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I don't hate Telemarketers. I just don't like getting phone calls interupting my day.  The people I'm mad at, are the people who keep Telemarketing going. Namely, those who actually by the product that the Telemarketer is selling. Because, obviously, there must be enough people buying from Telemarketers to support it.

It's true, who the hell ARE these people? Not buying from charities, but just buying a holiday voucher over the phone, or some product... WHY?

Las: Can't she speak Tokyo dialect for the sake of a job? Most of my friends speak Osaka-ben but they don't use it with me (unless I ask) because they know I'm trying to learn standard Japanese and they don't wanna confuse me ^_^ Personally, I can't wait until I can speak fluent Osaka-ben, it's adorable. But, for the sake of work. I need to be able to switch my Tokyo-ben on and off like a light switch. So... first things first.

HOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! Congrats, Peter, I'm really happy for you! ^_^ Gimme a high five as you speed past Australia

I don't prefer any, because it depends completely on the style of game. The GUI should reflect the type of puzzles and the kinds of things the player will need to do a lot of. Take a look at your game's puzzles and simply think about how it would best suit the player to tackle them.

Thanks for the advice. I've just moved so I'm not too sure of what's in my area, so I will have a see if there's anything new. I'd especially love to work somewhere I could possibly use my Japanese, so that'd be great. I've already applied at all the souvanir shops but most wouldn't take a resume because there was nothing going. I took a look at a couple of tourist guide jobs because I used to have a friend who did it even though she was still learning Japanese, but everything I came across wanted fluent Japanese. The hostel idea sounds good, I'll look into it.

Hehehe, that's fantastic ^_^

Absolutely no way, it can be hard work but at least you're dealing with customers face to face who generally want your service ^_^ IT just depends highly on exactly where you're working. I used to work for a bekery and although I'm sure I hated it at the time (early mornings - urg!!) I do look back on it rather fondly. I got all my bread for free, I really, really liked most of my customers and because I actually did my work instead of just the girly chattering the others girls did, I got a lot of praise from my boss.

If I could get another job like that now, I'd be pretty happy.

I have to agree. I really hate the telemarketing industry as a whole, and telemarketers calling gets on my nerves, but I'm always polite to them because I know the people calling are just doing a job they no doubt hate and took out of necessity. Noone WANTS these jobs, and I've never met anyone who likes calling up and annoying people at home.

I always used to get annoyed at my boyfriend for listening to them for so long. He didn't want to be on the phone with them, but he didn't like to butt in on them so he'd get stuck on the phone for ages. Although I'd admire his politeness, it was a waste of everyone's time. I just tell them I'm not interested as plainly as I can and if they keep on starting up over and over, I just say it one last time, goodbye and hang up. Or I tell them they've caught me going out the door and act like I'm in a hurry. I always liked that one...

Well, my point was that I have very little to put on my resume other than 4 years of Japanese. Japan is where I'll be finishing up my Japanese language skills and also getting long-term job experience teaching (well, long-term for me). The only other skills I have to offer right now are my personality. I can't say I have any decent sales experience or... anything really.

Mr. Hyde: Thanks for that It did help

EDIT: Well, I started to get worried about going through an hour and a half long interview and then being told it was commission based only so I decided to call them up this morning and ask. 'Twas indeed so, so I cancelled the interview. Oh well, thanks very much everyone anyway ^_^ I think I'm gonna try for some more retail places before I delve into telemarketing again.

Oh, I SERIOUSLY hate the no "hello" but "Who is this?" caller. Get fucked! This is MY phone, and I'M in charge of this conversation! I want to know who YOU are, and if you're not friendly enough to say hello at the start of your conversation, then you can go to hell!

ARGH!

But yes, I do get annoyed by that. ^_^

Well, if they tell me the pay is commission-based, I'm knocking back the job straight up. I'm just not in a financial position where that would be adequate. God, I'd do back breaking strawberry picking as long as I got a decent, regular wage.

It sucks, because I hate them too. I mean, REALLY. If anyone in a group is gonna bash telemarketers, it'll be me. But I'm brpke, and I need to pay bills, and I need to get a job quick that I'm qualified for (and until I get to Japan, that's not a lot). I could do retail, but I never get calls back from them because they're only interested in people with 3 years experience or juniors so they don't have to pay anything.

God, my most hated words right now are "juniors" and "experienced". I don't fit into either... damn you teenagers and people who chose to work instead of going to uni or while going to uni!!!

I have a job interview tomorrow for a "Holiday sales consultant"... telemarketing, basically. As much as I loath this industry, I NEED a job until I get to Japan so I'd really like this one. I think I interview pretty well but I'd like to be able to get a leg up and show I'm really good for this sort of thing.

So... has anyone ever had this kind of job before? What sort of things do you typically say over the phone? I have to do a 'mock' phone up during the interview and I'm nervous they won't give me much information.

I swear, if there was ever a time I wanted one of these people to call me up, it's now.

It's been a looooooooooooooong time since I've seen that movie but that sounds like it was done on purpose o_o It was a comedy.

My favourite one of all time is actually in an episode of Fawlty Towers. Someone busts through the swinging doors to the kitchen and you can clear as day see the stage hand on the other side of the door (there to close the door properly, I assume). I never get tired of seeing it (well, I probably would eventually, but I haven't yet).

