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I'll tell you when you're old enough, son. 

EDIT: 400th post!

About the content; I ment.. even the kind of murderers like terrorists, serial killers or what so ever, who are we to decide over a human life, if we would, we are just as bad as them self..

We are the ones being murdered and terrorized.

They have spam on the internet now?

ever since they had porn on the internet...

I think i'm going to take his email adress... and steal the money for myself!  Heh, sucker...

Fake butt.

fake butt was in MI4, prosethetic butt anyway.

Man, i was going to say nihilism by captain muchly...

King, you dont seriously have a book like that for your children, do you?

I don't have kids... and no, i was joking...

Err, sorry.  I just realized how unclear i said that...

Not necessarily the best entry, but certainly the best idea.

Congrats!

Who deserves to die?  Except for very very very extreme cases (Hitler, is one)

There's your answer...
Even though i agree with you, i couldn't help in farlander...

This kinda reminds me of the Johnny cash song "mercy seat"...

It happens.  Innocent people go to jail and get on death row, but i think it's impossible to get a perfect system.  It happens.  It's sad, but it happens and there's no way to avoid unjustly punishing innocents.  If you're innocent, you should be unafraid to die, since your innocent.

(man, people post here fast...)

In one of my kid's books dick killed 4 people and raped someone... it was called "don't be a dick!"

[want]

Nikolas, about kids that killed for no apparant reason, they were probably insane.  If it's what it sounds like (a murder suicide) then that would be my guess...

"Is it simply to make an example? If this is the case, then I am forced to say that Americas' laws and society are based in fear. Not in logic. Not in education. Not in training. Not in criminal prevention. In fear! I don't find that particuarly good for a society."

IMO most legal systems are partly based off of fear.  It's to keep them from doing something horrible again, and to punish them.  There are benefits from getting rid of him, that i can think of at the moment--
1.  He attacked guards on a regular basis.
2.  He was raping other inmates. (i know it happens in prison, but...)
3.  Taxpayers don't have to support a murderer and gang leader

I know you believe in redemption, however the person also has to want to change before they actually can.

That would be a reason why it couldn't be done, not why it shouldn't be done. 

And more importantly, schoolbusses full of children?  I say wire that bitch up!

*ahem
sorry...

Sweet merciful crap... i just realized what that was...

Williams made a bigger mistake than probably any of us have. I'm sure he learned from it. But if you forever condemn him, you might as well forever condemn ever other person on the planet who was once spiteful but has learnt from their actions.

Everyone keeps talking about it like he made a mistake.  It wasn't.  Killing four people with a shotgun isn't an accident.  He did it to prove he was tough, not because of circumstance.  This guy wasn't "young and stupid", he was a gang member.  The only reason he would regret it is because he was going to die, and he couldn't do it all over again.

Where is the line then. A scumbag that kills one should be killed by the goverment? One who rapes 100 women/children?

It doesn't quite work like that...

First of all, someone who kills another person is not automatically put on death row.  It takes an extremely large crime to get the chair-something this man committed.  He started a gang, and shotgunned four people.  That's pretty damned big, if you ask me.  In trial, the judge decides what punishment this guy deserves.  THEN they're put on death row, and have chance for parole.  It's not just "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth".

That's a shame... but what the doctors tell you?  Bullshit.  Absolutely.

My oldest brother, Alexander, was born early without his throat connected to his stomach.  The doctors messed up the surgery so many times, it would take a small book to tell of it.  He lived through it, and they said he could never play an instrument, do any sports, or any kind of running.  He's now studying law in St. Johns, and:
-takes me to go swimming a few times a week
-runs laps around the block every summer
-and plays the trumpet for the school pep band.

Don't listen to them.  You'll be fine!

EDIT:

How the hell did you break your knee playing ping pong? Please explain me!

You should probably go look up squash about now...

You don't believe in redemption, then?

I never said that.  I said it was hard for people to change their way of life.  Many prisoners have redeemed themselves, i just don't believe this is the case.

But Im sure none of this matters to you because you have taken the American Justice Never Fails 101 class.

And no one ever said it never fails.  I find myself happier believing that i'm protected by it, but such is not the case.  Many innocent people go to jail unjustly, but many more guilty people do their time.

Wonder what would have happened if he killed 25 people and pleaded insanity

He'd be in a rubber room for the rest of his life being fed meals with happy pills hidden in them and a syringe up his butt...

I do believe 25 years (especially 6 in solitary confinement) is enough to turn your way of thinking around.

Sometimes, that's not the case.  It's hard to just change your way of life, and completely change your actions just because of a damp hole you're locked in... especially if you know that if you play your cards right you can get out.
He shotgunned 4 people.  He tried to kill jail guards, and threw chemicals at them.  He wasn't some kind old guy feeding cornbread to "Mr. Jingles".

t seems that American system is based on fear and not on right vs wrong.

Somewhat true, actually.  A bad man both instills fear, and should be kept away from respectful citizens, but should also be punished.  Half and half, really....

I really don't see how the american justice system did any wrong here.  The man was a gang founder and leader.  He killed four people, which was proven in a court of law.  It seems to me like capital punishment, in this case, was (to paraphrase george washington) a "grim necessity".

And shitar, I haven't read his books and (i'm guessing) squinky didn't either.  But it looks to me like Arrested Development from this point of view:  the criminal father goes to jail, becomes extremely religeous and makes all kinds of books and videos.  The second he gets out, he's the same old bastard he was before.  Except in this case, the man committed crimes far worse.

I'm confused...

My guess would be wetting himself...

Warcraft 2.  Such a nostalgic feeling, it makes my stomach feel queasy and my bowels shifty.  Dead serious.

What?  You wanna search that?!  IT WAS PLANTED I SWEAR!!

I don't think the police really care to search computers because of a piracy tipoff--it's just too much hassle for too little spoil.