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Les: Hehe, yes, all of us going to Japan are well aware of that problem ^_^ Everyone's bringing their own supply (and there are good online stores too).

The um... spring thing is not an option. I consider that to be pretty horrific looking and I just don't trust methods like that. For whoever said to go the pill because they don't trust surgery... it's funny, I see hormonal treatments as much more permanent and damaging! Honestly, it's just not a good idea to use these things for too long. I've used mine for a good few years now, and I think I've sort of had my run with it. I really would like my body to get back to normal internal workings. Although it's been a wonderful time, I just don't want to keep changing my hormones, there are a lot of problems that can arise.

I agree that it's better to go the vasectomy route... it's got a higher percentage of success and is less "fuss". Anyway, I' not deciding anything now, as I said. I just wanted to know what typical married couples do.

To people like SSH: Does that mean that before you've reached that time you decide you've had enough hildren, you're just 100% of the time using no contraception whatsoever? I always picture babies popping out left, right and centre.

As for the argument about my hormones when I'm 30. Honestly, if my biological make-up is gonna make me want kids againt my own free thinking will, then it can get fucked. I already hate my body for forcing me to be in a state of reception for sperm every month of most of my life. If mother nature wants me to want babies when I hit 30, I'll kick her ass. Like Andail (I think) said, there's always adoption, which has always been my absolute favourite form of conception. I won't get into it, but I get really annyed when I see couples spend tens of thousands of dollars for decades of ridiculous fertility treatments, just because they feel some need to have the child come out of themselves. I mean, I can understand how you'd prefer that, but it reaches a point where surely you can look at all the fabulously happy adoptees out there and consider doing something good in the world that also serves your own purpose.

See, I said I wouldn't get into it @_@ Sorry.

But yes, believe me, if my body makes me go insane and want children, I'm more than happy to adopt.

Well, thanks everyone for the advice! It was interesting and helpful ^_^

I'm not thinking about it for NOW. But the time will come when I'll be back in Australia and I'm considering what options there are.

Right. Yeah. Got it now ^_^;;

I must admit, a vasectomy is something I'm thinking about (though of course, it's not my decision to make). I'm not comfortable with the pill because it's yet another hormonal thing... I'd like to get my levels back to normal if I'm stopping the depo.

Privateer: Yours didn't work? Yikes... er, how did you find out, if you don't mind me asking?

I guess this is really for the older posters out there.

Basically, I'm going to Japan soon and I'm starting to get the impression that depo provera isn't an option over there. they only legalised the pill in 2000 (I mean, freaking JESUS!). I've been on depo since I was 17 (I'm now 22) and it's been pretty wonderful for me. I have no side effects (at least that I can tell are as a result of using the depo) apart from not having had a period since I was 17 - which is BLISS! Of course, I always knew this wasn't going to be something I could keep up forever. Pumping hormones into my body just isn't what I want to do for too long (though I feel it's quite safe for the time I've used it so far). So, seeing as it might be a no-go in Japan anyway (and I'll be there for at least a year), I'm considering that now is the time to stop.

It won't be a huge issue while I'm in Japan, because my boyfriend will only be visiting occasionally, so we can take temporary measures on those occasions. I don't fancy the idea of taking the pill either, because it's really just the same as what I have now, only more expensive and much more of a pain in the arse (no pun intended, for those who know how depo is administered).

So... I'm left wondering what might be an option in the future. Of course, I have a long time to think about this, and I know most of the options available. I -really- don't fancy just using condoms for the rest of my life (temporarily sure, but...). The topic of a vasectomy for my partner has come up, but as I was quite happy on the depo, never really discussed in much detail.

I guess I'm interested in what those of you in marriages or really long term relationships do, or plan to do.

P.S. Neither of us want children, and please don't debate the issue with me because I've heard it all before. Not to say you will, but I'm just... letting you know that that's where it is with us ^_^ Permanent solutions aren't a problem in that regard.

P.P.S. I'm posting this here because this is the most mature forum I know. I value your opinions and I know a lot of you are married/in like relationships.

Once again, Maddox has succeeded in wonderfully demonstrating the shittiness of something.

He didn't really spend enough time with Anakin to be caught up in the whole ordeal. Perhaps he was busy appearing in front of someone else more important from his past at that time.

