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Hi Vince! Will we get to play together soon? 

Go team Grundislav! On his birthday 

You sir should pimp Femspray for all the categories. I highly enjoyed it.

Good job abstauber! I learnt a lot. Also that site for colours is awesome.

I suggested the last one and never had time to enter... I think it might be a curse Ryan. However I'm up for another OROW soon 

Oh I never knew it was pick of the month once. I apologise. Still I think the game should be considered for a nomination. It rocks.

And Ryan, I will make Cosmos Quest 4! And will make it just like Cosmos Quest 3.

Eeek!

Fading Shades

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1140

I absolutely love this game, and it hasn't had any of the attention it deserves. If you want a challenge, atmosphere, beautiful images and sound then this game is for you.
It really does deserve an award.

If you like funny/weird games then how about:
Femspray
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1154
Re-agent Orange
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1125
BESIEGED: Or How to Get Out of A Castle.... Without Being Catapulted
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1111
Paul Moose
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1195
Jonny and the sweet fragrance of feces
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1186

Some games that have made me laugh over the last year or so.

[purposely]

Ok Snarky I'll explain my view/points a little more clearer:

From my understanding: The database is a collection of ags games that are user submitted, which are indexed in genre, length, type and cups. My point was, for example having half of the database entries without any of these fields completed would make them unsearchable, therefore it wouldn't be a complete database. I know it wouldn't be as drastic as this in reality, but there would be a difference if a potential 5 cup game was chosen not to be rated by the author, therefore it would be least likely to be found and therefore would be a loss to the community/potential players. To prevent this I'm suggesting to add the disclaimer. It would mean no drastic change to how the database is built and structured, and also I think it would be fair for the game designers who don't want their work to be "judged" and to the ags panel/community, that is all. It's a thing that the majority of people who submit their games already expect this so why shouldn't it be as a rule? As such as the rule for the game must be submitted in the database for it to be able to voted for the awards. 

The point of the ratings and the adding of the new genres and things a couple of years back was to make it easier to search for games. So my point was: by having entries in the database purposely not being rated would be taking a step back in the database's evolution. Also there is a difference of between a waiting-to-be-rated game and a game that has been purposely unrated. I just don't think that the community who vote and nominate games for awards are going to be swayed with the game's rating in the database. As the recent few threads have shown, the community can/will either ignore the ratings, challenge them or accept them. In addition if any such disagreement takes place about a game I'm sure it would be resolved before the awards, hence no damage to the chances of that game's award success.   

As of the preconceptions of the new player I agree, that is why I suggested the option to hide the panel's comment.


I just don't understand why however more pages/threads about this kind of thing we never seem to have came up with the ultimate solution and just gone with it. It seems like at least one person will never agree with an idea. Also I promised myself I wouldn't post in one of these threads again.. whoops!

How about adding a disclaimer that by posting your game in the database, then you accept that there will be a rating of your game by a panel for organisational purposes only and if you don't agree then why don't you just make a post in the completed games forum instead.

Or how about giving the option to the game makers to hide the panel comment once it has been made? Although the comment usually justifies the rating, disgruntled game makers might prefer not to remind the potential players of the games' pros and cons. Which seems to be the thing a lot of people are biting on to with these rating rants.

However purposely unrated games in the database makes the previous ratings pointless and makes the search tool utterly useless.

I don't want to correct you Snarky, but commercial games aren't rated and either are demos, so I doubt it will put potential buyers off. Unless you are commenting on the possible previous free and rated games of that same developer, which surely shouldn't be given special treatment rating wise because they are trying to sell something...

Also same thing for the awards, I understand that the game needs to be in the database for it to be eligible to vote for it, but hiding/delaying the rating/comment to win an award seems a little wrong to me.

As of the episodic games point, I understand, but I think the first game should be rated then if the author wants to challenge that rating they can with using the other instalments as evidence. Seems like the fairest way to me.

Noms done
Reading through that list sure made me reminisce about all the games I've played this year. It's a shame that some games that I loved this year aren't that well known, but fingers crossed for those authors.  

Black and white YMCA? 

I would be most willing to discuss the topic, but not really in this thread.

Well I see you guys have been busy then 
To be honest I'm disappointed in the reason behind all of this game removal.
I think I'm going to start a little side project and give all you AGSers the glory cups you want, and you may deserve.
My view on the whole panel thing is clear. It's for the database, ie computing a subjective medium into a number or "score" so that it is easily organised and indexed. Not to be an official review of the game. Increasing the rating because they tried a little harder this time would corrupt the system and would in-turn affect the whole community. The comment is just to justify the rating, to avoid confrontation and suggest weaker areas to be improved.

Man. I wish space pirates got 2cups... before I turned it into a Demo of course 

As for Cosmos Quest, I'm sad I don't have the opportunity to play these games, and now I know I will definitely never play them.

Even though I haven't played the games, I have faith that Harg had good and sensible reasons for removing the games. Once you post a game in the database it starts to belong to the community in some form and it is very sad when games are removed for whatever reason. I have faith that maybe even better versions of the games or completely different more awesome games are going to appear in the future from him.

I really hope Harg will explain himself or at least show himself in the forums again. If not I'm sure he appreciates the time people have invested into playing his games.

@ Le Woltaire
Why don't you start a thread about how new and "inexperienced" developers and what they must go through to post their first game. I'm sure it would be of great help to others and I would be most willing to discuss the topic, but not really in this thread.
(I'm trying my best to not to sound like a moderator hehe)

[really]

I really like the non-heavy icon version Darth made (plus the new cups from Progz and the colours from Ryan). Borrowed or not.

As of the website design and colours I think they fit well, with the forums which I doubt will change, and our Blue Cup mascot.

So when is this re-vamp going to happen? As I see it we are only discussing the little final touches now. 

Happy Birthday Mr SSH!

Is it still going to be mentioned how many votes were made? I mean a player rating of 85% out of 5 people is a lot different from a player rating of 81% out of 700 people's votes. What about making the player rating out of rogers?
Like this very quick mock-up:

I think it might of been a little sly comment in one of Ben's blog posts I may of misunderstood. I live in hope though

Wasn't ! meant to be open source, or am I just dreaming?