped from the game", or some games that install some DRM crap that's equivalent to malware), and often times seems to "punish" the legitimate paying customers rather than the Pirates.
When it comes down to it, as you already signed something admitting to "guilt of piracy" on your part, then you might be out of luck in this case. If you still wanted to use Steam, then, you'd probably have to start all over again with a brand-new account, and any games you had bought before are lost and would have to be re-bought for your new account if you wanted to play any of those same games again.
Or, you can look at alternatives such as http://www.gamersgate.com/
If you had tons of money to burn and wanted to pursue the matter with a Lawyer, then good luck with that.. but, chances are you won't have a leg to stand on (especially if you already signed something equivalent that basically admits to "guilt of piracy" on your part), you just end up wasting your time and money, add stress to your life, and if you look at the big picture, it's not worth it. Steam has a team of lawyers on their side, and basically their wall-of-text EULA already preemptively covers their butt against most cases or claims against them.
I still like using Steam, it's convenient, I have easy access to my games Library all in one interface, and about 95+% of the time if I do buy a game I'll wait 'til it's on a good discounted sale price. But, I've been cutting back on my spending, so I only perhaps get the odd deal once in a while for some game I may have had my eye on for some time that I really wanted.
Anyways, where was I.. I think from the details you've given, you might be fighting a lost-cause if you try to pursue it. So, like I suggested, you might just have to cut your losses and start anew with a fresh account, or use some other method to get games (Such as GamersGate or Retail Stores).
Best regards.
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