Funny, it took me about 20 seconds to download.

Really? Well, that just makes his name even cooler, and way less stupid than the others ^_^

Not being made? Seriously, it wasn't necessary.

If you want specifics:

1) BO-ring. God, I got sick of hearing about the f*cking trade federation and all of the god damned politics. Not only that, but all those soap operish moments between Padme and Anakin - *snore* There was something exciting and fiery about watching the romance between Hahn and Leia blossom, but those two... blech. (Not to mention that weird age thing)

2) EXTREME!!! Look, I'm using a double-sided saber! Now I'm using two! Now I'm a CG yoda fighting! Now we're SURFING ON A F*CKING VOLCANO, MAN!

3) Acting - shithouse. You can say all you like about the original trilogy, but does anyone argue that it worked at the time? If you're going to make a new trilogy with better FX to match what we have available now, how about some decent actors? In that spoof trailer that went around, I remember thinking "God, what's with that guy playing Anakin? He's just acting like a retard, that isn't funny at ALL". Then, I saw episode 2. I was open-mouthed shocked to see that the 'retard' was actually being quite accurate! He really talked like that!

4) The 'Darths'. There was always something super cool about Darth Vader. Let's face it, he's one of, if not the best bad guy of all time. This may not be a movie thing, it might be a book thing, but why do the rest of them have such f*cking stupid names? Maul?? I remember hearing that and nearly choking on whatever I was eating because it was so stupid. Then it gets worse. Sideous?! God, please, why don't we just call one, Darth Kill-a-Lot, or Darth Bad-Guy. You could argue that 'Darth Vader' is short for 'ivader' but lets face, that never occured to anyone before all these other ridiculous names showed up.

5) The fact that we have to have a perfectly good trilogy tainted with this crap. Everything has to be explained, and it's boring, and stupid. As stat4ed before, there's nothing wrong with starting the trilogy in a somewhat mysterious way, letting it unfold, and letting people come up with their own ideas on what might have happened if they so desire. Now we know the truth, that Darth Vader isn't the super cool badass we thought - he's a stupid, annoying, whinging pussy.

6) Cameos, cameos, cameos. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

7) Jar Jar Binks. It was bad enough he was in the first movie, but ALL THREE?! I know, I know, it's all been said before, but it never becomes 'okay'.

I could go on for ages, but my lunch is going cold.

Awesome! ^_^ I'll download this to replace the old version I could never finish.

Have you contacted homestarrunner.com about this? I mean, they're pretty cool guys, you should let them know and just ask if they have a problem with it.

It looks cool, but I have to say I'm skeptical. Like DC said, the original was a parody and you've sort of taken the parody out of it. I guess this is almost a joke in itself because ... well, I'm sure you know. I don't know, good luck and all but I don't think it's such a great idea. Particularly if you're adding things in which aren't going to be the humour of the Chapman bros.

I am really tired of the Star Wars sucks debate. Suck or not it's Star Wars and I love it.

...and that, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly what I find wrong with the movie industry today. *bow*

It's sad to me that Star Wars sucks has become the new trendy thing to say. It's meant to be fun, not critiqued as some sort of freakin' art flick. It was never good in that way. Eh. I just don't get it. How can a person hate George Lucas for what he "did" to the Star Wars characters? He created them!? He gets to do what he wants with them and our opinion really doesn't matter. That's the whole point of producing the films himself, he doesn't have to listen to anyone's opinions. Do I think he could have done things differently, better, or whatever, sure. It doesn't really matter though. Episode III really tied up the series in a great way for me. I am now anxiously awaiting that 6 movie DVD set.

Nobody's arguing Lucas' right to do what he wants with the story, but god forbid we disagree with it. I personally think he makes some unbelievably shit house decisions, and I'm gonna say so. I hate the new movies, and I'm gonna say so. Why? Because when we start being overly positive because 'we don't have a right to complain', or 'we don't own the characters', that's when movies get shit. I'm sorry, but I pay to go see these things, and when they're crap, I'm gonna complain, because I want them to be the way I want. I want them to be good, my definition of good, and even if I don't get it, I'm not gonna stop complaining.

When people lower their standards, stuff gets shit.

