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So then I would suggest replacing roger with a non descript template character that one can easily paint over and not Roger Wilco from Space Quest.

dunno how I missed this post, but I think it's what should be done as well. A character that is few colors, good keyanimation, not too many frames, and which is absolutely nondescipt so it just psychologically forces the designer to go in and edit his base frames.

If nobody else is willing to do this, I can.

Nondescriptor in Plain Quest

Ideally, the character should be naked.

DON'T FUCK WITH ME, MAN

But we made it just fine in Mittens 03

The only internet petition I'd sign would be the one about abolishing the concept of internet petitions. Write a real fucking letter to the company, using your own words, sign it , put it in an envelope, go to the post office and mail it. Annoying internet and the ease of boredom.

Even when girlfriends or wives attend mittens, it's more because they're involved in the scene in some way than just 'here is my family'. They're also adults, so that makes activities easy to do.

A teacher is supposed to be presenting the curriculum material in as clear and helpful manner as possible. He's not supposed to go off on wild pro/con Darwinism tangents, unless that's within the curriculum. If it is, you're fucked.

Lorena, thank you for co-hosting. You are very nice

Andail: looking forward to getting together again.

Nacho, thank you for organizing Mittens. I enjoyed my time there. The complains do not mean I didn't, and a good sense of perspective should be applied to realize my issues with the organizing were very minor ones and didn't stop me from having a good time.

Matt: you are on holiday. I am on holiday. We're all on holiday. If we're going to have holidays together, we should all come half-way in what we want to do. "giving a good slap for being inconsiderate" to people isn't as easy a process as you make it sound like. I'd rather people took special care on their own. I don't act in Mittens as if I'm with my mates back home, stupid or silly and they'll sort me out if I go out of line, as my mates back home didn't pay 1,000 to be in my company that night.

You say you'd like to hear about all the other wonderful stuff people talk of in mittens besides AGS stuff. Well that always happens, as far as I can tell. Being drunk or not drunk has nothing to do with this. Let's not make a strawman out of the argument, it was never either GET DRUNK vs. TALK ABOUT AGS.

Consenting adults can do as they like, AGA. I'd just like to know a bit in advance if Mittens is going to go from a bunch of friendly mitteneers engaged in group fun and activities, to a group of singular concenting adults, only aligning their individual destinies for enough time to decide in which pub they'll go next. I am not saying it was that this year, but if it's going to get closer and closer, I do not really care to participate as much. I can see as many drunk people as I want here.

This years mittens was nice, I was more annoyed by bad service than the drinking, but that's an issue too. I discuss this here and not in Mittens because I didn't want to spoil the mood and get into arguments. I am not telling you what to do. I DID tell you what to do when I was hosting, and my opinion was 'no excessive drinking, no drug use' and when you Berian, got drunk and poked me with a bottle I didn't complain or call you on it because it was an isolated incident and I am not your mother, and because it was funny. But if it's going to be more and more drunk people which I'll have to deal with drunk-gloves on, it will become taxing. When people, half-drunk, get up in your face, while you've had a really really rough night and urge you to fight them, you know the drinking isn't helping.

The Helm group, and the non-Helm group.

I understand what you mean, but I want you to know I am not encouraging any 'schism' in the group. I just don't like to drink a lot and a night out in town at pubs at wet-shirt contests and karaoke (which, as a Greek I suspect I will never understand the appeal of) does not excite me. If other people would rather not do that as well, here's your two groups, Helm influence notwithstanding. This being said, and while the night wasn't good for me, I did follow you to a pub and I did have my Guinness with Grundy and the rest of you and I tried to play along. Maybe it'll be best if everybody comes half-way in their social desires, and the social desires of others in attendance of Mittens.

The bigger the group gets, and the more lack of Andailism to push us towards specific activities, the more there'll be splinters and people just going off doing their own thing. This could be avoided, simply enough, by Mittens being far away from civilization, for one. Then people extending some courtesy in what they're used to doing, while in Mittens. You can be a drunkard all you want in real life, but Mittens you should make an effort to be sober. I suffer from short bursts of numbing depression, in real life. I am not a predominantly happy guy. It happens in Mittens, as everywhere else, and when situations arise that push me even more, it's difficult to maintain a healthy 'HELLO, I AM HEEELM' attitude at all times, but I try, 'cause it's Mittens. People should try to be their best because other people paid 1,000 dollars to come meet them.

How about not drink?

Please supply original photo used for reference, remove facial properties if you'd understandably wish not to let anyone know who it is, so people can help you with likeness and form translation from photo to art. There's not much to be said besides the metioned lack of confidence that tomato spoke of in the technique you've shown so far, so it might be good to recieve help in the translating reference aspect of it.

Nowdays it's red Les Paul studio. I only use an old (NOT NEW LINE, IMPORTANT)



stompbox for distortion. From that signal, I go directly into the Audigy 2 ZS external rack, and from henchforth into a neat little plugin called Native Instruments Guitar Rig 2 in which I go through this amp set



and then through this effects rack



and I end up sounding like this.

HAHAHA ! SUFFER!!

"will keep people interested when they download AGS"

if roger stops them making a game they weren't cut out to make an AGS game.

I agree, in theory. But that's kind of a slippery slope though, because a new user sees roger, the gui, the sample graphics, it all adds up perhaps to a not so good first impression. A good first impression won't make your game for you, but perhaps you might see ags now and have a bad impression and not touch it for months or years before you return to it and realise how awesome it was all along.

Yes, I'd agree. This kind of comes back to the whole issue of the demo game again - I think there was a team who were going to take on the demo game, lead by Joseph DiPerla, but I'm not sure what happened to that.

hahaha


Anyway, about new or old roger, I think if you're going to have a template game like demo quest that is editable and the graphics can be re-used by the users, then you might as well have very good graphics.

What I am certain of, is that the classic sierra rendered gray GUI REALLY has to go.

Any advice?

Take up prostitution

Yes. Getting yourself raped will solve everything.

I am back as well. Trip was uneventful and good. I am now with my cat, usual strange mixture of tired relief and anxious regret that signifies Mittens was a success.

HOTU has a scan of the manual. Please download and read it.

It's Dreamweb. It's good. Play it again. READ THE MANUAL BEFORE YOU DO.

Must ... resist ... horrible ...

Be strong!