There was also a movie I was watching on tv in the past couple of weeks... I can't even remember the title but someone slammed a phone handset back down to the phone on a table, and you see this hand come from the back of the table and quickly try to place the phone properly. I couldn't believe my eyes. I mean, this was a proper, full-budgeted movie.

From the webpage:
14    American Pie    In the bedroom scene the girl is holding a clear cup full of beer. The camera goes off her and when it comes back she is holding a blue cup. The camera goes back off her then on her and the cup is clear again.

CLEARLY a tribute!

Erm, just a question. If I do that, how can I assign whichever key was pressed to keyx?

Oh, nevermind. keycode, right? >_< Duh. It's just that I hardly ever use it...

I'm lucky enough to have never been in either your situation or hers, but I can say that I do agree with the frustration. It's incredibly that these people have grown up knowing all the same cliches surrounding these situations as we have, and yet they continue to display them without seeming to realise. It really, REALLY makes me angry when I hear about these situations...

I'm in a slightly similar situation with a dear friend who's self abusing (taking pills, cutting herself, etc...). It really shocked me and came out of nowhere, and I didn't want to do the wrong thing so I looked it up on the net and got some advice from people doing the same thing, who said, "Just be a good friend to her and let her know you're there to listen to her problems, etc...". I did that, and I keep doing it over and over, and still absolutely zilch has changed. She has much closer friends than I doing the same, and they're even more frustrated than I am. I've tried logically going through all her problems and telling her that she's okay, and countless other things and it hasn't changed a thing. She's still alive, which is good, but this has been going on for about a year now and seems to only get worse no matter what people do.

I'd like to say I have some solution, but I don't. I'm still scared every single day I'll hear that she's killed herself. My biggest problem with this girl is that I can't physically be with her because she's in another country.

I would say that this is where you have a slight advantage, but even so, you have to convince HER which is the tough part.

As much as these situations anger and frustrate me, when I imagine my current partner hitting me... I honestly don't know what I'd do. I'd like to say I'd kick his ass out on the doorstep, steal his credit cards and get myself a hero, not a zero. The reality of it is that I'd be confused and I know without a doubt that I'd want to help him. I'd still love him, I know that, and I'd want to help him overcome his problem. I think there are lots of situations... if you're with an abusive partner you don't really love, a lot of women simply stay with them out of fear, not knowing what to do and lack of self confidence and belief. I think there are probably situations where the abused really do still love their abusive partner, and in those cases they probably stay (also because of the above reasons) because they don't want to leave their partner's side, and abandon them. They probably feel they can change them and might even be afraid of their partner harming themselves if they leave.

Do you think your sister still loves her partner? Is he essentially a good man or do you think he really is just a bastard?

I can only offer these thoughts, sorry. Solutions are a hard thing to think of. I remember thinking these situations were so simple when I was a teen but now, when you think of real people in real situations, you realise you have to tread a little more carefully.

Perhaps if you think he's essentially a good guy with an anger problem, you can get a lot of people together for an intervention...?

That's an excellent idea, thanks once again Gilbot! ^_^

My game has some default keys that do certain actions but I'd like to create a screen where the user can define their own. I've been having a little think about it, and the only way I can think of doing it is to have a lot of 'if (keycode==blahblah) keyx=blahblah;" lines... One for each key that could be pushed. Is there another way the engine can simply recognise that a key has been pressed, and to assign whatever that key is to keyx?

The advantage of the first choice is that they can only specify keys I code for, because I have no idea what the implications of someone pressing some really odd key would be otherwise.

www.gamingw.net is the closest I've come, and it is pretty good there, I must admit. Still, all those enormous avatars and page long sigs ... @_@

Berserker: You could always just throw the tile-based idea out the window and still make an RPG ^_^ I'd love to see what you could do in that genre!

I just have to get my frustrations out somewhere and I can't think of a place any better than this.

Why is the RPG community on the internet so utterly lame?!

Admittedly, RPGs are a far bigger genre than adventure games, and far more varied too. An adventure game forum like this can exist and satisfy everyone's needs, whereas having an 'RPG' forum really has to be huge to satisfy everyone's interests. I realise that most people think of RPGs as the old tabletop games and games that follow that style. I respect that, it's where they began and thats fine. Even so, console RPGs have been huge for a very long time and I expected I might just be able to find a community similar to to this one based around those. Nope. Most forums are completely dedicated to online role-playing and campaigns, or they're just completely... well, lame is the best word. A couple of threads with a couple of posts in each about Final Fantasy. Most of the people in these forums don't even seem to be regular RPG players, they just picked up a copy of FFX because of the half-naked women on the cover and want to chat about which one is hotter.

They aren't all like that exactly, but I'll be damned if after weeks of searching I can find one that even comes close to being just a general, decent forum for console RPG fans. It blows my mind that something with such a huge fanbase could go uncatered for. Are people really just not interested in talking about them at all? I feel like I could talk about my favourite SNES RPGs for all eternity. I had no idea I was a dying breed.

As far as RPG making comminuties go, all they seem to be interested in is creating 'systems'. "I've created an item system!"... but no game. Noone seems to want to make decent games, just have a go at programming certain components of engines. The games that do get made seem to be 99% made out of RPGMaker, and well, are short and crap and are comprised of ripped FF sprites.

Where's the love?!?

If anyone can point me in the direction of a decent place, I'd be MOST appreciative. Otherwise, I feel I'm going to have to wander this lonely road forever... just talking to myself about how much I love Terranigma. This whole thing makes me glad I have AGS here for at least adventure games.