It's the most awesome series ever ^_^ I'm reliving my childhood watching it right now. Kind of... an animated tv series, Japanese/French co-production, based around the Incas. Actually, 5 minutes ago, it got really f**king weird, and now there seem to be aliens.

Re: English - I'm really happy to be apart of the battle for decent spelling/grammar on these forums, because it seems to exist nowhere else. The other forums I frequent regularly are almost impossible to follow...

Yutz: It's ridiculous, I know -_-

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First all, I disagree that figuring whether you're gay or not at an early age has anything to do with maturity. While maturity perhaps does factor in, would you say that someone who doesn't know whether he is gay or not is immature? Furthermore, bisexuality makes it all the more that it's neither one or the other, at a time in your life where you're urged to make a great deal of make choices.

*sigh* Okay, I didn't mean it the way you think. No, I wouldn't say that someone who doesn't know they're gay is immature, but as you said, it factors in.

Environment factors in. Family factors in. Life experience, friends, everything factors in. To say that maturity is what determines your own reaction to homosexuality is, IMHO, a dualist way to see things.

...and I didn't. Do we have to get into a discussion about the exact phychological factors surrounding homosexuality? I was just trying to say that you can't assume it's a phase, because for a lot of people, they know from an early age. It's a fact, and that's that.

Second, it *may* be a phase and it may not. But saying that you can't assume that it's a phase is just ridiculous. You can't assume either way. Best way to react is be supportive, but not OVERLY supportive (ie.: "I now see you only as a lesbian, and to me, you're too far gone to ever be anything else"). It is so confusing, when you're *not* quite sure, to have your friends peg you down as either way, and not let you "change" (again, not saying it's a choice).

But saying you can't assume it's a phase is ridiculous? No, it's not. You CAN'T. Just because you can't assume either way... I mean, that's a contradiction. I said to be supportive, but I didn't say go head over heels into supportive robot mode, did I? You can add your piece in, ie, "Be supportive, but not too supportive" without taking apart the things I said. I said 'be supportive', and I meant it. I don't think that statement implies "peg her down to it and make f*cking sure she doesn't back down, boy".

Last, the "be supportive" thing, while it is the obvious, reasonable reaction to adopt, is not the easiest thing to do. People have problems with homosexuals, God knows why (and yes, I know how that goes, I have born agains in my family *sigh*). That's a general rule. I may be naïve, but I'm hoping people who start this kind thread (who ask this kind of question), aren't hoping to get a "You should call your closest catholic evangelist center and have her committed" kind of answer.
Saying, "if you're incomfortable, it's your problem" doesn't help those people, and it doesn't help their gay friends/family (and it certainly won't help you). It's not *their* problem, because nobody is living in a bubble.

I said it's his problem if he liked her, and now finds out she's a lesbian, ie. Now she's out of reach, which is the 'vibe' his post gave off. Given that it was such a messy and barely comprehendable post in the first place,, of course I could have been wrong, but who the hell can make an accurate assumption. I assumed that's what he meant, and that's what I responded to. My implication was also that it shouldn't be HER problem. Whoever she is, she's probably having a hard enough time already without having to put up with his (possible) insecurities about the whole thing.

That said, it's good to be feisty, and it's good to not let yourself be stomped over by stupidity and idiocraty (because, the Lord knows how quickly you'd end up with a fractured rib, broken skull and shattered legs). Rather taking out the Uzis for somebody who probably just had trouble expressing themselves (really, saying "she is struggling with" it, doesn't automatically mean the poster has a Freudian, "it's a disease" kind of opinion) ... is a bit counterproductive.

Sure, sure, but again, I'm responding to the feelings I get, and I think I made my point anyway. I wasn't personally talking about other posters here, just the OP because again, the 'vibe' I got was that this was a problem and we were supposed to give him tips to 'save her' from the dark side, goth as she may be.

EDIT: Especially when it's phrased "someone going like that"... we can talk about exactly what was meant all we like, but come on, it has a real negative implication, anyone can see that. I'm sorry, but it makes me angry, and I just don't feel like being all 'guidance councillor'. Tough love has it's advantages ^_^ Sometimes it does someone good to get ridiculed. Like a slap in the face when a friend wants to hold a funural for expired milk.

EDIT2: Seeing as I think I've made my point (and in a much more serious way that I'd originally intended), I'm gonna leave this alone now and go back to my Cities of Gold.

Why are people here talking about being lesbian is some kind of sickness? If someone says that she is lesbian, take it serious, because then it is something she is really struggling with. And to be honest, if your not completely sure, youre not going to tell it for atleast when your 20 or something. Most people even keep it secret untill there death.

But again, please, don't treat begin lesbian as a sickness, thank you.

Well said. That sort of thing really gets on my nerves. We can say "it may be a phase". It may be! But assuming it is... well, you can't. Lots of people are very sure of themselves and mature enough to know their own sexuality at that age and even younger. You can't assume either way, just be supportive. Treating it like a "problem" was what got on my nerves the most. If you liked her, and now you find out she may be a lesbian, that's your problem and you can get over it. Just (and I'm not assuming you ARE, but just in case) don't act as if it's something you need to ween out of her for your own benefit.

The point that she must trust you to tell you something like that is a good one. If she trusts you so much, make sure you deserve that trust. Unless she just told you to scare you off @_@ Which sometimes happens.

I'm sorry to be a dick, but I second typing in English. You know "the" isn't spelt with a 'd' and an 'a'. Also, you really need to explain that situation if you want any decent responses. Makes you wonder about what? Life?

My suggestion is to give her one behind the bike shed and put some sense back into her obviously screwed up mind. She obviously just needs a good man. I mean, a lesbian?? How dare she?! When you liked her for ages!

Your topic confuses the heck of out me. I know you're substituting a 'z' for an 's', but do you mean, "My friend is lesbian" or "My friend's lesbian" ie. "The lesbian belonging to my friend"?

Again, sorry for being a dick but I find it hard to help myself. If you want my serious advice, just accept it and please type a little more coherently.

EDIT: Also, "moderators suck"? I'm guessing for 'moderating' something you did, like violating the rules, right? Not terribly smart to insult them publicly though, is it?

EDIT: Zor - I agree that there're a LOT of lesbian-phases going on with the youth out there, but don't discount it completely. I was sure of my sexuality by the time I was 8, and most certainly by the time I was 13. It's not that uncommon.

Wow, awesome. Good to see some more RPGs out there!

I was unhappy about season 3 all over the place. Fantasia just really got my goat. She was the dumbest b*tch I'd seen in a long time, and I thought she sung like a cat having it's head ripped off. I can't remember Diana but I never thought either of the final 2 deserved to be there. I can't exactly remember her name, but the winner without a doubt for me should have been... Latoya? I would have liked to see er (damn, can't remember names) the other older black guy. Both were brilliant singers and had a real command over the stage.

I felt sorry for my boyfriend who had to put up with my swearing and bitching everytime Fantasia was on stage. Boy, I hated her. you're exactly right about her way of speaking too... I mean, it's bad enough to speak like that in real life, but those were SONG lyrics! You only have to memorise them!

Over the whole "Idol" experience, I think Fantasia reigns supreme over my hate, followed by Mikala. Awful, awful girls, both of them.

Pff, well I LOVE it. I hate reality tv usually but these shows are great. I've only seen the recent 2 seasons of American Idol (last years winner gives me nightmares) and we're currently starting the third season of Australian Idol (seen 'em all, but getting less interested...).

Bo!!! I adore him. I've been following him the whole way and man, noone deserves to win like he does. NO-ONE! Carrie's okay, she's certainly talented, but I'd never buy her record, and I'd never care about her. Bo, I'm buying his album no matter what it is. If I were voting, I'd vote for him 10 times over. Just because he'll have a career anyway, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to win. Don't give Carrie the sympathy vote. The winner should be the one that we all know is the best!

Incidentally, I HATED Constantine (no talent arrogant try hard) and I absolutely, with the power of darkness, hated Mikaila (or however it's spelt). She... I can't go on. So much hate. So much happiness that she went so quickly.

But Bo. Oh, Bo. He sends shivers down my spine. He validates any guilt you may have about watching the show. A true talent.

EDIT: Okay, I just read your first line, Darth. BUGGER! Oh well, as you say, Bo will have a career regardless.